Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: johnny bravo on September 22, 2022, 02:09:39 pm
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Anyone got a great deal buying new instead of Second Hand . best deal on a 2.0 HDI
Looked online now im inundated with Vans to lease or For Sale on my Facebook page or anything i go on
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Autotrader is a good place to look.
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There are no great deals out there right now.
Van market is crazy.
Best deals you can get are some 0% finance offers, but still, the initial prices are eye watering.
The second hand market is starting to become a little more sensible, but not alot.
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If you need a van just get one things ain’t gonna change much for the better anytime soon.
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There are no great deals out there right now.
Van market is crazy.
Best deals you can get are some 0% finance offers, but still, the initial prices are eye watering.
The second hand market is starting to become a little more sensible, but not alot.
0% finance was a motor trade hook that caught many who didn't look at the full picture. Citroen had many offers in my day, but it was the same size cake cut different ways. Back then, they offered a cash-back incentive. Let's say it was £2000. If you took that deal, then no other deals applied. If you wanted to trade your vehicle, then they might offer you £1000 cash back and give you a fantastic trade-in by adding the remaining £1000 to it.
0% finance worked similarly. There is no such thing as 0% finance, someone has to pay interest on borrowed money. You pay that interest from the cash-back incentive.
It's just dressed up in such away you believe you are getting something you aren't. When you hear that "this is a deal for today and today only" then know there is more tucked away under the table. Salesmen work on commission, so the more profit they make for the company, the more they earn. They want your signature today. If they get that with a small deposit, they dissuade you from looking elsewhere. This is why doing your due diligence is so important before you speak to a dealer.
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When they give you that 0% deal the ticket price is probably in a lot of cases 10% more than you’ll get it for elsewhere when you dig,the thing is the vast majority of the general public don’t dig for the reason being they can’t be or need to be bothered or just don’t want the psychological fight with the skinny fit cheap suited sales boy.
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There are no great deals out there right now.
Van market is crazy.
Best deals you can get are some 0% finance offers, but still, the initial prices are eye watering.
The second hand market is starting to become a little more sensible, but not alot.
0% finance was a motor trade hook that caught many who didn't look at the full picture. Citroen had many offers in my day, but it was the same size cake cut different ways. Back then, they offered a cash-back incentive. Let's say it was £2000. If you took that deal, then no other deals applied. If you wanted to trade your vehicle, then they might offer you £1000 cash back and give you a fantastic trade-in by adding the remaining £1000 to it.
0% finance worked similarly. There is no such thing as 0% finance, someone has to pay interest on borrowed money. You pay that interest from the cash-back incentive.
It's just dressed up in such away you believe you are getting something you aren't. When you hear that "this is a deal for today and today only" then know there is more tucked away under the table. Salesmen work on commission, so the more profit they make for the company, the more they earn. They want your signature today. If they get that with a small deposit, they dissuade you from looking elsewhere. This is why doing your due diligence is so important before you speak to a dealer.
Wise words spruce.
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There are no great deals out there right now.
Van market is crazy.
Best deals you can get are some 0% finance offers, but still, the initial prices are eye watering.
The second hand market is starting to become a little more sensible, but not alot.
0% finance was a motor trade hook that caught many who didn't look at the full picture. Citroen had many offers in my day, but it was the same size cake cut different ways. Back then, they offered a cash-back incentive. Let's say it was £2000. If you took that deal, then no other deals applied. If you wanted to trade your vehicle, then they might offer you £1000 cash back and give you a fantastic trade-in by adding the remaining £1000 to it.
0% finance worked similarly. There is no such thing as 0% finance, someone has to pay interest on borrowed money. You pay that interest from the cash-back incentive.
It's just dressed up in such away you believe you are getting something you aren't. When you hear that "this is a deal for today and today only" then know there is more tucked away under the table. Salesmen work on commission, so the more profit they make for the company, the more they earn. They want your signature today. If they get that with a small deposit, they dissuade you from looking elsewhere. This is why doing your due diligence is so important before you speak to a dealer.
I always had this opinion on 0% interest too, normally you would pay closer to the list price, whereas an interest rate of around 5% would then mean more discount on the list price……….however I did bag 8k off the list price with 0% interest ( think minimum deposit was 30% ? ) on a new Custom Sport in 2019. Won’t get those sort of deals now tho, even with the over inflated list prices of today.
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You’d be better off buying a custom sport from Streamline with a 650 flat tank 2 man hot system wouldn’t you,how much are those custom sports these days that vans about 50k with the Vat I think.
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You’d be better off buying a custom sport from Streamline with a 650 flat tank 2 man hot system wouldn’t you,how much are those custom sports these days that vans about 50k with the Vat I think.
30k inc VAT in 2019, around 42k inc VAT now.
I expect we’ll see you in one soon enough as the new one which is about to be launched is a joint venture between VW & Ford😁
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What with my staff expenses 🤣
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You’d be better off buying a custom sport from Streamline with a 650 flat tank 2 man hot system wouldn’t you,how much are those custom sports these days that vans about 50k with the Vat I think.
30k inc VAT in 2019, around 42k inc VAT now.
I expect we’ll see you in one soon enough as the new one which is about to be launched is a joint venture between VW & Ford😁
The Ford/PSA relationship seems to have hit the skids with PSA buying GM in Europe. :D
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Any idea on when that Vans coming out KS.
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Any idea on when that Vans coming out KS.
About a years time.
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I’ll keep an eye that’s when I was intending on looking tbh 👍.
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New custom does look amazing.
Price tag will be shocking though.
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Prices are crazy but if you want a new one then what can you do.
When I was looking at vans I was Initially wanting to spend about 15k. A few years ago that would get you a 2 year old van with very low mileage. Now they are 5 year old with 70k.
So in the end I took the plunge on a new one. 29k Inc vat
One positive is I will pay next to no tax next year with the annual investment allowance.
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Those greedy dealers will come unstuck at some point it’s got to happen eventually,if you can I would sit on you’re hands for a while like you say though you want a new van and no Tax bill in 2024 buy one lol.
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How old is your van Nigel?
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14 years.
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Prices are crazy but if you want a new one then what can you do.
When I was looking at vans I was Initially wanting to spend about 15k. A few years ago that would get you a 2 year old van with very low mileage. Now they are 5 year old with 70k.
So in the end I took the plunge on a new one. 29k Inc vat
One positive is I will pay next to no tax next year with the annual investment allowance.
What did you manage to get for that price?
It’s pretty decent in this climate to be fair.
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Yeah I thought that 36k for a transit sport.
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Prices are crazy but if you want a new one then what can you do.
When I was looking at vans I was Initially wanting to spend about 15k. A few years ago that would get you a 2 year old van with very low mileage. Now they are 5 year old with 70k.
So in the end I took the plunge on a new one. 29k Inc vat
One positive is I will pay next to no tax next year with the annual investment allowance.
What did you manage to get for that price?
It’s pretty decent in this climate to be fair.
Citroen relay l2
I've just noticed they are back up at 32k inc vat now which seems odd as I thought prices were dropping . Only got mine begining of August.
Mine was 23995 plus vat so just under 29k .
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14 years.
What sort of mileage, any issues with dpf?
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2 dual mass clutches 1 x New Turbo
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You know your van but if it still runs well I would be tempted to just keep it. I think newer vans are more prone to issues due to increased levels of technology.
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Prices are crazy but if you want a new one then what can you do.
When I was looking at vans I was Initially wanting to spend about 15k. A few years ago that would get you a 2 year old van with very low mileage. Now they are 5 year old with 70k.
So in the end I took the plunge on a new one. 29k Inc vat
One positive is I will pay next to no tax next year with the annual investment allowance.
What did you manage to get for that price?
It’s pretty decent in this climate to be fair.
Citroen relay l2
I've just noticed they are back up at 32k inc vat now which seems odd as I thought prices were dropping . Only got mine begining of August.
Mine was 23995 plus vat so just under 29k .
You’ve done well at that price. Which is mad to say at still 30k, but it’s good by current standards.