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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Perfect Windows on June 07, 2022, 05:38:37 pm
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Anyone dealt with this? The exploded views of electric vans seem to show vast battery banks under the van floor. Has anyone any experience of trying to bolt though the van floor above these?
Cheers,
Vin
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I was watching a video today about what happens when Lithium meets water - it's most entertaining but a bit of a worry as well.
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You can get a lithium battery in the 45ltr trolley from Xline lol.
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https://youtu.be/vRKK6pliejs?t=19
Handle with care, as The Wilburys said.
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Wait till you see an electric car fire.
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Hi vin.
I have 4 electric vans, we used the anchor points to bolt the frame down.
No problems.
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Hi vin.
I have 4 electric vans, we used the anchor points to bolt the frame down.
No problems.
This is what I did with my frame in my diesel connect 5 years ago(they have a false floor)....👍🙂
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Hi vin.
I have 4 electric vans, we used the anchor points to bolt the frame down.
No problems.
By anchor points, are we discussing the load rings in the van floor or something more substantial?
Vin
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Hi vin.
I have 4 electric vans, we used the anchor points to bolt the frame down.
No problems.
By anchor points, are we discussing the load rings in the van floor or something more substantial?
Vin
The load rings are just bolt heads.
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Hi vin.
I have 4 electric vans, we used the anchor points to bolt the frame down.
No problems.
By anchor points, are we discussing the load rings in the van floor or something more substantial?
Vin
The load rings are just bolt heads.
I don't think these are strong enough
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Only the screws holding it in they usual put spreader plates under the van with heavy duty bolts washers and nuts.
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My local garage took out the bolt rings and screwed into the screw thread using bits of angle iron then grippatank bolted my diesel heater to the back end of my tank frame....its not going anywhere!
Easiest solution IMO
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Hello soupy
Am looking at the electric partner van, but like others there is so many questions with them.
What electric vans are u using, have u got them with split relays from van battery and what is ur maximum mileage per full charge.
The newer partner vans have 176 mile but in reality say 150, I cover north west so would need the 150 miles some days we’ll say about 120 would be a maximum in a day
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Hello soupy
Am looking at the electric partner van, but like others there is so many questions with them.
What electric vans are u using, have u got them with split relays from van battery and what is ur maximum mileage per full charge.
The newer partner vans have 176 mile but in reality say 150, I cover north west so would need the 150 miles some days we’ll say about 120 would be a maximum in a day
They are eVitos, 3 are 80 mile range, 1 is 150
I cover NE Scotland the 80 mile ones - we had to modify rounds to suit, the 150 one can do almost any of our rounds.
We just hooked the pump straight onto the vehicle battery (instruments not the main drive battery) been running 8 months now no issues. The battery in the Merc is a standard van battery but with no starter to run it's oversized anyway.
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I have an env200 nissan
I have a ,350 ltre tank in the back with a reelmast er on top the batteries are underneath the bulkhead half way down the van
The tank is at the rear bolted through the floor just enough room to fit
Hope this helps
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The tests manufacturers issue are set in 23 degrees on perfectly flat road conditions which don't exist. It is estimated that you take off 20-25 percent for realistic figures in ideal conditions.
Outside of 23 degrees perfect temperature for batteries, the mileage will deterioriate, i.e UK cold temperatures and excessive heat, steep inclines, lights on, heating on, defrosting the windscreen, the list goes on.
I'm just grateful I will be retired before I need to replace it with an EV.
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The tests manufacturers issue are set in 23 degrees on perfectly flat road conditions which don't exist. It is estimated that you take off 20-25 percent for realistic figures in ideal conditions.
Outside of 23 degrees perfect temperature for batteries, the mileage will deterioriate, i.e UK cold temperatures and excessive heat, steep inclines, lights on, heating on, defrosting the windscreen, the list goes on.
I'm just grateful I will be retired before I need to replace it with an EV.
Errr kind of.
Summer is definitely better than winter (it's the element that warms the cab that is the issue) but at the moment all the vans are getting pretty much stated miles, that's loaded with water over hills etc.
Even in Scottish mid winter we weren't losing 25% though, not once we got the hang of it. Warm the van up before you unplug it and you're good to go.
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Errr kind of.
Summer is definitely better than winter (it's the element that warms the cab that is the issue) but at the moment all the vans are getting pretty much stated miles, that's loaded with water over hills etc.
Even in a Scottish mid winter we weren't losing 25% though, not once we got the hang of it. Warm the van up before you unplug it and you're good to go.
That’s interesting that you get the stated miles even fully loaded. Out of interest what vans do you have? And what size tanks do they have?
I’ve been interested in the transit custom hybrid, the 30 or so mile range would do for me a lot of the time.
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eVitos 650l
I think that the reason the weight doesn't seem to matter as much as you'd expect is that the van has regenerative braking. Additional energy expended to get the weight moving is also used to harvest energy when you slow down again. Obviously that's not going to be perfect but I'm convinced it makes a big difference.
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An electric van would be ideal for me as I do very little mileage.i hate the thought of having to get rid of my diesel heater though....
ive probably got another10 years left in my present van and system
I'll probably have to fit an immersion to be able to work with hot water in an electric van
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You wouldn’t need to get rid of the heater you would just need to suck diesel from a separate tank inside the back of the vehicle,I did this for years with another van.
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You wouldn’t need to get rid of the heater you would just need to suck diesel from a separate tank inside the back of the vehicle,I did this for years with another van.
It's a bit of a faff though having to carry jerry cans in the van and filling them up.if/when I go electric I'll be heating my water up with electric too
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An electric van would be ideal for me as I do very little mileage.i hate the thought of having to get rid of my diesel heater though....
ive probably got another10 years left in my present van and system
I'll probably have to fit an immersion to be able to work with hot water in an electric van
10 years time I suspect that electric vans will be much improved.
The infrastructure is pants, especially round here but I've got a charger at home, 2 at the yard, 2 at my dad's house and we're about to put another in at my sister's house.
Not cheap but once it's done it's done.
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You don’t need carry anything I used to pull in to a petrol station and have the army style 20 liter can just inside the side door and put the diesel pump in the van and fill it up,you need to use a metal can because the plastic ones tend to leak a little more a you get more of a smell of diesel.
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You wouldn’t need to get rid of the heater you would just need to suck diesel from a separate tank inside the back of the vehicle,I did this for years with another van.
It's a bit of a faff though having to carry jerry cans in the van and filling them up.if/when I go electric I'll be heating my water up with electric too
The time you’ve had the heater on in winter inside the van and electric seats as well as heating water you’ll be lucky to off the drive with the range you’ll have Daz 😂
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If you know you will only be doing local stuff I would say an electric van would be a great option,it’s just not possible for most of us to even consider due to the range that’s available at the moment.
I watched a YouTube video of a plumber that went from Kent to London each day working I think it was a Toyota medium style van fully electric,it had a range of roughly 170-180 miles and he really struggled to get there and back each day due to the range not being accurate at all if he had the heater on first thing or a blast of air con.
I can go miles and miles without seeing charging points in the South East.
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An electric van would be ideal for me as I do very little mileage.i hate the thought of having to get rid of my diesel heater though....
ive probably got another10 years left in my present van and system
I'll probably have to fit an immersion to be able to work with hot water in an electric van
10 years time I suspect that electric vans will be much improved.
The infrastructure is pants, especially round here but I've got a charger at home, 2 at the yard, 2 at my dad's house and we're about to put another in at my sister's house.
Not cheap but once it's done it's done.
How much you paying per kWh? How many units does a van use on a typical day?
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An electric van would be ideal for me as I do very little mileage.i hate the thought of having to get rid of my diesel heater though....
ive probably got another10 years left in my present van and system
I'll probably have to fit an immersion to be able to work with hot water in an electric van
10 years time I suspect that electric vans will be much improved.
The infrastructure is pants, especially round here but I've got a charger at home, 2 at the yard, 2 at my dad's house and we're about to put another in at my sister's house.
Not cheap but once it's done it's done.
How much you paying per kWh? How many units does a van use on a typical day?
Full whack unfortunately. When I signed up for the vans I was on 26p kw/h but my provider went bust and I was shipped over to Shell.
The vans are costing me around £180 - £200 per month in electric. The Diesels cost me around £250 - £300 at the moment. No road tax either.