Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Adam Tarpley on April 12, 2022, 08:29:35 pm
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Hi All. Only been going few months still site labouring 2-3 days a week I have been putting my fliers in there handover basket and accounted for about 30 % of my small round but got court today By assistant manager and he suggested I can carry on for £20 a property I get. I do have the 3 show homes weekly on a gd rate. So what would you chaps with experience do?
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So if I’m understanding this correctly, you have to pay the assistant site manager £20 for every new build property you pick up to clean windows? Bit cheeky putting your flier in but I’d tell him to stick it & go direct to the homeowners as they move in.
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So you took advantage of you being in the houses and he is trying to take his own advantage.
If you are getting 30% on a new build estate that will be great compact work. I would say it's well worth £20 a property, but to put it down as a business expense I would want him to invoice you! If he's not happy to invoice suggest £10 a property?
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I’d tell the assistant site manager to keep his nose out of your business.
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Does he get a cut when the ground workers upgrade the homeowners patio, the brickies build extra retaining walls the new owners have decided they’d like or the landscapers supply extra shrubs?
Tell him to stick it.
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Tell him you will give him the £20 only for any property that he gets for you. The rest are fair game I would carry on with the flyers and door knock everyone as soon as the people move in. Your in an ideal situation here to build a very compact round take every advantage of this. Price well and get as many as possible. If he's not happy then tough ;D
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Go and canvass elsewhere, start asking family and friends, start a facebook page.
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Go and canvass elsewhere, start asking family and friends, start a facebook page.
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Take the deal.
£20 is well worth it for first dibs at a new build, plus if you’re flyer is in the basket, there is an implied recommendation from the building company. You won’t get that kind of endorsement from just leafleting alone.
Yes he’s a bit of a scoundrel for asking, but it’s still well worthwhile, and at least now you won’t have to hide what you’re doing. You now have permission.
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I would just laugh at him and tell him to jog on 😂😂😂😂😂
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Hi All. Only been going few months still site labouring 2-3 days a week I have been putting my fliers in there handover basket and accounted for about 30 % of my small round but got court today By assistant manager and he suggested I can carry on for £20 a property I get. I do have the 3 show homes weekly on a gd rate. So what would you chaps with experience do?
How will he know how many properties you get for his £20 a pop?
Will he be declaring this income revenue on his tax return?
Will he be telling his boss that he's getting a cut from a sideline job on the development?
Sounds like he's saying carry on and give me £20 a property or your labouring job might come to an end. It's blackmail.
Good for you for trying to get on.
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Hi All. Only been going few months still site labouring 2-3 days a week I have been putting my fliers in there handover basket and accounted for about 30 % of my small round but got court today By assistant manager and he suggested I can carry on for £20 a property I get. I do have the 3 show homes weekly on a gd rate. So what would you chaps with experience do?
How will he know how many properties you get for his £20 a pop?
Will he be declaring this income revenue on his tax return?
Will he be telling his boss that he's getting a cut from a sideline job on the development?
Sounds like he's saying carry on and give me £20 a property or your labouring job might come to an end. It's bribery.
Good for you for trying to get on.
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sounds more like blackmail....
Darran
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Hi All. Only been going few months still site labouring 2-3 days a week I have been putting my fliers in there handover basket and accounted for about 30 % of my small round but got court today By assistant manager and he suggested I can carry on for £20 a property I get. I do have the 3 show homes weekly on a gd rate. So what would you chaps with experience do?
How will he know how many properties you get for his £20 a pop?
Will he be declaring this income revenue on his tax return?
Will he be telling his boss that he's getting a cut from a sideline job on the development?
Sounds like he's saying carry on and give me £20 a property or your labouring job might come to an end. It's bribery.
Good for you for trying to get on.
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sounds more like blackmail....
Darran
That's the word 👍
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Canvass or leaflet them in your own time not work time then there's nothing he can do.
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Thanks for all your responce. I think I'm gonna do what do what stoots says I'll knock there doors. Thinking 2 days after they moved in. As it's a stress moving do you think 2 days is okay?
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Legally you aren’t covered to clean windows on that site if you work there as a labourer,you certainly won’t be if you fall off a ladder or cause damage to a property do you think the site manger will cover for you if break you’re back.
Public liability etc it’s not just a case of there’s some windows go clean em today m8
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They should by law employ a company or someone that is insured to be on that site cleaning windows,you should have to provide proof I had to years ago even.
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Also I do think it's blackmail/bribery and did toy with the idear that it's worth paying but morally it's wrong and thats nots the route I want to go. I'm going to do as said and drag it out on site till I'm got rid off
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Nwh yes fully insured with pl. Cscs but that don't matter as all the property arnt on site. So where you coming from??
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Nwh yes fully insured with pl. Cscs but that don't matter as all the property arnt on site. So where you coming from??
We all been trying to work that out for years!🤣
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The way I’m reading this you work as a labourer and are putting tickets in houses to build up a business,if this is not done through the company you work for and off you’re own back you should be separately insured.
How can you be working for them and self employed with insurance etc,just sayin.
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If so and it’s all above board why are you dishing out to that site manger.
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He’s taking on the customers after the plots have been handed over. They are not ‘on site’ once they are handed over.
He has his own PL insurance separate, which is all he needs.
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You dont need ANY insurance to clean windows period
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You do if you are doing on a building site for a reputable building company they will-should ask for a copy of it,I have to send in copies of up to date insurance every year before another contract is issued.
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You do if you are doing on a building site for a reputable building company they will-should ask for a copy of it,I have to send in copies of up to date insurance every year before another contract is issued.
Read it again.
HE IS NOT ON A BUILDING WORKING FOR THE BUILDER!
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You dont need ANY insurance to clean windows period
It depends what you what you mean by 'need'.
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Just wait until the new owners have moved in and get your leaflet in first.
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If you are cleaning windows on certain properties you need insurance I’ve just sent 3 copies off for yearly contracts,ok you say you don’t need it for “Cleaning Windows” I can assure you you’re wrong Housing Associations all ask for it.
If you just go out cleaning windows and the pole drops on a 150 grand car good luck with that one.
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He is not working for a housing association - he is independant of the builder
So no he does not need it - silly not to have it and his post on Mei are he does have it
The assistant site manager is trying a fast one - although the op is a bit naughty adds Bt his flyer to the handover basket - but that’s business 😊
Darran
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If you are cleaning windows on certain properties you need insurance I’ve just sent 3 copies off for yearly contracts,ok you say you don’t need it for “Cleaning Windows” I can assure you you’re wrong Housing Associations all ask for it.
If you just go out cleaning windows and the pole drops on a 150 grand car good luck with that one.
No Nigel as usual you are wrong :)
You dont need any insurance for cleaning windows, commercial jobs may insist you have it to secure the contract but its not a legal requirment. Plus we are talking about domestic customers here so as i said you dont need insurance, it would be advisable to have it but thats not the same thing.
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Are you saying you don’t need insurance for domestic customers like I say what happens if I were to damage a customers car worth 1000s,I clean domestic properties day to day it would make me uneasy if I didn’t have insurance with some of the houses I go to.
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Yes - insurance is not a requirement - but a sensible thing to have
What you doing sending insurance details to housing associations - you have always claimed this to be sh!t£ Paying work
Darran
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Stoots said you don't need insurance to clean windows period.
You might need it to clean some windows.