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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H MAN on February 03, 2022, 10:22:12 pm

Title: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 03, 2022, 10:22:12 pm
How we  remove to remove heavy calcium Stains off glass/windows.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGXIM0LRMTcRTqoV3rJVYOSWcQOF3li0O

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1643933711_HARD WATER STAINS.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1643933736_HARD WATER STAINS 1.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1643934158_HARD WATER REMOVAL.jpg)
Title: Re: Remove Heavy calcium off glass.
Post by: Smudger on February 03, 2022, 10:44:43 pm
just when you thought it was safe to enter the forum...

Durrr da.....   Durrr da.......    Durrr da.... 
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 04, 2022, 10:57:08 am
Believe you have Winsol Crystal Clear 550 there in the UK.
This is the first time I tried it to see how it worked about 10 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4GqT9V4OzE

Done this video about 10 years ago. Just trying these chemicals  CC550 cleaner / OneRestore to see how they REMOVE HARD WATER STAINS 0FF WINDOWS.
Also at that time we were (not wearing the appropriate PPE.)
So be sure you wear the right PPE when using these chemicals.
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Smudger on February 04, 2022, 01:12:24 pm
yes I can see your resurrecting 11 year old videos again  ::)roll

I would look out the last person on here to keep reviving old threads got banned  :o

g'day


Darran
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 04, 2022, 09:43:30 pm
The reason put this up because all this guy from UK could do is talk about it.
Just show on a piece of glass with ( hardly no hard water damage) on it.
Not on  actual  windows with Heavy Calcium Stains in real time.
Which CC550 is used for.
https://youtu.be/sF8U4F79eJI
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 04, 2022, 11:03:04 pm
This video was done 12 years ago think it explains it better:
For glass that won't come clean with routine washing or extra elbow grease, or for glass with a haze or etching caused by hard water, pollutants or runoff from cement.
Helps to eliminate alkaline residues, exhaust particles, chemical and mineral deposits, water spots and the runoff from brick, concrete and mortar. Designed to remove stage 1 alkaline buildup on glass. Restores the surface clarity of glass by reducing the affects of minute pitting and hard water buildup. One gallon can restore up to 4,000 square feet of glass.
Winsol Crystal Clear 550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpjFoN-kqIk

Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Splash & dash on February 04, 2022, 11:09:20 pm
Hear we go again I thought it was to good to last at least we had a few weeks piece 😰😰😰
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 05, 2022, 12:12:05 am
Hear we go again I thought it was to good to last at least we had a few weeks piece 😰😰😰
  THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK:   :-*    https://www.orai.com/blog/think-before-you-speak/
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: DJW on February 05, 2022, 09:01:13 am
Don’t use it on old single pane glass. I wrecked one with that acid. It’s not that good.

I have a bottle in the van, it’s been there for at least ten years. You certainly don’t need a video link to show how to use it.
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 05, 2022, 09:34:40 am
Don’t use it on old single pane glass. I wrecked one with that acid. It’s not that good.

I have a bottle in the van, it’s been there for at least ten years. You certainly don’t need a video link to show how to use it.

And it sounds like you ( have not used it properly) there more then just putting it on the glass and scrubbing.
Here is a brief look what it is used for.
Much of what happens to glass is so gradual that one does not often see anything wrong with the window.
It is not until the window is washed and the haze remains, that the damage is noticed.
Part of the visible haze may be mineral deposits, structure runoff, pollution in the air or other contaminates, which attach tenaciously to the glass.
Such deposits damage glass and do not readily come off with just regular washing.

Overtime these surface deposits and etching of the glass can be perceived as cloudiness or hazing.
This is known as stage I and stage II corrosion. Stage I corrosion can be cleared so that visibility is restored to the glass.
Stage II corrosion may look hazy, white or even in some cases clear, as it holds on to the damaged particles until they are released by cleaning or clearing the glass.
Cloudiness occurs because the light is refracted irregularly as it passes through the irregular surface of the damaged glass.
This refracted light appears to the human eye, without magnification, as a general whitening or haziness of the glass.

CRYSTAL CLEAR 550 will clear away only mineral deposits and damaged glass from the surface and may expose stage II corrosion.
Stage II corrosion is usually not correctable using compounds such as CRYSTAL CLEAR 550 and can be made worse by any attempt to clear.
(That is why the product label and literature expresses to test every window before clearing.)
If the pre-existing damage is substantial then mechanical polishing or glass replacement may be necessary.
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: DJW on February 05, 2022, 10:36:52 am
…. and you sir, fail to listen! Common trait on this forum.
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 05, 2022, 10:58:44 am
So here is how to use it as per:   WINSOL Laboratories, Inc.
READ INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE USE.

USE STRAIGHT OR DILUTED BY 50% WITH COOL WATER. ALWAYS WEAR RUBBER GLOVES, PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, BOOTS AND SPLASH GOGGLES. AVOID CONTACT WITH SKIN.
Always use plastic pails and containers.
Do not use metal or painted containers.
Clean window glass before using (CRYSTAL CLEAR-550. CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 is NOT a cleaner. )
ALWAYS TEST GLASS BEFORE APPLYING CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 TO ENTIRE WINDOW.
Check for surface coatings and residues such as silicone treatment, building sealer and waxes.
(According to some glass manufacturers, silicone treatments and building sealers may be removed by applying toluene first to soften the film and a low abrasive rubbing compound to remove the residue.
CHECK BOTH SIDES OF GLASS FOR STAGE II CORROSION.
(GLASS WILL USUALLY TURN WHITE WITH COATINGS AND STAGE II CORROSION WHEN TESTED.)
STAGE II CORROSION IS NOT CORRECTABLE AND GLASS SHOULD BE REPLACED.
Apply CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 with a natural sponge or a clean, white cloth.
Wring sponge or cloth to prevent runoff.
Keep solution from running down any building or other surfaces.
If product runs down the glass, it is being overused.
Apply for one to two minutes, then rinse with water or a dilute solution of trisodium phosphate.
Repeat as necessary.
DO NOT USE CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 ON WINDOW FRAMES OR ANY NON-GLASS SURFACE.
DO NOT USE ON SELF-CLEANING (TITANIUM) GLASS.
RINSE AWAY ANY SPILLS IMMEDIATELY.
NOTE: If glass becomes hazed or white, proceed no further until you can determine if it is a coating, building sealer or Stage II corrosion, or if given permission by supervision or building management personnel.
CAUTION:
Contains Acid: CAS 7664-39-3.
Do not take internally.
Do not rub in with fingers or permit contact with skin or eyes. Always wash hands and contaminated skin after using, paying particular attention to skin under nails.
Avoid breathing vapors.
NOTICE: Manufacturer and sellers will only replace product which is defective.
Manufacturer and sellers are not responsible or liable for injuries, damaged equipment, direct or otherwise, due to incorrect use of this product.
Before using, user shall determine the suitability of this product for his/her intended use and the user assumes all risk and liability whatsoever in connection therewith.
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Splash & dash on February 05, 2022, 11:43:11 am
Hear we go again I thought it was to good to last at least we had a few weeks piece 😰😰😰
  THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK:   :-*    https://www.orai.com/blog/think-before-you-speak/


With the greatest of respect how old is this video ???! If you are going to post stuff please make it relevant to the modern world and something that will benefit ones
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 05, 2022, 11:57:26 am
Hear we go again I thought it was to good to last at least we had a few weeks piece 😰😰😰
  THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK:   :-*    https://www.orai.com/blog/think-before-you-speak/


With the greatest of respect how old is this video ???! If you are going to post stuff please make it relevant to the modern world and something that will benefit ones
Well glade you pointed that out as said in the video this was when we were first trying it out.
In the ten years since we have found how to use it correctly.
And it's just as relevant now.
How do you use CC550??
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Smudger on February 05, 2022, 12:31:49 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 05, 2022, 02:19:10 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
If you too scared to use it, you don't have to.
Sure there are many that at lest give it try see how it goes.
You can stay safe using your WFPs. ::)roll
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 05, 2022, 09:35:31 pm
This is for the people that would like to have,
 CRYSTAL CLEAR 550
Material Safety Data Sheet
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/6014___6292_-_crystal_clear_550_-_sds_121417.pdf
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 06, 2022, 02:24:04 am
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Splash & dash on February 06, 2022, 11:44:03 am
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 06, 2022, 09:00:02 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .

You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Splash & dash on February 06, 2022, 09:30:17 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .

You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.



It’s not cost effective our hourly rate is that high it would be cheaper to replace the glass that’s what most customers hear would do .
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 06, 2022, 10:07:09 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .

You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.



It’s not cost effective our hourly rate is that high it would be cheaper to replace the glass that’s what most customers hear would do .
Yes your  right , might be safer for you to stick to something you know.
And just wash windows.

Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Smudger on February 06, 2022, 10:36:26 pm
Shame you don't stick to things you know...

Darran
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Splash & dash on February 06, 2022, 10:40:25 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .

You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.



It’s not cost effective our hourly rate is that high it would be cheaper to replace the glass that’s what most customers hear would do .
Yes your  right , might be safer for you to stick to something you know.
And just wash windows.


I run a very successful business and restoring glass doesn’t pay cleaning dirty glass does so we clean dirty glass 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 06, 2022, 11:09:25 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .

You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.



It’s not cost effective our hourly rate is that high it would be cheaper to replace the glass that’s what most customers hear would do .
Yes your  right , might be safer for you to stick to something you know.
And just wash windows.


I run a very successful business and restoring glass doesn’t pay cleaning dirty glass does so we clean dirty glass 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have no doubt that you run a very successful business.
And restoring glass doesn’t pay for you.
As you probably not that interested to look into it any way.
That's fine, but there many people that do glass restoration that are always' looking for new way' of doing this.
This is for those people.

Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Smudger on February 07, 2022, 09:39:35 am
Its not a new way tho, is it - its donkeys years old

I did try this many years ago when I thought all this restoration stuff should be part of my window cleaning service..

its not very good - also the time and effort required to restore a window is just not cost efective, its would be great if you actually brought something NEW to the forum - not recycling old products and your old videos

Darran
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Slacky on February 07, 2022, 01:44:08 pm
You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.

There always has been an opportunity. You're the one who's only just discovered a better way to clean limescale off glass....
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: Splash & dash on February 07, 2022, 05:45:52 pm
It’s taken you ten mins ears to work out how to use it - wow!

Then if there is underlying damage what was the point in applying it in the first place just to reveal more damage you can’t correct - this just leads to confrontation with the customer…

Darran
 
This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644116406_Glass clearing Authorization and Release.jpg)




We don’t offer a glass restoration service to busy with normal cleaning , if it’s bad like that we recommend they replace the affected glass as it’s cheaper than trying to restore it  and new glass will be guaranteed to be ok .

You might not offer this service.
But now there's a opportunity for other people to  have an add this to there business.



It’s not cost effective our hourly rate is that high it would be cheaper to replace the glass that’s what most customers hear would do .
Yes your  right , might be safer for you to stick to something you know.
And just wash windows.


I run a very successful business and restoring glass doesn’t pay cleaning dirty glass does so we clean dirty glass 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have no doubt that you run a very successful business.
And restoring glass doesn’t pay for you.
As you probably not that interested to look into it any way.
That's fine, but there many people that do glass restoration that are always' looking for new way' of doing this.
This is for those people.


I think window cleaning in Australia must be different to the uk I know dozens of window cleaners and none of them offer restoration they are all to busy doing monthly cleans that pay well .
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 07, 2022, 09:28:33 pm
Don't know what the big deal is  looks as though that Winsol cc550 has come on the market in UK only recently.
And all the information we have put up to  is from the manufactures Winsol.
So you  know the pros and the cons.
And if your not interested don't use it.
If you have any other questions regarding the product contact  https://www.winsol.com/contact-us.html

1/ How to use it.what too look out for when using, PPE etc.

READ INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE USE.
​USE STRAIGHT OR DILUTED BY 50% WITH COOL WATER. ALWAYS WEAR RUBBER GLOVES, PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, BOOTS AND SPLASH GOGGLES. AVOID CONTACT WITH SKIN.
Always use plastic pails and containers.
Do not use metal or painted containers.
Clean window glass before using (CRYSTAL CLEAR-550. CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 is NOT a cleaner. )
ALWAYS TEST GLASS BEFORE APPLYING CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 TO ENTIRE WINDOW.
Check for surface coatings and residues such as silicone treatment, building sealer and waxes.
(According to some glass manufacturers, silicone treatments and building sealers may be removed by applying toluene first to soften the film and a low abrasive rubbing compound to remove the residue).
CHECK BOTH SIDES OF GLASS FOR STAGE II CORROSION.
(GLASS WILL USUALLY TURN WHITE WITH COATINGS AND STAGE II CORROSION WHEN TESTED.)
STAGE II CORROSION IS NOT CORRECTABLE AND GLASS SHOULD BE REPLACED.
Apply CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 with a natural sponge or a clean, white cloth.
Wring sponge or cloth to prevent runoff.
Keep solution from running down any building or other surfaces.
If product runs down the glass, it is being overused.

Apply for one to two minutes, then rinse with water or a dilute solution of trisodium phosphate.
Repeat as necessary.
DO NOT USE CRYSTAL CLEAR-550 ON WINDOW FRAMES OR ANY NON-GLASS SURFACE.
DO NOT USE ON SELF-CLEANING (TITANIUM) GLASS.
RINSE AWAY ANY SPILLS IMMEDIATELY.
NOTE: If glass becomes hazed or white, proceed no further until you can determine if it is a coating, building sealer or Stage II corrosion, or if given permission by supervision or building management personnel.
CAUTION:
Contains Acid: CAS 7664-39-3.
Do not take internally.
Do not rub in with fingers or permit contact with skin or eyes.
Always wash hands and contaminated skin after using, paying particular attention to skin under nails.
Avoid breathing vapors.



NOTICE: Manufacturer and sellers will only replace product which is defective.
Manufacturer and sellers are not responsible or liable for injuries, damaged equipment, direct or otherwise, due to incorrect use of this product.
Before using, user shall determine the suitability of this product for his/her intended use and the user assumes all risk and liability whatsoever in connection therewith.

2/Material Safety Data Sheet
https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/6014___6292_-_crystal_clear_550_-_sds_121417.pdf

3/ This is to inform customers that results may vary depending on the condition of the glass that is being restored

https://www.winsol.com/uploads/4/2/3/1/42312731/glass_clearing_authorization_and_release.docx.pdf





 
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: DJW on February 08, 2022, 07:04:19 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1644303856_77F37507-EA74-4C6C-AD74-F1D0E12597EC.jpeg)
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: DJW on February 08, 2022, 07:07:48 am
Nasty stuff, can’t be bothered with it, would be safer and less hassle to get the pane replaced.
Like I said, it’s nothing new. I’ve had a bottle for at least ten years and never use it. But you’re too stupid to listen.
I can only imagine Winsol must be a company you want to advertise on your dire turgid videos for some reason, money most likely.
Every post you do is a link to your youtube crap.
And that’s about it!
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: H MAN on February 08, 2022, 08:30:37 am
Nasty stuff, can’t be bothered with it, would be safer and less hassle to get the pane replaced.
Like I said, it’s nothing new. I’ve had a bottle for at least ten years and never use it. But you’re too stupid to listen.
I can only imagine Winsol must be a company you want to advertise on your dire turgid videos for some reason, money most likely.
Every post you do is a link to your youtube crap.
And that’s about it!
LOL Of cause they would say that, they want you to get their product .
They call that marketing and it seems that you were sucked in. ::)roll
https://xo2.com.au/shop/category/cleaning-chemicals-glass-shiny-surface-cleaners-3854
Title: Re: Remove Heavy Calcium Stains off Glass.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 08, 2022, 06:23:46 pm
Thread locked. Stop being argumentative for the sake of it H-Man.