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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richard connett on February 09, 2022, 02:15:33 pm
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For those that soft wash regularly what type of chemical do you use?
I’ve been asked to look at a customers house that has painted rendering that has gone green and black in places. The texture is dimpled . I tried with just water to see how easily it would shift and it didn’t hardly at all.
Has anyone had any success with the product wet and forget?
Just thinking wether to walk away or if these chemicals actually work as described
Cheers
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Hypo
spray in on using backpack and water fed pole
Darran
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Start off with 2% hypo.
Make sure you rinse off after wards, thoroughly, and rinse the windows before the hypo dries on the glass.
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Unless you know what you are doing be vary careful with hypo as you can do a lot of damage .
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Hypo is brilliant stuff but it's hard work and make sure you wear a decent mask.
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Hypo is brilliant stuff but it's hard work and make sure you wear a decent mask.
Hard work ?? Hows that
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Hypo is brilliant stuff but it's hard work and make sure you wear a decent mask.
Hard work ?? Hows that
The last place I did was big. Physically working from a static backpack takes considerable time in application and scrubbing.
I used a cheap mask initially, thinking I was outside and well ventilated. Didn't work.
Bought a decent charcoal filter mask and all was well.
When this place needs doing again I'm going to use my industrial steam cleaner.
For some reason, I can't upload the finished picture.
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Hypo is brilliant stuff but it's hard work and make sure you wear a decent mask.
Hard work ?? Hows that
We use a trolly the application time is so much quicker than a back pack , green algae doesn’t need much scrubbing , it’s the black and red that are harder work .apply the hypo and let it dwell for 45 muinits this will also reduce the the amount of scrubbing needed quite dramatically you are letting the chemical do the work .
The last place I did was big. Physically working from a static backpack takes considerable time in application and scrubbing.
I used a cheap mask initially, thinking I was outside and well ventilated. Didn't work.
Bought a decent charcoal filter mask and all was well.
When this place needs doing again I'm going to use my industrial steam cleaner.
For some reason, I can't upload the finished picture.
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Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
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I was tring to get away from hard work !
Thanks for the reply’s . I take it 2% just means the dilution ? Any pointers on the brand of chemical
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The hypo I get is from Mole Valley Farmers. It comes at 11% so I dilute it down to approx 2% for render. So it’s a fifth of it’s original strength.
Did this place last week, roof, render and drive. Sorry, didn’t get any before pics. This is halfway through the job.
I used a softwash machine, I’ve had enough of backpacks.
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Proper softwash machine, hypo, no scrubbing needed. Never in my life of softwashing have I had to scrub.
Just use a stronger mix, and leave it to dwell for longer.
Shouldn’t need to scrub!
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I know its not render but .....
I did this with back packs..... I only had 2 back packs and the batteries died about 3/4 way through , and I ran out of water.
I managed to finish it using their water source . luckily it was coming clean with TFR
I dont find render cleaning hard , I quite enjoy it
ps its about 4 times the length of whats in the picture
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Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.
There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.
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Proper softwash machine, hypo, no scrubbing needed. Never in my life of softwashing have I had to scrub.
Just use a stronger mix, and leave it to dwell for longer.
Shouldn’t need to scrub!
What machine do you use any pictures of it in action we are currently using pure freedom nano trollies but getting so busy with softwashing need to look at getting something faster , it’s Interesting to hear you don’t scrubb at all ?? Would you be able to get results like this with your way of doing it ? (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644435776_A94D37D9-F345-4E9B-833B-9D9B9D9DAFF1.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644435776_15E976AA-8343-4641-A686-4915DD0E0571.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644435776_582C60AF-F6E4-455E-B0AC-67AC40D15920.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644435776_2EC06CAC-DB5B-498A-9AA8-321BB791D91B.jpeg)
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Perfect thanks for all the info !
I think I’ll give it a go with the hypo and a backpack
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Splash,
I was the first person to buy one of Ben Marriott’s Rolltek machines, I drove up and collected it back in 2015 i think. Still got it! Though have replaced the pump.
I’ve not done one as bad as that, but I have done similar with black algae all over the render.
I use a stronger mix in which case, so 5%, and apply twice if necessary, then the usual rinse off. I’ve never used a brush, ever.
People get worried about higher strengths, but as long as common sense prevails, and you tell the customer what’s necessary, it’s not a problem.
Obviously not a good idea if lead flashing is all over the place. Needs Pre wetting and rinsing fast at those strengths.
Edit: I bought one of Bens Mt4 beast machines last year, but it was actually overkill, too powerful and big for most jobs, so I sold it. The Rolltek is the one to go for.
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Splash,
I was the first person to buy one of Ben Marriott’s Rolltek machines, I drove up and collected it back in 2015 i think. Still got it! Though have replaced the pump.
I’ve not done one as bad as that, but I have done similar with black algae all over the render.
I use a stronger mix in which case, so 5%, and apply twice if necessary, then the usual rinse off. I’ve never used a brush, ever.
People get worried about higher strengths, but as long as common sense prevails, and you tell the customer what’s necessary, it’s not a problem.
Obviously not a good idea if lead flashing is all over the place. Needs Pre wetting and rinsing fast at those strengths.
Edit: I bought one of Bens Mt4 beast machines last year, but it was actually overkill, too powerful and big for most jobs, so I sold it. The Rolltek is the one to go for.
Thanks for your input I have been looking at bens st3 rolltech frame set up but don’t know anything about them , we do loads like in my pictures got 20 booked in and a couple of big industrial units so you just spray with mix then use the same pump to rinse using the pressure to remove the dirt ? No scrubbing?? I need tk find a faster way as we are booking in more jobs than we can physically do at the moment , does yours have a Honda or loncin engine ?.
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Splash don't waste your money - get a chem injector for £20 and fit it to the lance of your p/w suck up from the barrel - that job would be done in around 25 mins - no scrubbing either
Darran
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Splash don't waste your money - get a chem injector for £20 and fit it to the lance of your p/w suck up from the barrel - that job would be done in around 25 mins - no scrubbing either
Darran
Surely that will give tons of overspray fine mist just like pressure washing would though ??
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Not if you use correct nozzles - you don't use 15 degrees
Darran
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Not if you use correct nozzles - you don't use 15 degrees
Darran
What height can you do from the ground with it Darren ?? Zesty would your machine do theses buildings ok ??
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Typical it won’t let me post any pictures now !!!!
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Hear you go
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I could reach that no problem - longest I get mine to fire is 35 feet from the end of the lance usually use a 1 meter but have put in on a 2 meter so approx 40 feet plus your hight to your shoulder
Darran
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I could reach that no problem - longest I get mine to fire is 35 feet from the end of the lance usually use a 1 meter but have put in on a 2 meter so approx 40 feet plus your hight to your shoulder
Darran
Ok thanks that’s interesting and minimal overspray ??? That’s my main concern
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Anything 3 story, I use a pole, I use a conical spray tip Ben did for me, it sits in a Gardiner pole.
Anything below I use the Lance, with an adjustable spray tip. It’ll easily hit 3 story’s.
When I do commercial, I use my pressure washer for the rinse, only as it’s faster, using a sniper nozzle.
But for most domestic jobs, it’s just spray out of one barrel, then move the suction hose into the second barrel full of water to rinse. Works a treat. You’ve got up to 30lpm but only 100 odd psi, so it’s fast rinsing and enough to rinse the loosened dirt away.
If windy, overspray is an issue, so get the pole out to be safe.
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Anything 3 story, I use a pole, I use a conical spray tip Ben did for me, it sits in a Gardiner pole.
Anything below I use the Lance, with an adjustable spray tip. It’ll easily hit 3 story’s.
When I do commercial, I use my pressure washer for the rinse, only as it’s faster, using a sniper nozzle.
But for most domestic jobs, it’s just spray out of one barrel, then move the suction hose into the second barrel full of water to rinse. Works a treat. You’ve got up to 30lpm but only 100 odd psi, so it’s fast rinsing and enough to rinse the loosened dirt away.
Thanks we do loads of this type of work but have just used trolleys with Gardiner poles with spray nozzles off Ben , but desperately need to increase speed of the jobs I think it’s time to start changing the way we work the results are fine just need to be much quicker , think I will give Ben a call I do know him quite well as have all my pressures washing kit off him , thanks for you comments it’s good to get first hand experience from ones that have the kit 👍would you be confident getting theses buildings clean without scrubbing??? Just spray and rinse ?? I know several applications would be needed and rinsing between every other coat Ime guessing?? We are in discussions with a management company that want us to do 400 buildings very similar to the ones in the pictures, not sure wether to go for it or not .
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I’m amazed at how busy you are with the softwashing, I had this conversation with slacky a while back, I’m not getting many enquiries, even though I’m too rated on Google and now had a Google ad running.
I average maybe 2-3 a month. In the summer maybe more, but it seems to be slow here in Essex.
Yeah Ben will sort you out! I think he knows all of us by now!
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I’m amazed at how busy you are with the softwashing, I had this conversation with slacky a while back, I’m not getting many enquiries, even though I’m too rated on Google and now had a Google ad running.
I average maybe 2-3 a month. In the summer maybe more, but it seems to be slow here in Essex.
Yeah Ben will sort you out! I think he knows all of us by now!
The last 2 years softwashing has gone through the roof it’s always been an American thing but now ones are starting to know what it is and specifically ask for it , we have just picked up a contract for a gym group the buildings arnt very big but nice profitable work and not to dirty (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644442827_F6902D74-88AF-46F1-8492-1C43BD1908FF.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644442826_3DB86EE6-2EDF-47DD-922A-D4C29CAF480A.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644442826_9A552F41-BC17-4105-B83E-BE3603E07FCB.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644442826_9F10248B-A485-4C6C-ADD1-6E938DBEE367.jpeg)
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I love it, it’s great money, but for some reason it’s slow for me at the moment.
I’m also not sure about a particular block of flats, for a management company. No water on site, so I’m just not sure I want the faff!
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We also do a lot of pebble dash we live in a very damp area and get a lot of green , red , black algae/ mould hears another job picked up this week , don’t have pictures of the back but it’s much worse , dint know what’s going on it won’t let me post a picture again !!!!!!
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I love it, it’s great money, but for some reason it’s slow for me at the moment.
I’m also not sure about a particular block of flats, for a management company. No water on site, so I’m just not sure I want the faff!
Lol you should be down hear I could give you a full time job for months 😂😂😂
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How are you advertising?
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How are you advertising?
We don’t advertise all our work is gained by recommendation or the website .
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How are you advertising?
We don’t advertise all our work is gained by recommendation or the website .
Must be an area thing then!
I’ve got two separate websites, and a Google ad, yet no where near as busy as you sound, then again, there is a fair amount of competition round here
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Hypo
spray in on using backpack and water fed pole
Darran
what is Hypo?
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How are you advertising?
We don’t advertise all our work is gained by recommendation or the website .
Must be an area thing then!
I’ve got two separate websites, and a Google ad, yet no where near as busy as you sound, then again, there is a fair amount of competition round here
There are a few round hear that do it but not many I don’t actively promote it but it’s on my website and enquires have gone through the roof since Covid with people sitting at home looking at green dirty houses it’s a really damp area and everything goes green , I have a green house to do for one customer and a local nursery want there poly tunnels doing 😂😂😂😂
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Hypo
spray in on using backpack and water fed pole
Darran
what is Hypo?
Sodium hypochlorite ( bleach )
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Here’s my machine, as you can see, it’s now a bit like triggers broom!
It looked lovely when I picked it up from Ben all those years ago. It’s worked hard!
He doesn’t supply them on trolleys, he put mine on a trolley when I was there as a request. Makes it very practical to wheel around customers houses!
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Here’s my machine, as you can see, it’s now a bit like triggers broom!
It looked lovely when I picked it up from Ben all those years ago. It’s worked hard!
He doesn’t supply them on trolleys, he put mine on a trolley when I was there as a request. Makes it very practical to wheel around customers houses!
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Thanks for that it’s intresting . This is a genuine question and not a dig in any way I have just been on the phone to Ben at Rutland and explained the type of stuff we are trying to remove I asking explained that we are using nano trolleys he said that his machine won’t do anything the nano trolly won’t do but will apply much more product faster but it will still need scrubbing, I explained what you said about never scrubbing anything and he said all stuff including vinyl cladding on commercial buildings will still need scrubbing before rinsing , so now I am not sure wether buying one like yours is worth my while ,Ben said what I am doing isn’t any different it what I would have to do with his machine except it will apply a lot more product , what did you use before you had the one you have now ?? The pictures I posted earlier are typical of the stuff we clean on a daily basis what are you cleaning ? And how are you doing it without scrubbing? What mix are you using and what strength ?? Sorry for all the questions but just don’t understand why you arnt having to scrub anything. Any advice greatly appreciated. If I di get one it will be like yours in a trolly , I need 4 of them but dint want it slender money on it if the nano trolleys we have now are just as good ??? I assume you use a wheel bin as a mix tank and draw from that ??
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No the machine is purely about efficiency and speed, the strength is what’s needed to prevent scrubbing, I think most guys are using 2% but you need 5% plus for really bad render.
Cladding is obviously easier, and needs less strength.
I use a big blue barrel for the softwash mix, and then a massive wager butt for rinsing
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No the machine is purely about efficiency and speed, the strength is what’s needed to prevent scrubbing, I think most guys are using 2% but you need 5% plus for really bad render.
Cladding is obviously easier, and needs less strength.
I use a big blue barrel for the softwash mix, and then a massive wager butt for rinsing
Thanks for the information 👍
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No the machine is purely about efficiency and speed, the strength is what’s needed to prevent scrubbing, I think most guys are using 2% but you need 5% plus for really bad render.
Cladding is obviously easier, and needs less strength.
I use a big blue barrel for the softwash mix, and then a massive wager butt for rinsing
Thanks for the information 👍
The other great thing about a softwash machine is the roller pump is designed for checmial use, so defo a good idea for regular use!
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if not said already strong hypo and lead flashings don't go well together ... turns lead orange.
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if not said already strong hypo and lead flashings don't go well together ... turns lead orange.
Yeah it rusts metal, badly .
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Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.
There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.
If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.
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I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.
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I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.
That’s why you hire a cherry picker for £150, if they’re charging £2k then they are making serious money.
Honestly, softwashing is amazing money compared to window cleaning, it’s quick, one lump sum, and less strenuous. I’d happily trade all my window cleaning work for daily SoftWashing if I could…
Done right, it’s safe, effective, simple and easy.
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I wouldn't trade all of mine but I would trade a very high percentage of it for soft/pressure washing work.
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I wouldn't trade all of mine but I would trade a very high percentage of it for soft/pressure washing work.
Regarding our emails a while back slacky, just sent you another one ;D
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I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.
That’s why you hire a cherry picker for £150, if they’re charging £2k then they are making serious money.
Honestly, softwashing is amazing money compared to window cleaning, it’s quick, one lump sum, and less strenuous. I’d happily trade all my window cleaning work for daily SoftWashing if I could…
Done right, it’s safe, effective, simple and easy.
I think ware you are the buildings arnt as dirty as down hear so that’s what makes it easier , we have to scrub them but I will try one that we have booked in in a couple of weeks doing it your way and see what results we get , I love softwash but it is hard work doing the building s I have posted pictures of on hear , we currently have 40 jobs booked in and am negotiating with a management company for 400 houses over a period of 18 months so do need to find an easier quicker way 😂😂😂 ware are you based ??
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The lift they have more or less allows them to clean the whole roof from the front or the back of the property without moving it,some lifts only allow you to go up and in a limited amount the spider lifts are much more versatile.
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I’m sure you can earn very well doing this but as said it’s not as easy as it looks,saw a window cleaning company that’s also gone into roof cleaning they’ve purchased a spider lift and it looked like they were using a sand blasting method to get off the moss etc.
Charging around 2k per roof seems good until all the costs are weighed up of the lift H&S courses and vehicle to get it to site and the maintaining of the lift itself,need to clean a fair few roofs a month to make it pay.
That’s why you hire a cherry picker for £150, if they’re charging £2k then they are making serious money.
Honestly, softwashing is amazing money compared to window cleaning, it’s quick, one lump sum, and less strenuous. I’d happily trade all my window cleaning work for daily SoftWashing if I could…
Done right, it’s safe, effective, simple and easy.
I think ware you are the buildings arnt as dirty as down hear so that’s what makes it easier , we have to scrub them but I will try one that we have booked in in a couple of weeks doing it your way and see what results we get , I love softwash but it is hard work doing the building s I have posted pictures of on hear , we currently have 40 jobs booked in and am negotiating with a management company for 400 houses over a period of 18 months so do need to find an easier quicker way 😂😂😂 ware are you based ??
Essex, so a dry part of the U.K. and also fairly sunny, I rarely see buildings as bad as the ones you’ve posted!
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Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.
There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.
If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.
No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.
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I reckon there’s a lot of people that do this kind of stuff that don’t give a toss where the chemicals go.
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Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.
There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.
If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.
No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.
Round here, most drain into local streams that feed rivers. How many of you check where the run off is going?
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Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.
There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.
If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.
No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.
Round here, most drain into local streams that feed rivers. How many of you check where the run off is going?
It’s part of our risk assessment, so yes we do take it very seriously , but I do agree with you many don’t , but the EA are very pro active in bringing prosecutions against ones that do pollute waterways especially in our area .
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It wouldn’t be strong enough to cause any harm to a stream or river, by the time it’s hit the ground it’s nutrilised. Not to mention the fact the average house softwash is a drop in the ocean when compared to a stream/river etc.
My dad did hear of someone who killed a load of fish in a local large pond, he disgaurded a huge volume of hypo not realising it went straight into the pond.
I’ve no idea how it happened!
My old man dealt with hypo all day long as a technical manager of a local leisure Center. They used hypo for the swimming pools and leisure pools. He’s had it in his eyes and all sorts!
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Think you require a ‘consent to discharge’ from water provider.
Guess you guys are all breaking the law.
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/posts/m735724-Bleach-down-drains
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Think you require a ‘consent to discharge’ from water provider.
Guess you guys are all breaking the law.
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/posts/m735724-Bleach-down-drains
Actually before making wild accusations you need to get your facts straight , don’t believe all you read on a forum as we regular have discussion with both the EA and the river authorities, and the local water companies , it’s quite acceptable to let diluted hypo go into storm water drains how do you think farmers do in in milking parlours ??? It is a biodegradable product that turns into salts that are naturally found in the soil . If you google it you will also find that there are bleach lakes in America that form naturally , do you know how bleach is formed ?? I doubt it , not all of us are damaging the environment .
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Think you require a ‘consent to discharge’ from water provider.
Guess you guys are all breaking the law.
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/posts/m735724-Bleach-down-drains
Actually before making wild accusations you need to get your facts straight , don’t believe all you read on a forum as we regular have discussion with both the EA and the river authorities, and the local water companies , it’s quite acceptable to let diluted hypo go into storm water drains how do you think farmers do in in milking parlours ??? It is a biodegradable product that turns into salts that are naturally found in the soil . If you google it you will also find that there are bleach lakes in America that form naturally , do you know how bleach is formed ?? I doubt it , not all of us are damaging the environment .
Not accusing you of anything, I’m sure you’ve trade effluent consent all in order. I doubt many posting here have though.
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Think you require a ‘consent to discharge’ from water provider.
Guess you guys are all breaking the law.
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/posts/m735724-Bleach-down-drains
Actually before making wild accusations you need to get your facts straight , don’t believe all you read on a forum as we regular have discussion with both the EA and the river authorities, and the local water companies , it’s quite acceptable to let diluted hypo go into storm water drains how do you think farmers do in in milking parlours ??? It is a biodegradable product that turns into salts that are naturally found in the soil . If you google it you will also find that there are bleach lakes in America that form naturally , do you know how bleach is formed ?? I doubt it , not all of us are damaging the environment .
Not accusing you of anything, I’m sure you’ve trade effluent consent all in order. I doubt many posting here have though.
One of the most polluting of things in water courses is milk it removes the oxygen from the water only needs a small amount . Bleach once diluted looses its strength very quickly and breakers down very quickly, the EA, water board , are more than happy with the risk assessments we have supplied them , we Evan do work for English heritage , national trust and Several other very environmentally fussy customers that allow us to use bleach on their properties. Yes bleach can be dangerous but you swim in it in a swimming pool , you eat it every time you eat salad stuff from a supermarket as all salad crops are washed in it , and in America it’s injected into meat to kill bacteria to give longer shelf life , I accept it’s very diluted firm but so is what we discharge into the water ways . I have a very large koi pond in my garden with with huge koi in it worth many thousands of pounds each I have been softwashing around it fir over 15 years and never had a problem because we use the product carefully and know what we are doing .
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https://www.netregs.org.uk/environmental-topics/permits-licences-and-exemptions/permits-and-licences-an-overview/trade-effluent-consents-and-agreements/
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https://www.netregs.org.uk/environmental-topics/permits-licences-and-exemptions/permits-and-licences-an-overview/trade-effluent-consents-and-agreements/
That’s is for northern Ireland and Scotland
On most domestic jobs the waste water stays on the property, it’s generally only commercial that this would apply and we already have written consent from the EA , river authorities and water board to discharge to any surface drain .
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interesting - and this was brought up a few years back regarding pressure washing - as in any water used to clean a drive may contain oils etc.. and therefore could be interpreted as discharging to the drain - if you really want to take it to its full conclusion even wfp requires a permit as your removing contaminants off the glass that will find its way to the drain....
The key is domestic or industrial - I would say that so little hypo is used it would be at a domestic level unless your pouring several litres neat directly into a drain - and if the customer is not connected to the sewers ?
I recently looked at a Huge job for a cooking oil recycle plant - that industrial - in the end I passed as the hassle required to contain the waste and transport it far outweighed £££££'s I'd get for doing it (and the restless nights! in case it went wrong)
Darran
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644430148_a11.png)
Looks very good but is a big place to do with a back pack 😂😂 well done
I sat the backpack by the tap and connected it to the hose reel which made life a lot easier.
The hypo was agricultural stuff, incredibly cheap and very strong.
Even with a surfactant and 30-45 minutes dwell time it needed a couple of applications - though it was extremely grubby.
There are some health and safety concerns with the use of it you're also not supposed to get into a water source.
It did do a highly effective job of restoring the render but I think I'd rather just spend my time cleaning windows.
If it gets into a stream, you’re probably killing lots of fish.
No fish were harmed during the making of this job.
Mains drainage and straight to the treatment works.
Round here, most drain into local streams that feed rivers. How many of you check where the run off is going?
Well as the property is 200 ft ASL in the middle of a town and the water treatment works is directly below it...
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You’ll require trade effluent consent then.
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You can be almost certain that nearly all people that use this domestically just let it go down the drain,the guy I know that soft washes isn’t the kind of person to let that bother him like a lot of others lol.
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You’ll require trade effluent consent then.
Are you a jobsworth?
Sodium hypochlorite poses no threat at all, it is nutrilised extremely quickly.
Stop being a H&S officer and enjoy life.
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Ignore him. He claimed on the other side of the forum he saw Concorde take off in the middle of the pandemic from Heathrow.
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Ignore him. He claimed on the other side of the forum he saw Concorde take off in the middle of the pandemic from Heathrow.
Right….
An odd one then!
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Ignore him. He claimed on the other side of the forum he saw Concorde take off in the middle of the pandemic from Heathrow.
Must be on some sort of halusenogenic substance 😂😂😂
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You’ll require trade effluent consent then.
Are you a jobsworth?
Sodium hypochlorite poses no threat at all, it is nutrilised extremely quickly.
Stop being a H&S officer and enjoy life.
Ignorance is bliss eh?
Ring up your water provider and ask them what you require for trade effluent.
You know I’m right. ;D
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You’ll require trade effluent consent then.
Are you a jobsworth?
Sodium hypochlorite poses no threat at all, it is nutrilised extremely quickly.
Stop being a H&S officer and enjoy life.
Ignorance is bliss eh?
Ring up your water provider and ask them what you require for trade effluent.
You know I’m right. ;D
I’m pretty sure the water board aren’t worried about a few softwash jobs mate.
Domestically speaking, it’s not even a consideration.
Do you ring your water company when you put bleach down the toilet?
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I’m not on mains water.
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I’m not on mains water.
I thought rats lived down the sewers 😂
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Ignore him. He claimed on the other side of the forum he saw Concorde take off in the middle of the pandemic from Heathrow.
Stationary, not taking off.
It’s stored there apparently.
Happy to enlighten you. ;D
https://www.heritageconcorde.com/g-boab-208
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I did try to tell you that at the time, but you weren't having it.