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Title: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Gringo on August 23, 2021, 04:27:57 pm
Watched a guy clean front of property today trad v slowly, put ladders back on van ,pull out pole and v v slowly wfp door, I could have done 3 or 4 fronts of this type of property in time taken, the way some people work cracks me up, why would you?? Insanity
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: dazmond on August 23, 2021, 06:09:57 pm
Watched a guy clean front of property today trad v slowly, put ladders back on van ,pull out pole and v v slowly wfp door, I could have done 3 or 4 fronts of this type of property in time taken, the way some people work cracks me up, why would you?? Insanity

some window cleaners like to take their time....i know a guy who takes an age to clean a property..each to their own...i tend to splash and dash and off to my next job...
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Gringo on August 23, 2021, 06:37:29 pm
Yes me too but don't know why he didn't use pole for all rather than just the door, can only think he's just got it and hasn't the confidence to use on windows, strange really
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Splash & dash on August 23, 2021, 06:50:01 pm
Is he poling  the back due to windows above a conservatory or something???
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Gringo on August 23, 2021, 07:11:39 pm
No straightforward Job, no conservatory or extension,ladders front and back pole for front door only
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: NBwcs on August 23, 2021, 10:08:14 pm
iv'e got a property where the lady of the house isn't keen on wfp so when i went over to poling 14 yrs ago she agreed to let me do the upstairs  wfp but the downstairs trad. At the time my round wasn't full so was happy to do this rather than lose her  and its just stayed that way. I bet this must look odd to any other windy watching  :)
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: jim bean on August 23, 2021, 10:23:07 pm
iv'e got a property where the lady of the house isn't keen on wfp so when i went over to poling 14 yrs ago she agreed to let me do the upstairs  wfp but the downstairs trad. At the time my round wasn't full so was happy to do this rather than lose her  and its just stayed that way. I bet this must look odd to any other windy watching  :)

I have quite a few of those also . The frames don’t get cleaned properly though as they expect the same price. 50% extra for full trade whole house I charge
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Splash & dash on August 23, 2021, 10:45:35 pm
iv'e got a property where the lady of the house isn't keen on wfp so when i went over to poling 14 yrs ago she agreed to let me do the upstairs  wfp but the downstairs trad. At the time my round wasn't full so was happy to do this rather than lose her  and its just stayed that way. I bet this must look odd to any other windy watching  :)


Don’t understand why ones  invest in wfp  then allow customers to dictate how the windows are cleaned , dump and replace with decent customers, why put up with it , we haven’t traded an outside window since 2005 .
I have quite a few of those also . The frames don’t get cleaned properly though as they expect the same price. 50% extra for full trade whole house I charge
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: jim bean on August 23, 2021, 11:03:14 pm
iv'e got a property where the lady of the house isn't keen on wfp so when i went over to poling 14 yrs ago she agreed to let me do the upstairs  wfp but the downstairs trad. At the time my round wasn't full so was happy to do this rather than lose her  and its just stayed that way. I bet this must look odd to any other windy watching  :)


Don’t understand why ones  invest in wfp  then allow customers to dictate how the windows are cleaned , dump and replace with decent customers, why put up with it , we haven’t traded an outside window since 2005 .
I have quite a few of those also . The frames don’t get cleaned properly though as they expect the same price. 50% extra for full trade whole house I charge
That’s up to you if they were a poop customer then I would? If you’ve had them 5+ years they are a good customer. It takes me the same amount of time trading them and not doing frames pretty much than wfping them
If it’s a good price job and you’ve had it years then it’s not a case of just dumping. I understand some people are absolutely useless at trad and can’t be flexible like others  ;D
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 24, 2021, 08:16:08 am
I'm surprised that twenty years after wfp started to take off in the UK that people are doing any mix and match.

Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: NBwcs on August 24, 2021, 08:28:21 am
I'm surprised that twenty years after wfp started to take off in the UK that people are doing any mix and match.

With me, I think if it were any other customer then I'd give them an ultimatum but this particular ones been with me since I started 17yrs ago and has always been very amiable, her husband always without fail comes outside and chats while I'm working, so I let it ride.
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: dazmond on August 24, 2021, 08:46:26 am
iv'e got a property where the lady of the house isn't keen on wfp so when i went over to poling 14 yrs ago she agreed to let me do the upstairs  wfp but the downstairs trad. At the time my round wasn't full so was happy to do this rather than lose her  and its just stayed that way. I bet this must look odd to any other windy watching  :)

I used to do this for a few properties for a while but over time I just couldn't be arsed walking around with a boab and changing my method just for them so i just swapped them all to wfp...its easier and quicker.

I only have one commercial job that's trad now(ground floor)as wfp is not possible
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 24, 2021, 12:02:10 pm
I'm surprised that twenty years after wfp started to take off in the UK that people are doing any mix and match.

With me, I think if it were any other customer then I'd give them an ultimatum but this particular ones been with me since I started 17yrs ago and has always been very amiable, her husband always without fail comes outside and chats while I'm working, so I let it ride.

As long as the hourly rate is good enough fair enough. Ground floor only of course.
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Simon Trapani on August 24, 2021, 12:20:07 pm
Not for me. Dump!
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Gringo on August 24, 2021, 01:57:29 pm
Yep dump for me, can't be dictated to by custards, like telling plumber don't use that new fangled electric drill can you use the old hand tool method please, madness
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: KS Cleaning on August 24, 2021, 03:02:35 pm
It’s my way or the highway!
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Jay Le Huray on August 24, 2021, 03:30:14 pm
I once had a customer that had a trad cleaner and he could not do the 2 windows above her conservatory  so I ended up doing them for her, about a year later she sacked him and I ended up doing all the windows front and back as she said she preferred the end results with nice clean frames,

sadly she passed away not long ago. 
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: Splash & dash on August 24, 2021, 10:29:49 pm
iv'e got a property where the lady of the house isn't keen on wfp so when i went over to poling 14 yrs ago she agreed to let me do the upstairs  wfp but the downstairs trad. At the time my round wasn't full so was happy to do this rather than lose her  and its just stayed that way. I bet this must look odd to any other windy watching  :)


Don’t understand why ones  invest in wfp  then allow customers to dictate how the windows are cleaned , dump and replace with decent customers, why put up with it , we haven’t traded an outside window since 2005 .
I have quite a few of those also . The frames don’t get cleaned properly though as they expect the same price. 50% extra for full trade whole house I charge
That’s up to you if they were a poop customer then I would? If you’ve had them 5+ years they are a good customer. It takes me the same amount of time trading them and not doing frames pretty much than wfping them
If it’s a good price job and you’ve had it years then it’s not a case of just dumping. I understand some people are absolutely useless at trad and can’t be flexible like others  ;D



I can trad as fast and well as the next guy did it for 7 years before WFP  , but I chose not to carry on with it once I changed over , to be fair I only got rid of a handful of customers as most were fine with it , but I don’t  care how well paid a job is Ime not going to be dictated to by the customer as to how I clean there windows , you wouldn’t tell a mechanic how service  your car , if they don’t like the method I use they are welcome to go else ware , and a few did no big deal , it’s not difficult to replace a small number of customers.
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: jim bean on August 27, 2021, 12:41:02 am
That’s your choice . My work is in villages where they all talk so I keep them happy as possible and keep them all I don’t want to replace them new customers come and go ones you’ve had years you should give a bit of leeway IMO trading bottoms if they’re straightforward no stepladder Etc ain’t a problem
 I’ve well over half the houses in these villages and in one or two nearing all of them
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 27, 2021, 10:44:41 am
That’s your choice . My work is in villages where they all talk so I keep them happy as possible and keep them all I don’t want to replace them new customers come and go ones you’ve had years you should give a bit of leeway IMO trading bottoms if they’re straightforward no stepladder Etc ain’t a problem
 I’ve well over half the houses in these villages and in one or two nearing all of them

I work in villages too. It's only the odd nutter that insists on traditional for the bottoms. They were dumped back in 2007.

Long gone. Do you really think they discuss window cleaning methods with each other?

And who else is going to take over the village doing mix and match because the window cleaner says 'nope, sorry'?
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: jim bean on August 27, 2021, 11:33:35 pm
Yes I’ve probably got 3 or 4 on my whole round it isn’t an issue for me at all rather keep them than get rid just because they would rather me trad the bottoms and I’m not desperate for work at all

In regards to talking I didn’t say anything about cleaning methods haha I was implying if I were to say no I only use pole or it’s this or nothing then you could in turn lose others

I mix and match when it suits anyway if I’m too far out and need to save water so really isn’t a problem I use trad quite often and I quite like a bit of variety

Window cleaners are 10 to a penny round here I’d rather not have them around the villages I work in
Title: Re: Trad and wfp same house
Post by: the king on August 28, 2021, 07:22:52 am
Ive got a job were a trad cleaner does bottoms i clean top dorma with wfp and sky lights  . Who no's what he is up to but who cares as long as he happy  :)