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Title: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on July 29, 2022, 06:32:06 pm
So ive gone and bought a brand spanking new van  ;D

In the past ive used protektokote and raptor both applied myself and whilst it wasnt bad it had chipped off eventually.

So what are the options for lining a new van ?

The best one ive heard of seems to be Line X does anyone have experience of this ?

But is a van liner really required ? The van floor being painted should be water tight should it not ?  Would it be enough to just fit rubber matting ?

thanks
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: NWH on July 29, 2022, 07:05:34 pm
Imo it needs coating properly either Speedliner or 2 coats of Protectacote.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: EandM on July 29, 2022, 07:16:26 pm
Line-X is very good, as is Raptor but generally they're all weather, 2k coatings for use outside.
Might be a bit ott for the inside of a van but probably very good.
Just wear a decent air fed mask.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on July 29, 2022, 07:52:05 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 29, 2022, 08:08:48 pm
Speedliner, brilliant.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: NWH on July 29, 2022, 08:40:52 pm
I don’t think you can go overkill when it comes to waterproofing the van floor the more the better,Speedliner is way better than Protectacote although it is still good not as durable.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Gringo on July 29, 2022, 08:56:03 pm
What can did you go for Stootsy?
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Splash & dash on July 29, 2022, 09:06:25 pm
So ive gone and bought a brand spanking new van  ;D

In the past ive used protektokote and raptor both applied myself and whilst it wasnt bad it had chipped off eventually.

So what are the options for lining a new van ?

The best one ive heard of seems to be Line X does anyone have experience of this ?

But is a van liner really required ? The van floor being painted should be water tight should it not ?  Would it be enough to just fit rubber matting ?

thanks


I have one van with line x  and one with speed liner line x is better and  cheaper  in my opinion , avoid. Protector coat it’s rubbish  did my other van with that when I first had it wore through within a few months
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Smudger on July 29, 2022, 11:38:12 pm
I had my boxer x-lined - it had pressure washers in it for 4 years and now back to wfp - its had Genny's pulled in/out and other heavy items - it still looks like new.

Protectocote - rubbish not worth the effort.

The last 2 new vans I haven't bothered with and extra protection at all

Darran
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Pete Thompson on July 30, 2022, 12:02:05 am
Line-X.

That is all.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on July 30, 2022, 08:11:52 am
What can did you go for Stootsy?

Citroen relay L2 H2

It's absolutely huge  ;D

Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Splash & dash on July 30, 2022, 12:15:47 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe


Line x cost  £770 including vat
Speedliner  £1400 plus vat
Line x is far more cost effective and a better product as it’s instantly hard speed liner takes a couple of weeks to go hard and gives off horrendous fumes for  several weeks . Both give very good protection from scuffs and chemical spillage .
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 30, 2022, 01:16:28 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe


Line x cost  £770 including vat
Speedliner  £1400 plus vat
Line x is far more cost effective and a better product as it’s instantly hard speed liner takes a couple of weeks to go hard and gives off horrendous fumes for  several weeks . Both give very good protection from scuffs and chemical spillage .
Speedliner £1400 ?

I can't remember paying anywhere near that from GrippaTank, it was around £700
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 30, 2022, 01:18:57 pm
Just checked £750 Inc  vat.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Splash & dash on July 30, 2022, 02:32:21 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe


Line x cost  £770 including vat
Speedliner  £1400 plus vat
Line x is far more cost effective and a better product as it’s instantly hard speed liner takes a couple of weeks to go hard and gives off horrendous fumes for  several weeks . Both give very good protection from scuffs and chemical spillage .
Speedliner £1400 ?

I can't remember paying anywhere near that from GrippaTank, it was around £700


Yes that’s what the local garage that are agents wanted for  it ,and that was plus vat , had one van done with it but won’t use it again  line x is a much better product and cheaper
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 30, 2022, 02:54:02 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe


Line x cost  £770 including vat
Speedliner  £1400 plus vat
Line x is far more cost effective and a better product as it’s instantly hard speed liner takes a couple of weeks to go hard and gives off horrendous fumes for  several weeks . Both give very good protection from scuffs and chemical spillage .
Speedliner £1400 ?

I can't remember paying anywhere near that from GrippaTank, it was around £700


Yes that’s what the local garage that are agents wanted for  it ,and that was plus vat , had one van done with it but won’t use it again  line x is a much better product and cheaper
What's better about it mate?
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on July 30, 2022, 02:58:00 pm
I'll get some line x quotes.

I'm also going to ring a local company that does plastics, apparently they can build what is essentially a large plastic tray to fit the entire van floor.



Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Splash & dash on July 30, 2022, 03:30:06 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe


Line x cost  £770 including vat
Speedliner  £1400 plus vat
Line x is far more cost effective and a better product as it’s instantly hard speed liner takes a couple of weeks to go hard and gives off horrendous fumes for  several weeks . Both give very good protection from scuffs and chemical spillage .
Speedliner £1400 ?

I can't remember paying anywhere near that from GrippaTank, it was around £700


Yes that’s what the local garage that are agents wanted for  it ,and that was plus vat , had one van done with it but won’t use it again  line x is a much better product and cheaper
What's better about it mate?


Speedliner  is always a bit rubbery and soft if that makes sense , line x is a harder finish but still gives grip , it’s instantly hard Speedliner  takes several weeks to cure , I just prefer line x  also  the cost saving make it a no brainier .
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 30, 2022, 03:42:37 pm
Cheers I've done protektokote before and I've got a compressor/sprayer to use raptor. I painted an entire car in raptor not long ago....

But was after something done for me this time I think as I've had issues with chipping on bits before.

I'll look at speedliner thanks,think line x is going to be about 1500 quid bit overkill maybe


Line x cost  £770 including vat
Speedliner  £1400 plus vat
Line x is far more cost effective and a better product as it’s instantly hard speed liner takes a couple of weeks to go hard and gives off horrendous fumes for  several weeks . Both give very good protection from scuffs and chemical spillage .
Speedliner £1400 ?

I can't remember paying anywhere near that from GrippaTank, it was around £700


Yes that’s what the local garage that are agents wanted for  it ,and that was plus vat , had one van done with it but won’t use it again  line x is a much better product and cheaper
What's better about it mate?


Speedliner  is always a bit rubbery and soft if that makes sense , line x is a harder finish but still gives grip , it’s instantly hard Speedliner  takes several weeks to cure , I just prefer line x  also  the cost saving make it a no brainier .
yeah mine took a while to cure bit it's rock hard now,
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on July 30, 2022, 06:19:14 pm
What do you chaps think of this

https://www.plylineuk.co.uk/product/polyline-lining-kit-for-citroen-vans/

like ply lining but plastic sheet by the looks of it

intersting
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Splash & dash on July 30, 2022, 06:29:20 pm
What do you chaps think of this

https://www.plylineuk.co.uk/product/polyline-lining-kit-for-citroen-vans/

like ply lining but plastic sheet by the looks of it

intersting


Grippatank fitted plastic internal lining in one of my vans about 8 years ago it’s quite good as it’s wipe clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1659202152_183F2EA4-0FEC-43C4-A8CC-D434F779C4B3.jpeg)
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on July 30, 2022, 07:50:21 pm
What do you chaps think of this

https://www.plylineuk.co.uk/product/polyline-lining-kit-for-citroen-vans/

like ply lining but plastic sheet by the looks of it

intersting


Grippatank fitted plastic internal lining in one of my vans about 8 years ago it’s quite good as it’s wipe clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1659202152_183F2EA4-0FEC-43C4-A8CC-D434F779C4B3.jpeg)

cheers found someone local who can do it i think, so thst the sides sorted.

You can get a sheet for the floor but its plywoood thats been coated think it would just rot
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: GAZZA B on August 02, 2022, 01:03:32 pm
Sorry to be a big head , but if you fit your equipment properly in the van and take your time, don't fit connectors, keep you van tidy i have never had any water spill into the van or leek and if you do have a little water spill just mop up you don't need to overkill
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Smudger on August 02, 2022, 03:02:02 pm
Sorry to be a big head , but if you fit your equipment properly in the van and take your time, don't fit connectors, keep you van tidy i have never had any water spill into the van or leek and if you do have a little water spill just mop up you don't need to overkill

Thats just the engineer in you talking  ;D

Most here think a bit of tape wrapped around the hose is a watertight seal  ;D ;D ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: NWH on August 02, 2022, 05:39:17 pm
I agree it can be overkill use John Guest fittings I have some on my system that have been on it for over 10 years and not 1 drop of water has ever leaked,brilliant fittings.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: deeege on August 03, 2022, 07:03:11 am
Rubber matting has always done the job for me, but I lease so I don’t really care about the long term (3+ year) water damage.

Considering buying new  next time so following this with interest.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: dazmond on August 03, 2022, 09:01:02 am
I guess the van doesn't come with plastic load liner then Adam?

I just had my system fitted on top of it.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: NWH on August 03, 2022, 09:15:13 am
Protectacote is not the same quality as Speedliner but it does the job you have to put it down properly and prepare the back correctly with the thinners etc,you need at least 2 coats of it and after a few years small bits can be scuffed off but all you need to do is touch it up.
Did mine on a dry Saturday looks great when done,if you aim to keep the van it’s a must I wouldn’t rely on rubber matting etc we all get a major leak from year to year.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: dazmond on August 03, 2022, 03:47:18 pm
Protectacote is not the same quality as Speedliner but it does the job you have to put it down properly and prepare the back correctly with the thinners etc,you need at least 2 coats of it and after a few years small bits can be scuffed off but all you need to do is touch it up.
Did mine on a dry Saturday looks great when done,if you aim to keep the van it’s a must I wouldn’t rely on rubber matting etc we all get a major leak from year to year.

its a myth that water will rot your van floor.....ive had 14 year old vans and flooded them regularly and not a spot of rust on the floor....

protectacote or speedliner is just not needed....plastic load liner or a rubber mat for your specific van will do for the life of the van(10+ years)
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Stoots on August 03, 2022, 06:40:44 pm
Protectacote is not the same quality as Speedliner but it does the job you have to put it down properly and prepare the back correctly with the thinners etc,you need at least 2 coats of it and after a few years small bits can be scuffed off but all you need to do is touch it up.
Did mine on a dry Saturday looks great when done,if you aim to keep the van it’s a must I wouldn’t rely on rubber matting etc we all get a major leak from year to year.

its a myth that water will rot your van floor.....ive had 14 year old vans and flooded them regularly and not a spot of rust on the floor....

protectacote or speedliner is just not needed....plastic load liner or a rubber mat for your specific van will do for the life of the van(10+ years)


I know, im in 2 minds whether to get the floor done.

Ive got the van booked in for the sides doing next week in plastic but still undecided on the floor.

Being a new van the paintwork is pefect in the back so seems daft to rub it all off and spray something on, afterall paint thats not  damaged should be just as waterproof in theory and as said above if i were more carefull i really shouldnt be flooding it like i do now  ;D

I have a quote of £650 to spray it in Line-x which i think is a good price but it means travelling and a couple of days off i dont know if i can be bothered.

Think i might just put a mat in for now and inspect it in a year, if the floor is suffering then could always get it sprayed.

I also got a quote for this stuff but its almost £500 fitted and is just really composite sheet its not going to stop water getting under it.

https://blog.legendfleet.com/products/stabiligrip

Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Smudger on August 03, 2022, 07:04:25 pm
I think thats where the main issue would be - water getting trapped under the flooring/matting
my relay is now just over 4 years old and has nothing on the floor and there is no signs of rust - mind you if I had one of those ford rust buckets I'd be worried  ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: NWH on August 03, 2022, 07:46:36 pm
Yeah if water gets under that matting and it will do at some point it’ll rust over time,if you have an almost new van I wouldn’t hesitate to get it done well worth it and you’ll be pleased you did in the long run.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: DJW on August 04, 2022, 08:27:56 am
Water shouldn’t get trapped. The floors are shaped with channels. It should just drain to the rear.
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: Splash & dash on August 04, 2022, 05:39:52 pm
Water shouldn’t get trapped. The floors are shaped with channels. It should just drain to the rear.


That will depend if the van is facing up or down hill or on level ground 😂😂
Title: Re: Van Lining
Post by: NWH on August 04, 2022, 06:40:53 pm
They get wet and it sweats and doesn’t go anywhere if it’s covered over for months.