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Title: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 12, 2021, 01:20:59 pm
Is there such a thing as van tracker that keeps a log of mileage done etc ?

Ive tried numerous mileage logging aps and they dont work properly, they miss trips out etc.

Was thinking about getting a tracker fitted to my van and wondered if i could kill 2 birds with one stone and find something that records all history etc rather than just showing a location?

google isnt beiong very helpfull atm, cant find what i need
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Smudger on July 12, 2021, 02:15:08 pm
Velocity fleet tracks my vehicles

it shows every trip during the day - time taken and milage with totals for that day

Darran
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 12, 2021, 03:57:19 pm
Velocity fleet tracks my vehicles

it shows every trip during the day - time taken and milage with totals for that day

Darran


Thanks

How does it work, not much info on their webiste ? Do you get a tracker fitted by them or is it just an app ?

thanks
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on July 12, 2021, 07:19:04 pm
we use masternaut  for all of our vans , top service  to can do everything , from seeing where the fuel gaage  is to how many times they have opened the rear door  ,

there now doing  full  cams set ups , so not only do they work like dash cams you can logo in to them on your p.c for live footage again depends on how much and what package you go for
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Smudger on July 12, 2021, 08:14:20 pm
yes they fit a tracker

you then access via computer

Darran
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Roy Harding on July 13, 2021, 07:30:16 am
I had Ram tracking fitted about 3 months ago, it cost £420 fitted and no fee's for 3yrs, then £10 a month after.
Keeps track of everything, and holds information for 3yrs.
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Ralphie on July 13, 2021, 08:38:36 am
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 13, 2021, 08:44:41 am
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........


Thought that would be quite obvious, to log business and personal mileage so I can claim and keep a record for HMRC...

Don't really fancy reseting the clock and making a manual mileage log each day. Why use cleaner planner rather than paper.....because it makes life much easier.


Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Ralphie on July 13, 2021, 05:43:46 pm
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........


Thought that would be quite obvious, to log business and personal mileage so I can claim and keep a record for HMRC...

Don't really fancy reseting the clock and making a manual mileage log each day. Why use cleaner planner rather than paper.....because it makes life much easier.

What's HMRC?
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Splash & dash on July 13, 2021, 05:51:17 pm
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........


Thought that would be quite obvious, to log business and personal mileage so I can claim and keep a record for HMRC...

Don't really fancy reseting the clock and making a manual mileage log each day. Why use cleaner planner rather than paper.....because it makes life much easier.

What's HMRC?



😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Matt. on July 13, 2021, 07:20:45 pm
Harry Marge Ronnie and claire

I think they just a few of the neighbours
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Ralphie on July 13, 2021, 07:55:47 pm
Harry Marge Ronnie and claire

I think they just a few of the neighbours

Aaaah, potential customers. :D
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 14, 2021, 04:49:12 pm
So i went with a company called rewire security

£60 for the tracker up front then its £5 per month, no contract PAYG

but if you go on ebay they are selling the tracker for £43 so i ended up ordering one off there  ;)
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Spruce on July 14, 2021, 05:04:10 pm
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........


Thought that would be quite obvious, to log business and personal mileage so I can claim and keep a record for HMRC...

Don't really fancy reseting the clock and making a manual mileage log each day. Why use cleaner planner rather than paper.....because it makes life much easier.

What's HMRC?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 14, 2021, 05:07:08 pm
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........


Thought that would be quite obvious, to log business and personal mileage so I can claim and keep a record for HMRC...

Don't really fancy reseting the clock and making a manual mileage log each day. Why use cleaner planner rather than paper.....because it makes life much easier.

What's HMRC?

Trad ?
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: zesty on July 14, 2021, 05:35:39 pm
Do you worry about being that accurate with your personal to business mileage mate?
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 14, 2021, 08:20:22 pm
Do you worry about being that accurate with your personal to business mileage mate?

Ive just bought a new van and decided not to put in through my company as its attracts a benefit in kind.

Its more tax efficent to pay insurance etc personally then claim the mileage rate of 45p back, hence why i want to log personal and business mileage. But yes i do worry as i like to do everything by the book and cover my back.

Few reasons i want the tracker though, firstly the mileage thing but i would also like to be able to look at how long im on each job during the day to be able to see where i can improve the round. On top of that if i employ again it will be usuefull to have. For a fiver a month i think theres quite  a few benefits to it and thats without mentioning vehicle theft.
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: zesty on July 14, 2021, 08:31:28 pm
That makes more sense, I was assuming you just being ridiculously cautious in your mileage split!

I’d have thought 90% of sole traders who also have personal car as well, never even think to make the split between business and social/domestic travel. I mean my van is almost solely used for work, but there are the odd trip to the shop etc.

In your case it’s very different 👍🏼
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Ched on July 14, 2021, 08:36:26 pm
Do you worry about being that accurate with your personal to business mileage mate?

Ive just bought a new van and decided not to put in through my company as its attracts a benefit in kind.

Its more tax efficent to pay insurance etc personally then claim the mileage rate of 45p back, hence why i want to log personal and business mileage. But yes i do worry as i like to do everything by the book and cover my back.

Few reasons i want the tracker though, firstly the mileage thing but i would also like to be able to look at how long im on each job during the day to be able to see where i can improve the round. On top of that if i employ again it will be usuefull to have. For a fiver a month i think theres quite  a few benefits to it and thats without mentioning vehicle theft.
Do you not want to get the depreciation reduction on your tax bill? Have you run it by an accountant as there might be better ways to reduce your tax bill, plus I think there is something about 130% tax allowance for new plant and machinery at the moment?
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Ralphie on July 15, 2021, 06:50:18 am
Might seem a strange question and totally surprised no one as asked already but why do you need the mileage and track your own vehicle?

Surely you can look at the dial on the dash and know where you are going without tracking yourself?

Just saying like...........


Thought that would be quite obvious, to log business and personal mileage so I can claim and keep a record for HMRC...

Don't really fancy reseting the clock and making a manual mileage log each day. Why use cleaner planner rather than paper.....because it makes life much easier.

What's HMRC?

Trad ?

Whats Trad? :D
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Roy Harding on July 15, 2021, 07:34:16 am
I had a tracker fitted for a few reasons.
First, I have a guy that is going to work a Saturday for me, he kows the van has one fitted. I had a worker 30yrs ago cheated me out of a considerable amount, doing jobs pocketing cash and doing jobs that I did not know about. Also my fault as I was to trusting.

Second, Theft I payed £350 a year to cover equipment in the van. I wont do that now.

Third, knowing how long each job takes.

Fourth, having GPS locations of each job were van was parked. This has been added to jobs sheets for all customers. Anyone can copy and paste in to google maps and drive too the job. On the work sheet there is a discription of what to clean on each job.
I was thinking ahead if droped dead  ;D my family would know were the work is. Also if I wanted to sell or franchise in the future this would be very usefull.
Title: Re: Van tracker that records mileage ?
Post by: Stoots on July 15, 2021, 01:53:04 pm
Do you worry about being that accurate with your personal to business mileage mate?

Ive just bought a new van and decided not to put in through my company as its attracts a benefit in kind.

Its more tax efficent to pay insurance etc personally then claim the mileage rate of 45p back, hence why i want to log personal and business mileage. But yes i do worry as i like to do everything by the book and cover my back.

Few reasons i want the tracker though, firstly the mileage thing but i would also like to be able to look at how long im on each job during the day to be able to see where i can improve the round. On top of that if i employ again it will be usuefull to have. For a fiver a month i think theres quite  a few benefits to it and thats without mentioning vehicle theft.
Do you not want to get the depreciation reduction on your tax bill? Have you run it by an accountant as there might be better ways to reduce your tax bill, plus I think there is something about 130% tax allowance for new plant and machinery at the moment?

The depreciation saved wouldnt offset the BIK rate and extra employers N.I rate.

With mileage if i do 100 miles a week it works out about £200 a month i can take from the company tax free, this would cover my fuel cost, ins, tax and will make some profit on top.

My current van is only cheap so its not worth it, if i was buying a brand new one i would have to do the math again.