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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tom20001 on May 08, 2021, 08:55:27 am
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Need to upgrade some equipment and i have van mounted hose reel 7 years now and its gone very rusty so is automatic reel worth it lads? Really . Personally I dont mind winding it in but if it means less strain on day to day basis fair enough. Does it come with a rechargeable battery or what way does it work as I don't have split charge relay to my battery in van i just take in and out daily to charge.
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Everyone has different opinions on which one is best and they only draw the battery for the 30-40 seconds they need each time you reel in so not a massive drain on the battery,an electric reel regardless of which one you choose will change your working day it did mine the hardest part with WFP for me was manually reeling in as I use a lot of hose on most jobs I do.
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Opinions vary someone pulling up on the side of a road and only pulling out to go round the back of a small house won’t mind reeling in by hand,different story if you pull out most of the drum on a daily basis though shoulder and lower back pain will go if you suffer with that.
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You could opt for a better quality hand cranked reel such as Hannay, which is easier to reel in. Mine is 15 years old, I had to replace the "super swivel" on it 2 years ago.
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I pondered this very question for a few months, after all reeling in is the hardest part of the work in my opinion. (Actually cleaning windows is a doddle).
Eventually I decided to get one, got the waterworks 3D. Think it was £510 including vat. I can’t comment on any other reels as I’ve only used this one, but so far (6 months) it’s been great.
Oh. My. God. What a difference. Why on Earth have I been using my own energy and muscle power all this time?
It’s well worth it in my view, it’s not only faster, but it saves your energy so you’re not as fatigued at the end of the day. I’d say I’m able to do 10-20% more in a day just because of it.
However, I’m aware that not everyone likes them. This baffles me a bit as I don’t understand what’s not to like, but each to their own.
Now the hardest part of the work is... the driving I suppose! It’s tiring!
I have a leisure battery with a smart split charge and never ever bench charge it. No problems at all with power etc.
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couldnt have put it better Peter , my experiance exactly , had mine 3 moths now
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Had mine for a month
Wouldn’t be without it now.
Got mine from window cleaning warehouse
Power up 3D
BRILLIANT
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couldnt have put it better Peter , my experiance exactly , had mine 3 moths now
Do they do left handed ones?
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not sure , but i have recieved me left handed clamps from facelift complete gamechanger
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soupy ,ive had mine addapted for left opening door users
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Had the oraniginal power up hd was very good lasted 3 years before bearings went new one i got has lasted 18 months tops hole shaft has broke causing chain to come off every time u reel it in ive now gone back to standerd hose reels as i had no spare and i don't think ill bother with another electric reel
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I have waterworks one - generally good altho one of the lads has managed to knock the chain off - any tricks to get it back on ?
or is it a strip down to get at the chain
Darran
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I have waterworks one - generally good altho one of the lads has managed to knock the chain off - any tricks to get it back on ?
or is it a strip down to get at the chain
Darran
its bit fiddley getting it back on no strip down needed i found putting the chain on small cog first then feed a wire hook down to lift chain up and to top cog then spin wheel to get it on i tilted it on its side to put chain on small cog hope that helps :)
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It’s easy you need to loosen off the motor so you can put the chain over the bottom small cog first,once that’s done on the lower cog put it back into place and then roll the chain over the upper larger cog.
You need to spin the larger cog slowly attaching the chain,if you don’t loosen the motor you won’t get the chain back on spray with dry lube once back on.
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I have waterworks one - generally good altho one of the lads has managed to knock the chain off - any tricks to get it back on ?
or is it a strip down to get at the chain
Darran
its bit fiddley getting it back on no strip down needed i found putting the chain on small cog first then feed a wire hook down to lift chain up and to top cog then spin wheel to get it on i tilted it on its side to put chain on small cog hope that helps :)
Cheers
I'll take a look Monday I'll take a wire coat hanger with me to make a hook
Darran
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I love light and easy at my age. Extreme 20 as main pole. But reeling in escapes me as a major issue. I have a cheap lightweight claber reel for lifting in and out and the first 30/35 metres to pull out off the reel is reinforced pole hose. It's probably only a third of the weight per metre compared with microbore and lasts just as long.
I can loop 30 metres before walking off and it's light and easy to reel in.
If I thought electric was worth it I wouldn't hesitate at the price of an extreme 25.
But I'm not a young fit buck at all but reeling in 'reely' is no issue for me. 🤷♂️
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How much do you need per job try reeling in all or 3/4 of hose every job.
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How much do you need per job try reeling in all or 3/4 of hose every job.
Well I estimated that most of my jobs need less than 40 metres and I buy a 100m of reinforced pole hose. I cut that into 33 m lengths and when one splits I put another on to the remaining 66m of microbore.
If I was regularly using 50m plus I would just put half on the reel. If 70m plus then just reinforced pole hose on the whole thing.
Simplez.
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I agree with you Mr Gold, but I also cant resist a bargain so picked up a couple - but to be honest the guys are not overly fussed by them
Darran
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Absoloutely get one, it makes the job easier its that simple.
Theres lots of things that make the job a bit easier and when all added together it makes the job a lot easier.
If cost is an issue just make one for about £50, if not then just buy one off the shelf, both do the same thing.
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I made the switch Andy end of last year and am very happy with it
It just makes you’re day easier and you’re less tired by the end of the day and it’s fun to use... which does make a difference
We’ve found that the most noticeable difference is they actually make the hose much easier to get out!
Also obviously, and most importantly, you won’t get the wear and tear on your joints over time and be living with chronic pain in your shoulder as you age...
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Extreme poles electric hose reels are both a no brainer if you don’t have the cash stick it on a card,best money you’ll spend to change you’re working day.
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didn't this get removed because its dangerous ?
Darran
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Quality 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Good news - with a little hook on the chain back on in five minutes ! ;D thanks for the help
But now the motor doesn't turn - checked fuse all good - looked in the black electric box to see this... I think someone has pulled the cable - anyone got a picture where the wires should go - cheers
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1620649398_IMG_1680.JPG)
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I am Not an electrician, but based on logic
One wire will come from the motor then to the switch
One wire will come from the motor then to the battery
One wire will come from the switch to the battery
So I presume the two middle wires will go together. Try tracing the wires back or use a 12v tester to confirm this.
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That would be my thinking but thats a hell of a way to be pulled out - or are the 2 middle terminals connected inside the block ?
Darran
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That would be my thinking but thats a hell of a way to be pulled out - or are the 2 middle terminals connected inside the block ?
Darran
If you look at the outside of the box 4 wires come in one side and 2 wires come in the other side , so it would make sense they are in the same block( it’s the easiest route)
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Is that the reel you got from me Darren?
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Had the oraniginal power up hd was very good lasted 3 years before bearings went new one i got has lasted 18 months tops hole shaft has broke causing chain to come off every time u reel it in ive now gone back to standerd hose reels as i had no spare and i don't think ill bother with another electric reel
a decent electric reel should last 10+ years......forget the waterworks reels you want the pure freedom reelmaster mate
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Is that the reel you got from me Darren?
Yes mate
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I what's apped waterworks and got a reply less than 5 mins later the blue wire shares the terminal with the brown - I shall do it in the morning but what great service ;D
Darran
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Thanks very much lads. Think the consensus is definitely worth having and you lads have not put me wrong on any advice yet. Its about making day to day that bit easier. Whats the recommendation for which to purchase? And the battery that runs them I just take that out the van and charge it just like my leisure battery. Ps Daz please dont slag me but still haven't got my extreme but going to take the plunge very soon 🙈😜
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didn't this get removed because its dangerous ?
Darran
Just noticed it and removed it again! ;D
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didn't this get removed because its dangerous ?
Darran
Lol he doesn’t learn does he 😂😂😂 looks like a real professional set up using that drill 😳😳😳
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Couldn't CIU give hman his own section like gardeners in suppliers area or something where he could post till his hearts content
Darran
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OK - you lot have piqued my interest. Does anyone use reinforced pole hose AND an electric reel?
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OK - you lot have piqued my interest. Does anyone use reinforced pole hose AND an electric reel?
Electric reel
30mtr minibore
100 mtr exceed pole hose
Tubleless set up.
No pressure problems and will last 24 months
HTH
Tony
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OK - you lot have piqued my interest. Does anyone use reinforced pole hose AND an electric reel?
Electric reel
30mtr minibore
100 mtr exceed pole hose
Tubleless set up.
No pressure problems and will last 24 months
HTH
Tony
Thanks! So what electric reel - and how easily does the hose come off the reel compared with a handreel? (I tend to loop enough of the pole hose to get to my initial start point)
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OK - you lot have piqued my interest. Does anyone use reinforced pole hose AND an electric reel?
Electric reel
30mtr minibore
100 mtr exceed pole hose
Tubleless set up.
No pressure problems and will last 24 months
HTH
Tony
Thanks! So what electric reel - and how easily does the hose come off the reel compared with a handreel? (I tend to loop enough of the pole hose to get to my initial start point)
Hi mate.
It’s a second generation waterworks one with the metal sides.
Looping or pulling enough off is also how I do it. There can be some overrun if you just wang a load off, but this can be solved but pulling/or walking it out steadily. It can also be tightened to stop this.
You also need to guide it back in through a rag to spool on the reel.. It’s an a5se if it goes over the side of the drum/reel
I know the way you work is light, but I’m sure you’d enjoy a lecy reel
Tony