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Title: Storm Eunice
Post by: deeege on February 17, 2022, 02:28:57 pm
So storm Eunice is expected overnight and through tomorrow, winds of upto 100mph forecast, worse in the south of the country.

Which of you hero’s will be out working tomorrow?

Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 02:38:44 pm
I’ve got a office to do tomorrow morning 70ft pole needed it’ll take most of the day lol yeah right oh,they say stay indoors tomorrow but it’ll only be worth doing that if you’ve still got a roof above your head.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Soupy on February 17, 2022, 02:49:52 pm
Forecast looks OK up here.

About time one of these storms missed us.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NBwcs on February 17, 2022, 03:01:57 pm
Quite looking forward to an enforced day off of doing absolutely nowt.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 03:11:31 pm
So storm Eunice is expected overnight and through tomorrow, winds of upto 100mph forecast, worse in the south of the country.

Which of you hero’s will be out working tomorrow?
We're working. I think I saw 40mph winds? Guys under instruction to sit in the van if unsafe.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Soupy on February 17, 2022, 03:12:30 pm
Quite looking forward to an enforced day off of doing absolutely nowt.

I said that for storm Arwen - 5 days without power, mobile phone signal or water at the beginning of December.

Was a bit more concerned about storm Corrie in January but we were only cut off for 4 days.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Banks on February 17, 2022, 03:30:06 pm
Not a chance.  In these predicted high winds whenever a red or amber warning hits, you'll look bonkers and desperate to the rest of the world waving your pole round.   

If you know your job well enough, you'll also know its pointless as the windows will look worse after you've cleaned them.   The water particles left on the windows will soak up the dust that's being blown around from off the ground in the air.  They will look sand-stormed.  Bonkers.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: SB Cleaning on February 17, 2022, 03:46:27 pm
Not a chance.  In these predicted high winds whenever a red or amber warning hits, you'll look bonkers and desperate to the rest of the world waving your pole round.   

If you know your job well enough, you'll also know its pointless as the windows will look worse after you've cleaned them.   The water particles left on the windows will soak up the dust that's being blown around from off the ground in the air.  They will look sand-stormed.  Bonkers.
Try telling that to some on here ;D
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 03:47:35 pm
If you clean windows tomorrow be careful you don’t get sectioned.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Ggh on February 17, 2022, 03:58:49 pm
Day in the pub innit.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Soupy on February 17, 2022, 04:09:47 pm
Day in the pub innit.

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Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 17, 2022, 04:21:07 pm
So storm Eunice is expected overnight and through tomorrow, winds of upto 100mph forecast, worse in the south of the country.

Which of you hero’s will be out working tomorrow?

I'll be leaving the country, Im flying out of Heathrow tomorrow.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 04:24:29 pm
So storm Eunice is expected overnight and through tomorrow, winds of upto 100mph forecast, worse in the south of the country.

Which of you hero’s will be out working tomorrow?

I'll be leaving the country, Im flying out of Heathrow tomorrow.
Will planes be taking off?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 17, 2022, 04:25:43 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: simon w on February 17, 2022, 04:31:36 pm
Yes we've got 11 internal stairwells to clean tomorrow removing all the mould spores from glass and frames and soft wash the outside cladding panels glass frames and sills sometime next week when the weather is more suitable
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 04:34:49 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.
I'm sending them out, but will be watching closely. Just checked with Cliff (if you know him) and he's working tomorrow. If he cries off he's gonna let me know.  £3k loss if we don't work.  :'(
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Ggh on February 17, 2022, 04:55:30 pm
So storm Eunice is expected overnight and through tomorrow, winds of upto 100mph forecast, worse in the south of the country.

Which of you hero’s will be out working tomorrow?

I'll be leaving the country, Im flying out of Heathrow tomorrow.

Concorde?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 17, 2022, 05:16:28 pm
I'll get back to you on that ;)
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: DJW on February 17, 2022, 05:27:41 pm
Should be a record day tomorrow.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 06:10:01 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.
I'm sending them out, but will be watching closely. Just checked with Cliff (if you know him) and he's working tomorrow. If he cries off he's gonna let me know.  £3k loss if we don't work.  :'(

🤣🤣 if anyone turned up at my house or place of work and it was up to me to employ the window cleaning side of things they’d be sacked for extraction the urine,I would be insulted.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 06:31:07 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.
I'm sending them out, but will be watching closely. Just checked with Cliff (if you know him) and he's working tomorrow. If he cries off he's gonna let me know.  £3k loss if we don't work.  :'(

🤣🤣 if anyone turned up at my house or place of work and it was up to me to employ the window cleaning side of things they’d be sacked for extraction the urine,I would be insulted.
You’reregularly insulted but you still come back.  ;D
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 06:36:09 pm
Working tomorrow I’ve heard it all now 🤣 I knew I’d be off Monday.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: SB Cleaning on February 17, 2022, 06:41:15 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.
I'm sending them out, but will be watching closely. Just checked with Cliff (if you know him) and he's working tomorrow. If he cries off he's gonna let me know.  £3k loss if we don't work.  :'(
3k loss is better than one of your blokes seriously injured, i think you need to have a word with yourself   :-\
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: SB Cleaning on February 17, 2022, 06:46:18 pm
Working tomorrow I’ve heard it all now 🤣 I knew I’d be off Monday.
until Monday?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Skinner on February 17, 2022, 07:49:21 pm
Tomorrow is definitely looking like a complete right off down south.
Kinda feel sorry for all the customers that we've cleaned in the last few days as there windows will probably look horrendous again by lunchtime tomorrow.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NBwcs on February 17, 2022, 07:54:05 pm
Quite looking forward to an enforced day off of doing absolutely nowt.

I said that for storm Arwen - 5 days without power, mobile phone signal or water at the beginning of December.

Was a bit more concerned about storm Corrie in January but we were only cut off for 4 days.

Good luck.

Where abouts are you situated  Soupy?, that doesn't sound any fun at all.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 07:58:54 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.
I'm sending them out, but will be watching closely. Just checked with Cliff (if you know him) and he's working tomorrow. If he cries off he's gonna let me know.  £3k loss if we don't work.  :'(
3k loss is better than one of your blokes seriously injured, i think you need to have a word with yourself   :-\
We’ll see what the weather actually brings. This morning the forecast was up to 40mph winds but that’sgone up to 60 this evening. They’ll go out and work if safe. If not, they won’t. But calling it for 8 vans isn’t done unless necessary and that won’tbe known until tomorrow. But thanks for your advice.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 08:10:08 pm
This is the real reason why we should all work in the rain and terrible weather conditions,I don’t honestly know 1 person that would want you cleaning their windows in heavy rain or wind and snow like we will get tomorrow.
I think people need to be a bit more honest with their views on cleaning windows in the above conditions because in my opinion it’s because they need to pay wages,forget the rain guarantee and they remain clean even after heavy rain rubbish that’s a sales pitch nothing more I’ve been cleaning windows long enough to know when i am  taking the wee wee with the weather.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: dazmond on February 17, 2022, 08:14:45 pm
I had no plans to work tomorrow anyway,storm or no storm....

Food shopping in the morning then gym session 🏋️‍♂️ in the afternoon!

Have a great weekend guys!
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: hotsteam on February 17, 2022, 08:33:46 pm
Any Directors of window cleaners that let their employees work in those conditions, are leaving themselves wide open to fines and possibly a jail term !

Would it be worth it ?  ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 08:35:40 pm
This is the real reason why we should all work in the rain and terrible weather conditions,I don’t honestly know 1 person that would want you cleaning their windows in heavy rain or wind and snow like we will get tomorrow.
I think people need to be a bit more honest with their views on cleaning windows in the above conditions because in my opinion it’s because they need to pay wages,forget the rain guarantee and they remain clean even after heavy rain rubbish that’s a sales pitch nothing more I’ve been cleaning windows long enough to know when i am  taking the wee wee with the weather.
That’s life. I paid £80 to have my Motorhome cleaned two weeks ago. Went away and it was filthy before I arrived at my destination. Wife paid £50 for a car valet. Drove along a farm track to pick up a Turkey that afternoon and it was covered in mud. We paid them to clean them.

Like most, we offer a guarantee. If they don’t fry clean we’ll come back.

The storm is a safety issue though, so that won’t be governed by second guessing what the customer thinks.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 17, 2022, 08:36:23 pm
Any Directors of window cleaners that let their employees work in those conditions, are leaving themselves wide open to fines and possibly a jail term !

Would it be worth it ?  ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll
Nah, a quick risk assessment.  ;)
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: dazmond on February 17, 2022, 08:36:38 pm
Any Directors of window cleaners that let their employees work in those conditions, are leaving themselves wide open to fines and possibly a jail term !

Would it be worth it ?  ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll

If I was planning to work tomorrow I'd be rescheduling for next week....
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Soupy on February 17, 2022, 08:46:00 pm
Quite looking forward to an enforced day off of doing absolutely nowt.

I said that for storm Arwen - 5 days without power, mobile phone signal or water at the beginning of December.

Was a bit more concerned about storm Corrie in January but we were only cut off for 4 days.

Good luck.

Where abouts are you situated  Soupy?, that doesn't sound any fun at all.

Aberdeenshire.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Rob.Hall on February 17, 2022, 09:38:22 pm
Happy Hols Slacky  8)
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 09:46:17 pm
Yeah I take it you took you’re vehicle to be cleaned or did they turn up at your house and clean it.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 09:47:40 pm
I’d be embarrassed to be seen out looking like I was on my way to work tomorrow,the equivalent of working Christmas morning lol.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 17, 2022, 10:11:40 pm
Happy Hols Slacky  8)

Cheers Rob!
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Ggh on February 17, 2022, 10:12:42 pm
Depends where you are, surely?
Too blowy in the Severn Estuary but anywhere else, crack on.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Bungle on February 17, 2022, 10:49:48 pm
This is the real reason why we should all work in the rain and terrible weather conditions,I don’t honestly know 1 person that would want you cleaning their windows in heavy rain or wind and snow like we will get tomorrow.
I think people need to be a bit more honest with their views on cleaning windows in the above conditions because in my opinion it’s because they need to pay wages,forget the rain guarantee and they remain clean even after heavy rain rubbish that’s a sales pitch nothing more I’ve been cleaning windows long enough to know when i am  taking the wee wee with the weather.
That’s life. I paid £80 to have my Motorhome cleaned two weeks ago. Went away and it was filthy before I arrived at my destination. Wife paid £50 for a car valet. Drove along a farm track to pick up a Turkey that afternoon and it was covered in mud. We paid them to clean them.

Like most, we offer a guarantee. If they don’t fry clean we’ll come back.

The storm is a safety issue though, so that won’t be governed by second guessing what the customer thinks.

Should have told the turkey to get a taxi 👍
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Smudger on February 17, 2022, 11:21:55 pm
personally speaking I wouldn't let the guys go out in anything over 40 mph - not a safety issue but defo a quality issue - at 60+ MPH I wouldn't entertain it on H&S

a supposed loss of 3k is nothing in terms of caring for people - if one gets killed of badly injured by a falling tree on route to work how would you feel?

TBH - if you can not afford them to not work for a single day I think you had better revisit your business model

just sayin

Darran
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Bungle on February 17, 2022, 11:50:10 pm
I knew a bloke who owned a wood yard. He was killed on the way to work. A falling tree fell on his car.  :'(
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 01:13:10 am
Yeah I take it you took you’re vehicle to be cleaned or did they turn up at your house and clean it.
Came to my house. The point is it won’t stay clean. Nothing does. If it did we wouldn’t need cleaners.

If it’s safe, we’ll work. If it isn’t, we won’t. We’ll make that decision when we see what it’s like here.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 01:26:48 am
personally speaking I wouldn't let the guys go out in anything over 40 mph - not a safety issue but defo a quality issue - at 60+ MPH I wouldn't entertain it on H&S

a supposed loss of 3k is nothing in terms of caring for people - if one gets killed of badly injured by a falling tree on route to work how would you feel?

TBH - if you can not afford them to not work for a single day I think you had better revisit your business model

just sayin

Darran
On business models,I  think I remember correctly you don’t work in the rain?

If it’s safe, we will work. My suspicion is it won’t be, but I will decide when it’s upon us. The forecast has worsened over the day with forecasted winds up from 40-60. I remember the ironic memes on Facebook of a deckchair blown over on predicted storms so my recent experience is they haven’t been as fierce as forecast. I’d prefer to just wait and see. That seems the sensible thing to do.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Smudger on February 18, 2022, 07:09:13 am
Nothing wrong with waiting and seeing and in respect of forecasts I am firmly in the camp that it's usually over egged - however early indications are ( right over here in Norfolk ) that it's very windy already.

No we don't work in rain - that's anything more than a drizzle - generally customers don't like it, and I don't like it - if effects about 2 days a year

What I will say is your posts come across that it's more important to get the money than worry about staff maybe that's just something to bear in mind

Darran
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 07:29:48 am
Nothing wrong with waiting and seeing and in respect of forecasts I am firmly in the camp that it's usually over egged - however early indications are ( right over here in Norfolk ) that it's very windy already.

No we don't work in rain - that's anything more than a drizzle - generally customers don't like it, and I don't like it - if effects about 2 days a year

What I will say is your posts come across that it's more important to get the money than worry about staff maybe that's just something to bear in mind

Darran
It's just the shorthand of a one fingered typist.

I've just walked the dogs. I live on the exposed edge of Newbury. At the moment I'd have no hesitation working. We'll monitor it and call it off if it worsens, but at present, very mild.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Rob.Hall on February 18, 2022, 07:48:41 am
Gone from amber to red in south east.
11am till 15:00  from Portsmouth over.
Looks like into Norfolk as well.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: DJW on February 18, 2022, 08:11:05 am
Picking up in the Southwest.
Crack On.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: james peters on February 18, 2022, 08:29:35 am
Its starting to get a bit windy here,  I am in the red zone so expect it to get a lot worse.
schools closed , some shops closed , and no bin collection.
I would be looked upon as a right tit if I went to work.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 08:35:38 am
Gone from amber to red in south east.
11am till 15:00  from Portsmouth over.
Looks like into Norfolk as well.
The Mrs said that, but still amber on the Met Office for Newbury.  Chaps are out. It looks like it gets worse at about 10. We'll just watch and see. If it does, we'll call them in. At the moment it's perfectly workable and I've checked with two other locals this morning & both working.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcph3vm8s#?date=2022-02-18
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: dazmond on February 18, 2022, 08:36:02 am
Nice and sunny and calm here at 8am....830am and the wind is getting up and it's gone very dark. ;D

Still going food shopping at tescos this morning and gym this afternoon...sod staying in all day.ill also be driving to girlfriends after my tea.....

Any window cleaners who are thinking of working in this need a check up from the neck up or are desperate for money IMO.....

Enjoy the weekend chaps...
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: dazmond on February 18, 2022, 08:39:50 am
Gone from amber to red in south east.
11am till 15:00  from Portsmouth over.
Looks like into Norfolk as well.
The Mrs said that, but still amber on the Met Office for Newbury.  Chaps are out. It looks like it gets worse at about 10. We'll just watch and see. If it does, we'll call them in. At the moment it's perfectly workable and I've checked with two other locals this morning & both working.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcph3vm8s#?date=2022-02-18

The difference here in 40 mins is like night and day!
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 08:48:00 am
Gone from amber to red in south east.
11am till 15:00  from Portsmouth over.
Looks like into Norfolk as well.
The Mrs said that, but still amber on the Met Office for Newbury.  Chaps are out. It looks like it gets worse at about 10. We'll just watch and see. If it does, we'll call them in. At the moment it's perfectly workable and I've checked with two other locals this morning & both working.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcph3vm8s#?date=2022-02-18

The difference here in 40 mins is like night and day!
I'm monitoring it. We'll stop if it gets heavy, but at the moment it's nothing I wouldn't work in. The guys have all been told to carry on, but to update the office if it starts to feel unsafe and we'll roll the work over to next week.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: DJW on February 18, 2022, 09:05:12 am
Mental!
I’m about 30 miles from Newbury. I wouldn’t send a dog out in this.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 18, 2022, 09:20:44 am
Really picking up here on the North western side of Bristol. I think even the most well trained customers will be concerned about the welfare of their window cleaners today.

Not a good look doing outside work in this wind. I'd never send a worker out with met office warning advice to stay at home.

Utterly irresponsible even if it isn't as bad as forecast.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 09:22:10 am
Mental!
I’m about 30 miles from Newbury. I wouldn’t send a dog out in this.
I walked my two dogs in it at 7am this morning. It was fine. I think we just need to man up.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: ian1965 on February 18, 2022, 09:23:33 am
I day catching up on accounts for me
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 09:25:08 am
Really picking up here on the North western side of Bristol. I think even the most well trained customers will be concerned about the welfare of their window cleaners today.

Not a good look doing outside work in this wind. I'd never send a worker out with met office warning advice to stay at home.

Utterly irresponsible even if it isn't as bad as forecast.
I think people always look to reinforce their opinion. We're amber here btw according to the Met Office. Everyone has been told to stop if conditions are unsafe. If they say stop, we stop. I can hear the wind crossing the chimney, but otherwise it's perfectly fine. AT THE MOMENT.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 09:29:28 am
Taken a few minutes ago from my kitchen window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRfLJi-UBeA
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Jay Le Huray on February 18, 2022, 10:04:14 am
Picking up a bit here in Southampton, so it's a day off for me
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 18, 2022, 10:13:20 am
Getting dodgy out here now.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Richard iSparkle on February 18, 2022, 10:29:46 am
Taken a few minutes ago from my kitchen window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRfLJi-UBeA

same here.

we're working currently and plan to work the full day as normal
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 10:32:16 am
It's picked up now so we've called the rest of the day off.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 18, 2022, 10:34:07 am
I think thats probably the right decision.

Trad window cleaner just went past here. There's stupid. And there's desperate. There's also stupid and desperate.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NBwcs on February 18, 2022, 10:39:18 am
Really picking up here on the North western side of Bristol. I think even the most well trained customers will be concerned about the welfare of their window cleaners today.

Not a good look doing outside work in this wind. I'd never send a worker out with met office warning advice to stay at home.

Utterly irresponsible even if it isn't as bad as forecast.
I think people always look to reinforce their opinion. We're amber here btw according to the Met Office. Everyone has been told to stop if conditions are unsafe. If they say stop, we stop. I can hear the wind crossing the chimney, but otherwise it's perfectly fine. AT THE MOMENT.

I get your frustration, it was sunny and still here about half an hour ago, perfectly workable but nevertheless, yours and my customer base have all heard the warnings about "Eunice" expected to be the worst storm for 30 years. You cant unhear that, its ingrained now in peoples mind and from a pr stance you wont be doing your business any favours  at all. I had to laugh this morning at bbc breakfast reporter stationed near the seafront in Ilfacombe. He described the sea as a "bubbling couldron" and the camera panned over to a pretty calm seafront, ive seen bigger waves at centre parcs , but all the same ,we're all expecteing  the worse even if it turns out it has  been egged up a bit.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NBwcs on February 18, 2022, 10:40:18 am
It's picked up now so we've called the rest of the day off.
wise decision.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Richard iSparkle on February 18, 2022, 10:46:36 am
it's really easy to overthink things.

if its fine to work, its fine to work. if its not stop.

the weather is different in different parts of the country.

we've done 6 hrs worth of work so far this morning.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 10:54:12 am
it's really easy to overthink things.

if its fine to work, its fine to work. if its not stop.

the weather is different in different parts of the country.

we've done 6 hrs worth of work so far this morning.
Agreed. We probably got 30-40% of the work done before quitting. It was comfortable too. But it's picked up now and it seems sensible to stop.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Splash & dash on February 18, 2022, 11:12:33 am
it's really easy to overthink things.

if its fine to work, its fine to work. if its not stop.

the weather is different in different parts of the country.

we've done 6 hrs worth of work so far this morning.
Agreed. We probably got 30-40% of the work done before quitting. It was comfortable too. But it's picked up now and it seems sensible to stop.



Problem is the work you have done will probably look worse than it was before you started in a couple of hours and customers won’t be happy paying for the clean , to me when the forecast is for the  worst weather conditions in  years  it’s common sense to take a couple of days off , the bad PR from all this could do your business a lot of harm . It just makes you look that you don’t  care  about staff safety of the finished results on the customers properties , you just are after their money and that’s it , if it was my place that you turned up at in this type of weather I would tell you ware to go and would cancel the service and not  be paying the bill .
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: EandM on February 18, 2022, 11:14:34 am
Not as bad in West Dorset as they said it would be.

I've seen worse, even fairly recently - it's just longer sustained today.

1987 however...
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Richard iSparkle on February 18, 2022, 11:42:46 am
it's really easy to overthink things.

if its fine to work, its fine to work. if its not stop.

the weather is different in different parts of the country.

we've done 6 hrs worth of work so far this morning.
Agreed. We probably got 30-40% of the work done before quitting. It was comfortable too. But it's picked up now and it seems sensible to stop.



Problem is the work you have done will probably look worse than it was before you started in a couple of hours and customers won’t be happy paying for the clean , to me when the forecast is for the  worst weather conditions in  years  it’s common sense to take a couple of days off , the bad PR from all this could do your business a lot of harm . It just makes you look that you don’t  care  about staff safety of the finished results on the customers properties , you just are after their money and that’s it , if it was my place that you turned up at in this type of weather I would tell you ware to go and would cancel the service and not  be paying the bill .

i think this is overthinking.

we work all weathers and always have.  we have very rarely got a kickback from it.

none of the weather forecast for our area has happened yet.  it may not happen at all

the binmen have been and done there job..



Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Splash & dash on February 18, 2022, 11:58:29 am
it's really easy to overthink things.

if its fine to work, its fine to work. if its not stop.

the weather is different in different parts of the country.

we've done 6 hrs worth of work so far this morning.
Agreed. We probably got 30-40% of the work done before quitting. It was comfortable too. But it's picked up now and it seems sensible to stop.



Problem is the work you have done will probably look worse than it was before you started in a couple of hours and customers won’t be happy paying for the clean , to me when the forecast is for the  worst weather conditions in  years  it’s common sense to take a couple of days off , the bad PR from all this could do your business a lot of harm . It just makes you look that you don’t  care  about staff safety of the finished results on the customers properties , you just are after their money and that’s it , if it was my place that you turned up at in this type of weather I would tell you ware to go and would cancel the service and not  be paying the bill .

i think this is overthinking.

we work all weathers and always have.  we have very rarely got a kickback from it.

none of the weather forecast for our area has happened yet.  it may not happen at all

the binmen have been and done there job..



We work in all weathers within reason as well but this weather isn’t reasonable to work in or it certainly isn’t down hear . All council services have been cancelled as well including all out patient appointments in all the hospitals , Ime guessing conditions will varie   around the country , but I think working in the middle of a storm that’s the worst for  years and highly publicised makes you look irresponsible and desperate , but if conditions are fine ware you are then obviously carry on .
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 12:14:13 pm
it's really easy to overthink things.

if its fine to work, its fine to work. if its not stop.

the weather is different in different parts of the country.

we've done 6 hrs worth of work so far this morning.
Agreed. We probably got 30-40% of the work done before quitting. It was comfortable too. But it's picked up now and it seems sensible to stop.



Problem is the work you have done will probably look worse than it was before you started in a couple of hours and customers won’t be happy paying for the clean , to me when the forecast is for the  worst weather conditions in  years  it’s common sense to take a couple of days off , the bad PR from all this could do your business a lot of harm . It just makes you look that you don’t  care  about staff safety of the finished results on the customers properties , you just are after their money and that’s it , if it was my place that you turned up at in this type of weather I would tell you ware to go and would cancel the service and not  be paying the bill .

i think this is overthinking.

we work all weathers and always have.  we have very rarely got a kickback from it.

none of the weather forecast for our area has happened yet.  it may not happen at all

the binmen have been and done there job..



We work in all weathers within reason as well but this weather isn’t reasonable to work in or it certainly isn’t down hear . All council services have been cancelled as well including all out patient appointments in all the hospitals , Ime guessing conditions will varie   around the country , but I think working in the middle of a storm that’s the worst for  years and highly publicised makes you look irresponsible and desperate , but if conditions are fine ware you are then obviously carry on .
Who's working ion the middle of a storm?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 18, 2022, 12:51:01 pm
Desperate for money that’s what it is although you’ll be told we provide a regular service no matter what the weather,real reason is staff and bills to pay if you have to stress about getting
Money in with weather like this or when it’s heavy rain I think people need to either get better paying work so a couple of days down time a month doesn’t effect them.
Look at it how you like 99% of customers think “eh”
when you turn up in high winds or pouring rain.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Soupy on February 18, 2022, 12:54:13 pm
No wind up here but about 6 inches of snow in two hours. Turns out electric vans are shit in the snow.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 18, 2022, 12:58:26 pm
Tbh I think that is worse because if it’s not followed by rain it’ll stick around up there as the weather next week is cold and bright.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Soupy on February 18, 2022, 01:02:21 pm
Tbh I think that is worse because if it’s not followed by rain it’ll stick around up there as the weather next week is cold and bright.

Nah, it'll be gone by Monday.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1645189339_Screenshot_20220218-130148.jpg)
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: CleanClear on February 18, 2022, 01:02:56 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.

Situation at Heathrow [live].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQh1FrbOc0
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 18, 2022, 01:14:40 pm
Dunno. Have to see. Im dubious to be honest, but there's nothing can be done about it is there. Might have a wait over in Heathrow....

Flight is 17:00 so past the worse but that probably means nothing.

Thanks. Latest Ive heard is BA have cancelled 100 European flights but no long haul yet.

Situation at Heathrow [live].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQh1FrbOc0
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: zesty on February 18, 2022, 01:17:49 pm
Was watching the live Heathrow earlier, a380 got down, and some smaller planes, several doing go arounds, wouldn’t wanna be flying into Heathrow today  :o
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Jay Le Huray on February 18, 2022, 02:21:39 pm
I just popped out to the shop in my car, on returning my neighbours brand new car windscreen has a massive hole in it and several dents on the bonnet due to 2 ridge tiles coming off his roof, I then went into our back garden and just managed to save our gazebo from taking off by tying it down, had I got home 5 mins later I would have lost it
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
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Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: deeege on February 18, 2022, 02:48:16 pm
It’s pretty nasty here in the north west now. Sounds like the roof is going to come off the house, plenty of local trees gone down.

Been into town this morning and seen two of the local multi van window cleaners battling with wind/rain/sleet. It would have made a great discussion if I’d have posted a video to one of the local FB groups  ;D I can’t think of any other explanation than they must be very desperate tbh.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: windowswashed on February 18, 2022, 04:35:26 pm
Big trees down where I live, quite a few roads closed,  chased my dustbin up the street, lucky my roof tiles stayed on in this storm. Waste of time cleaning windows before the storm today.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Rob.Hall on February 18, 2022, 05:58:09 pm
Our windows are a mess.
Dirty Spots all over them.
Glad I did not go out cleaning today.
Custys would have not been impressed.
Not had much rain either.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 06:12:14 pm
Our windows are a mess.
Dirty Spots all over them.
Glad I did not go out cleaning today.
Custys would have not been impressed.
Not had much rain either.
My manager had an email earlier from a house cleaned on Wednesday claiming the windows were left a mess. Photos were dated 4:05 this afternoon. The point is, there’sa good chance those you’vecleaned in the last few days will complain that you shouldn’t have cleaned them because there was a storm coming.

The customer was told to do one and has been deleted.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 18, 2022, 06:21:54 pm
When I was coming up to Heathrow today the car I was in had filthy windows. The driver reckoned it was from just this mornings rain. I couldn’t help but think the customers this last week won’t be impressed.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Banks on February 18, 2022, 07:04:23 pm
Our windows were perfect this morning.  This afternoon they look like the were left in the desert during a storm,. 
If we had been working I would be really worried over the weekend.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 18, 2022, 07:10:32 pm
If I’d had a window cleaner come today I would have done 1 of 2 things,sacked him on the spot for taking the wee wee or if I happened to be out and got a message saying he’d been rufused to pay and still get rid of him.
You turn up on a day like today it speaks volumes about someone.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Slacky on February 18, 2022, 07:29:23 pm
Our windows are a mess.
Dirty Spots all over them.
Glad I did not go out cleaning today.
Custys would have not been impressed.
Not had much rain either.
My manager had an email earlier from a house cleaned on Wednesday claiming the windows were left a mess. Photos were dated 4:05 this afternoon. The point is, there’sa good chance those you’vecleaned in the last few days will complain that you shouldn’t have cleaned them because there was a storm coming.

The customer was told to do one and has been deleted.

I had a complaint from a customer yesterday who’s windows were inadvertently left dirty after a pressure washing and soft washing job I finished 2 weeks ago.

I went round straight away cleaned the offending panes and left her a bottle of glass cleaner with some micro-fibre cloths as a gesture of goodwill.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Skinner on February 18, 2022, 08:09:39 pm
My Wellie bin is booked in for a speed awareness course next Tuesday  🤣🤣
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Richard iSparkle on February 18, 2022, 08:17:38 pm
All been alright here except for about an hour or two midday. Got all our work finished ready for next week. Glad we weren’t hit badly like some places
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 18, 2022, 08:47:19 pm
Our windows were perfect this morning.  This afternoon they look like the were left in the desert during a storm,. 
If we had been working I would be really worried over the weekend.
See above. We had a complaint about one we cleaned on Wednesday. If you cleaned yesterday do they have a right to complain after the storm today? We told the one from Wednesday to do one, but we’d return to any complaints from today as I’d say it was reasonable to expect them to dry clean.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: james peters on February 18, 2022, 08:48:30 pm
sometimes its best to just batten down the hatches , put your feet up ( because you can if you are doing ok )
just enjoy and relish the down time .
plenty more weeks in the year to make money
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 18, 2022, 10:17:26 pm
They don’t have a right to complain in my book no the thing is about today is the world literally and his wife knew what was coming,Thursday was a lovely day and I knew what was coming today so I just did some inside contract work yesterday because I knew people would think I was taking the pee.
I know you’ve got to work when you can but when it’s all over the news it could looked upon as pointless cleaning them 1-2 days before due to the press coverage,I was wincing Wednesday whilst working.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: deeege on February 18, 2022, 10:18:08 pm
Just checked my own windows and they are complete mess. Then I’ve just remembered that they haven't been cleaned since October so that’s understandable.  ;D
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 08:58:19 am
They don’t have a right to complain in my book no the thing is about today is the world literally and his wife knew what was coming,Thursday was a lovely day and I knew what was coming today so I just did some inside contract work yesterday because I knew people would think I was taking the pee.
I know you’ve got to work when you can but when it’s all over the news it could looked upon as pointless cleaning them 1-2 days before due to the press coverage,I was wincing Wednesday whilst working.
Most people wouldn’t have a clue a storm would make your windows dirty. You overthink things. Any complaints, we just go back. In the meantime we did 30-40% of our work and maybe have to go back to one or two. Not bothered. It’s a business not a hobby. The only issue was safety and as soon as the wind got up, we stopped.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: DJW on February 19, 2022, 10:26:40 am
I wonder where most people think the dirt comes from?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: SB Cleaning on February 19, 2022, 10:35:21 am
I wonder where most people think the dirt comes from?
I'm sure 8 weekly has the answer  :D
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 10:42:57 am
I wonder where most people think the dirt comes from?
I doubt most people think about it.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Splash & dash on February 19, 2022, 10:52:57 am
I wonder where most people think the dirt comes from?
I doubt most people think about it.



Lol most people are fully aware that windy weather will make their windows dirty they aren’t Neanderthal
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 19, 2022, 10:53:14 am
My Wellie bin is booked in for a speed awareness course next Tuesday  🤣🤣

Did you give it the boot?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: DJW on February 19, 2022, 10:56:18 am
Anyway, can’t stop got to crack on, perfect conditions today.(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1645268170_97CB6690-03AC-4274-92D3-102951EE5F56.jpeg)
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 19, 2022, 11:00:12 am
I wonder where most people think the dirt comes from?
I doubt most people think about it.



Lol most people are fully aware that windy weather will make their windows dirty they aren’t Neanderthal
The day before Eunice I had two of my customers that day smile and say jocularly "trust you to turn up the day before the storm tomorrow".

They smiled, but they were making a point unsaid - "I really would rather you didn't but I understand". I grinned and said to both of them that I view it as removing 8 weeks worth of dirt each time.

They knew. And I certainly would not have cleaned their windows on the day of Eunice.





Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: KS Cleaning on February 19, 2022, 11:34:34 am
When you’re out there actually cleaning the windows you tend to get more of a handle on the customers thoughts on cleaning windows in inclement weather.
If anyone turned up to clean my windows on the day of a storm they would be sent packing.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 19, 2022, 11:34:56 am
Like a bricklayer turning up when it’s -3 of you go then thanks I’ve got enough cracks in the brickwork already,that wasn’t general rain we get regularly therefore anyone with any sense wouldn’t work unless they were desperate I wonder what the staff thought 😂
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 19, 2022, 11:37:54 am
To work yesterday you would have had to and even then very very lucky to not get sacked for the future,no way I wouldn’t have taken money off customers they would have stayed clean for minutes even with no rain.
I would have told me a lot about my window cleaner.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: SB Cleaning on February 19, 2022, 12:24:15 pm
More strong winds coming Monday.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 12:52:04 pm
When you’re out there actually cleaning the windows you tend to get more of a handle on the customers thoughts on cleaning windows in inclement weather.
If anyone turned up to clean my windows on the day of a storm they would be sent packing.
We weren't "sent packing" from any jobs yesterday. I agree with you on one thing though, when you're the owner/cleaner and overthink things, you tend to be more afraid to put prices up, price enough for add ons, clean in the rain and so on. Being unencumbered by a personal relationship, you are freed from all that and just see it as a business.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 12:52:38 pm
More strong winds coming Monday.
Another day off for some then.  ;)
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 19, 2022, 01:06:47 pm
You don’t overthink things at all you focus on other things rather than just needing to get the money in,nothing to do with overthinking anything it’s called perspective.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Smudger on February 19, 2022, 01:12:20 pm
Its not overthinking ( well by some anyway ) its balancing work/quality and safety

I agree that not being on the glass detaches you from the customers - sometimes thats good, sometimes not - as quality is my top priority we wouldn't clean in 40+ MPH winds

Having said that if you wish too, who am I to say thats wrong ....

I know some on here are very desperate  to go out regardless of weather, circumstances, risks to employees health etc..

Darran
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 01:17:01 pm
Its not overthinking ( well by some anyway ) its balancing work/quality and safety

I agree that not being on the glass detaches you from the customers - sometimes thats good, sometimes not - as quality is my top priority we wouldn't clean in 40+ MPH winds

Having said that if you wish too, who am I to say thats wrong ....

I know some on here are very desperate  to go out regardless of weather, circumstances, risks to employees health etc..

Darran
Passive aggressive.

It's a business. You've made the odd decision not to work in the rain so that's going to colour your views on anything. I postedthe video of the conditions my guys were working in yesterday & as soon as it turned we stopped. You're just busy defending your own not working in the rain decision and that's fine, but it's a bit much to imply I put my staff at risk.

Anyway, just to show you that not everyone feels as you do. Just received:

Hi Dan

Our window clean got cancelled yesterday because of the storm - do you know when you might be able to re-arrange please?

We are having some work done on our windows next Friday (Feb 25) so it would be great if it were possible to have them cleaned before that.

Best wishes

Louise
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 19, 2022, 02:21:54 pm
Of course she is not complaining. Louise's windows weren't cleaned because of the storm.

 ::)roll
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Smudger on February 19, 2022, 02:41:02 pm
Passive aggressive ? oh get off your righteous horse

The majority of feeling on here is that the weather conditions were too bad to clean - you did not - thats your call - my point was that when your getting a red weather warning and all you can do is say im sending them out - they can sit in a van - is IMO possibly not the best view to have - and bleat about 3k loss ( like thats the most important thing - and TBH wasn't even worth adding that to a post )

I also said that many weather warnings are over egged - and I think overall for Norfolk it was - we had strong winds and a few really wild gusts - too bad to get a quality window clean done, but dangerous not really - but I cant vouch for other parts of the country

Darran
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 02:46:30 pm
Of course she is not complaining. Louise's windows weren't cleaned because of the storm.

 ::)roll
I read into that that she's now worried they won't get done. 
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 19, 2022, 02:47:19 pm
Passive aggressive ? o

Darran


Yes.
I know some on here are very desperate  to go out regardless of weather, circumstances, risks to employees health etc..
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Smudger on February 19, 2022, 02:48:18 pm
Of course she is not complaining. Louise's windows weren't cleaned because of the storm.

 ::)roll
I read into that that she's now worried they won't get done.

you would the rest of the real world would say she's grateful they wernt done the day of the storm..
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Smudger on February 19, 2022, 02:54:05 pm
Passive aggressive ? o

Darran


Yes.
I know some on here are very desperate  to go out regardless of weather, circumstances, risks to employees health etc..

 ::)roll - did I say that about you or even apply to you - NO - I was talking to you so in a conversation when you say "some" I think you can take it that means other people

Darran
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 19, 2022, 03:05:22 pm
Of course she is not complaining. Louise's windows weren't cleaned because of the storm.

 ::)roll
I read into that that she's now worried they won't get done.

She may well be worried - not about them not being done due to the storm  but about getting them done before the "work" is done on the windows.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Bungle on February 19, 2022, 03:44:37 pm
Its not overthinking ( well by some anyway ) its balancing work/quality and safety

I agree that not being on the glass detaches you from the customers - sometimes thats good, sometimes not - as quality is my top priority we wouldn't clean in 40+ MPH winds

Having said that if you wish too, who am I to say thats wrong ....

I know some on here are very desperate  to go out regardless of weather, circumstances, risks to employees health etc..

Darran
Passive aggressive.

It's a business. You've made the odd decision not to work in the rain so that's going to colour your views on anything. I postedthe video of the conditions my guys were working in yesterday & as soon as it turned we stopped. You're just busy defending your own not working in the rain decision and that's fine, but it's a bit much to imply I put my staff at risk.

Anyway, just to show you that not everyone feels as you do. Just received:

Hi Dan

Our window clean got cancelled yesterday because of the storm - do you know when you might be able to re-arrange please?

We are having some work done on our windows next Friday (Feb 25) so it would be great if it were possible to have them cleaned before that.

Best wishes

Louise

Sounds like a nice customer, but for the life of me why does she want her windows cleaned before she has work done on them? Surely she'd prefer to wait until the work is finished?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 19, 2022, 03:55:03 pm
If they are wooden and being painted she may want them washed clean beforehand?
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: NWH on February 19, 2022, 05:58:08 pm
You always will get the odd customer that says I don’t care about the weather even yesterday,they are currently in their straight jackets 🧥 and have just taken their medication either that or they are very lonely and still wanted to see someone whatever the conditions.
You could argue this all day and night 99.9% of people would see you as a fool if you were out working yesterday,and if they were working for someone I can only guess what they would have said about them.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: Mike Burd on February 20, 2022, 03:50:22 pm
You always will get the odd customer that says I don’t care about the weather even yesterday,they are currently in their straight jackets 🧥 and have just taken their medication either that or they are very lonely and still wanted to see someone whatever the conditions.
You could argue this all day and night 99.9% of people would see you as a fool if you were out working yesterday,and if they were working for someone I can only guess what they would have said about them.
I know you think you’re in the majority, but EVERY wc I know locally works in the rain. No exceptions. All self employed except me.
Title: Re: Storm Eunice
Post by: SB Cleaning on February 20, 2022, 04:04:10 pm
You always will get the odd customer that says I don’t care about the weather even yesterday,they are currently in their straight jackets 🧥 and have just taken their medication either that or they are very lonely and still wanted to see someone whatever the conditions.
You could argue this all day and night 99.9% of people would see you as a fool if you were out working yesterday,and if they were working for someone I can only guess what they would have said about them.
I know you think you’re in the majority, but EVERY wc I know locally works in the rain. No exceptions. All self employed except me.
I work in the rain too,  but when the winds blowing rain sideways its time to leave it.