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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Haz on May 21, 2021, 08:58:56 pm
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Mod note: Away you go! ;D
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Sounds like advertising to me.
Not tested?
Expensive with delivery.
Would need more details before purchasing.
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Sorry Haz if I sounded harsh.
Not ment.
Just a little sceptical.
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You’re a harsh person Rob.Hall. Remind never to answer the phone to you again ;D
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You’re a harsh person Rob.Hall. Remind never to answer the phone to you again ;D
😁
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Haz, seems to me you’re a chancer. Looking back through your old posts it seems you like to think of yourself as someone who has a few irons in the fire, a bit of a Del-Boy. You’re very opinionated about how you see window cleaning moving and changing with the times.
Thing is I doubt many on here will agree with you, most have seen it all before, through recessions, through thick and thin, we’ve all seen starters thinking they can make a success of window cleaning, when given a bit of time they fall by the wayside.
Where are you based, what’s your business address?
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This product is going to save window cleaners money, try 1 bag and become addicted.
Sounds like top quality gear ;D
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Haz, seems to me you’re a chancer. Looking back through your old posts it seems you like to think of yourself as someone who has a few irons in the fire, a bit of a Del-Boy. You’re very opinionated about how you see window cleaning moving and changing with the times.
Thing is I doubt many on here will agree with you, most have seen it all before, through recessions, through thick and thin, we’ve all seen starters thinking they can make a success of window cleaning, when given a bit of time they fall by the wayside.
Where are you based, what’s your business address?
And i dont need acceptance from u or anyone on here im just letting people know that this resin will save people money , thats the whole purpose of the post , i dont care if people doubt me ... i been doubted all my life... never bothered me , infact it helps .. i do have a 8 van fleet serving over 3,000 regular customers within the space of 8-9 years so u dont need to talk to me about success regarding a window cleaning business
Not wanting to be a dick Haz, but in January 2020 you posted:-
“Like i said im still only a 1 man band but i do know that ive earnt more money working as a 1 man band then i would for anyone else so that is a big achievement to me ;D i also have other sources of income other than window cleaning ;) so yes i have my own achievements but im not willing to discuss them on a sheety public forum ;D ;)”
So I’m left wondering...are you a one man band or do you have an 8 van fleet?
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Haz, seems to me you’re a chancer. Looking back through your old posts it seems you like to think of yourself as someone who has a few irons in the fire, a bit of a Del-Boy. You’re very opinionated about how you see window cleaning moving and changing with the times.
Thing is I doubt many on here will agree with you, most have seen it all before, through recessions, through thick and thin, we’ve all seen starters thinking they can make a success of window cleaning, when given a bit of time they fall by the wayside.
Where are you based, what’s your business address?
And i dont need acceptance from u or anyone on here im just letting people know that this resin will save people money , thats the whole purpose of the post , i dont care if people doubt me ... i been doubted all my life... never bothered me , infact it helps .. i do have a 8 van fleet serving over 3,000 regular customers within the space of 8-9 years so u dont need to talk to me about success regarding a window cleaning business
Not wanting to be a dick Haz, but in January 2020 you posted:-
“Like i said im still only a 1 man band but i do know that ive earnt more money working as a 1 man band then i would for anyone else so that is a big achievement to me ;D i also have other sources of income other than window cleaning ;) so yes i have my own achievements but im not willing to discuss them on a sheety public forum ;D ;)”
So I’m left wondering...are you a one man band or do you have an 8 van fleet?
Been a good year.
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I can smell something...and it's not resin!
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Haz, seems to me you’re a chancer. Looking back through your old posts it seems you like to think of yourself as someone who has a few irons in the fire, a bit of a Del-Boy. You’re very opinionated about how you see window cleaning moving and changing with the times.
Thing is I doubt many on here will agree with you, most have seen it all before, through recessions, through thick and thin, we’ve all seen starters thinking they can make a success of window cleaning, when given a bit of time they fall by the wayside.
Where are you based, what’s your business address?
Haha when it comes to business im on the ball my friend ;) all u need to know is that my product will take Tulsion/Unger/Indion/Ionics of the top spot and my resin will become the best valued resin the UK , my product will be very good for window cleaners but not good for the other main resin suppliers etc due to the high quality product at a low cost that i am offering :)
And i dont need acceptance from u or anyone on here im just letting people know that this resin will save people money , thats the whole purpose of the post , i dont care if people doubt me ... i been doubted all my life... never bothered me , infact it helps me... i do have a 8 van fleet serving over 3,000 regular customers within the space of 8-9 years so u dont need to talk to me about success regarding a window cleaning business ;D i know the ingredients that are required for success and i possess all them ingredients :-*
I am only taking on 3/4 wholesalers/suppliers who are to stock my resin to begin with, but there is now a waiting list for suppliers as i have enough on board.. had a lot more enquiries than i anticipated.
People best start saying goodbye to Tulsion resin cos once this fine resin hits the market people will forget what Tulsion resin is ;) lol
Im not a chancer either mate im 100% entrepreneurial material , hope that helps
So, what’s your business address?
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IF it's cheaper and works as well as the other de-min resins on the market, it's reliable regarding delivery and availability what isn't there to like? the proof is obviously in the pudding so only time will tell. But if it's all it claims to be you'll all be ordering it surly?
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Haz, seems to me you’re a chancer. Looking back through your old posts it seems you like to think of yourself as someone who has a few irons in the fire, a bit of a Del-Boy. You’re very opinionated about how you see window cleaning moving and changing with the times.
Thing is I doubt many on here will agree with you, most have seen it all before, through recessions, through thick and thin, we’ve all seen starters thinking they can make a success of window cleaning, when given a bit of time they fall by the wayside.
Where are you based, what’s your business address?
Haha when it comes to business im on the ball my friend ;) all u need to know is that my product will take Tulsion/Unger/Indion/Ionics of the top spot and my resin will become the best valued resin the UK , my product will be very good for window cleaners but not good for the other main resin suppliers etc due to the high quality product at a low cost that i am offering :)
And i dont need acceptance from u or anyone on here im just letting people know that this resin will save people money , thats the whole purpose of the post , i dont care if people doubt me ... i been doubted all my life... never bothered me , infact it helps me... i do have a 8 van fleet serving over 3,000 regular customers within the space of 8-9 years so u dont need to talk to me about success regarding a window cleaning business ;D i know the ingredients that are required for success and i possess all them ingredients :-*
I am only taking on 3/4 wholesalers/suppliers who are to stock my resin to begin with, but there is now a waiting list for suppliers as i have enough on board.. had a lot more enquiries than i anticipated.
People best start saying goodbye to Tulsion resin cos once this fine resin hits the market people will forget what Tulsion resin is ;) lol
Im not a chancer either mate im 100% entrepreneurial material , hope that helps
So, what’s your business address?
http://www.teessidewindowcleaning.co.uk/
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All you are doing Haz is selling a cheaper, lower quality grade of resin.
Daqua also sells MB400 as well as MB115. MB400 is much cheaper than MB115.
You are starting to sound like Richard from Tecbuk who tried to raise the profile of the brushes he was making and selling by rubbishing those of the established competition.
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Haz, seems to me you’re a chancer. Looking back through your old posts it seems you like to think of yourself as someone who has a few irons in the fire, a bit of a Del-Boy. You’re very opinionated about how you see window cleaning moving and changing with the times.
Thing is I doubt many on here will agree with you, most have seen it all before, through recessions, through thick and thin, we’ve all seen starters thinking they can make a success of window cleaning, when given a bit of time they fall by the wayside.
Where are you based, what’s your business address?
Haha when it comes to business im on the ball my friend ;) all u need to know is that my product will take Tulsion/Unger/Indion/Ionics of the top spot and my resin will become the best valued resin the UK , my product will be very good for window cleaners but not good for the other main resin suppliers etc due to the high quality product at a low cost that i am offering :)
And i dont need acceptance from u or anyone on here im just letting people know that this resin will save people money , thats the whole purpose of the post , i dont care if people doubt me ... i been doubted all my life... never bothered me , infact it helps me... i do have a 8 van fleet serving over 3,000 regular customers within the space of 8-9 years so u dont need to talk to me about success regarding a window cleaning business ;D i know the ingredients that are required for success and i possess all them ingredients :-*
I am only taking on 3/4 wholesalers/suppliers who are to stock my resin to begin with, but there is now a waiting list for suppliers as i have enough on board.. had a lot more enquiries than i anticipated.
People best start saying goodbye to Tulsion resin cos once this fine resin hits the market people will forget what Tulsion resin is ;) lol
Im not a chancer either mate im 100% entrepreneurial material , hope that helps
So, what’s your business address?
Why am i gonna give u my business address on a public forum
If u want info give me your number and we can talk properly 👍
I dont list addresses etc on public forums sorry
You have a Facebook and internet presence which is open to public viewing.
I have no problem with a window cleaner advertising that he now is supplying a certain product - a business add on.
However, when you blatantly say;
MB400 is way better than MB115... the cost is very cheap considering its mb400... :o
Resin cost has been going up for years... is this the year that resin prices stop increasing ?
My next question is; have you got facts and studies to back your statement up?
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I can smell something...and it's not resin!
Van 9 will be going on the road in October 8)
All i can smell is oil from the vans
You shouldn't really be able to smell oil from vans. You should get that looked at.
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All you are doing Haz is selling a cheaper, lower quality grade of resin.
Daqua also sells MB400 as well as MB115. MB400 is much cheaper than MB115.
You are starting to sound like Richard from Tecbuk who tried to raise the profile of the brushes he was making and selling by rubbishing those of the established competition.
Wow not at all :D you are clueless Mr old man :D
Purolite resin mb400 is over £100 per bag so get your facts right !!
My resin is mb400 !! Not low grade at all !!
Daqua mb400 is not cheap go check it out???
Stop hating u jelous old man ... this resin is better than mb-115 from Tulsion ;D ;D i produce more pure water in 1 week than u do in 1 yeae so stop trying to put me and my new venture down
Ive used more resin in my 9 years than u have in your 30 years, all the resin comes from Pakistan / India i have family here so i obviously can get it cheap and bring it here and save people money?
So whats the problem ?? Cant stand a young asian lad doing well ?
Once people buy 1 bag they will happily come back to but more :)
Infact come and see me instead of being jelous over a keyboard
Your the same age as my father and your hating on me 😂😂
Loserrr
Lol there’s a decent fella to be doing business with.
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Because the resin comes from Pakistan and you have family here does that mean they bring it here as hand luggage?
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I think you might just have alienated quite a lot of potential customers already with your unprofessional attitude. I would rather pay an extra £10-15 than do business with you. I’m out, good luck.
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Because the resin comes from Pakistan and you have family here does that mean they bring it here as hand luggage?
Slacky your profile picture reminds me of something funny I saw in the barber shop the other day ;D
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Because the resin comes from Pakistan and you have family here does that mean they bring it here as hand luggage?
Slacky your profile picture reminds me of something funny I saw in the barber shop the other day ;D
A Turkish barber shop by any chance?
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Because the resin comes from Pakistan and you have family here does that mean they bring it here as hand luggage?
Slacky your profile picture reminds me of something funny I saw in the barber shop the other day ;D
A Turkish barber shop by any chance?
Kurdish shop. five cotton buds on sticks dipped in hot wax and pushed up the hose when wax is hard there yanked out along with all nasal hairs :o
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Jeepers! Never heard of that, I can imagine though.....
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Pretty sure Haz is legit in terms of having multiple vans. I remember seeing his posts on the other forum, think hes up north east way.
And yes he does come across as a Del-boy type ;D
As for the resin ive no idea
To quote a post from Doug Atkinson (Daqua)
"MB-115 is a 60/40 resin and MB-111 a 50/50 resin mix of Cation/ Anion. Depending on water quality some may find MB-111 or perform well if your water structure is closer to MB-111.
Purolite MB-400 is 60/40 mix but is a lot higher priced. Some have found this under performs MB-115 and some find it works for them."
Guess only way to find out is try it.
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Just when you think CIU is getting boring, this little gem is served up.
Haven’t laughed so much for ages!
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Hello Haz,
Any chance of behaving with a bit more decorum please.
Thanks.
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Hello Haz,
Any chance of behaving with a bit more decorum please.
Thanks.
Tell @spruce to stop judging my product without even seeing/using it , maybe if he wasnt so evil eyed then this would not be a problem mate??
I mean the guy should of asked for a sample but nooo he cant stand my presence... in his years of living hes seen that the taxis have been taken over by us... the corner shops.. the takeaways etc , the window cleaning scene in his area is going down the same route as the above now the UK resin scene is going down that route aswell
The guy lives local to me and he obviously cant stand my presence in the window cleaning industry so thats his own problem not my problem
That’s difference between you and us, we would never go to another country and speak like that.
Perhaps that’s why you all come over here. To run away from the disrespectful attitudes. Only to continue in here in the U.K.
You’re not doing yourself any favours. No one on here is going to buy anything from you with a disgusting attitude like that.
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Hi Haz,
personally I don't buy resin myself as I buy my pure water from a unit, however
reading through all the threads it appears to me that instead of promoting your resin business you appear to be going in the opposite direction and alienating yourself from potential customers?
you need to re-think about the way you promote your business because this is clearly not working for you
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The problem is Haz that you have reacted quickly to criticism and come back with a comment about not wanting an Asian lad to succeed.
Now I don't know about what has gone on locally to you and between you and another poster local to you but you have drawn that inference about your race/nationality before anyone else mentioned it.
Down here in Bristol, Asians run four of the local rank of six shops near me. Good luck to them as all I see is a hard work ethic over long hours presented politely and professionally. My neighbour is from Bulgaria and runs a facilities company. Opposite is a Romanian vet.
We all get on fine and they are all younger than me. Don't rise to the bait and don't see ghosts which may not be there.
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Haz, just because other people are not supporting you it doesn't mean you should reply in a non professional way. The best approach is to let your product do the talking. By this I mean you have extensively tested your resin against others and, in your tests yours is better? I don't have a problem with that as a statement but the way to get people on board is to prove you are right.
Maybe post what tests you have carried out and what the results were i.e. you tds going in, tds, out flow rate, pressure, volume of resin vessel, and show the tds output curves vs volume.
The bottom line is everyone who uses resin wants the cheapest resin cost per 1000 litres that gives them 0 tds. If you can show that yours is cheaper using data and keep your interactions professional no matter what you think of others replies then I am sure you will make a fortune.
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well... I was very interested .
but after what I have just read , its a no thank you.
shocking behaviour and speech. no room for it in my life
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Hi Haz,
personally I don't buy resin myself as I buy my pure water from a unit, however
reading through all the threads it appears to me that instead of promoting your resin business you appear to be going in the opposite direction and alienating yourself from potential customers?
you need to re-think about the way you promote your business because this is clearly not working for you
If people want to use me they can if not they dont have to mate , i got a few aquarium contracts lined up and a few pure water sites already.. @spruce is out of order and we have history if u read the posts properly.
If someones trying to knock me down i will defend myself
defend yourself by all means MATE, but do it in a professional manner and don't get so aggresive
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Just to let you know Haz, based only on your bewildering responses on this thread..... there's more chance of you catching viral gout than me ever purchasing resin from you! I'm out! Innit.😎
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Would it be cheaper if you were to buy 5 bags or more?
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Haz, just because other people are not supporting you it doesn't mean you should reply in a non professional way. The best approach is to let your product do the talking. By this I mean you have extensively tested your resin against others and, in your tests yours is better? I don't have a problem with that as a statement but the way to get people on board is to prove you are right.
Maybe post what tests you have carried out and what the results were i.e. you tds going in, tds, out flow rate, pressure, volume of resin vessel, and show the tds output curves vs volume.
The bottom line is everyone who uses resin wants the cheapest resin cost per 1000 litres that gives them 0 tds. If you can show that yours is cheaper using data and keep your interactions professional no matter what you think of others replies then I am sure you will make a fortune.
Yes i totally 100% agree in what you are saying but Spruce clearly knows hnow i am and hes clearly done this to get my reaction out of me and its clearly worked ;D but at the end of the day i got a personal problem with him and i shouldnt be showing it on a forum yes i understand but it is what it is.
Ive done my tests and this resin does last longer, im not going by measurements but once people go through 1 bag they will 100% want more :)
As an engineer I do like numbers. If you had data - independently tested data that showed your resin lasted say 10% longer than 'the leading brands' then that is a massive selling point, huge. It also is a great way to prove the doubters wrong. Scientific proof of something by an independent test body is unbeatable.
Look at the Fairy liquid adverts - 'lasts 50% longer than any other brand'. Persil complained to Advertising Standards and Fairy's claim was proven, just look at the good publicity they got!!!
Good luck and stay professional, that will help you so much, rise above.
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Would it be cheaper if you were to buy 5 bags or more?
The more bags you purchase the more i can look after u yes
I have just been on your page, i look forward to placing my first order with u when it becomes available of course.
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Yes, it’s all Spuce’s fault.
I hate the way he is so knowledgeable, happy to share and explain things as he sees them.
Shocking.
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Interesting thread and some eye opening responses ...
To Haz - thats great you have brought a new product to market - I haven't looked at resin for a few years but back then I was informed by several suppliers that MB400 was not the one to go for when using to polish of water - now you "claim" its better than everyone else's product and tested it - can you put up some figures for comparison please
Darran
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If I purchased a bag of your resin and had a problem with delivery, or perhaps a problem with the product, I feel I already know the response i'm going to get if I complained!
It does put me off a bit!
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Yes, it’s all Spuce’s fault.
I hate the way he is so knowledgeable, happy to share and explain things as he sees them.
Shocking.
This is what he written about me...
However, IMO that's easy for us to say as we are white people. This chap isn't and race prejudice is still a real issue in this area, even although he talks with a Teesside accent.
So he will be 'forced' to try different marketing techniques that don't make sense to us as the accepted race.
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This guy is judging me by the colour of my skin.. as u can see above ::)roll
? Huh - to me that looks like someone defending you....
Darran
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The problem is Haz that you have reacted quickly to criticism and come back with a comment about not wanting an Asian lad to succeed.
Now I don't know about what has gone on locally to you and between you and another poster local to you but you have drawn that inference about your race/nationality before anyone else mentioned it.
Down here in Bristol, Asians run four of the local rank of six shops near me. Good luck to them as all I see is a hard work ethic over long hours presented politely and professionally. My neighbour is from Bulgaria and runs a facilities company. Opposite is a Romanian vet.
We all get on fine and they are all younger than me. Don't rise to the bait and don't see ghosts which may not be there.
For the record I have no issue with Haz and I'm not a hater of him or of anyone else of his race or any other race for that matter. He operates in a totally different area to myself so neither of us are in competition with each other. The first time and last time we met each other was at the NVQ training course. And yes, I have no idea who got an NVQ certificate or who didn't on that course.
From a business perspective some things he says on the forum about his business don't make sense to me. I once queried the amount of water he says he uses a day for the number of vans he has on the road as the figures he quoted didn't make sense to me. I commented about it and got the old response of being clueless.
I didn't take that to heart.
I purely asked for proof of his statement about MB400 being better than MB115. Where the hater came from and the flashing up of the race card I have no idea.
Again just for the record, we know there was a shortage of resin recently and I had a wait for a shipment. I was looking around at the time for another source. When Haz posted his post my first thought was; "Goodie, another supplier I could tap if resin was an issue in the future, and on my doorstep as well."
Over the years I have heard salesmen hype their product up to get a sale. I'm the first one to ask for proof of the statements they make.
Haz, I'm sorry if you have taken my postings as having a hatred for you. I haven't. In fact, I have the utmost admiration for the way you have grown your business even if you run it in an unconventional (to me) manner. To add; if I spotted you working opposite me in a road, I would stop and have a chat to you the same as I do with any cleaner I see. I personally don't have an issue with you at all.
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Yes, it’s all Spuce’s fault.
I hate the way he is so knowledgeable, happy to share and explain things as he sees them.
Shocking.
This is what he written about me...
However, IMO that's easy for us to say as we are white people. This chap isn't and race prejudice is still a real issue in this area, even although he talks with a Teesside accent.
So he will be 'forced' to try different marketing techniques that don't make sense to us as the accepted race.
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This guy is judging me by the colour of my skin.. as u can see above ::)roll
? Huh - to me that looks like someone defending you....
Darran
Thank you Darran. And that was exactly my sentiments when I wrote it. He has to work much harder to market his business than I do as a white person.
I know what race prejudice is because I grew up with it in Africa. I have also experienced the comments here to go back where I came from as you are not one of us.
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No problem spruce - I've seen you on here for years and do not know of anyone fairer and honest as you
We have seen this before with omnipole, tekbuc, polar vac, gutter vac systems - these people only want to hear that they are the greatest and special - they never like it when a hard question about the real performance of their product is asked - they get the hump and even worse act like a 5 year old....
Darran
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Haz banned.
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HAZ BEEN ;D
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Haz banned.
Honestly I'm sad that it has come to this.
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Haz banned.
Honestly I'm sad that it has come to this.
Well he kicked off and spammed the forum with multiple spamming threads (now removed) so he's been kicked off.
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He was promoting this resin on the other forum a few months back and got shot down in flames. By an industry expert , don’t think he has posted since . 😂😂😂😂
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Because the resin comes from Pakistan and you have family here does that mean they bring it here as hand luggage?
Slacky your profile picture reminds me of something funny I saw in the barber shop the other day ;D
A Turkish barber shop by any chance?
Kurdish shop. five cotton buds on sticks dipped in hot wax and pushed up the hose when wax is hard there yanked out along with all nasal hairs :o
I actually paid for the privilege once. The barber was laughing when he did it. I now know why 😂