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Title: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 04:06:37 pm
 

come the last job of the day and my flow was like the controller was on 30......took me ages to rinse the glass on some windows! ::)roll

ive noticed the pump will not dead end either no matter what i do with the calibration,it just runs and runs!

i connected up a DI vessel the wrong way(first time in 12 years)on tuesday(which was the last day i worked)so ive got a little bit of resin in the bottom of my tank,could i have some clogging up my pump causing this issue?it seems like too much of a coincidence for it not to be(i dont have a pump filter)
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 04:13:48 pm
i had to up my flow to 99 on my 3rd job today as 40 was just not enough,its usually fine,checked calibration and checked for kinks,etc
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: Splash & dash on December 09, 2021, 04:20:21 pm
Don’t you have a filter before your pump ?? If not you should have this will stop this kind of thing from happening, most pump manufacturers insist on a filter before the pump to validate the warranty , sounds like you will have tk take the pump apart and clean out the diaphragms , but if you don’t fit a filter the same thing will happen again with any resin left in the bottom of the tank .
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 04:34:03 pm
Don’t you have a filter before your pump ?? If not you should have this will stop this kind of thing from happening, most pump manufacturers insist on a filter before the pump to validate the warranty , sounds like you will have tk take the pump apart and clean out the diaphragms , but if you don’t fit a filter the same thing will happen again with any resin left in the bottom of the tank .

grippatank fitted my system 4 years ago now and didnt put a strainer before the pump.....ive had bits of resin in my tank for years but never had this  problem before
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: Ian Sheppard on December 09, 2021, 04:35:55 pm
 

come the last job of the day and my flow was like the controller was on 30......took me ages to rinse the glass on some windows! ::)roll

ive noticed the pump will not dead end either no matter what i do with the calibration,it just runs and runs!

i connected up a DI vessel the wrong way(first time in 12 years)on tuesday(which was the last day i worked)so ive got a little bit of resin in the bottom of my tank,could i have some clogging up my pump causing this issue?it seems like too much of a coincidence for it not to be(i dont have a pump filter)

Hi Dazmond

Unfortunately I would have to agree with your assessment. Resin beads in the pump head and blocking the vanes is the most likely cause of the flow rate. When you get chance take the pump head off and clear out the beads. left to long and they can damage the vanes.

The other culprit could be air getting in somewhere.

Cheers
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dd on December 09, 2021, 04:36:55 pm
I thought grippa only fitted your heater.
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: deeege on December 09, 2021, 04:53:09 pm
I did exactly this a few years ago Daz. My system didn’t have a strainer before the pump which is a stupid design.

The only fix is to take the pump apart and clear the beads from the diaphragm. It’s a right pain in the ass job I found.

Personally I’d fit a new strainer and pump, fix the new one when you have a spare hour or two then keep it as a spare.
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: DJW on December 09, 2021, 05:15:02 pm
Dazmond

“Your not a newbie so no explanation is needed mate”  ;D

Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 06:25:56 pm
I did exactly this a few years ago Daz. My system didn’t have a strainer before the pump which is a stupid design.

The only fix is to take the pump apart and clear the beads from the diaphragm. It’s a right pain in the ass job I found.

Personally I’d fit a new strainer and pump, fix the new one when you have a spare hour or two then keep it as a spare.

I've just ordered a new water genie pump which is exactly the same as the one fitted in my heater cabinet....its easy to get to so should be a straight swap out....

The only thing concerning me is the wires going into the bottom of the controller from the pump...I think I'll have to search for  a helpful video on youtube
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 06:27:50 pm
I thought grippa only fitted your heater.

The pump is integrated into the heater cabinet so grippa had to fit the pump too.....no point fitting a heater without the water pump! ;D
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 06:30:26 pm
What I'll have to do is drain my tank then use my wet n dry vac and hoover all the resin beads up in the bottom of my tank....what a pain....

 ::)roll
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 06:44:37 pm
I've just thought my controller wires will have bullet connectors and so will the pump wires so should be an easy swap out
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 06:54:07 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639076006_Screenshot_20211209-185155_Photos.jpg)

That's my pump on the left hand side of my cabinet...
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: deeege on December 09, 2021, 06:58:43 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639076006_Screenshot_20211209-185155_Photos.jpg)

That's my pump on the left hand side of my cabinet...

Give me a headache just looking at that pic tbh Daz. Looks mega complicated compared to my simple cold system.
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: DJW on December 09, 2021, 07:14:22 pm
If it is resin then those pipes will need flushing through thoroughly.
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: Bungle on December 09, 2021, 07:29:11 pm
Come on Dazmond, we need more regular updates than this  :D
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 07:44:23 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639076006_Screenshot_20211209-185155_Photos.jpg)

That's my pump on the left hand side of my cabinet...

Give me a headache just looking at that pic tbh Daz. Looks mega complicated compared to my simple cold system.

It is...... ;D....

The pump looks an easy swap out though Danny....
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 09, 2021, 07:46:42 pm
If it is resin then those pipes will need flushing through thoroughly.

Yeah mate.....I'll be flushing the whole system once I've drained the tank and hoovered up as much resin beads as I can.....
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: deeege on December 09, 2021, 08:48:20 pm
If it is resin then those pipes will need flushing through thoroughly.

Yeah mate.....I'll be flushing the whole system once I've drained the tank and hoovered up as much resin beads as I can.....

Just flushing the system and fitting a strainer will be fine Daz. You’ll be emptying your strainer of resin beads weekly for years to come but they never get through to your pump, atleast mine never have.
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: tlwcs on December 10, 2021, 06:28:49 am
Dazmond

“Your not a newbie so no explanation is needed mate”  ;D
Lol
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 10, 2021, 08:28:21 am
If it is resin then those pipes will need flushing through thoroughly.

Yeah mate.....I'll be flushing the whole system once I've drained the tank and hoovered up as much resin beads as I can.....

Just flushing the system and fitting a strainer will be fine Daz. You’ll be emptying your strainer of resin beads weekly for years to come but they never get through to your pump, atleast mine never have.

I won't be doing that Danny!I'm not taking my reel out every week and unscrewing the cabinet to get to a strainer....I'll clean my tank out properly....my karcher wet and dry vac is very powerful so I'll get all the beads out...
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: deeege on December 10, 2021, 01:43:15 pm
If it is resin then those pipes will need flushing through thoroughly.

Yeah mate.....I'll be flushing the whole system once I've drained the tank and hoovered up as much resin beads as I can.....

Just flushing the system and fitting a strainer will be fine Daz. You’ll be emptying your strainer of resin beads weekly for years to come but they never get through to your pump, atleast mine never have.

I won't be doing that Danny!I'm not taking my reel out every week and unscrewing the cabinet to get to a strainer....I'll clean my tank out properly....my karcher wet and dry vac is very powerful so I'll get all the beads out...

Takes me about 3 seconds to unclip my strainer and flush it. No matter how good you hoover your tank the beads will appear everywhere regardless.  ;D
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: Granny on December 10, 2021, 03:06:41 pm
Dazmond

“Your not a newbie so no explanation is needed mate”  ;D
To quote you Daz
"You should charge your battery up straight after using it every time for maximum longevity....

Your not a newbie so no explanation is needed mate.... :)" ;D
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 19, 2021, 10:33:18 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639953069_Screenshot_20211219-223046_Gallery.jpg)

Hoovered all the resin up in the bottom of my tank,thank god for the karcher wet and dry vac!it's ideal for this job and very powerful
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: DJW on December 19, 2021, 10:57:27 pm
 ;D(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639954639_287240FD-AE56-4525-8D7C-C6266E4EC4C3.jpeg)Loving the health food Daz
Title: Re: pump problems.....resin in pump?
Post by: dazmond on December 20, 2021, 08:16:48 am
;D(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1639954639_287240FD-AE56-4525-8D7C-C6266E4EC4C3.jpeg)Loving the health food Daz

I bought the junk comfort food for the missus mate...obviously the dog treats for the dog.....I can't stand crunchie or toffee crisps!