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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: zesty on July 05, 2022, 01:11:37 pm

Title: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 05, 2022, 01:11:37 pm
I want to know what it costs you per month or year if easier.

Include water rate

All your filters/maintenance

New RO etc

Resin

The whole lot, let me know what it costs you. Preferably from those who are in hard water areas.

I’m deciding whether to carry on buying from a mate who a 5 min drive away, or produce my own.

I only pay him £15 for 700l and I’ve not got any of the faff of maintenance or new filters etc.

I’m unconvinced it’ll be better to purify myself, but I may do if it works out considerably cheaper.


Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Stoots on July 05, 2022, 01:30:32 pm
£15 for 700l is steep.

I use about 2 bags of resin a year and a set of filters a year so 300 quid ish.

I'm not on a water meter and pay 400 odd quid a year for that.

So £750 a year ish.

I maybe use 2000l of pure a week so 4000l from the tap.

All very rough estimates.


I did work it out once when I was on a water meter at my last house and total cost came to about £130 a month then.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 05, 2022, 01:45:15 pm
That 700l lasts me 2-3 days easy  ;D

Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Stoots on July 05, 2022, 03:04:50 pm
That 700l lasts me 2-3 days easy  ;D

Jeez ive used about 550l today  :D
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: JandS on July 05, 2022, 03:13:26 pm
What's your TDS  Adam mine's only about 85/90 so just use double di vessels......bag of resin earns me about £6k.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Smudger on July 05, 2022, 03:30:34 pm
I want to know what it costs you per month or year if easier.

Include water rate

All your filters/maintenance

New RO etc

Resin

The whole lot, let me know what it costs you. Preferably from those who are in hard water areas.

I’m deciding whether to carry on buying from a mate who a 5 min drive away, or produce my own.

I only pay him £15 for 700l and I’ve not got any of the faff of maintenance or new filters etc.

I’m unconvinced it’ll be better to purify myself, but I may do if it works out considerably cheaper.

Stop being a nosey bar steward    ;D ;D ;D

Approx £60 a year on filters
Membrane 1 x 18 months (225.00)  so £150 a year
water comes in at around £1350 a year - thats producing 3,000 Ltrs a day Monday to Friday
(I don't pay for waste back to sewer)
Electric - Unsure its £80 a month to run the pump - immersion  hot water tank and lights  in the unit - so say £30for the pump
thats £360 a year

Total spend £1920 for 750,000 ltrs of pure

I think  ;D

Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Stoots on July 05, 2022, 04:32:44 pm
What's your TDS  Adam mine's only about 85/90 so just use double di vessels......bag of resin earns me about £6k.

It fluctuates a lot in wakefield. I've seen it anywhere from 80 to 300.

More often than not it seems to be in the 200s.

Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: JandS on July 05, 2022, 06:33:57 pm
Yes I thought it was the same in Wakey as round here when I decided to fill up at wife's friends house whose windows I clean.
Filled up and then tested it and it was reading 27 in tank, it had burnt through my resin.....coming out of tap was 280......that was in Ossett less than 4 miles away.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 05, 2022, 06:50:28 pm
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Lee GLS on July 05, 2022, 07:00:33 pm
I use 550-600 cubic Meters a year, I use roughly 3-400 a day 3/4 days a week. I don’t bother with resin anymore and my ro lasts roughly 3/4 years so £50 year on filters, £550 year on water, I never touch the ro until this filters need changing.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Splash & dash on July 05, 2022, 08:01:42 pm
£15 for 700l is steep.

I use about 2 bags of resin a year and a set of filters a year so 300 quid ish.

I'm not on a water meter and pay 400 odd quid a year for that.

So £750 a year ish.

I maybe use 2000l of pure a week so 4000l from the tap.

All very rough estimates.


I did work it out once when I was on a water meter at my last house and total cost came to about £130 a month then.



£15 for 700 ltr of pure is very cheap look at spotless waters charges they are about £40 for 1000 ltr
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Stoots on July 05, 2022, 08:24:32 pm
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that  ;D

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .




Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 06, 2022, 07:48:57 am
£15 for 700l is steep.

I use about 2 bags of resin a year and a set of filters a year so 300 quid ish.

I'm not on a water meter and pay 400 odd quid a year for that.

So £750 a year ish.

I maybe use 2000l of pure a week so 4000l from the tap.

All very rough estimates.


I did work it out once when I was on a water meter at my last house and total cost came to about £130 a month then.



£15 for 700 ltr of pure is very cheap look at spotless waters charges they are about £40 for 1000 ltr

It’s really cheap, I might stay as I am.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 12, 2022, 06:16:34 am
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that  ;D

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

Depends where in the country you are as well. In some parts of the UK the water is 60ppm, even I wouldn't recommend buying (unless you have access isuues, live in a flat or something) but down here in the South the water is chalky
Down here in Kent our tap water is between 300 and 400 ppm pre treatment, gives your membranes a proper workout, after going through a high quality RO using a good pump our water is still around 8-10ppm so we use a fair bit of resin
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 12, 2022, 06:27:10 am
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that  ;D

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

The use of the phrase 'better off' matters as well. If you save £10 a month by making your own but you spend an hour making it then you are not better off making your own, I don't work for £10 an hour and I'm sure you don't.
It also depends where your fill up is and what if you have people who work for you?
As I said originally it is cheaper to make your own in cash terms, but you're not better off spending time messing about making water and worrying about it if it's going to reduce the amount of time spent earning.
You could service your own van and save money, but is it a good use of your time?
Actually, this isn't a good use of mine  ;D
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Pete Thompson on July 12, 2022, 01:45:29 pm
Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 12, 2022, 01:54:34 pm
Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.

Interesting.

I’ve got no worries with relying on my mate, he’s defo not going to suddenly stop me buying it. He’s well happy with it, it’s extra cash for him and we’re good mates anyway.

I don’t use much water, I’ve got a 750litre tank, so I fill up when I have around 50 litres left, so I get around 700l for £15, that can last me 3,4 even 5 days depending on my work.

On that basis, it seems like It’s easier to buy it, I am in one of the hardest water areas in the country, so having the ease of no filter changes and faff seems beneficial, even if it is a bit more expensive…

Thanks for the info, very helpful 👍🏼

Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Splash & dash on July 12, 2022, 07:38:06 pm
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that  ;D

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

The use of the phrase 'better off' matters as well. If you save £10 a month by making your own but you spend an hour making it then you are not better off making your own, I don't work for £10 an hour and I'm sure you don't.
It also depends where your fill up is and what if you have people who work for you?
As I said originally it is cheaper to make your own in cash terms, but you're not better off spending time messing about making water and worrying about it if it's going to reduce the amount of time spent earning.
You could service your own van and save money, but is it a good use of your time?
Actually, this isn't a good use of mine  ;D


But it doesn’t take any time at all to make water , just connect one hose to the van plug in the mains power turn on tap and booster pump and it does  it all it’s self, and switches off when the tanks are full , I fill 3 vans a day and it takes 5 muinits .
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Splash & dash on July 12, 2022, 07:40:09 pm
Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.


I have a separate  meter and only pay  for the water no sewage charge on the water for the van works out a lot cheaper
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 12, 2022, 07:42:13 pm

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.

The guy describes all the various processes to make water and how long they take and then says the above.
That's the hour I'm talking about  ::)roll

Trust me if you live in a hard water area it's not as easy to get the water down to the right ppm, but as I said  of course it is cheaper to make your own, depends on how you like to spend your time. If you buy you can easily price the small extra cost into your work


Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 12, 2022, 07:44:42 pm
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that  ;D

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

The use of the phrase 'better off' matters as well. If you save £10 a month by making your own but you spend an hour making it then you are not better off making your own, I don't work for £10 an hour and I'm sure you don't.
It also depends where your fill up is and what if you have people who work for you?
As I said originally it is cheaper to make your own in cash terms, but you're not better off spending time messing about making water and worrying about it if it's going to reduce the amount of time spent earning.
You could service your own van and save money, but is it a good use of your time?
Actually, this isn't a good use of mine  ;D


But it doesn’t take any time at all to make water , just connect one hose to the van plug in the mains power turn on tap and booster pump and it does  it all it’s self, and switches off when the tanks are full , I fill 3 vans a day and it takes 5 muinits .

And if you run out of water half way through the day? What happens then? 
Genuine question, not being funny.
Are you saying you can process the water to fill your van in 5 minutes or can connect up to start the process in five minutes?
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 12, 2022, 08:10:55 pm
Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.


I have a separate  meter and only pay  for the water no sewage charge on the water for the van works out a lot cheaper


So is your waste going to a soak away?
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Splash & dash on July 12, 2022, 08:55:20 pm
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true

Yes of course you would say that  ;D

You know full well you are not better off buying. You have extra fuel cost to go fill up for a start and at current fuel prices you could well spend £5/£10 or more driving just to get your water.

Let's take me as an example, nearest spotless water is 15 miles away that's best part of a tenner of fuel plus an hour round trip then god knows what they charge for 500l of pure.

Compare to producing 500l of my own for probably less than a fiver .

The use of the phrase 'better off' matters as well. If you save £10 a month by making your own but you spend an hour making it then you are not better off making your own, I don't work for £10 an hour and I'm sure you don't.
It also depends where your fill up is and what if you have people who work for you?
As I said originally it is cheaper to make your own in cash terms, but you're not better off spending time messing about making water and worrying about it if it's going to reduce the amount of time spent earning.
You could service your own van and save money, but is it a good use of your time?
Actually, this isn't a good use of mine  ;D


But it doesn’t take any time at all to make water , just connect one hose to the van plug in the mains power turn on tap and booster pump and it does  it all it’s self, and switches off when the tanks are full , I fill 3 vans a day and it takes 5 muinits .

And if you run out of water half way through the day? What happens then? 
Genuine question, not being funny.
Are you saying you can process the water to fill your van in 5 minutes or can connect up to start the process in five minutes?


We don’t run out vans have 1,000 , 650 and 600 ltr tanks , we also have filtration ( full ro set up) in every van so when doing large commercial we top up as we are going .
We connect up and start producing water in less than 5 muinits , with booster pumps we can produce 1,000 ltr of pure in 2 hours
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Splash & dash on July 12, 2022, 08:56:48 pm
Ok this is a good estimate for a weekly cost, I use about 550 litres per day.

My actual water itself costs me £3.10 per cubic metre, and I use about 2,750 litres per week and you will put approx 50% to waste, so the water itself will be around:
(£3.10 x 2) x 2.750 = £17.05

That £3.10 includes the sewerage charge (which is calculated based on usage so you can't avoid it), but does not include standing charges as you have to pay them anyway.

Then I change my prefilters once every 2 months, they cost approx £4.60 for a 10" carbon and about £2 for a 5 micron filter.  So, £3.30 per month is about £77p per week.

Resin, well a 25LTR bag of resin lasts me about 7 months and costs about £100 as my 4040 RO gets the water down to about 9ppm.  Thats about £3.30 per week.

Then there's the RO membranes themselves, mine last about 5 years and cost £316.  So that's £1.21 per week.

So your rough weekly estimate:
Water : £17.05
Prefilters : £0.77
Resin : £3.30
RO Membrane : £1.21

TOTAL WEEKLY COST: £22.33

Or 0.8 p per litre.

As for time spent, switching the water on at the end of the day takes about 20 seconds.

Changing the filters takes about 20 mins every other month

Changing the membrane takes about 40 minutes every 5 years.

Changing the resin about 30 mins every 7 months.

So, total time taken equates to about 15 mins per month.

My advice would never ever be reliant on someone else for something as essential as pure water. Plus it will always always be cheaper to produce yourself.

And what’s this “an hour making it” lol! It takes seconds to switch on.


I have a separate  meter and only pay  for the water no sewage charge on the water for the van works out a lot cheaper


So is your waste going to a soak away?

It goes on the garden providing it doesn’t go down the water authorities drains they cannot charge you the sewage part of the bill .
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 12, 2022, 09:16:59 pm
Yeah I’ve heard this can differ with supplier, not sure how Anglian water do it, think some use a sub meter before RO.

Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: dazmond on July 13, 2022, 08:24:41 am
It costs me around £650 a year in resin and water costs(I'm on a meter)DI only....

It's not cost effective to buy an RO for me.my tap tds is 024 and the waste water alone would bump up my water bill a lot.plus no room for an RO anyway.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 13, 2022, 09:23:46 pm
It costs me around £650 a year in resin and water costs(I'm on a meter)DI only....

It's not cost effective to buy an RO for me.my tap tds is 024 and the waste water alone would bump up my water bill a lot.plus no room for an RO anyway.
Tap water TDS of 24, I'm feeling jealous.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Smudger on July 13, 2022, 11:28:55 pm
Yeah I’ve heard this can differ with supplier, not sure how Anglian water do it, think some use a sub meter before RO.

Anglian are ok with it
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 15, 2022, 07:14:41 am
Yeah I’ve heard this can differ with supplier, not sure how Anglian water do it, think some use a sub meter before RO.

Anglian are ok with it

Just gotta work out if it will end up costing me more by purifying myself.

I have a 750l tank, so it costs me £15 for whole tank from my mate, let’s say I take 700l as it’s never empty.

I reckon I give him £60-75 a month as I am a low water user. I can make a tank last 5 days if I’m careful, no idea how, as everyone else seems to do 500l a day!

Anyway, with the filter changes, resin, RO replacements etc, I’m not convinced it’ll work out much cheaper over a year?
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Splash & dash on July 15, 2022, 08:03:53 am
Yeah I’ve heard this can differ with supplier, not sure how Anglian water do it, think some use a sub meter before RO.

Anglian are ok with it

Just gotta work out if it will end up costing me more by purifying myself.

I have a 750l tank, so it costs me £15 for whole tank from my mate, let’s say I take 700l as it’s never empty.

I reckon I give him £60-75 a month as I am a low water user. I can make a tank last 5 days if I’m careful, no idea how, as everyone else seems to do 500l a day!

Anyway, with the filter changes, resin, RO replacements etc, I’m not convinced it’ll work out much cheaper over a year?


With all the money you are making from softwashing  etc I wouldn’t worry about it just buy what you need and put it down as a business  expense 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 15, 2022, 08:10:36 am
I want to know what it costs you per month or year if easier.

Include water rate

All your filters/maintenance

New RO etc

Resin

The whole lot, let me know what it costs you. Preferably from those who are in hard water areas.

I’m deciding whether to carry on buying from a mate who a 5 min drive away, or produce my own.

I only pay him £15 for 700l and I’ve not got any of the faff of maintenance or new filters etc.

I’m unconvinced it’ll be better to purify myself, but I may do if it works out considerably cheaper.
If you get a receipt from your mate, that would make a significant saving.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 15, 2022, 08:34:55 am
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it

Then again I suppose I would say that wouldn't I! But I do believe it to be true
Fully Automated system  ;) ;) ;)

10 mins to change resin twice a year

filters changes 3 times a year 10 mins

membrane once every 2 years 30 mins

hardly any cost,than time spent drive to and from and waiting to fill up
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 15, 2022, 10:31:48 am
Yeah I’ve heard this can differ with supplier, not sure how Anglian water do it, think some use a sub meter before RO.

Anglian are ok with it

Just gotta work out if it will end up costing me more by purifying myself.

I have a 750l tank, so it costs me £15 for whole tank from my mate, let’s say I take 700l as it’s never empty.

I reckon I give him £60-75 a month as I am a low water user. I can make a tank last 5 days if I’m careful, no idea how, as everyone else seems to do 500l a day!

Anyway, with the filter changes, resin, RO replacements etc, I’m not convinced it’ll work out much cheaper over a year?


With all the money you are making from softwashing  etc I wouldn’t worry about it just buy what you need and put it down as a business  expense 😂😂😂😂

Love it, just put softwash prices up as well  ;D
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: cgh window cleaning on July 15, 2022, 12:14:01 pm
The other cost to consider is in time spent, if it you fiddle with your RO for an hour that's an hour you're not earning.

I supply pure water to window cleaners and because I make a lot of water there are economies of scale so I can do it cheaper than a householder but of course I charge slightly more and that's my profit margin.
The savings you can make by making your own aren't that great, and once you allow for time spent I would say you're better off buying, if you have a reliable source of water you don't even have to think about it





You sound Like the guy that set up spotless water.

Long before spotless was about I use to buy water from the guy that set it up.
He would often try and tell me it would be expensive and time consuming to do it for my self.

When I set my own system up I realised not only how much cheaper but so much more convenient it is.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: NWH on July 15, 2022, 12:36:49 pm
What you on about buy it from these people it only works out about 300-350 a month for 1 man 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: zesty on July 15, 2022, 01:56:59 pm
What you on about buy it from these people it only works out about 300-350 a month for 1 man 😂😂😂😂

Not for me, £15 for 700-750l is cheap. Spotless are an absolute rip. Not my mate, that’s why I’ve got the dilemma…
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: NWH on July 15, 2022, 02:41:55 pm
It works out peanuts compared to these people and as for time turn a tap turn on RO booster 1000ltrs in 3 hours,handy if you’re out and about on a big job if you need to top up or if you live in a flat.
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: H2GoKent on July 21, 2022, 09:33:53 pm
What you on about buy it from these people it only works out about 300-350 a month for 1 man 😂😂😂😂

Not for me, £15 for 700-750l is cheap. Spotless are an absolute rip. Not my mate, that’s why I’ve got the dilemma…

I'm about half the price of Spotless.  ;)
And you can't buy time, so having a supplier can be useful as a back up
 sorry had to try and have the last word  ;D
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 25, 2022, 07:48:44 am
What you on about buy it from these people it only works out about 300-350 a month for 1 man 😂😂😂😂

Not for me, £15 for 700-750l is cheap. Spotless are an absolute rip. Not my mate, that’s why I’ve got the dilemma…


 sorry had to try and have the last word  ;D
really  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Those who purify with RO, cost please
Post by: NBwcs on July 25, 2022, 08:35:42 pm
This thread has been a real eye opener for me, i didn't realise how good ive got it. I have a 1000l ibc in the garage and transfer to a 500l tank in van each night.

Bought a ro compact (or equivalent) from Pure freedom 18 yrs ago.(todays price £192 divided by 18 = £10.66 pa) I change the filters every 4 months (annual cost £54), the present membranes are bringing the tds down from 400 to just 3. Ive had them for 3 yrs (£56.13 x2 divided by 3 = £37,42 pa). Because the membranes are doing their job so well, i only use 1 bag of resin a year (£118,32 pa). I use a booster pump, which say lasts 3 yrs (£123.98 divided by 3 = £41.33 pa). So thats £261.73 per annum ie a fiver a week (prices include vat) without water charges if that helps Zesty. As for time, i bet i spend alot less time on the ro than i would travelling to collect water.