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Title: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 06, 2022, 08:04:12 am
Woke up monday morning with a sore right foot.tried to take the dog for a walk but came home after 10 mins.i think I've strained the tendons on the top of my foot somehow....

It's still the same today(fri morning)so looks like I need to keep off my feet as much as possible as it's not healing.

I've been limping around my work all week and still going the gym but looks like I might need to take a full week off and basically do nothing!(which is hard for me to do!)

Anyone else injured their foot before? constantly having to put weight on it is not helping it at all! ::)roll
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 06, 2022, 10:35:36 am
Yeah had foot trouble years ago and still time to time it all comes from the calf muscles and hamstrings trust me on this,if it’s under the foot you need to stretch the hamstrings massively if it’s top or to the right hand side when you look down at your right foot it’s the calf and outer calf that needs massaging obviously opposite of it’s the left leg-foot.
There’s a tendon down the side of the calf right in the middle that runs from the calf to the outer side of the foot about 18” long if that gets tight you’ll get upper outer foot pain,massage it and ice it as soon as you press on it if it’s tender you’ve found the issue I had it for about 3 years.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 06, 2022, 12:44:06 pm
I injured my foot once …. but that was too much sex.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 06, 2022, 01:05:57 pm
It's sounds like drummer's foot, to me.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: zesty on May 06, 2022, 01:22:01 pm
I’ve had pressure pain on the sole of my foot right on the ball of my feet a few times. Similar to ‘policeman’s heal’ but not on the heal!

Makes it almost impossible to bare weight on it.

Hopefully a weeks rest will sort you out.

Last time I had it bad, we were off on holiday to Corfu, which did mean rest from work, but also made the first couple of days of the holiday a limping nuisance.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Bungle on May 06, 2022, 01:23:21 pm
Try having Plantar fasciitis in both feet at the same time and working through it. I've had it for well over a year now. Hopefully the doctor will give me an injection when I go later.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Ggh on May 06, 2022, 01:30:52 pm
Hi hat or bass drum?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: ray l on May 06, 2022, 01:31:21 pm
could be gout
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 06, 2022, 01:51:40 pm
Bungle that’s what policeman’s heal is Plantar honestly it comes from tight hamstrings not the foot itself,when you loosen those foot pain in a lot of cases goes away paid a fortune before I finally found a good  therapist that explained it and at first I thought it was going to be another waste of time,pain in the feet always start from the lower back downwards.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 06, 2022, 02:15:21 pm
Bungle that’s what policeman’s heal is Plantar honestly it comes from tight hamstrings not the foot itself,when you loosen those foot pain in a lot of cases goes away paid a fortune before I finally found a good  therapist that explained it and at first I thought it was going to be another waste of time,pain in the feet always start from the lower back downwards.

I must be unusual. My feet start just after my ankles.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: tlwcs on May 06, 2022, 02:18:34 pm
Good job you’ve got 400k in cash stuffed in the mattress
Get well soon
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 06, 2022, 02:47:41 pm
thats it for me now until at least tuesday.....if its still not right after 3 days with my feet up then ill take the whole week off next week.....its horrible having to limp everywhere.ill still be going to the gym tomorrow and monday though for my own well being/sanity....

i had a glass roof to clean this afternoon which wasnt fun as i had to get my ladders off.....

the dog will just end up staring at me and barking because i wont be taking her for a walk for a while! ::)roll ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 06, 2022, 03:52:31 pm
thats it for me now until at least tuesday.....if its still not right after 3 days with my feet up then ill take the whole week off next week.....its horrible having to limp everywhere.ill still be going to the gym tomorrow and monday though for my own well being/sanity....

i had a glass roof to clean this afternoon which wasnt fun as i had to get my ladders off.....

the dog will just end up staring at me and barking because i wont be taking her for a walk for a while! ::)roll ;D
What about her well being and sanity?
What sort of it dog is it? A heeler?
She might be able to heal your policeman's heel.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Granny on May 06, 2022, 04:00:25 pm
I’ve had pressure pain on the sole of my foot right on the ball of my feet a few times. Similar to ‘policeman’s heal’ but not on the heal!

Makes it almost impossible to bare weight on it.

Hopefully a weeks rest will sort you out.

Last time I had it bad, we were off on holiday to Corfu, which did mean rest from work, but also made the first couple of days of the holiday a limping nuisance.
Ball of the foot sounds like a symptom of Gout.
Booze, Shellfish, Pulses, Red Meat all the signs of a good life can cause it!
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 06, 2022, 04:08:57 pm
Yeah they used to say it was only an ailment of royalty 🤴 these days it’s gone more mainstream usually half the McDonald’s queue has gout 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 06, 2022, 05:05:57 pm
I’ve broken metatarsals in my feet numerous times. No fun. Get well soon Daz, unfortunately you’re getting to that age where things start falling to pieces.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Gringo on May 06, 2022, 05:43:13 pm
I reckon it Might be those heated seats playing havoc with your big muscles
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: zesty on May 06, 2022, 07:59:41 pm
I’ve had pressure pain on the sole of my foot right on the ball of my feet a few times. Similar to ‘policeman’s heal’ but not on the heal!

Makes it almost impossible to bare weight on it.

Hopefully a weeks rest will sort you out.

Last time I had it bad, we were off on holiday to Corfu, which did mean rest from work, but also made the first couple of days of the holiday a limping nuisance.
Ball of the foot sounds like a symptom of Gout.
Booze, Shellfish, Pulses, Red Meat all the signs of a good life can cause it!

That was ruled out as it’s not the actual ball joint, it’s the soft tissue, very odd, thankfully only had it a few times. Seems to be the same pain as policeman’s heal, just not in the heal  ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: lal on May 06, 2022, 08:03:51 pm
thats it for me now until at least tuesday.....if its still not right after 3 days with my feet up then ill take the whole week off next week.....its horrible having to limp everywhere.ill still be going to the gym tomorrow and monday though for my own well being/sanity....

i had a glass roof to clean this afternoon which wasnt fun as i had to get my ladders off.....

the dog will just end up staring at me and barking because i wont be taking her for a walk for a while! ::)roll ;D

Hi dazmond, hope you get well soon, seriously though dazmond, you  should listen to NWH, ive read a lot of his past
posts on foot trouble, and specialists he's tried and failed with, he's had a lot of experience with this sort of thing, you
could seriously benefit from his knowledge, and save yourself a lot of time & Pain.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 07, 2022, 09:51:29 am
If I try and stand on my tip toes and put my weight on my right foot its sore just under my toes and on the top of my foot...

The dog dragged my missus round the block so she could get home to me...she's confused! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 07, 2022, 10:54:56 am
I’ve broken metatarsals in my feet numerous times. No fun. Get well soon Daz, unfortunately you’re getting to that age where things start falling to pieces.

That must of been very painful Danny....how long did it take for you to recover?I guess you had crutches?

I'm feeling very well mate apart from my foot.ive lost 17 lbs in the last 12 weeks and not missed a gym session in over 3 months...in fact I'll be in the gym later.i better do a longer session to make up for not moving much the rest of the day!my diet is on point most of the time too...
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 07, 2022, 12:26:14 pm
I’ve had pressure pain on the sole of my foot right on the ball of my feet a few times. Similar to ‘policeman’s heal’ but not on the heal!

Makes it almost impossible to bare weight on it.

Hopefully a weeks rest will sort you out.

Last time I had it bad, we were off on holiday to Corfu, which did mean rest from work, but also made the first couple of days of the holiday a limping nuisance.

Mines the same apart from the extensor tendons on the top of my foot hurt too
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Jonny Swirljet on May 07, 2022, 03:02:44 pm
I used to suffer something similar until i started wearing proper work boots when spending a long time on a ladder.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Bob1980 on May 07, 2022, 05:10:59 pm
Any tips for burning sensation underneath and to the side of shoulder blade. I've tried rests.

What are we classing as the age that things start aching
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 07, 2022, 09:23:28 pm
See a good osteopath deep muscle in the traps and deltoids to loosen off the clavicle,the clavicle is the weakest bone in the body and the shoulder is the most complicated joint just hanging from a bar does wonders.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NBwcs on May 08, 2022, 09:43:29 am
Any tips for burning sensation underneath and to the side of shoulder blade. I've tried rests.

What are we classing as the age that things start aching

Doctor once told me, it all starts going wrong after you turn 50. I guess that fits in with the fact that life expectancy years ago only used to be in the fifties so we're effectively on borrowed time. ;)
Nigels right in as much as alot of pains stem from problems coming from other parts of the body, the thing about that is that its quite likely the problem in your back that causes the problem in your feet quite possibly started from walking incorrectly in the 1st place so it goes full circle which is why I pretty much permanently wear a decent pair of insoles in all footwear, (mine are designed for planteur). The joys of getting older, dont get me started on needing a pee more often and not ignoring the urge to go when you feel it.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 08, 2022, 01:05:17 pm
Using wedges in your shoes isn’t the answer though even if it gives you temporary relieve which is rare you need to get to the root of the problem,you wouldn’t believe the relief you’ll get with  the sole of the foot problems once you’ve stretched out the hamstrings properly.
More often than not foot pain comes from tight tendons and the calf and hamstrings are full of them,imagine it like twisting a door handle when it’s stiff once you WD40 or grease the internals and loosen them up the handle or in you’re case the foot is freed up to move how it should.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 08, 2022, 02:51:26 pm
I’ve broken metatarsals in my feet numerous times. No fun. Get well soon Daz, unfortunately you’re getting to that age where things start falling to pieces.

That must of been very painful Danny....how long did it take for you to recover?I guess you had crutches?

I'm feeling very well mate apart from my foot.ive lost 17 lbs in the last 12 weeks and not missed a gym session in over 3 months...in fact I'll be in the gym later.i better do a longer session to make up for not moving much the rest of the day!my diet is on point most of the time too...

No never had crutches even though I probably should have done on atleast 2 occasions. A weeks rest and a few weeks taking it as easy as possible has been sufficient for my metatarsal injuries. They have been stress fractures from overdoing the running.

6-8 weeks before I could run again though, that wasn’t good.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NBwcs on May 08, 2022, 03:47:41 pm
Using wedges in your shoes isn’t the answer though even if it gives you temporary relieve which is rare you need to get to the root of the problem,you wouldn’t believe the relief you’ll get with  the sole of the foot problems once you’ve stretched out the hamstrings properly.
More often than not foot pain comes from tight tendons and the calf and hamstrings are full of them,imagine it like twisting a door handle when it’s stiff once you WD40 or grease the internals and loosen them up the handle or in you’re case the foot is freed up to move how it should.

Insoles.are more preventative than cure and worth the effort. I've had bouts of planteur which came on when I made the mistake of ditching the insoles as foot appeared ok. Well worth persevering with. Certainly agree that the course of calf exercises are the answer, certainly to PF.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 08, 2022, 04:55:38 pm
Had the same problems as you with the plantar issues honestly it doesn’t seem right but once the hamstrings are loosened along with calf’s the foot problem will go away,every week a few times I make sure I stretch these muscles to keep it away.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 09, 2022, 08:45:07 am
Any tips for burning sensation underneath and to the side of shoulder blade. I've tried rests.

What are we classing as the age that things start aching

I used to get this years ago when I was trad after a long day on the glass...

Fast forward 15 years and I don't get it at all working wfp doing short days(5 or 6 hours on the glass)...

I do a lot of heavy back work in the gym(seated rows, pull downs and T bar rows)and have done for over 6 years now.i think it helps to have a strong mid/upper back esp for awkward windows with a pole...
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 09, 2022, 08:58:43 am
How is your foot Daz?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 09, 2022, 08:59:28 am
My foot feels a bit better today.strangely I've had no swelling  at all.i have got an ankle support bandage on it though.ive basically done nothing for 2 days(apart from 90 mins in the gym on sat afternoon).I've noticed it hurts a lot less when im working out in the gym.i think it's to do with endorphins being released when exercising.

I've been massaging and stretching my foot and calf a few times a day.also been taking ibuprofen which I've now stopped.

I really do find it hard to sit down all day doing nothing.i think I'll fill my van up later and go back to work tomorrow    if it feels even better
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 09, 2022, 12:49:03 pm
Cleaned my van and car inside and out then filled up for tomorrow,soaked 8 xtreme brushes in boiling water to reshape the bristles and sorted a few things out in my storage space...feet up now til the gym at 230pm.

I'm trying to get the balance right between actually using my foot but giving it enough time to rest so it heals...not easy!
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 09, 2022, 02:15:18 pm
I've also found another ankle strap so I think ill wear both of them when on my feet for a few days and see how I go on....
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 09, 2022, 04:03:30 pm
Maybe get mummy to rub it better?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 09, 2022, 04:27:40 pm
Strap it all you want won’t get it better anytime soon.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: lal on May 09, 2022, 09:54:26 pm
Cleaned my van and car inside and out then filled up for tomorrow,soaked 8 xtreme brushes in boiling water to reshape the bristles and sorted a few things out in my storage space...feet up now til the gym at 230pm.

I'm trying to get the balance right between actually using my foot but giving it enough time to rest so it heals...not easy!

Hi dazmond, does soaking the Xtreme brushes in boiling water actually reshape them back to normal,
just asking because Ive never tried it before.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 10, 2022, 10:02:32 am
Yes but you need to pull them out every so often and bend them back into shape,once you’ve done that put them in cold for 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 10, 2022, 10:09:32 am
Yes but you need to pull them out every so often and bend them back into shape,once you’ve done that put them in cold for 2 minutes.
Your feet?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 10, 2022, 11:35:04 am
Strap it all you want won’t get it better anytime soon.

It hasn't at all...this morning it was as bad as ever so I've decided to take the week off...

I'm going for a swim in a bit as I can't just sit in all day doing nothing

Hopefully it'll heal by Monday next week.in hindsight I shouldn't of limped around my work last week as the 5 or 6 hours per day on my feet have not helped at all
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 10, 2022, 11:44:47 am
Cleaned my van and car inside and out then filled up for tomorrow,soaked 8 xtreme brushes in boiling water to reshape the bristles and sorted a few things out in my storage space...feet up now til the gym at 230pm.

I'm trying to get the balance right between actually using my foot but giving it enough time to rest so it heals...not easy!

Hi dazmond, does soaking the Xtreme brushes in boiling water actually reshape them back to normal,
just asking because Ive never tried it before.

Yes it does....I have 2 xtreme brushes in the van and rotate them when they go out of shape until I've got 8 brushes that need reshaping....

That's the paradox of using hot water!they make your bristles go out of shape quicker but the cure is even hotter(boiling)water to get them back how they was! ::)roll ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: zesty on May 10, 2022, 11:54:12 am
Might be time to book in a foot specialist Daz. Find out what’s the issue and the root cause.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 10, 2022, 12:42:20 pm
You’re feet are telling you somethings not right above unless you’ve broken bones by directly doing something to your foot my guess is it’s from the lower back down and I don’t reckon that’ll be far off if you are tight in the legs you won’t be walking correctly and it will effect the feet-gait.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 10, 2022, 01:00:46 pm
You’re feet are telling you somethings not right above unless you’ve broken bones by directly doing something to your foot my guess is it’s from the lower back down and I don’t reckon that’ll be far off if you are tight in the legs you won’t be walking correctly and it will effect the feet-gait.
Like a footnote?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 10, 2022, 01:17:11 pm
Might be time to book in a foot specialist Daz. Find out that issue and the root cause.

I'll give it until Monday and if its no better I'll go and book an appointment with a physiotherapist.....

Just got back from a swim and it feels loads better but I'll be staying off my feet for the rest of the day
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 10, 2022, 01:24:56 pm
You’re feet are telling you somethings not right above unless you’ve broken bones by directly doing something to your foot my guess is it’s from the lower back down and I don’t reckon that’ll be far off if you are tight in the legs you won’t be walking correctly and it will effect the feet-gait.

My foot is defo not broken....the pain would be a lot worse if it was.i wouldn't be able to put any weight on it at all and it would be swollen(which it isnt).

I'm doing foam rolls on the calf,ball on the foot and a few other exercises....

The swimming has helped loosen everything up and increased blood flow...I'm also doing a bit of yoga stretching too which should help
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 10, 2022, 01:31:58 pm
Yoga 🧘‍♀️ is the key m8.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 10, 2022, 02:18:15 pm
I can recommend a good physio right in the middle of your working ‘patch’ Daz. He’ll diagnose the problem and get you a list of stretches and strength exercises in no time. I wouldn’t leave it until Monday, get working on the problem right away.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Slacky on May 10, 2022, 04:36:28 pm
I'd go for a jog.

3 miles should do it.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 10, 2022, 05:43:17 pm
I can recommend a good physio right in the middle of your working ‘patch’ Daz. He’ll diagnose the problem and get you a list of stretches and strength exercises in no time. I wouldn’t leave it until Monday, get working on the problem right away.

I know 2 physios within 5 miles of my house Danny.i know what stretches and exercises to do anyway mate...swimming today did it the world of good.👍
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 10, 2022, 06:00:35 pm
You’re feet are telling you somethings not right above unless you’ve broken bones by directly doing something to your foot my guess is it’s from the lower back down and I don’t reckon that’ll be far off if you are tight in the legs you won’t be walking correctly and it will effect the feet-gait.

My foot is defo not broken....the pain would be a lot worse if it was.i wouldn't be able to put any weight on it at all and it would be swollen(which it isnt).

I'm doing foam rolls on the calf,ball on the foot and a few other exercises....

The swimming has helped loosen everything up and increased blood flow...I'm also doing a bit of yoga stretching too which should help
It could be a stress fracture.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 10, 2022, 09:08:46 pm
I can recommend a good physio right in the middle of your working ‘patch’ Daz. He’ll diagnose the problem and get you a list of stretches and strength exercises in no time. I wouldn’t leave it until Monday, get working on the problem right away.

I know 2 physios within 5 miles of my house Danny.i know what stretches and exercises to do anyway mate...swimming today did it the world of good.👍

Would love to know how you already know what stretches/strength exercise you need to do when you don’t even know what the problem is yet  ;D

Good luck anyway Daz, hope you get it sorted quick.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 10, 2022, 11:12:13 pm
Stretching correctly will get you there all the stretches a good pysio will give you are related to yoga more or less.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 11, 2022, 06:18:00 am
Someone on here did a stretch once for dealing drugs.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2022, 08:02:13 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2022, 08:02:58 am
Someone on here did a stretch once for dealing drugs.

Richy wilts..... ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: lal on May 11, 2022, 08:29:25 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!

Hey dazmond,  i don't get you,  if your van was having engine problems, you would get it straight into the garage to get it
sorted, the same as your Grippatank water heater, to minimise on work Downtime, as we all like our Vans & systems to work
to their full potential, yet you are limping around with a painful foot, taking time off work, hoping it will fix itself, by delaying
seeing a specialist, you could be making the problem worse.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 11, 2022, 08:40:20 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!
Heel fractures are nasty. There's not a lot they can do with them and rehabilitation is a long job.
You could have weakened your plates of meat when you fell off the ladder in the past.
Get to the doctors or hospital.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 11, 2022, 08:40:56 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!

Hey dazmond,  i don't get you,  if your van was having engine problems, you would get it straight into the garage to get it
sorted, the same as your Grippatank water heater, to minimise on work Downtime, as we all like our Vans & systems to work
to their full potential, yet you are limping around with a painful foot, taking time off work, hoping it will fix itself, by delaying
seeing a specialist, you could be making the problem worse.
Well said.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Slacky on May 11, 2022, 08:46:10 am
Just imagine, all those slips that've been printed out....

  :-*
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2022, 09:23:48 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!

Hey dazmond,  i don't get you,  if your van was having engine problems, you would get it straight into the garage to get it
sorted, the same as your Grippatank water heater, to minimise on work Downtime, as we all like our Vans & systems to work
to their full potential, yet you are limping around with a painful foot, taking time off work, hoping it will fix itself, by delaying
seeing a specialist, you could be making the problem worse.

I'll give it until monday and if its no better I'll book an appointment to see someone.itll be 2 weeks next monday since I woke up with a sore foot so any x ray should show up a metatarsal stress fracture for example(before 2 weeks they don't show on x rays).also I'll be able to tell them I've tried ibuprofen,resting it and the foot stretching exercises,etc....without a proper xray it's all guess work anyway even for the specialists
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 11, 2022, 09:26:03 am

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.


Sorry Daz but you are overestimating the amount of pain of a stress fracture. As previously said I’ve had quite a few and most of the time I’ve been able to atleast carry on working. No amount of foam rolling or stretching will help with a stress fracture, only rest.

You could actually be doing a lot more damage with your self diagnosis and self treatment plan.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 11, 2022, 09:27:08 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!

Hey dazmond,  i don't get you,  if your van was having engine problems, you would get it straight into the garage to get it
sorted, the same as your Grippatank water heater, to minimise on work Downtime, as we all like our Vans & systems to work
to their full potential, yet you are limping around with a painful foot, taking time off work, hoping it will fix itself, by delaying
seeing a specialist, you could be making the problem worse.

I'll give it until monday and if its no better I'll book an appointment to see someone.itll be 2 weeks next monday since I woke up with a sore foot so any x ray should show up a metatarsal stress fracture for example(before 2 weeks they don't show on x rays).also I'll be able to tell them I've tried ibuprofen,resting it and the foot stretching exercises,etc....without a proper xray it's all guess work anyway even for the specialists
What?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 11, 2022, 09:54:06 am
Phone the doctors and ask for some “Manup” pills before it’s too late!
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2022, 10:35:17 am

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.


Sorry Daz but you are overestimating the amount of pain of a stress fracture. As previously said I’ve had quite a few and most of the time I’ve been able to atleast carry on working. No amount of foam rolling or stretching will help with a stress fracture, only rest.

You could actually be doing a lot more damage with your self diagnosis and self treatment plan.

Both physiotherapists/osteopaths I know are fully booked this week anyway.the foam rolling and stretching is not just for my foot but my whole body.it makes me feel better while I'm leading a temporary sedentary lifestyle.

So what did you do Danny?carry on working?or did you have a few weeks off with your foot up?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2022, 10:44:37 am
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!

Hey dazmond,  i don't get you,  if your van was having engine problems, you would get it straight into the garage to get it
sorted, the same as your Grippatank water heater, to minimise on work Downtime, as we all like our Vans & systems to work
to their full potential, yet you are limping around with a painful foot, taking time off work, hoping it will fix itself, by delaying
seeing a specialist, you could be making the problem worse.

I'll give it until monday and if its no better I'll book an appointment to see someone.itll be 2 weeks next monday since I woke up with a sore foot so any x ray should show up a metatarsal stress fracture for example(before 2 weeks they don't show on x rays).also I'll be able to tell them I've tried ibuprofen,resting it and the foot stretching exercises,etc....without a proper xray it's all guess work anyway even for the specialists
What?

Metatarsal stress fractures often get missed and don't show up on x rays until new bone starts to grow back....
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 11, 2022, 11:24:15 am

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.


Sorry Daz but you are overestimating the amount of pain of a stress fracture. As previously said I’ve had quite a few and most of the time I’ve been able to atleast carry on working. No amount of foam rolling or stretching will help with a stress fracture, only rest.

You could actually be doing a lot more damage with your self diagnosis and self treatment plan.

Both physiotherapists/osteopaths I know are fully booked this week anyway.the foam rolling and stretching is not just for my foot but my whole body.it makes me feel better while I'm leading a temporary sedentary lifestyle.

So what did you do Danny?carry on working?or did you have a few weeks off with your foot up?

The first time I was forced to take nearly two weeks off then eased myself back in. Wasn’t an option as I was in agony every time I tried to put weight on it.

Second time it wasn’t nearly as bad and I could manage by kind of limping over my big toe. It took ages to heal this time though probably because I didn’t rest, nearly 8 weeks before I was no longer limping.

Third time I did it the day before a 3 week beach  holiday so was able to give it plenty of rest without missing extra work.

1st and 3rd time was picked up on X-ray, second time was during Covid and getting X-ray was impossible but physio diagnosed based on previous history.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 11, 2022, 01:36:28 pm
Thanks Danny..wow that's really bad mate.so your a veteran of broken metatarsals?... :(

I'm not a runner.i do use the bike and rowing machine at the gym though in between my weight training sessions....

I need to get out so im off to the gym soon

Have a great day pal...👍
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 11, 2022, 02:56:36 pm
Yep all caused by running too many miles without building up my mileage properly.

It’s commonly called a marching fracture, common in runners, hikers, soldiers etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_fracture
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 11, 2022, 03:06:23 pm
I’ll only use an Osteopath if I can feel I’ve popped out lower down the back or really need clicking between the shoulder blades,I wouldn’t waste time and money with one for your issue you’d be better off seeing a good physiotherapist unless you’ve broken a bone odds on it’ll be ligament or tendon damage.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 11, 2022, 03:06:59 pm
Probably Gout with you though Daz 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: ErinKeegan on May 12, 2022, 02:58:52 am
Get well soon! I also was in such situation, but it took a very long time to heal
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 12, 2022, 09:53:49 am
Phoned doctors first thing this morning..explained that its 11 days since the injury to receptionist and that my foot is no better.someone should phone me up sometime today hopefully and book me in for an accessment..

Off for a dentist check up now  ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 12, 2022, 09:54:08 am
It does take ages to heal because you think the problem is in the area directly that hurts so you ignore ligaments and tendons above it,if you have strained or tight tendons somewhere else in the leg the foots not able to bend and move freely hence the strain or pull in the foot I spent ages with  a chiropractor trying to sort Plantar issues,he was clueless.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 12, 2022, 11:45:30 am
It does take ages to heal because you think the problem is in the area directly that hurts so you ignore ligaments and tendons above it,if you have strained or tight tendons somewhere else in the leg the foots not able to bend and move freely hence the strain or pull in the foot I spent ages with  a chiropractor trying to sort Plantar issues,he was clueless.

I reckon it's either tendonitis on the top of my foot or a hairline fracture in a metatarsal....

I did another 30 mins this morning of stretches,foam rolling,band work and basic yoga moves...it sets me up for the day...

Off for a swim now to break up the day 🏊‍♂️
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Slacky on May 12, 2022, 12:46:49 pm
I don't know why you don't go to A+ E.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 12, 2022, 12:54:35 pm
Jesus wept! Stop yer moaning, if you’re  fit enough to go to the gym and go swimming there can’t be much wrong with you ya big baby!
I’m sat at home with five broken ribs, I’ll swap with you if you like?
Bodybuilder? My Arse!
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 12, 2022, 01:37:38 pm
Jesus wept! Stop yer moaning, if you’re  fit enough to go to the gym and go swimming there can’t be much wrong with you ya big baby!
I’m sat at home with five broken ribs, I’ll swap with you if you like?
Bodybuilder? My Arse!

Wow!no wonder your grumpy! ;D

I bruised my ribs once(falling over some table and chairs while looking up poling!)...

You must be in a world of pain....every time you cough,laugh or take a dump!

I'll dismiss your  rudeness as your  probably really fed up and bored skulking about the house....👍
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 12, 2022, 01:44:20 pm
Jesus wept! Stop yer moaning, if you’re  fit enough to go to the gym and go swimming there can’t be much wrong with you ya big baby!
I’m sat at home with five broken ribs, I’ll swap with you if you like?
Bodybuilder? My Arse!

Trust me if I could shrug it off I'd be out working mate...swimming and my gym sessions are not hard on my feet....its normal walking and being on my feet for hours that's the problem.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2022, 09:33:10 am
Phoned doctors yesterday and they said someone will get back to me.a doctor phoned up and told me to go online and fill in a form for NHS physio....

At the end of the form it said it could take 6-8 weeks to get treatment... ::)roll

Luckily I've managed to book an appointment with a local chiropodist but he can't fit me in until Monday afternoon.he told me to take 1200mg of ibuprofen every day until he sees me....

Have a good weekend chaps 👍
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2022, 09:45:49 am
I'm planning now to go back to work on the 6th June.so that's another 3 weeks off.hopefully that'll be enough time for my foot to heal.

I'm off to Liverpool for a weekend break at a nice hotel with the missus at the end of the month so I want to be ready for that and the week later is queen jubilee week and a music event to attend!
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: zesty on May 13, 2022, 09:57:08 am
What you gonna about work? You’ll be far behind?

Hopefully you’ll heal up sooner.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2022, 10:04:33 am
What you gonna about work? You’ll be far behind?

Hopefully you’ll heal up sooner.

I'll just reschedule from where I left off last week.its only 4 weeks off.ill notify a few customers too.

I had a month off when I tore some ankle ligaments(on my other foot)years ago....customers were fine about it,most never even noticed or asked where I'd been! ;D

I think trying to go back too early could set me back even further
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 13, 2022, 10:13:46 am
You’re jumping the gun setting a date for a return to work before you’ve even had your issue diagnosed Daz. You could have been in front of my physio (who is local to you) last week and been a week into your rehab by now.

Good luck with your osteopath appointment anyway.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: G Griffin on May 13, 2022, 01:56:54 pm
Woke up at 7am done 30 mins of basic yoga,stretching,foam rolling and a bit of band work with slow,controlled breathing...

Now I'm gonna sit on my arse until my 230pm gym session. ;D

My foot feels worse in the morning,no swelling at all just achy all along the top of my foot when i put weight on it.i think its extensor tendonitis.if it was broken or fractured the pain would be a lot worse and I'd have bruising and swelling.

I fell off my ladders twice and landed on my heels in the past and I was fine.i know window cleaners who shattered their heels falling off theirs....now that must be horrendous!

Hey dazmond,  i don't get you,  if your van was having engine problems, you would get it straight into the garage to get it
sorted, the same as your Grippatank water heater, to minimise on work Downtime, as we all like our Vans & systems to work
to their full potential, yet you are limping around with a painful foot, taking time off work, hoping it will fix itself, by delaying
seeing a specialist, you could be making the problem worse.

I'll give it until monday and if its no better I'll book an appointment to see someone.itll be 2 weeks next monday since I woke up with a sore foot so any x ray should show up a metatarsal stress fracture for example(before 2 weeks they don't show on x rays).also I'll be able to tell them I've tried ibuprofen,resting it and the foot stretching exercises,etc....without a proper xray it's all guess work anyway even for the specialists
What?

Metatarsal stress fractures often get missed and don't show up on x rays until new bone starts to grow back....
You don't know when you did it, do you?
Fractures can get missed if you don't have them X-rayed.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Frankybadboy on May 15, 2022, 06:36:38 pm
you ask for advice and taken none of it and waited 3weeks couldnt make it up



Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 15, 2022, 08:06:18 pm
you ask for advice and taken none of it and waited 3weeks couldnt make it up

It's actually 2 weeks tomorrow since i woke up with it.its feeling a lot better now after 3 days of anti inflammatory tablets...

I've had one full week off work with 3 gym sessions and 2 swims to break up the week...I've even took the dog on a couple of short walks this weekend...

I'm gonna clean a couple of commercial jobs tomorrow  morning then see what the chiropodist thinks(appointment not til 420pm)...🙂👍
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: NWH on May 15, 2022, 08:15:15 pm
I reckon the paint from a toenail has got down between the quick and infected it 🤣🤣🤣🫡
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 16, 2022, 06:36:54 pm
An inferior extensor retinaculum strain is what I've been diagnosed with....it could take 3-6 months to heal fully or it could be as long as 12 months.... ::)roll

I'm going back on wed to get some special insoles which he said should help...

He said I should rest it as much as possible when not working so no walking the dog for a while....
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: zesty on May 16, 2022, 07:17:31 pm
How did you even do it?

Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 16, 2022, 10:42:37 pm
How did you even do it?

No idea....the chiropodist said ive probably knocked it and not even realised I've caused a slight injury to my foot and because I'm active with my job,gym,drumming and walking it's added too much strain over a period of time which has caused it to get much worse....being 50 years old doesn't help either.... ::)roll

Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: lal on May 17, 2022, 08:36:35 am
How did you even do it?

No idea....the chiropodist said ive probably knocked it and not even realised I've caused a slight injury to my foot and because I'm active with my job,gym,drumming and walking it's added too much strain over a period of time which has caused it to get much worse....being 50 years old doesn't help either.... ::)roll

At long last you finally got it diagnosed, all the best dazmond, wishing you a Speedy recovery. 👍
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: DJW on May 17, 2022, 09:32:33 am
That’s toeriffic news! Will you have to foot the bill?
Maybe quit the gym and take up toepiary?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Stoots on May 17, 2022, 11:45:24 am
That 40k you've got saved up will come in handy now then Daz  :D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Jonny 87 on May 17, 2022, 12:39:52 pm
Hope you have a speedy recovery Daz.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 17, 2022, 07:48:02 pm
That’s toeriffic news! Will you have to foot the bill?
Maybe quit the gym and take up toepiary?

How's your ribs?are you back at work yet?
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 17, 2022, 07:50:46 pm
That 40k you've got saved up will come in handy now then Daz  :D

I'm back at work(albeit only for 2 weeks)before a planned week off(jubilee week)....

Not even touched my emergency fund mate! ;)
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 18, 2022, 06:59:44 am
That 40k you've got saved up will come in handy now then Daz  :D

I'm back at work(albeit only for 2 weeks)before a planned week off(jubilee week)....

Not even touched my emergency fund mate! ;)

What happened to staying off until 6th June Daz? Not the best at seeing out a plan are you mate?  ;D
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 18, 2022, 08:50:31 am
That 40k you've got saved up will come in handy now then Daz  :D

I'm back at work(albeit only for 2 weeks)before a planned week off(jubilee week)....

Not even touched my emergency fund mate! ;)

What happened to staying off until 6th June Daz? Not the best at seeing out a plan are you mate?  ;D

Chiropodist said it was fine to go back to work as im only part time but to keep off my feet when not working... :)
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: simon w on May 18, 2022, 12:55:30 pm
That 40k you've got saved up will come in handy now then Daz  :D

He's keeping that to pay for the wedding 😎
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 18, 2022, 07:28:51 pm
That 40k you've got saved up will come in handy now then Daz  :D

He's keeping that to pay for the wedding 😎

I've blown £6.5k of it on a holiday to the Maldives....we only live once....no plans on getting married...feck that!😄😄
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 18, 2022, 07:31:20 pm
This foot injury is a good excuse to get rid of a few more deadwood jobs!every cloud and all that...... 8)
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: Shrek on May 22, 2022, 07:53:51 pm
Iv had tennis elbow for years ( pain in the forearm of my left arm) , probably a mixture of heavy lifting in the gym and window cleaning over the years. Started going to physio every 2 weeks in January this year, then slowly down to once a month. I have been getting cupping therapy. Wow what a miracle, the relief from cupping is amazing and my arm is pretty much 95% better now , iv actually just received a set from Amazon for £22 and works just as good as what I was getting from physio. Not sure if you can put it on your foot though but definitely helps with knots/aches & pains.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B08BKSQPLB?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 23, 2022, 07:26:25 pm
It's 3 weeks now since I woke up with a bad foot.im sick of taking 6 to 8 ibuprofen a day so I'm gonna try and cut them down over the next week or so....

I've only got 3 working days left until 10 days off! :)
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: deeege on May 23, 2022, 08:58:27 pm
It's 3 weeks now since I woke up with a bad foot.im sick of taking 6 to 8 ibuprofen a day so I'm gonna try and cut them down over the next week or so....

I've only got 3 working days left until 10 days off! :)

8 Iboprufen a day? Careful Daz, can do nasty long term damage to your stomach that stuff.
Title: Re: Foot injury
Post by: dazmond on May 24, 2022, 08:44:40 am
It's 3 weeks now since I woke up with a bad foot.im sick of taking 6 to 8 ibuprofen a day so I'm gonna try and cut them down over the next week or so....

I've only got 3 working days left until 10 days off! :)

8 Iboprufen a day? Careful Daz, can do nasty long term damage to your stomach that stuff.

Took 4 yesterday and I'll take 4 today and see if I can manage on 2 a day by weekend...

I've had no trouble with my stomach as I take them with food(but they do make me  feel a bit sick and dizzy occasionally though)...