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Title: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: elite mike on March 11, 2022, 09:35:23 am
Hi guys , just wondered how long would you expect the Pure freedom  flowmaster digi fm to last ?

Mine is around 2 years old and has not had  that much use ,ie used as a back up system.
I have had contact with Pure freedom who said just buy a new one , not built to last like they advertise .
Can you recommend a flow controller which would last?
Thanks
Mike.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: britishwill on March 13, 2022, 08:47:00 pm
In 11 years I have never had one fail from pf. Must be unlucky
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Spruce on March 15, 2022, 06:59:13 pm
Hi guys , just wondered how long would you expect the Pure freedom  flowmaster digi fm to last ?

Mine is around 2 years old and has not had  that much use ,ie used as a back up system.
I have had contact with Pure freedom who said just buy a new one , not built to last like they advertise .
Can you recommend a flow controller which would last?
Thanks
Mike.

Of course PureFreedom will advise that. It's out of its warranty and they want to sell you another.

If you are after another controller with dead end, then Spring are the only manufacturers. They supply the same product to all the WFP suppliers with each suppliers logo and colour scheme.

I would send it back to Spring Europe and get them to identify the fault and repair if required.

With the older V11 controllers, failures were mainly the result of reversed polarity when connecting the battery up and very occasionally, moisture ingress.
One of the local lads has 2 on his van from PF.  They are around 17 years old. (He got his 2 man system from PF  before I fitted my van system back in 2007.)


Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Rob.Hall on March 15, 2022, 10:38:40 pm
Spring v11.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Spruce on March 16, 2022, 06:12:47 am
Spring v11.

Would I send it back to Spring to have it repaired, or use that ± £40  toward buying the latest V16?  Even with my "repair it when ever you can" mind set, I would probably opt for a new V16 controller.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Smudger on March 16, 2022, 08:07:13 am
Spring are excellent and will repair - but check with ian as some older models are now not being repaired

Darran
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Ian Sheppard on March 16, 2022, 12:15:59 pm
Hi guys , just wondered how long would you expect the Pure freedom  flowmaster digi fm to last ?

Mine is around 2 years old and has not had  that much use ,ie used as a back up system.
I have had contact with Pure freedom who said just buy a new one , not built to last like they advertise .
Can you recommend a flow controller which would last?
Thanks
Mike.

Morning Mike. As the manufacturer Spring does offer and inspection and repair service depending on why the controller has stopped working we  repair if we can. As the controller is 2 + years old there is a charge which is from £39.70 + Vat. The process can take 2 + weeks allowing for it being posted back to us, inspection repair and sending it back out. If you would like to do this drop me an email.

In some cases depending on the damage to the PCB the controller might not be economically repairable and buying  a new replacement is the better way to go. The New V16 does have a number of differences compared to the V11 and ae still designed and made in the UK with a 2 year return to bases warranty

Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on March 16, 2022, 02:47:06 pm
The V16 is a brilliant controller.
I got one pre-wired to a shurflo on a metal back plate last year from pure freedom. Worked flawlessly so far. I also took the opportunity to replumb with plastic pipe and JG fittings.
 https://purefreedom.co.uk/product/100psi-shurflo-pump-strainer-and-flowmaster-controller-on-back-plate/

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1647442005_20210816_130745_copy_642x1358.jpg)
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: NWH on March 16, 2022, 02:51:54 pm
I’m probably going to get a new static setup from them next week does anyone have their setup,booster pump with a controller with auto
Shut off etc.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: NWH on March 16, 2022, 02:53:27 pm
Their made in Crowborough East Sussex nearly all those controllers if not all come from them,”Spring”.
I popped down there once they won’t sell at the door it has to go through agents.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Smudger on March 16, 2022, 02:56:12 pm
I love the v16 controllers I think I now have 4 of them

Darran
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on March 16, 2022, 03:00:53 pm
It's got some cool features, one, which I haven't actually seen documented, is the requirement to hold the on button for a microsecond to turn on. This prevents accidental switch on.👍
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: JandS on March 16, 2022, 06:25:36 pm
I have the new one with the pump on a backplate from PF......works brlliant but what are the new cool features?
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: NWH on March 16, 2022, 07:29:21 pm
He reckons I’ll get over a 1000 in about 2-5 hours with a booster pump which will be handy.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Ian Sheppard on March 17, 2022, 05:11:06 pm
There are a number of changes with the V16. It is a new design and PCB using an Arm processor . This has allowed up to improve polarity protection on the power into the controller from the Battery ( Red and Black cables) If these are connected the wrong way round the controller will not switch on. Correct the cables and it will power up as normal

Other changes is the maximum amp rating which on the V16 is 15a (the V11 was 10a)
The V16 can handle a wider rage of pumps

A new Drive stage means that the pump is driven much more efficiently and this can reduce current draw from the battery. In some cases the pump runs quieter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhbZirSlpI&t=12s
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: elite mike on March 17, 2022, 08:11:24 pm
Thanks everyone, think I have been unlucky with this one, will message Ian tomorrow 👍.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on March 17, 2022, 10:58:25 pm
Thanks everyone, think I have been unlucky with this one, will message Ian tomorrow 👍.

You still slaying the axe Mike?😎🤟
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Ian Sheppard on March 18, 2022, 11:22:20 am
Thanks everyone, think I have been unlucky with this one, will message Ian tomorrow 👍.
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Hi Mike email is ian.sheppard@springltd.co

I am out of the office this afternoon so it might be Monday before i see messages

Cheers
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: elite mike on March 18, 2022, 08:05:24 pm
Thanks everyone, think I have been unlucky with this one, will message Ian tomorrow 👍.

You still slaying the axe Mike?😎🤟
Hi winpro, yesi am still having a few strumming moments 😉😅
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on March 18, 2022, 08:50:02 pm
Thanks everyone, think I have been unlucky with this one, will message Ian tomorrow 👍.

You still slaying the axe Mike?😎🤟
Hi winpro, yesi am still having a few strumming moments 😉😅

Have a look at the Positive Grid Spark40 amp. Can't praise it enough, never played so much since getting this incredible little box of tricks. 👍😎👌
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: Spruce on March 19, 2022, 08:19:14 am
There are a number of changes with the V16. It is a new design and PCB using an Arm processor . This has allowed up to improve polarity protection on the power into the controller from the Battery ( Red and Black cables) If these are connected the wrong way round the controller will not switch on. Correct the cables and it will power up as normal

Other changes is the maximum amp rating which on the V16 is 15a (the V11 was 10a)
The V16 can handle a wider rage of pumps

A new Drive stage means that the pump is driven much more efficiently and this can reduce current draw from the battery. In some cases the pump runs quieter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhbZirSlpI&t=12s

Hi Ian
Just a question, please. Does the on/off switch cut power to the controller completely? Thanks.
Title: Re: Pure freedom flowmaster life .
Post by: elite mike on March 23, 2022, 07:33:59 pm
Thanks everyone, think I have been unlucky with this one, will message Ian tomorrow 👍.

You still slaying the axe Mike?😎🤟
Hi winpro, yesi am still having a few strumming moments 😉😅

Have a look at the Positive Grid Spark40 amp. Can't praise it enough, never played so much since getting this incredible little box of tricks. 👍😎👌
yes i heard its great , but if i buy anything else the mrs will kill me  ;D
i did buy a mooer ge 300 with a boss dc 10 which is a lot of fun , just got to learn to use it properly  ;D