Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Klean07 on February 15, 2022, 11:17:31 am
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I've seen this on a few local wc vans so wondered if anyone on here offers it and if so what is your experience?
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I can often guarantee it will rain within 48 hours of me cleaning customer windows.
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When i switched from trad to wfp, i would tell the customer that the windiws would virtually stay clean regardless if it rains the day they are cleaned.
For new customers, I had a welcome pack and within that was an a5 leaflet which in part said about working in the rain and referred them to my website for further info if they so wished.
(It also mentioned another controversy, locked gates being open via a text night before and if not, 75% will be charged even if just front windows get cleaned 😏)
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When I switched I included a 24 hour reclean (of offending windows).
Never got called back.
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I do, but nobody takes any notice of it. Hardly ever been called back.
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Rain water is not what makes windows dirt, if anything it helps clean them. TDS reading of our rain water in the UK is usually under 10PPM. Its air,road and tree pollutants that make windows dirty.
So you could educate your customers on this. Ive no idea why customers say don't clean my windows when its raining as it makes no sense.
Dazzler
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Exactly - more issues from high winds than rain
Darran
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Windows will take a rain water drenching a couple of times after that they start to leave dirt on them from my experience,I’d like to see people offer a rain guarantee on the coast you can clean them in the morning and they have a covering of salt in the evening.
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So you get salty rain where you are then? - we get fresh water rain in Norfolk
Darran
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If it’s windy and raining there is more chance of the rain picking up dust as it goes through the atmosphere. I’ve never known my west facing front windows to be clean after such conditions.
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If it’s windy and raining there is more chance of the rain picking up dust as it goes through the atmosphere. I’ve never known my west facing front windows to be clean after such conditions.
I said I have never been called back but now I remember one. I have a few properties within a few hundred yards of the Severn Estuary when it is at high tide. This house had some west facing windows and there were high winds the night after I had cleaned.
The windows were covered in salt. But only on the side facing the channel. The prevailing weather came up the channel from the west.
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So you get salty rain where you are then? - we get fresh water rain in Norfolk
Darran
If you get wind and rain blowing off the sea you do get salt deposits on the windows, snow storms are even worse as the snow must hold more salt. I used to do an area, big detached houses, right on the Firth of Forth, if the wind came in the wrong direction the windows were so bad you could barely see through them…..I no longer do that area😆
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No neither have I tbh it has to be heavy rain with next to no wind for them to remain clean,at the end of the day the majority of people don’t want their windows cleaned in terrible inclement weather conditions and if you plan and have the right work you shouldn’t need to be cleaning in it.
The people that promote this are people that need to get the money in from having staff and overheads,I could do a couple of days of planned work if I knew the weather was awful for the following week and still keep the wolf from the door,anyone doing this job for long enough should be able to do the same as should you clean windows in stair rod rain not imo,should you lay bricks below 3-4 degrees no but people do it why because they need to earn.
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I reckon it would be a very low percentage of customers that would want you turning up in bad weather,we’ve all got places we can go and get away with cleaning certain jobs but not on a regular basis regardless of where you live in the country.
I bet Tradman is struggling this week up near Aberdeen lol terrible weather up there last-this and next week.
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So you get salty rain where you are then? - we get fresh water rain in Norfolk
Darran
If you get wind and rain blowing off the sea you do get salt deposits on the windows, snow storms are even worse as the snow must hold more salt. I used to do an area, big detached houses, right on the Firth of Forth, if the wind came in the wrong direction the windows were so bad you could barely see through them…..I no longer do that area😆
But that is not rain it’s the wind whipping up water off the sea - small point and maybe splitting hairs but it’s different from just rain
Darran
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We are predicted 45 + mph winds the next 2 days - no window so I for us
Darran
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I've seen this on a few local wc vans so wondered if anyone on here offers it and if so what is your experience?
no!
we clean whatever the weather and say if there's a quality problem let us know and we'll pop back.
we dont go back for locked gates and we charge full price even if we only clean front
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What do you do if its calm and dry during daylight hours and a storm is forecast overnight that night?(like the present forecast?)
Surely you don't take the day off?I just crack on as usual
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Sun’s out today! Car windscreen is covered in filthy rain spots from last night’s 50mph storm.
I’m taking the day off! Can’t see much point in taking the pee when tomorrow’s storm is forecast at 80mph and everyone knows it’s coming.
I’m not that desperate I can’t take time off when I want.
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Sun’s out today! Car windscreen is covered in filthy rain spots from last night’s 50mph storm.
I’m taking the day off! Can’t see much point in taking the pee when tomorrow’s storm is forecast at 80mph and everyone knows it’s coming.
I’m not that desperate I can’t take time off when I want.
I'm doing the same :)
Plenty of dirty windows to clean next week and the weather's looking better.
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I read above I’m taking the day off tomorrow 🤣🤣🤣 if you went cleaning windows tomorrow you’d be not only stupid you would also lose as many jobs that you attempt to clean.
Weather next week for the South is lovely with low temperatures perfect working weather.
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Rain water is not what makes windows dirt, if anything it helps clean them. TDS reading of our rain water in the UK is usually under 10PPM. Its air,road and tree pollutants that make windows dirty.
So you could educate your customers on this. Ive no idea why customers say don't clean my windows when its raining as it makes no sense.
Dazzler
The trouble is, your water is under your total control, rainwater no matter how low its tds is,isnt. We may get away with seeing no ill effects from the rain the majority of the time but its down to luck. If the rain comes from the wrong direction, it can hit the facias above the windows bringing down crap with it, worse still, it brings down the tiny particles off certain types of roof tiles which leaves black bits on the sills /bottom of the windows, and if it turns into a heavier downpour which all rain has the potential to do it bounces off the ground and messes up french doors etc. Add into that the "dirty rain" factor where it leaves dust spots after a downpour on your car which we've all seen, yes its in the atmosphere but its the rain that brings it down. The perception of rain = dirty windows is way out of proportion, but it is nevertheless based on an element of truth.
Personally i work in one of the driest parts of the country and the need for a "rain guarantee" isnt that great and would frankly go down like a lead balloon. If i worked on the west side of the country id probably look at doing something along these lines as percentage wise the financial benefits would outweigh the negatives. But managing customers perceptions ,, :), good luck with that.
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Clean the windows on you’re house and see what the results are like I’ve found you get 2 goes when rain soaks over them maybe only one if it’s accompanied with wind.
It’s not the rain water it’s what’s in with it ie if it’s windy as well a day like today someone paying you may as well Chuck what there giving you out the window for cleaning em,complete waste of time.
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I offer a 48 day rain guarantee.
If it rains or a storm with a crap name makes a mess of their windows I guarantee I'll be there within 48 days to clean the mess off.
Or is it 48 months? I'll have to check my terms and conditions.
Why the crap storm names though? What about Storm Peter or Storm Zy?
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Ive always thought that windows are most vulnerable whilst wet, because the dust in the air will stick to the droplets easier?
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That’s why you want hot water it’s evaporating or beading off as you clean,wait for it lol.
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That’s why you want hot water it’s evaporating or beading off as you clean,wait for it lol.
Don't have that problem of beading if you use rinse bars above stock of brush, hot or cold, always cascade sheeting which dries quicker unless you can prove otherwise.
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Lol rubbish a window will make the water bead or sheet how it comes out the factory due to the temperature when made,if it sheets it will sheet if it beads up it will do just that.
I’ve used rinse bars they give an appearance of rinsing better initially when the water hits the glass and that’s it no different to 4 jets which I find better,if you want less water left on the glass for a smaller amount of time get hot water.
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That’s why you want hot water it’s evaporating or beading off as you clean,wait for it lol.
Don't have that problem of beading if you use rinse bars above stock of brush, hot or cold, always cascade sheeting which dries quicker unless you can prove otherwise.
It’s the finish on the glass that determines whether water will sheet or bead on the glass, nothing to do with what equipment you use.
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Rain guarantee my customers wouldn’t give a damn about that in the main they don’t want to see you cleaning windows when rain is running down the glass as you clean them end of,rain guarantee lol.
I cleaned mine yesterday with hot water today they are dirty again,it’s not the fact that this happens it’s the fact that the news is talking about nothing else so it could be classed as taking the wee wee.
It can be pouring with rain at 8am and then bright summer like sunshine at 9 at that point people don’t think bad of you when you turn up because you didn’t take the mickey at 8am when it was lashing it down,it’s human nature on their part and common sense on yours.