Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on December 18, 2021, 01:32:53 pm
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What's going on?
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What's going on?
Most of the football has been cancelled.
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Have your increased the cal?
If not, you may have wired up the pressure switch wrong.
More info or pics?
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What's going on?
Having a bit of a mare with your gear this year Daz. Might aswell call it a year now and get on that beach a week early.
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Is your battery under voltage?
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Sorted now lads.... ;D
At last! 8)
I had the pump on 99 and the cal on 99...dialed both down and still not pumping just cycling...I disconnected my hose reel a few times and dialed the flow rate down to 50 and it kicked into life...
This pump is so QUIET!I think sometimes we just get used to an old pump being loud....its great on 40 on flow controller....
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I think these pumps take a bit of priming when their brand new..so happy I've managed to sort it!
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What's going on?
Having a bit of a mare with your gear this year Daz. Might aswell call it a year now and get on that beach a week early.
Not long now Danny..... 8)
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Sorted now lads.... ;D
At last! 8)
I had the pump on 99 and the cal on 99...dialed both down and still not pumping just cycling...I disconnected my hose reel a few times and dialed the flow rate down to 50 and it kicked into life...
This pump is so QUIET!I think sometimes we just get used to an old pump being loud....its great on 40 on flow controller....
Glad to hear it is sorted. With Both ca and flow on 99 the pump is working at is max trying to push a lot of water into the hose. The hose can act as a restriction here turning the flow rate down 9 out of 10 will mean the hose is no longer working against the pump.
The higher the calibration the less sensitive the controller becomes to DE. The combination of teh pump working at max, The hose restriction and high cal means the pump pressure switch activates rather than the controller dead ending. Dropping flow rate and or Cal down a bit will help in this situation.
The New V16 controllers are higher rated at a max of 12a Continuous and 15 peak. In compared to 9a continuous and 10a peak on the V11. The V16 then is capable of driving a (a rated pump to its absolute max and have some spare in the tank. The V16 drive stage is more efficient. The up shot of these differences mean that flow rates can be lower than with the previous v11 with no reduction in water volume
This means the pump is drawing less current for the same performance
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Thanks Ian.....
Struggled a bit this morning again too...I tried auto cal and it just kept coming up ERR...
Same thing the pump either DE or PS with cycling in between....no continuous flow...finally got it to pump continuously by flow on 46 and CAL on 99(reduced down to 45 once my water was hot)....
Could the pressure switch be faulty?
Once I got it going its been great all day..it dead ends quickly after turning tap off at pole even with very hot water
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
I would imagine if it’s not come through the jets then it’s likely to have melted somewhere.
Bad electrical connection will throw up weird fault codes on the controller. Pretty sure ps is one of them.
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
No idea mate...I cleaned out the tank and all is good again,it must of only been a little bit of resin that got through the tanks outlet and into the pump...I've not took it apart yet but I will when I get chance
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
No idea mate...I cleaned out the tank and all is good again,it must of only been a little bit of resin that got through the tanks outlet and into the pump...I've not took it apart yet but I will when I get chance
Did you fit a strainer before the pump?
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
No idea mate...I cleaned out the tank and all is good again,it must of only been a little bit of resin that got through the tanks outlet and into the pump...I've not took it apart yet but I will when I get chance
Did you fit a strainer before the pump?
Don’t be silly of course he hasn’t he doesn’t listen to or believe what he’s told 😂😂😂 will end up with the same thing happening again 😂😂😂😂😂
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
No idea mate...I cleaned out the tank and all is good again,it must of only been a little bit of resin that got through the tanks outlet and into the pump...I've not took it apart yet but I will when I get chance
Did you fit a strainer before the pump?
No....there's no room to fit a strainer Danny and it's not practical to be fannying around unscrewing
my cabinet checking it every week or so...
There is no resin in the tank now,I spent 3 hours on Friday flushing it out and vacuuming it...
As long as I don't make the same mistake with the resin inlet/outlets again it'll be fine....👍
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
No idea mate...I cleaned out the tank and all is good again,it must of only been a little bit of resin that got through the tanks outlet and into the pump...I've not took it apart yet but I will when I get chance
Did you fit a strainer before the pump?
Don’t be silly of course he hasn’t he doesn’t listen to or believe what he’s told 😂😂😂 will end up with the same thing happening again 😂😂😂😂😂
Why will I?as long as I don't get any resin in the tank it'll be fine...🙂👍
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
No idea mate...I cleaned out the tank and all is good again,it must of only been a little bit of resin that got through the tanks outlet and into the pump...I've not took it apart yet but I will when I get chance
Did you fit a strainer before the pump?
No....there's no room to fit a strainer Danny and it's not practical to be fannying around unscrewing
my cabinet checking it every week or so...
There is no resin in the tank now,I spent 3 hours on Friday flushing it out and vacuuming it...
As long as I don't make the same mistake with the resin inlet/outlets again it'll be fine....👍
Sorry to tell you Daz but there is literally zero chance you managed to remove every last bead of resin from the tank. It takes only a single bead to wreck the pump, I know, I made the same mistake.
You need to install a strainer, else your pumps will continue to cease up.
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Time will tell Danny....I even flushed out the tank inlet hose to the pump..I couldn't have been more thorough...
I've never had a single pump problem in 4 years since I had the heater installed so a strainer is not needed,its only when I got resin in the tank that it caused problems
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I wish you the best of luck with it Daz.
(I’d be willing to make a little bet that your new pump will be jammed with resin before the end of the week though.)
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I wish you the best of luck with it Daz.
(I’d be willing to make a little bet that your new pump will be jammed with resin before the end of the week though.)
It would of happened already Danny if there was resin in my tank....
Have a good day mate..
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Surely if you have been sucking resin through the pump and continuing to work like you did won’t the resin have gone into your webasto or through your brush jets?
I would imagine if it’s not come through the jets then it’s likely to have melted somewhere.
Bad electrical connection will throw up weird fault codes on the controller. Pretty sure ps is one of them.
No it's not...PS is pressure switch activated...it comes up ERR when i try autocal which obviously means error
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1640088158_DB689922-FA5F-49DB-ABBF-B79791E656F5.jpeg)
Let’s face it, it would be a massive engineering feat for Dazmond, probably involve a screwdriver and a jubilee clip, lots of photo’s and advice from the internet 🤣
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Well there's summat wrong if you need the cal at 99. Mine's at 49 with cold water and flow at 30.
I can't believe neither Grippa nor you have fitted a strainer!
The V16 is a fantastic controller.
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I run mine without pressure.
Maybe that's the problem?
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Pressure switch....if on pump.
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Thanks Ian.....
Struggled a bit this morning again too...I tried auto cal and it just kept coming up ERR...
Same thing the pump either DE or PS with cycling in between....no continuous flow...finally got it to pump continuously by flow on 46 and CAL on 99(reduced down to 45 once my water was hot)....
Could the pressure switch be faulty?
Once I got it going its been great all day..it dead ends quickly after turning tap off at pole even with very hot water
Hi Dazmond
While PS is displayed the controller will struggle to auto cal this is because the pump is not running. so there is nothing for the controller to detect. A high calibration figure does make it more likely the Pump pressure switch will activate rather than being dead ended by the controller.
The cycling between DE/PS was likely due to the High calibration as the pump pressure would activate on occasion because the controller would be slow to DE at a high Cal value.
Once there was consistent flow at 46 and Cal 45 the controller was working as expected.
As this is a hot system hoses will expand more once there are warm and you may find cal can come down a little more as this will make the controller quicker to DE the pump. A suggestion here is to run auto cal with flow rate set at 46 with the hoses cold.
The reason for doing it with hoses cold is that sets the maximum end of Calibration for the system as the Hoses warm and expand Calibration would be lower. By setting the Cal with cold hoses we give the system some flexibility.
Note the discussion around resin beads. It is a possible cause of pump problems as the beads can block the pump head vane in worst case scenario. That said at the moment as the controller has found the right cal for the flow rate and set that seen im leaning more toward it being a case of setting up with the new pump.
Re a faulty pressure switch its possible you have been unlucky, But again as the system has found its sweetspot that seems unlikely. Have good Christmas/New year Break
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1640088158_DB689922-FA5F-49DB-ABBF-B79791E656F5.jpeg)
Let’s face it, it would be a massive engineering feat for Dazmond, probably involve a screwdriver and a jubilee clip, lots of photo’s and advice from the internet 🤣
says the guy who thought PS was a fault code on a controller...... ::)roll ;D.....clueless springs to mind!
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Thanks Ian.....
Struggled a bit this morning again too...I tried auto cal and it just kept coming up ERR...
Same thing the pump either DE or PS with cycling in between....no continuous flow...finally got it to pump continuously by flow on 46 and CAL on 99(reduced down to 45 once my water was hot)....
Could the pressure switch be faulty?
Once I got it going its been great all day..it dead ends quickly after turning tap off at pole even with very hot water
Hi Dazmond
While PS is displayed the controller will struggle to auto cal this is because the pump is not running. so there is nothing for the controller to detect. A high calibration figure does make it more likely the Pump pressure switch will activate rather than being dead ended by the controller.
The cycling between DE/PS was likely due to the High calibration as the pump pressure would activate on occasion because the controller would be slow to DE at a high Cal value.
Once there was consistent flow at 46 and Cal 45 the controller was working as expected.
As this is a hot system hoses will expand more once there are warm and you may find cal can come down a little more as this will make the controller quicker to DE the pump. A suggestion here is to run auto cal with flow rate set at 46 with the hoses cold.
The reason for doing it with hoses cold is that sets the maximum end of Calibration for the system as the Hoses warm and expand Calibration would be lower. By setting the Cal with cold hoses we give the system some flexibility.
Note the discussion around resin beads. It is a possible cause of pump problems as the beads can block the pump head vane in worst case scenario. That said at the moment as the controller has found the right cal for the flow rate and set that seen im leaning more toward it being a case of setting up with the new pump.
Re a faulty pressure switch its possible you have been unlucky, But again as the system has found its sweetspot that seems unlikely. Have good Christmas/New year Break
thanks ian...very informative as usual!this morning i turned up CAL to 65(flow on 45)when i turned my heater on then turned CAL to 45 when the hoses got warm(15 min drive to my first job)...it was cold first thing this morning
worked like a dream today!the pump is so quiet you cant hear it over the sound of the webasto! :)
i think the pumps fine...just needed tweaking a bit...
all the best to you too ian