Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: colin bird on July 21, 2021, 07:02:18 am
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Hi thanks for reading,I'm based in West Sussex I price soffits and facias at £3 per metre,at that price I do get a fair few jobs,but when I tell some customers the price they almost fall on the floor.
Why do some customers assume that if there windows are £18 that the whole house soffits and facias will be the same.
Just wondered what your views are .
( not bothered I don't get all priced as to be honest I don't want to do any )
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Are you kidding?
I wouldn’t go anywhere near a facias/soffit clean for less than £50 a side. Often it’s more like £150 for a standard 3 bed semi.
It’s hard work, can be fiddly, takes time so should be priced accordingly…
£3 per meter is unbelievably cheap, in fact I’ve never heard of someone charging so little.
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yeh we had an old chap this week who wanted us to clean his fascias every time we did the windows and baulked at £20 extra for it on a 4 weekly clean (they're very clean).
nobody really has a clue what you should pay for a fascia cleaning.
we charge a £130 min for fascia soffit cleaning and go up from there. some customers are surprised, some aren't, some would happily pay more.
they're a bugger of a job to do and 1 cant do more than 3 or 4 a day without killing myself..
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Are you kidding?
I wouldn’t go anywhere near a facias/soffit clean for less than £50 a side. Often it’s more like £150 for a standard 3 bed semi.
It’s hard work, can be fiddly, takes time so should be priced accordingly…
£3 per meter is unbelievably cheap, in fact I’ve never heard of someone charging so little.
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Just shows how much out of touch I am,maybe they think I'm to cheap that's why there not giving me the go ahead
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yeh we had an old chap this week who wanted us to clean his fascias every time we did the windows and baulked at £20 extra for it on a 4 weekly clean (they're very clean).
nobody really has a clue what you should pay for a fascia cleaning.
we charge a £130 min for fascia soffit cleaning and go up from there. some customers are surprised, some aren't, some would happily pay more
they're a bugger of a job to do and 1 cant do more than 3 or 4 a day without killing myself..
I quoted a job £120 completed in just under two hours which I was happy with,I find it hard on my body now as approaching 60
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yeh we had an old chap this week who wanted us to clean his fascias every time we did the windows and baulked at £20 extra for it on a 4 weekly clean (they're very clean).
nobody really has a clue what you should pay for a fascia cleaning.
we charge a £130 min for fascia soffit cleaning and go up from there. some customers are surprised, some aren't, some would happily pay more
they're a bugger of a job to do and 1 cant do more than 3 or 4 a day without killing myself..
I quoted a job £120 completed in just under two hours which I was happy with,I find it hard on my body now as approaching 60
good going that!
to be honest, our price for the fascias is a bit too cheap IMHO.
i tie it in with my gutter cleaning and so offer them quotes for 3 versions of the job, good, better, and best so we can upsell fascia cleaning with the gutter jobs. it means our average price on gutter cleaning is rather decent, but fascias only (which are are for us) work out underpriced for us
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I am not taking any on for the foreseeable future. I hate doing them , and I have more than enough window cleaning.
I find them to be a ball ache! I am 50 in a couple of months , and just find it too much hastle
The only add on I am doing at the moment is softwashing of render.
easy, good money , and theraputic.
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yes Colin - I would up the price - these are more bespoke work - yearly maybe but more like bi-annual - try to aim for more p/h to compensate for the effort and the effect it has on your day.
Darran
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As someone said, some people have absolutely no Idea what's involved. Lost a long standing custy because she genuinely thought I should do her conny roof as a favour, had another mad woman 1st try to make out the facias was included in the price for doing the windows then offer me a whole fiver extra if I did them, this was a large 4 /5 bed detached. It doesn't help that I know of a local windy who charges as low as £40 for 3 bed detached facia cleans.(were always judged against the cheapest never the dearest) I'm always rather pleased when someone passes on any quote I give for them, it's a job I only do in the rain so it doesn't interfere with the bread and butter of window cleaning and something I'm looking forward to dropping altogether the nearer retirement I get, but still good additional wet day money at the mo so will persevere with it.
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£6 a metre in and out for me.
Barge boards £15 each end.
Bungalows are cheaper. They’re far more enjoyable and easier to do.
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I do a 6 weekly clean £47 he came out a few years ago and said to me if i bacs you an extra 3 quid will you clean the conservatory roof off lol,the annoying thing was he said it with a smile on his face obviously I declined the offer and I still do the windows.
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When you price so much per meter it can work out a lot of money for how easy it can be though,i priced a job like this per meter and it was 100s and 100s tbh once you get going on these jobs you can smash through them and still earn great money.
I would price 3-5 a meter and see what that works out at it’s not long before you’re into a lot of money for little work especially on plastics,10 meters of plastic fascia board for 30 notes with hot water takes literally a few minutes you need to be sensible and certainly if it’s already a good paying customer on windows alone.
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Mr Bullpoop will be along shortly to tell us he charges a minimum of £10 a metre 👍
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Pryors are charging £105 to £120 for 3/4 bed semi.
3/4 bed detatched 120 to £130.
They are in your area.
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Pryors are charging £105 to £120 for 3/4 bed semi.
3/4 bed detatched 120 to £130.
They are in your area.
And that’s about right, some of you are seriously cheap.
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Depends on the state of em tbh. Can be a quick brush over for £40 or a £120 plus if they are minging . Typical 3 bed semi inside and out , down pipes garage door etc = £160
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Pryors are charging £105 to £120 for 3/4 bed semi.
3/4 bed detatched 120 to £130.
They are in your area.
And that’s about right, some of you are seriously cheap.
Is that with or Without VAT?
I rarely price by Meter - I look at the job and time according to time and style of s/f/g
Darran
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yes Colin - I would up the price - these are more bespoke work - yearly maybe but more like bi-annual - try to aim for more p/h to compensate for the effort and the effect it has on your day.
Darran
this is what I have started to understand now that im getting older.
It knackers me out , so for it to be viable it has to be at least double my wc rate ,
where I live this just wont happen .
so I have started giving them a number of someone who focuses more on exterior cleaning.
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I don’t do any for less than £120, it just isn’t worth it. Even at that price I’ve always got 6-10 agreed and ready to do, I find I just can’t be arsed getting round to doing them.
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yes Colin - I would up the price - these are more bespoke work - yearly maybe but more like bi-annual - try to aim for more p/h to compensate for the effort and the effect it has on your day.
Darran
thanks for that darren ,i can normally get £60 ph
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Pryors are charging £105 to £120 for 3/4 bed semi.
3/4 bed detatched 120 to £130.
They are in your area.
i priced two jobs in two days front and back soffits facias one end of house a frame two garage a frames and garage soffits facias back only £120 i reckon two hours not heard from customer
the other one back soffits and facia and two a frames at front £75 reckon i can do it and hours ,not heard from customer,i do feel some customers feel we shouldnt charge especially when they say can you just wipe your brush over
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yes Colin - I would up the price - these are more bespoke work - yearly maybe but more like bi-annual - try to aim for more p/h to compensate for the effort and the effect it has on your day.
Darran
this is what I have started to understand now that im getting older.
It knackers me out , so for it to be viable it has to be at least double my wc rate ,
where I live this just wont happen .
so I have started giving them a number of someone who focuses more on exterior cleaning.
i agrre im 60 this year but not in bad nick,my concern is if you cant do it they will find someone who can and then you may lose the window cleaning
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Are you kidding?
I wouldn’t go anywhere near a facias/soffit clean for less than £50 a side. Often it’s more like £150 for a standard 3 bed semi.
It’s hard work, can be fiddly, takes time so should be priced accordingly…
£3 per meter is unbelievably cheap, in fact I’ve never heard of someone charging so little.
I just make my price up on time itll take me...basically wing it....for existing customers I'll charge as little as £50 for a 3 bed semi if their not too dirty as they take less than an hour including their regular windows so I'm still earning £60-£70 an hour on this work....
I've got one to do next monday afternoon for a customer.they are filthy but they will only take just over an hour to clean once I've sprayed them with virosol hence charging her £92(including her normal window clean price of £12 so £80 for the g/f/s).....
Most of the time my customers refuse my price as they think it's too expensive but I wont clean them any cheaper
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For non window cleaning customers I charge double my normal rate....I very rarely get the job which suits me fine.....😄👍
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I find using my xtreme pole and xtreme standard brush with angle adaptor makes higher g/f/s easier and of course very hot water and virosol if they are dirty.....usually I'll just use hot pure if their not too bad....
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yes Colin - I would up the price - these are more bespoke work - yearly maybe but more like bi-annual - try to aim for more p/h to compensate for the effort and the effect it has on your day.
Darran
this is what I have started to understand now that im getting older.
It knackers me out , so for it to be viable it has to be at least double my wc rate ,
where I live this just wont happen .
so I have started giving them a number of someone who focuses more on exterior cleaning.
i agrre im 60 this year but not in bad nick,my concern is if you cant do it they will find someone who can and then you may lose the window cleaning
Not the case - we do loads of other window cleaners s/f/g cleaning or conservatories - and never pick up the window cleaning (not that I ask mind you) most are very loyal to their windy - and several local guys recommend us for this stuff
You won't get all you quote if you do, then your too cheap and be running around not earning much more than you got for regular straightforward window cleaning - not that s/f/g cleaning is complicated but can wear you out so I aim for double the windy clean rate
Darran
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Crazy the difference in prices north to south,
I charge about £20 per side to clean so £60 for an average 3 bed
Even then i dont get many jobs as most think im too expensive ???
what makes me laugh is people turn their nose up at those prices but happily pay £12 for 10 mins work on their windows....little do they realise i can spank off £50/£60 per hour doing nice easy windows, if only they knew eh ;D
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Crazy the difference in prices north to south,
I charge about £20 per side to clean so £60 for an average 3 bed
Even then i dont get many jobs as most think im too expensive ???
what makes me laugh is people turn their nose up at those prices but happily pay £12 for 10 mins work on their windows....little do they realise i can spank off £50/£60 per hour doing nice easy windows, if only they knew eh ;D
I wouldn’t say it’s a north/south divide tbh. I’m north and charge £120 minimum for 3 beds/3 sides. For £60 I’d rather be getting through my regular window work.
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I don't think it's a north south divide either - confidence and enthusiasm play a part in getting the work at the price you want
Darran
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i actually enjoy seeing the difference it makes to a property cleaning f/s/g jobs esp if their really dirty like the job im doing this afternoon,it makes a change from normal window cleaning although i wouldnt want to be cleaning loads every week...... ;D
regular window cleaning customers that ive had on my books for many years will always get a cheaper add on price compared to a one off customer....its the way things are done up north.....
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There definitely is a North-South divide if there wasn’t you wouldn’t be able to buy a 5 bed detached house with ground for 500k in somewhere like Leeds,you could stick a million on that if you stuck it on the back of a lorry and moved it Deep South.
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I don't think it's a north south divide either - confidence and enthusiasm play a part in getting the work at the price you want
Darran
Yeh but you're not in the North or the South so how would you know ? ;D
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I don't think it's a north south divide either - confidence and enthusiasm play a part in getting the work at the price you want
Darran
It is without doubt confidence.
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I don't think it's a north south divide either - confidence and enthusiasm play a part in getting the work at the price you want
Darran
Yeh but you're not in the North or the South so how would you know ? ;D
This is true - in the east they still thinks the 1970's!! ;D
Darran
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A friend of mine got a 3 bed semi cleaned last week
All fascias and windows, all in £27
I said it would've been £150 at least if I'd been doing the job they just said no one around here would pay that, guess what ,
I don't go around there 😁😁
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You cant compete against junkies.