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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JandS on June 20, 2021, 04:50:08 pm
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Transit Custom......every time I turn the ignition on the "OIL CHANGE REQUIRED" shows up but goes when I start up......is this a necessity or would it be ok to leave it......it was serviced in November when I bought it and has only done about 2500 miles.....the oil level is fine.
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Leave it....I usually change my oil every year but the garage said no need as I only do 3000 miles a year so I change it every 2 years now...
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relay and boxer + my transit do the same if the garage forget to reel it - google it and it will show you how to cancel the warning
Darran
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Leave it....I usually change my oil every year but the garage said no need as I only do 3000 miles a year so I change it every 2 years now...
good luck with that - its not about mileage Daz
Darran
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Transit Custom......every time I turn the ignition on the "OIL CHANGE REQUIRED" shows up but goes when I start up......is this a necessity or would it be ok to leave it......it was serviced in November when I bought it and has only done about 2500 miles.....the oil level is fine.
Did you check the oil when you bought it to make sure that it had indeed been changed.? There are some unscrupulous dealers out there who make false claims about what work was carried out during the service. My Custom will be 2 years old at the end of July and that is the oil change message just being displayed now, so it seems strange that your oil warning message is coming on after only 7 months
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Leave it....I usually change my oil every year but the garage said no need as I only do 3000 miles a year so I change it every 2 years now...
good luck with that - its not about mileage Daz
Darran
It wont do the van any harm at such low mileage...
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As long as you’re sure the van doesn’t need the oil change, turn the ignition on (don’t start the engine) and then press and hold down the accelerator and brake pedals at the same time for about 30seconds ish.
Personally though, I’d be taking the van into a dealership as the warning light shouldn’t be coming on so soon (assuming the 2500 miles you mention is from new).
If you bought it second hand, there’s a good chance you need to change the oil…
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Leave it....I usually change my oil every year but the garage said no need as I only do 3000 miles a year so I change it every 2 years now...
good luck with that - its not about mileage Daz
Darran
It’s more important to change the oil more frequently with low stop start mileage as it puts far more sulphur into the oil , causing it to go thin and give less protection to the engine , an annual oil change should be done regardless of mileage it’s not expensive for oil and filter change , about an hour and a half’s earnings 😂😂😂😂
It wont do the van any harm at such low mileage...
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Leave it....I usually change my oil every year but the garage said no need as I only do 3000 miles a year so I change it every 2 years now...
good luck with that - its not about mileage Daz
Darran
It’s more important to change the oil more frequently with low stop start mileage as it puts far more sulphur into the oil , causing it to go thin and give less protection to the engine , an annual oil change should be done regardless of mileage it’s not expensive for oil and filter change , about an hour and a half’s earnings 😂😂😂😂
It wont do the van any harm at such low mileage...
Its BS mate....my van uses fully synthetic oil...its good for at least 15000 miles whether its stop/start driving or motorway driving...
I'll listen to the mechanics on this rather than a bunch of window cleaners!
All your doing is wasting money changing oil every year and causing more environmental damage.....
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Leave it....I usually change my oil every year but the garage said no need as I only do 3000 miles a year so I change it every 2 years now...
good luck with that - its not about mileage Daz
Darran
It’s more important to change the oil more frequently with low stop start mileage as it puts far more sulphur into the oil , causing it to go thin and give less protection to the engine , an annual oil change should be done regardless of mileage it’s not expensive for oil and filter change , about an hour and a half’s earnings 😂😂😂😂
It wont do the van any harm at such low mileage...
Its BS mate....my van uses fully synthetic oil...its good for at least 15000 miles whether its stop/start driving or motorway driving...
I'll listen to the mechanics on this rather than a bunch of window cleaners!
All your doing is wasting money changing oil every year and causing more environmental damage.....
Believe what you want but it’s true I was in the motor trade for 16 years , all oils degrade over time and short journeys are far worse that long ones as the engine is not at a stable operating temperature the oil doesn’t give the proper lubrication , and it gets contaminated with sulphur and carbon much faster , but obviously you know best
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Have a read of the last couple of sentences (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1624223063_6EAB849D-B021-44AC-ADE1-ACE7AE184152.png)
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Fully synthetic or not oil should be changed at mileage or time whichever is soonest - and that's only if it's the correct rate - which most garages don't use.
But Daz - it's your choice, but as you are planning t keep the van for a long time I would have thought £60 extra a year to safeguard the turbo alone would have been a worthwhile cost.
Darran
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I would change the oil and filter unless your 100 percent shore its already been done
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Fully synthetic or not oil should be changed at mileage or time whichever is soonest - and that's only if it's the correct rate - which most garages don't use.
But Daz - it's your choice, but as you are planning t keep the van for a long time I would have thought £60 extra a year to safeguard the turbo alone would have been a worthwhile cost.
Darran
If you have one of the current Boxers and Relays since 2007 the service interval can't be reset using the driver's controls. It has to be done by Peugeot or Citroen's computer program. All we can do is cancel the warning as you say. I don't think the majority of non dealer workshops have scan tools that will reset the service interval either.
However, from what I hear Ford and VW have had their ECU's well and truly 'hacked' and most of what dealers can do can be done by DIYers.
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Makes no difference how many miles you do a year to a degree I would change it every year at least on a new van,on a older van you want to change it every 8-10000 and fuel filter every other change.
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Makes no difference how many miles you do a year to a degree I would change it every year at least on a new van,on a older van you want to change it every 8-10000 and fuel filter every other change.
Again this is rubbish.....garage said fuel filter is good for at least 90,000 miles....absolutely no need to change them on a ford for a very long time,they are long life filters....I might get mine done when van reaches 10 years old though...
Again I'll listen to the mechanics not window cleaners!
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How many times did you used to hear people say that a Diesel engine or that particular Diesel engine will go on and on for years the same used to be said for Honda petrol engines,they only keep going if you look after them and service them regularly. An oil change is cheap for most vans and the oil is its blood 2 years is a long time between changing if you’ve done hardly any miles or lots of miles.
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Makes no difference how many miles you do a year to a degree I would change it every year at least on a new van,on a older van you want to change it every 8-10000 and fuel filter every other change.
Again this is rubbish.....garage said fuel filter is good for at least 90,000 miles....absolutely no need to change them on a ford for a very long time,they are long life filters....I might get mine done when van reaches 10 years old though...
Again I'll listen to the mechanics not window cleaners!
Who is telling you this is it a main dealer or some back street garage , as what they are telling you is wrong , I was speaking to a service manager of a local ford dealership today and told him what you said in your post last night he said low mileage vehicles should have an annual oil change , it’s obviously up to you as it’s your van but for long reliable life of the engine it should be done same with 3 yearly brake fluid changes it’s not mileage related but time . Again it’s only £60-100 which Ime sure you can well afford it’s false economy not to do it in my books .
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Makes no difference how many miles you do a year to a degree I would change it every year at least on a new van,on a older van you want to change it every 8-10000 and fuel filter every other change.
Again this is rubbish.....garage said fuel filter is good for at least 90,000 miles....absolutely no need to change them on a ford for a very long time,they are long life filters....I might get mine done when van reaches 10 years old though...
Again I'll listen to the mechanics not window cleaners!
Who is telling you this is it a main dealer or some back street garage , as what they are telling you is wrong , I was speaking to a service manager of a local ford dealership today and told him what you said in your post last night he said low mileage vehicles should have an annual oil change , it’s obviously up to you as it’s your van but for long reliable life of the engine it should be done same with 3 yearly brake fluid changes it’s not mileage related but time . Again it’s only £60-100 which Ime sure you can well afford it’s false economy not to do it in my books .
ive never changed brake fluid either on any vehicle ive ever had in 32 years of driving!its BS....its just not needed.....
i suppose next your gonna say you need to flush the coolant system every few years too....again ive never done this either..... ;D
all the main dealership garages will try and get you to change your oil every 3000 miles as its more work for them
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People who do little mileage should still change their oil regular if you travel little distance to the first job the oil will hardly get up to temperature,do this every day of the week you may as well stick ice cubes in with the oil lol do most of you actually get the van up to 90-95 degrees during the day with the little miles you do 🤣🤣
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Brake fluid should be changed every 3 years as it’s hydroscopic and absorbed water , and yes coolant should also be changed every couple of year and system flushed to remove sludge that forms , for someone earning 50k per year you seam a right tight wad 😂😂😂 none on theses things cost more than an hours earnings , you obviously don’t have any mechanical knowledge as anyone who has will tell you the same .
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Makes no difference how many miles you do a year to a degree I would change it every year at least on a new van,on a older van you want to change it every 8-10000 and fuel filter every other change.
Again this is rubbish.....garage said fuel filter is good for at least 90,000 miles....absolutely no need to change them on a ford for a very long time,they are long life filters....I might get mine done when van reaches 10 years old though...
Again I'll listen to the mechanics not window cleaners!
Who is telling you this is it a main dealer or some back street garage , as what they are telling you is wrong , I was speaking to a service manager of a local ford dealership today and told him what you said in your post last night he said low mileage vehicles should have an annual oil change , it’s obviously up to you as it’s your van but for long reliable life of the engine it should be done same with 3 yearly brake fluid changes it’s not mileage related but time . Again it’s only £60-100 which Ime sure you can well afford it’s false economy not to do it in my books .
And it’s tax deductible so depending on which tax band you’re in, the cost in real terms is a lot less.
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Hang on I’ve just read that again Daz a fuel filter is good for 90k miles 🤣🤣🤣 what a complete load of 💩 that is and I can assure you that is nonsense m8,I had major issues years ago so much so I changed the air mass meter and other sensors etc it was all down to a clogged fuel filter as soon as the fuel filter was changed it drove like a new van.
I was advised to change the fuel filter every other service and it drives way different after the fuel filter change,i also always use premium diesel I never use the cheaper one.
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Hang on I’ve just read that again Daz a fuel filter is good for 90k miles 🤣🤣🤣 what a complete load of 💩 that is and I can assure you that is nonsense m8,I had major issues years ago so much so I changed the air mass meter and other sensors etc it was all down to a clogged fuel filter as soon as the fuel filter was changed it drove like a new van.
I was advised to change the fuel filter every other service and it drives way different after the fuel filter change,i also always use premium diesel I never use the cheaper one.
You are wasting your breath he’s not going to listen and that’s his choice I just feel sorry for anyone that buys his cast offs as they will be the ones picking up the problems .
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No wonder your old kangoo fell apart Daz
Not to worry we’re just a bunch of no nothing window cleaners ;D
Darran
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People who do little mileage should still change their oil regular if you travel little distance to the first job the oil will hardly get up to temperature,do this every day of the week you may as well stick ice cubes in with the oil lol do most of you actually get the van up to 90-95 degrees during the day with the little miles you do 🤣🤣
NWH , modern oils are very thin as the engines require it , they still lubricate very well when cold so temp is not a massive issue .
I would still change it every year personally , just for peace of mind .
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My last van I had for 10 years and never once changed the brake fluid.
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No wonder your old kangoo fell apart dad
Not to worry we’re just a bunch of no nothing window cleaners ;D
Darran
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My last van I had for 10 years and never once changed the brake fluid.
All decent garages should check the brake fluid with a hydrometer to see what the water content is and change when it reaches a certain level , you will notice a huge difference in the brake pedal movement if it hasn’t been changed for years when you do change it .
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Hang on I’ve just read that again Daz a fuel filter is good for 90k miles 🤣🤣🤣 what a complete load of 💩 that is and I can assure you that is nonsense m8,I had major issues years ago so much so I changed the air mass meter and other sensors etc it was all down to a clogged fuel filter as soon as the fuel filter was changed it drove like a new van.
I was advised to change the fuel filter every other service and it drives way different after the fuel filter change,i also always use premium diesel I never use the cheaper one.
ive just checked the ford manual and it is indeed 90k miles interval for a fuel filter for my connect van.....ill never reach 90 k miles even if i keep the van for 15 years! ;D
i also never drive around with low fuel...i always fill up when i get down to a quarter of a tank......
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No wonder your old kangoo fell apart dad
Not to worry we’re just a bunch of no nothing window cleaners ;D
Darran
the kangoo didnt fall apart....i had it for a few years and sold it on cos i needed a bigger tank.....it was 14 year old with 126k on the clock when i sold it.....gearbox was a bit dodgy though! ;D
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Hang on I’ve just read that again Daz a fuel filter is good for 90k miles 🤣🤣🤣 what a complete load of 💩 that is and I can assure you that is nonsense m8,I had major issues years ago so much so I changed the air mass meter and other sensors etc it was all down to a clogged fuel filter as soon as the fuel filter was changed it drove like a new van.
I was advised to change the fuel filter every other service and it drives way different after the fuel filter change,i also always use premium diesel I never use the cheaper one.
You are wasting your breath he’s not going to listen and that’s his choice I just feel sorry for anyone that buys his cast offs as they will be the ones picking up the problems .
really?its not as if i dont get the oil changed fairly regularly....its more like 18 months than 2 years but its not bang on 12 months every year as theres no point doing such little mileage....
brakes and tyres get replaced when needed and any other little things that need doing,i will get the cambelt replaced after 10 years most probably....
even at 10 years old my van will only have 30k-35k on the clock!
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Why do people have such an infatuation with milage?
If I were buying a van and saw it was owned by a window cleaner, I’d be steering clear unless it was an absolute gem.
Van’s close to it’s payload limit most days, stop start driving, too cheap to maintain it and probably had a few hundred litres of water spilt in the back over the years…keep your milage, I’m going elsewhere ;D
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Why do people have such an infatuation with milage?
If I were buying a van and saw it was owned by a window cleaner, I’d be steering clear unless it was an absolute gem.
Van’s close to it’s payload limit most days, stop start driving, too cheap to maintain it and probably had a few hundred litres of water spilt in the back over the years…keep your milage, I’m going elsewhere ;D
i get where your coming from mate.......
however if you have a van from new then obviously the low mileage over the years will mean less wear and tear overall compared to someone who does 15k miles a year.....my van with have around 15k on the clock by jan next year and itll be 5 years old.....
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Oil and filter change each year for me.
Renault traffic that’s 4 year olds with 25,000 on the clock.
I’m also starting to do gearbox oil changes regular now too.
At the price of vans at the moment I’ll do what I can to run it as long as I can. It’s pennies for a full service once a year, when without our vans we can’t earn a penny.
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No wonder your old kangoo fell apart dad
Not to worry we’re just a bunch of no nothing window cleaners ;D
Darran
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oops,
this auto correct thing is going too far ;D
Have now corrected the error
Darran
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Oil and filter change each year for me.
Renault traffic that’s 4 year olds with 25,000 on the clock.
I’m also starting to do gearbox oil changes regular now too.
At the price of vans at the moment I’ll do what I can to run it as long as I can. It’s pennies for a full service once a year, when without our vans we can’t earn a penny.
gearbox oil change?really?
ive never done this either on any vehicle(van or car)ive ever had in 32 years of driving......
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Oil and filter change each year for me.
Renault traffic that’s 4 year olds with 25,000 on the clock.
I’m also starting to do gearbox oil changes regular now too.
At the price of vans at the moment I’ll do what I can to run it as long as I can. It’s pennies for a full service once a year, when without our vans we can’t earn a penny.
gearbox oil change?really?
ive never done this either on any vehicle(van or car)ive ever had in 32 years of driving......
Gearbox oil changes on my Ranger are pretty important if you want them to last, otherwise, bits start falling off.
Both gearboxes need the Auto Transmission Fluid fluid changing about every 50k or few years - despite being manual.
If you have anything Automatic then 40-60k or five years is very important even though the dealers will tell you, "it's sealed for life Sir", and then charge you about £3,000 for a new gearbox.
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Oil and oil filter changed 12/11/20 and just double checked mileage and it's just about 2000 miles.
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Bobbed into the local mechanics I use regularly today and they said no way oil change at that mileage....they said whoever carried out the service prior to me buying the van had not reset the oil change warning thingy.