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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easy clean on December 19, 2021, 09:02:53 pm
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Hi guys this has probably been asked before 100+ times and I’ve been wfping for 17 years now too so should have solved this ages ago!
Just bought a new van which I will be driving, got rid of the 3 other vans/staff and just got 2 working with me.
Anyway can’t stand the amount of condensation in the vans in the winter do was wondering what you guys do/done to reduce or stop it from happening?
Thanks so much.
The van below is what I’ve ordered so that’s why I want to look after it 👍🏻(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639947650_0F2C3281-E959-40AF-9DDE-F8A8C0EB3E83.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639947593_8A8E5BD0-35A5-4C37-9B2F-6662C9E04E1A.jpeg)
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Really?why are you bothered?its a van and you carry water in it all the time ;D...I think some guys put them dehumidifier things in their cab...
Me?on cold mornings I just put the blowers on full,heated windscreen, heated seat and fire up the diesel heater....sometimes I use a squeegee on my windscreen if really bad...its gone by the time I get to my first job of the day
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
Hi easy clean,I'm being nosey why do you want your office etc in your van ?
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I've had a brand new Custom Limited for a month and have been keeping an eye on the inside roof and so far it's bone dry and showing no signs of condensation.
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
Removing your bulk head will be a great way to cause condensation in your cab and not sure a van is the best place for your office and you shouldn't need to justify the purchase of a van for a window cleaning business.
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
Laptop and printer in your van?I have a desk at home for admin... my van is just used for cleaning...
I can understand why you want a solution now! :)
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Install a couple of roof vents
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Install a couple of roof vents
Have you got roof vents in your van?
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
Hi easy clean,I'm being nosey why do you want your office etc in your van ?
After 17 years I’ve decided to make so drastic changes, I want the laptop and printer and paperwork to be left in the van along with my mobile phone because I’ve decided that at the end of the day when I return home I do t want to be reminded or do anything work related at home 👍🏻
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
Removing your bulk head will be a great way to cause condensation in your cab and not sure a van is the best place for your office and you shouldn't need to justify the purchase of a van for a window cleaning business.
It will have a bulkhead, either as a crew cab or it will have a crew cab bulkhead installed.
The reason why I am trying to justify and make these changes to it are so it can be used for more than just work…….fishing, going out on my bike and days out for the family! That’s why I’ve bought this particular van at £42k 😱
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I've had a brand new Custom Limited for a month and have been keeping an eye on the inside roof and so far it's bone dry and showing no signs of condensation.
Hi Simon
Do you leave your van filled up of an evening or do you fill it in the morning before work?
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Are you a trad cleaner ?
I cant see there being enough room in there for moving the bulk head and caring water for2 to 3 people
Darran
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Are you a trad cleaner ?
I cant see there being enough room in there for moving the bulk head and caring water for2 to 3 people
Wfp, the tank is being made and is a ‘T’ shape, it probably doesn’t make sense and is too hard to try and explain but it works. Tank is approx 975 litres and it’s got 2 men. I will be doing all my admin throughout the day whilst they clean, hence wanting to have computer in there too!
Darran
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Silicone sheets of polystyrene to the inside if the roof. That’ll stop your condensation. Works on both my vans. You can buy sheets at Wickes etc.
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Wfp, the tank is being made and is a ‘T’ shape, it probably doesn’t make sense and is too hard to try and explain but it works. Tank is approx 975 litres and it’s got 2 men. I will be doing all my admin throughout the day whilst they clean, hence wanting to have computer in there too!
Darran
Make sure you are not overloading the rear axle with 1000kg mainly at the rear!!!! Ford should be able to tell you unladen axle weights and max axle loading.
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Wfp, the tank is being made and is a ‘T’ shape, it probably doesn’t make sense and is too hard to try and explain but it works. Tank is approx 975 litres and it’s got 2 men. I will be doing all my admin throughout the day whilst they clean, hence wanting to have computer in there too!
Darran
Make sure you are not overloading the rear axle with 1000kg mainly at the rear!!!! Ford should be able to tell you unladen axle weights and max axle loading.
It’s the 340 model with 1400kg payload👍🏻
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Hmmm....
rather than argue - I wish you all the best with it
Darran
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Wfp, the tank is being made and is a ‘T’ shape, it probably doesn’t make sense and is too hard to try and explain but it works. Tank is approx 975 litres and it’s got 2 men. I will be doing all my admin throughout the day whilst they clean, hence wanting to have computer in there too!
Darran
Make sure you are not overloading the rear axle with 1000kg mainly at the rear!!!! Ford should be able to tell you unladen axle weights and max axle loading.
It’s the 340 model with 1400kg payload👍🏻
Just because the load is below max payload doesn't mean you can stick all the load over the rear axle!!! Check the axle loading before you install everything. If you have too much load on rear axle 1. you will be driving illegally and you can get fined! 2. the brakes will not work very well, so stopping distance will increase. 3. you will wear out the rear suspension faster!
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Hmmm....
rather than argue - I wish you all the best with it
Darran
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
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As others have said van probably not good place to have your office.
I would not like to leave computer, mobile etc in van on sub zero winter nights. Also could cause more of an inconvenience should van ever be broken into. Thieves are far less likely to nick your wfp gear.
Also much easier to have a comfortable user friendly office layout at home, rather than try to cram it all in your van.
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
Just because I’m concerned, I assume that includes the seats etc…you’re putting in?
To be honest buddy, the set up you want, sounds like one of the weirdest window cleaning set ups I think I’ve heard of!
Why on earth would you want to do your admin in the van? How much admin does a two man band have to be in there all day every day?!
You’re probably going to tell us you run 5 businesses or something, to which I’d say create an office at home and trust your guys to clean windows!!
I’ve got a custom limited from new, I get the condensation but only in the back (bulk head and front is carpeted)
Maybe the wrong attitude but I don’t let it worry me :-[
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
Just because I’m concerned, I assume that includes the seats etc…you’re putting in?
To be honest buddy, the set up you want, sounds like one of the weirdest window cleaning set ups I think I’ve heard of!
Why on earth would you want to do your admin in the van? How much admin does a two man band have to be in there all day every day?!
You’re probably going to tell us you run 5 businesses or something, to which I’d say create an office at home and trust your guys to clean windows!!
I’ve got a custom limited from new, I get the condensation but only in the back (bulk head and front is carpeted)
Maybe the wrong attitude but I don’t let it worry me :-[
I know how payloads and overloading axles work, I spent 12 years as a mobile crane mechanic before window cleaning.
No I don’t have 5 businesses but I do have a life and after 16/17 years of doing this, the last thing I want to do after work is come home and do admin/paperwork. I will not be cleaning as I haven’t done for 14 years and yes I’ve tried having staff go out on there own but after going through about 12 guys enough is enough so that’s why I will now be driving the van so I can be the one who collects payments and marks off houses that have been cleaned, I’ve been lied to, stolen from and tried to ruin my business by staff over the years.
If you don’t get why I want to leave work at work if you like then I’m sorry but I’m wasting my time trying to explain.
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Very nice van but it will get battered in no time, lads dragging the hoses round doors etc.
You might have been better off buying a pickup truck, separate cab then.
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Very nice van but it will get battered in no time, lads dragging the hoses round doors etc.
You might have been better off buying a pickup truck, separate cab then.
I did think that about the doors so I spec’d it with a tailgate door (opens upwards)
Was even looking at some hose reels with extendable guides to stop the hose from rubbing on stuff, but I suppose because I’m driving I always park in front and they pull the hose straight out the back and because my work is very compact I can then drive further down the road and they follow behind working their way back to the van if that makes sense.
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Wfp, the tank is being made and is a ‘T’ shape, it probably doesn’t make sense and is too hard to try and explain but it works. Tank is approx 975 litres and it’s got 2 men. I will be doing all my admin throughout the day whilst they clean, hence wanting to have computer in there too!
Darran
Make sure you are not overloading the rear axle with 1000kg mainly at the rear!!!! Ford should be able to tell you unladen axle weights and max axle loading.
It’s the 340 model with 1400kg payload👍🏻
So it might be but the weight needs to be distributed evenly not all at the back you will be overloading the rear axle and it will drive like a pig
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Wfp, the tank is being made and is a ‘T’ shape, it probably doesn’t make sense and is too hard to try and explain but it works. Tank is approx 975 litres and it’s got 2 men. I will be doing all my admin throughout the day whilst they clean, hence wanting to have computer in there too!
Darran
Make sure you are not overloading the rear axle with 1000kg mainly at the rear!!!! Ford should be able to tell you unladen axle weights and max axle loading.
It’s the 340 model with 1400kg payload👍🏻
So it might be but the weight needs to be distributed evenly not all at the back you will be overloading the rear axle and it will drive like a pig
The rear axle is carrying 900kg when the van is empty so technically it could have 1100kg of weight put on the rear axle and still be ok, but obviously I would not be doing that this is why I am having a ‘T’ shape low profile tank made to distribute the load so some of the weight is transferred onto the front axle.
Thank you for everybody’s concerns but I spent a lot of time using a rental van weighing it with the tanks in different positions and working out that it was still going to be legal both overall payload and axle loads.
Please can we not go off on a tangent and concentrate on the original post about condensation 👍🏻
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Personally I think your crazy... ;D
Have 2 vehicles!I use my van exclusively for cleaning then a nice car for leisure time...admin work with laptop and printer takes place in my little office at home(complete with swivel chair!)....
No way would I be leaving my laptop,printer and smartphone in my van at any time day or night! ;D
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Personally I think your crazy... ;D
Have 2 vehicles!I use my van exclusively for cleaning then a nice car for leisure time...admin work with laptop and printer takes place in my little office at home(complete with swivel chair!)....
No way would I be leaving my laptop,printer and smartphone in my van at any time day or night! ;D
I’d like to think that I do also have a nice car, Mercedes CLA 45 AMG oh and for you to say I’m crazy, you must’ve seen me driving it 🤣
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
It’s not just the payload that could be a problem. Because the alloys and tyres are aftermarket, if I were you I’d be checking the load rating of the tyres, I’d be surprised if they are rated high enough to carry 1400kg.
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I think condensation will be a problem with three sweaty men and a secretary in the back.
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
It’s not just the payload that could be a problem. Because the alloys and tyres are aftermarket, if I were you I’d be checking the load rating of the tyres, I’d be surprised if they are rated high enough to carry 1400kg.
They’re not aftermarket wheels and tyres it is coming direct from fords like that brand new so yes it will be load rated to take the high payload, thank you too for your concern though
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
It’s not just the payload that could be a problem. Because the alloys and tyres are aftermarket, if I were you I’d be checking the load rating of the tyres, I’d be surprised if they are rated high enough to carry 1400kg.
They’re not aftermarket wheels and tyres it is coming direct from fords like that brand new so yes it will be load rated to take the high payload, thank you too for your concern though
Thought it was a GT, Motion R or similar? In which case they are aftermarket and not direct from Ford.
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According to fords
Front 1625kg
Rear 2015kg
Yes I have already weighed the van empty both front and rear axle and where I am positioning the tank it would take up to 1100 litres, thank you for your concern ;D
It’s not just the payload that could be a problem. Because the alloys and tyres are aftermarket, if I were you I’d be checking the load rating of the tyres, I’d be surprised if they are rated high enough to carry 1400kg.
They’re not aftermarket wheels and tyres it is coming direct from fords like that brand new so yes it will be load rated to take the high payload, thank you too for your concern though
Thought it was a GT, Motion R or similar? In which case they are aftermarket and not direct from Ford.
It is a GT and yes it is direct from ford. GT will only deal with Trust Gord and the van goes directly from production line to GT and then back to the dealer where I collect it from, the full warranty is with fords and that includes all the GT modifications. The GT package is a ford recognised option, so yes it will be the correct load rated tyres and wheels for the 340 model, it’s more than they dare do as it is the same as them putting underrated tyres on any other model. Thank you again for your concerns 👍🏻
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I don’t understand ones buy theses modified vans with body kits and big wheels with low profile tyres for work they are totally impractical , uncomfortable , and very easily damaged . An ordinary van with steel wheels and normal tyres is far more practical fir our work , if buying a van just for pleasure use then fine but for work it’s a total waste of money , usually driven by old guys trying to be boy racers 😂😂😂
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I don’t understand ones buy theses modified vans with body kits and big wheels with low profile tyres for work they are totally impractical , uncomfortable , and very easily damaged . An ordinary van with steel wheels and normal tyres is far more practical fir our work , if buying a van just for pleasure use then fine but for work it’s a total waste of money , usually driven by old guys trying to be boy racers 😂😂😂
If I wanted to be a boy racer and you had read previous posts I’d just get in my car. Hope you enjoy your normal van with normal tyres and wheels. Merry Christmas 🎄
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I don’t understand ones buy theses modified vans with body kits and big wheels with low profile tyres for work they are totally impractical , uncomfortable , and very easily damaged . An ordinary van with steel wheels and normal tyres is far more practical fir our work , if buying a van just for pleasure use then fine but for work it’s a total waste of money , usually driven by old guys trying to be boy racers 😂😂😂
If I wanted to be a boy racer and you had read previous posts I’d just get in my car. Hope you enjoy your normal van with normal tyres and wheels. Merry Christmas 🎄
Yes I did read it that makes it Evan more strange that you want a boy racer modded van , 😂😂😂😂
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About the condensation thing - you can get powered vents that run off your leisure battery, as well as the conventional wind-assisted ones. Or if you're feeling way-out, how about a dehumidifier on a wifi plug? Put in the van overnight, use your smart home app to switch it on from 0200-0600 perhaps and wake up to a dry load compartment
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What a bizarre thing to do. I can see why everyone else is having difficulty making sense of this.
The whys and wherefores apart, once your tank is full, including the weight of the tank itself and 3 men at 13 stone each, you're already at almost 1300kg in weight. Add the ply lining, bulk head, extra seats, roof bars and all the other equipment and you're over your payload before you even set off.
Have you actually thought this out at all?🤔🤔
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What a bizarre thing to do. I can see why everyone else is having difficulty making sense of this.
The whys and wherefores apart, once your tank is full, including the weight of the tank and 3 men at 13 stone each, you're already at almost 1300kg in weight. Add the ply lining, bulk head, extra seats, roof bars and all the other equipment and you're over your payload before you even set off.
Have you actually thought this out at all?🤔🤔
You best take it easy this Christmas mate, no Christmas pudding for you! Don’t tell me you’ll be the fat bloke who’s signing up for the gym in the new year 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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What a bizarre thing to do. I can see why everyone else is having difficulty making sense of this.
The whys and wherefores apart, once your tank is full, including the weight of the tank and 3 men at 13 stone each, you're already at almost 1300kg in weight. Add the ply lining, bulk head, extra seats, roof bars and all the other equipment and you're over your payload before you even set off.
Have you actually thought this out at all?🤔🤔
You best take it easy this Christmas mate, no Christmas pudding for you! Don’t tell me you’ll be the fat bloke who’s signing up for the gym in the new year 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My advice is to add an abacus to your xmas list, I've got a feeling it could come in handy for you!😉
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What a bizarre thing to do. I can see why everyone else is having difficulty making sense of this.
The whys and wherefores apart, once your tank is full, including the weight of the tank and 3 men at 13 stone each, you're already at almost 1300kg in weight. Add the ply lining, bulk head, extra seats, roof bars and all the other equipment and you're over your payload before you even set off.
Have you actually thought this out at all?🤔🤔
You best take it easy this Christmas mate, no Christmas pudding for you! Don’t tell me you’ll be the fat bloke who’s signing up for the gym in the new year 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My advice is to add an abacus to your xmas list, I've got a feeling it could come in handy for you!😉
Goodnight Karen 👋🏻
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Ignore the haters
Nigel easy clean,
best thing to do is publish some photo's on here when its all done
have a good Christmas
Darran
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Is it NWH. Comes across like him.
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It may just be a van to some people but to justify the price in having to use it for more than just work, it’s having the bulkhead removed and moved further back and two seats putting in rear and my computer/printer (mobile office).
That’s why I was hopi g for a solution if possible 👍🏻
Hi easy clean,I'm being nosey why do you want your office etc in your van ?
After 17 years I’ve decided to make so drastic changes, I want the laptop and printer and paperwork to be left in the van along with my mobile phone because I’ve decided that at the end of the day when I return home I do t want to be reminded or do anything work related at home 👍🏻
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Totally understand that I have a small office in my garage where I have laptop,printer and gas fire,when I finish and go indoors (home) I'm not thinking about work until the following morning
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Is it NWH. Comes across like him.
It can't be.... he would never buy a ford
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It's not NWH.
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I thought I'd found a solution then read the bit about leaving the printer in the van. Don't think my idea is going to work after all:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1640089410_t11.png)
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It's not NWH.
I agree, even Nigel's not this thick!😁
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Ignore the haters Nigel easy clean,
best thing to do is publish some photo's on here when its all done
have a good Christmas
Darran
Got to this page and thought exactly the same. What a numpty.
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I wouldn't worry about the condensation.
Laptops and electrical equipment are designed to work within a specific temperature range (unless they are modified) and you will far exceed this putting them in your van.
Good luck to you.