Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jk999 on April 24, 2021, 08:25:13 pm
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Has anyone ever repaired their uni valve
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I stripped down, cleaned, re-greased and re-assembled mine a couple of times if that's what you mean. But they always would start leaking again after a short while. Didn't mind the leak too much as it was very small. However, I use the twist valve from Gardiners now and must say I prefer it. Never leaks and always works. I know of course that this is a subjective view.
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It's not leaking it takes about 5 pulls to turn off
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Yes I have cleaned them several times p&f did a video
Also check calibration and flow on high settings it does upset the univalve operation if there is too much pressure build up
Darran
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I have univalves on all my poles but since have the new spring v16 link I hardly used them now as I personally prefer the link, especially as the univalve fails a lot quicker than they used too.
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Spring v16 link?
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Controller with remote control I think
Darran
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The new V16 is a lot better than the previous v11 versions Plus with the added WFP link they are brilliant, See link below for more details.
http://springltd.co/v16-wfp-link
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I have univalves on all my poles but since have the new spring v16 link I hardly used them now as I personally prefer the link, especially as the univalve fails a lot quicker than they used too.
thats because stev as changed the quality of the uni valve so they fail quicker there was a massive thread on here with pics to prove it and stev came on here crying like a baby as he had been found out
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I vaguely remember a thread about that didn’t know Steve came on must have missed that bit.
They defo fail quicker now,
I have three poles I use on my van each as a univalve the spring v16 wfp link does the same job so I don’t really need them . It as other benefits over them too like pause your pump when talking to customers saving strain on your pumps which in turn saves the battery can turn power on/off I turn off as soon as I finish the last window also turn the flow up/down if needed.
I had bought three spare univalve before buying the spring wfp link conntroller these will be used on my son poles as I won’t buy another as not needed IMO.
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I have univalves on all my poles but since have the new spring v16 link I hardly used them now as I personally prefer the link, especially as the univalve fails a lot quicker than they used too.
thats because stev as changed the quality of the uni valve so they fail quicker there was a massive thread on here with pics to prove it and stev came on here crying like a baby as he had been found out
I never saw the part where Steve came on here either. Was this the thread where Lee GLS and P&F had broken springs inside due to corrosion?
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=217348.0
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I vaguely remember a thread about that didn’t know Steve came on must have missed that bit.
They defo fail quicker now,
I have three poles I use on my van each as a univalve the spring v16 wfp link does the same job so I don’t really need them . It as other benefits over them too like pause your pump when talking to customers saving strain on your pumps which in turn saves the battery can turn power on/off I turn off as soon as I finish the last window also turn the flow up/down if needed.
I had bought three spare univalve before buying the spring wfp link conntroller these will be used on my son poles as I won’t buy another as not needed IMO.
Hi Den.
Don’t you find holding the fob a PITA.? Do you use a lanyard with it. Worn as a watch I think would work best.
Tony
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Agree that univalves are definitely not lasting as long now.
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I vaguely remember a thread about that didn’t know Steve came on must have missed that bit.
They defo fail quicker now,
I have three poles I use on my van each as a univalve the spring v16 wfp link does the same job so I don’t really need them . It as other benefits over them too like pause your pump when talking to customers saving strain on your pumps which in turn saves the battery can turn power on/off I turn off as soon as I finish the last window also turn the flow up/down if needed.
I had bought three spare univalve before buying the spring wfp link conntroller these will be used on my son poles as I won’t buy another as not needed IMO.
Hi Den.
Don’t you find holding the fob a PITA.? Do you use a lanyard with it. Worn as a watch I think would work best.
Tony
No not at all use with a lanyard chest height perfect height for me much easier tap the button than pulling the univalve,
I have been using the univalve since launch so my mind is trained to tug the hose it took a a little while to get used to using the fob because of memory muscle but now I prefer it,.
We have 8 poles all have univalves once they are knackered and three new univalves I purchased before getting the wfp link I won’t be replacing them.
I’m honestly really impressed with the wfp link controller.
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I vaguely remember a thread about that didn’t know Steve came on must have missed that bit.
They defo fail quicker now,
I have three poles I use on my van each as a univalve the spring v16 wfp link does the same job so I don’t really need them . It as other benefits over them too like pause your pump when talking to customers saving strain on your pumps which in turn saves the battery can turn power on/off I turn off as soon as I finish the last window also turn the flow up/down if needed.
I had bought three spare univalve before buying the spring wfp link conntroller these will be used on my son poles as I won’t buy another as not needed IMO.
Hi Den.
Don’t you find holding the fob a PITA.? Do you use a lanyard with it. Worn as a watch I think would work best.
Tony
No not at all use with a lanyard chest height perfect height for me much easier tap the button than pulling the univalve,
I have been using the univalve since launch so my mind is trained to tug the hose it took a a little while to get used to using the fob because of memory muscle but now I prefer it,.
We have 8 poles all have univalves once they are knackered and three new univalves I purchased before getting the wfp link I won’t be replacing them.
I’m honestly really impressed with the wfp link controller.
When you turn the controller off though surly the flow doesn’t stop instantly?
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Hello Lee;
I see your not a million miles from me 😄 little hard to explain but will try my best.
For instance when you have cleaned a ground floor window you have to raise your pole slight to be able to tug on the hose this takes approximately 1 second to complete this movement. When using the fob it’s much quicker to tap the pause button which takes approx 1 second to stop flow so overall approximately the same.
I have an old shoulder injury that as now turned into tendinosis not to be mistaken for Tendonitis so pulling the univalve is aggravating my shoulder.
Also the univalve as been blamed for damaging the new jet capsules on Gardiner brushes it not setup correctly this won’t happen with the wfp link.
Got to remember this isn’t a one shot remote but a new design that is excellent and instant once the fob as been pressed.
There is other functions I thought I wouldn’t use like having to turn the flow up 100m away the other side of a big lodge I was cleaning as third storey window was absolutely caked in gull mess.
On my van I have five pole two my son uses and three that I use I can now elimate three univalves from pole set ups saving a few ££££
I’m not affiliated with spring Ltd just sharing my thoughts I also think the univalve is great and used them from launch just now prefer the wfp link, the same as I now prefer extreme poles over Slx pole, electric reels or manual reels, tubless of non tubless etc, I’m always trying to make life easier and more efficient.
These are my experience and what I prefer doesn’t mean someone else will prefer the wfp link?
Unless you tried it I wouldn’t assume it’s NOt going to be better than a univalve remember it took me approx a week to train my brain to stop tugging the hose 😂😂😂
Just to add when cleaning 4 storey and abov e a tap on the fob is a breeze to operating a univalve much easier and safer.
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Think my next purchase will be a wfp link and v16 controller. Getting tired of the Univalve, it becomes a bit of a pain after a couple of months. Gets harder and harder to operate to the point where it's affecting my shoulder.
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Think my next purchase will be a wfp link and v16 controller. Getting tired of the Univalve, it becomes a bit of a pain after a couple of months. Gets harder and harder to operate to the point where it's affecting my shoulder.
Exactly the OP states having to tug the univalve 4 or 5 times to stop/start flow where as one press on the fob no straining 4 or 5 times quicker in the case of a faulty univalve extra few seconds of saving water battery saving much smother pump not damaging jets etc.
These are my views like I have said previously you have to try and use for a week before you reliase the advantages.
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Den here a couple of questions for you - it takes a second topress the stop button, how long before the water actually comes to a stop ?
Then pressing go how long before it get to full flow again
And what stops the water draining out of pole and reel hose as there is no physical stop on the water
Darran
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Den here a couple of questions for you - it takes a second topress the stop button, how long before the water actually comes to a stop ?
Then pressing go how long before it get to full flow again
And what stops the water draining out of pole and reel hose as there is no physical stop on the water
Darran
Hello Darren,
I haven’t timed it but approx 1 second honestly not any difference if there is it’s minimal.
There is several function on the fob if have configured mine as follows.
1. Pause I use this a lot between cleaning windows and when speaking to clients on the phone it’s stops the pump without powering off so no extra stress I.e. Pressure switch saving battery./pump.
2. Flow up.
3. Flow down.
4. On/off I switch on the controller when I get to my first window fire walking from the van and then switch off after cleaning the last window before walking back to the van.
I’m tubless so don’t disconnect my pole I use extreme 18 for most of my work unless I have to change to a bigger extreme 25 or bigger so when turned off I place pole in pole holder and reel in no leakage .
Once again I haven’t timed it but to press the button is quicker than pulling the univalve then approx 1 second to stop after pressing the button overall nothing in one way or the other time wise over the course of the day.
Another advantage I will save at least £100 a year in failing leaky univalves .
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Yep, your not getting my q's - a second to press the button but (unless something has drastically changed since I used a remote) it takes 4 or five seconds to completely stop then a few seconds for it to return to full flow that's because without a physical stop the hose starts to drain as the water is under pressure - tubeless or no, when reeling it water used to squirt out the brush with the movement of the reel
If you have ever left a reel over night without a physical stop you end up with a puddle in the van/floor
Perhaps you could do a quick video showing the brush in full flow and what happens when you click to stop and visa versa
Darran
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I’m sitting here is a pair of shorts lol so no video for now lol
I have just checked and can say without a shadow of a doubt it take exactly 2 seconds from turning on to flow out of my fours jets, so you are right in saying things have drastically ally changed its now doublethe speed from your experience not sure what remote you was using also I’m still right in saying I had never timed only guessed approx lol.
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Hello Lee;
I see your not a million miles from me 😄 little hard to explain but will try my best.
For instance when you have cleaned a ground floor window you have to raise your pole slight to be able to tug on the hose this takes approximately 1 second to complete this movement. When using the fob it’s much quicker to tap the pause button which takes approx 1 second to stop flow so overall approximately the same.
I have an old shoulder injury that as now turned into tendinosis not to be mistaken for Tendonitis so pulling the univalve is aggravating my shoulder.
Also the univalve as been blamed for damaging the new jet capsules on Gardiner brushes it not setup correctly this won’t happen with the wfp link.
Got to remember this isn’t a one shot remote but a new design that is excellent and instant once the fob as been pressed.
There is other functions I thought I wouldn’t use like having to turn the flow up 100m away the other side of a big lodge I was cleaning as third storey window was absolutely caked in gull mess.
On my van I have five pole two my son uses and three that I use I can now elimate three univalves from pole set ups saving a few ££££
I’m not affiliated with spring Ltd just sharing my thoughts I also think the univalve is great and used them from launch just now prefer the wfp link, the same as I now prefer extreme poles over Slx pole, electric reels or manual reels, tubless of non tubless etc, I’m always trying to make life easier and more efficient.
These are my experience and what I prefer doesn’t mean someone else will prefer the wfp link?
Unless you tried it I wouldn’t assume it’s NOt going to be better than a univalve remember it took me approx a week to train my brain to stop tugging the hose 😂😂😂
Just to add when cleaning 4 storey and abov e a tap on the fob is a breeze to operating a univalve much easier and safer.
Where are you based Den.
I found this video of the wfp link, does if you go to the end of the video you will see the response time, does this seem about right?
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Hello Lee;
I see your not a million miles from me 😄 little hard to explain but will try my best.
For instance when you have cleaned a ground floor window you have to raise your pole slight to be able to tug on the hose this takes approximately 1 second to complete this movement. When using the fob it’s much quicker to tap the pause button which takes approx 1 second to stop flow so overall approximately the same.
I have an old shoulder injury that as now turned into tendinosis not to be mistaken for Tendonitis so pulling the univalve is aggravating my shoulder.
Also the univalve as been blamed for damaging the new jet capsules on Gardiner brushes it not setup correctly this won’t happen with the wfp link.
Got to remember this isn’t a one shot remote but a new design that is excellent and instant once the fob as been pressed.
There is other functions I thought I wouldn’t use like having to turn the flow up 100m away the other side of a big lodge I was cleaning as third storey window was absolutely caked in gull mess.
On my van I have five pole two my son uses and three that I use I can now elimate three univalves from pole set ups saving a few ££££
I’m not affiliated with spring Ltd just sharing my thoughts I also think the univalve is great and used them from launch just now prefer the wfp link, the same as I now prefer extreme poles over Slx pole, electric reels or manual reels, tubless of non tubless etc, I’m always trying to make life easier and more efficient.
These are my experience and what I prefer doesn’t mean someone else will prefer the wfp link?
Unless you tried it I wouldn’t assume it’s NOt going to be better than a univalve remember it took me approx a week to train my brain to stop tugging the hose 😂😂😂
Just to add when cleaning 4 storey and abov e a tap on the fob is a breeze to operating a univalve much easier and safer.
Where are you based Den.
I found this video of the wfp link, does if you go to the end of the video you will see the response time, does this seem about right?
I’m closed to South woodham ferrers if you ever want to try it out and see for yourself 👍
I can’t see any link to the video?
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Hello Lee;
I see your not a million miles from me 😄 little hard to explain but will try my best.
For instance when you have cleaned a ground floor window you have to raise your pole slight to be able to tug on the hose this takes approximately 1 second to complete this movement. When using the fob it’s much quicker to tap the pause button which takes approx 1 second to stop flow so overall approximately the same.
I have an old shoulder injury that as now turned into tendinosis not to be mistaken for Tendonitis so pulling the univalve is aggravating my shoulder.
Also the univalve as been blamed for damaging the new jet capsules on Gardiner brushes it not setup correctly this won’t happen with the wfp link.
Got to remember this isn’t a one shot remote but a new design that is excellent and instant once the fob as been pressed.
There is other functions I thought I wouldn’t use like having to turn the flow up 100m away the other side of a big lodge I was cleaning as third storey window was absolutely caked in gull mess.
On my van I have five pole two my son uses and three that I use I can now elimate three univalves from pole set ups saving a few ££££
I’m not affiliated with spring Ltd just sharing my thoughts I also think the univalve is great and used them from launch just now prefer the wfp link, the same as I now prefer extreme poles over Slx pole, electric reels or manual reels, tubless of non tubless etc, I’m always trying to make life easier and more efficient.
These are my experience and what I prefer doesn’t mean someone else will prefer the wfp link?
Unless you tried it I wouldn’t assume it’s NOt going to be better than a univalve remember it took me approx a week to train my brain to stop tugging the hose 😂😂😂
Just to add when cleaning 4 storey and abov e a tap on the fob is a breeze to operating a univalve much easier and safer.
Where are you based Den.
I found this video of the wfp link, does if you go to the end of the video you will see the response time, does this seem about right?
I’m closed to South woodham ferrers if you ever want to try it out and see for yourself 👍
I can’t see any link to the video?
I forgot to paste the link
https://youtu.be/iHl1XDxDMvs
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Yep, your not getting my q's - a second to press the button but (unless something has drastically changed since I used a remote) it takes 4 or five seconds to completely stop then a few seconds for it to return to full flow that's because without a physical stop the hose starts to drain as the water is under pressure - tubeless or no, when reeling it water used to squirt out the brush with the movement of the reel
If you have ever left a reel over night without a physical stop you end up with a puddle in the van/floor
Perhaps you could do a quick video showing the brush in full flow and what happens when you click to stop and visa versa
Darran
I think I would still leave the univalve in situ then still have to option to apply a water stop.
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There’s a delay just like Smudger says. Wouldn’t work for me. It’s too slow as no physical water stop. I’ll stick with the univalve, even though they’re not as robust as they were.
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The amount off spring controlers I have gone through over the years I unreal, a univalve lasts me roughly 9 months to a year at the cost of £35,so over 5 years I will go through 6 univalves at cost off £210 roughly the same price as wfp link I can guarantee I won't get 5 years out off the link
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We use v11 controllers in conjunction with the univalves. Very very rare to have a controller problem.
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Yep, your not getting my q's - a second to press the button but (unless something has drastically changed since I used a remote) it takes 4 or five seconds to completely stop then a few seconds for it to return to full flow that's because without a physical stop the hose starts to drain as the water is under pressure - tubeless or no, when reeling it water used to squirt out the brush with the movement of the reel
If you have ever left a reel over night without a physical stop you end up with a puddle in the van/floor
Perhaps you could do a quick video showing the brush in full flow and what happens when you click to stop and visa versa
Darran
I think I would still leave the univalve in situ then still have to option to apply a water stop.
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Perfect combo 👍
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Hello Lee;
I see your not a million miles from me 😄 little hard to explain but will try my best.
For instance when you have cleaned a ground floor window you have to raise your pole slight to be able to tug on the hose this takes approximately 1 second to complete this movement. When using the fob it’s much quicker to tap the pause button which takes approx 1 second to stop flow so overall approximately the same.
I have an old shoulder injury that as now turned into tendinosis not to be mistaken for Tendonitis so pulling the univalve is aggravating my shoulder.
Also the univalve as been blamed for damaging the new jet capsules on Gardiner brushes it not setup correctly this won’t happen with the wfp link.
Got to remember this isn’t a one shot remote but a new design that is excellent and instant once the fob as been pressed.
There is other functions I thought I wouldn’t use like having to turn the flow up 100m away the other side of a big lodge I was cleaning as third storey window was absolutely caked in gull mess.
On my van I have five pole two my son uses and three that I use I can now elimate three univalves from pole set ups saving a few ££££
I’m not affiliated with spring Ltd just sharing my thoughts I also think the univalve is great and used them from launch just now prefer the wfp link, the same as I now prefer extreme poles over Slx pole, electric reels or manual reels, tubless of non tubless etc, I’m always trying to make life easier and more efficient.
These are my experience and what I prefer doesn’t mean someone else will prefer the wfp link?
Unless you tried it I wouldn’t assume it’s NOt going to be better than a univalve remember it took me approx a week to train my brain to stop tugging the hose 😂😂😂
Just to add when cleaning 4 storey and abov e a tap on the fob is a breeze to operating a univalve much easier and safer.
Where are you based Den.
I found this video of the wfp link, does if you go to the end of the video you will see the response time, does this seem about right?
I’m closed to South woodham ferrers if you ever want to try it out and see for yourself 👍
I can’t see any link to the video?
I forgot to paste the link
https://youtu.be/iHl1XDxDMvs
Lee, there is two ways of stop /start the waterflow
1. Pause mode it takes 2 seconds to restart the flow from pause and 1 second to stop. (This is the mode I use).
2. On/off mode it takes approx 3 seconds to start flow and 2 seconds to stop. (I only use this when I pull up at customer turn on when I start my first window then I use pause mode if turning off between windows or talking to clients/answering the phone then as soon as the last window is cleaned I press the off) . Really hope I’m making sense.
The Squeaky clean video I’m not sure if he his using pause on/off or just using the power on/off as you can configure the remote fog to suit your needs.
This Saturday it both my sons birthday 33 and 36 so I’m celebrating with them but from Sunday onwards your more than welcome to come and have a look you can then clearly see for yourself how efficient it works.
I use JG diy fitting for my tubless kit see photo on how to stop waterflow if not using a univalve, I do have univalves fitted on all my poles and will never have to buy one again as I have three new spare and now with the v16 controller wfp link I hardly ever tug the univalve unlike before where you are tugging constantly thru out the day.
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Lee,
Won’t allow me to post photo of how I stop water Can send email to you .
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The amount off spring controlers I have gone through over the years I unreal, a univalve lasts me roughly 9 months to a year at the cost of £35,so over 5 years I will go through 6 univalves at cost off £210 roughly the same price as wfp link I can guarantee I won't get 5 years out off the link
V16 was just an suggestion as an alternative personally I may been using the univalve since they were released and think they are great but the newer versions have been failing us after approx six months or so of use are completely opposite never had a spring controller fail as a matter of fact my old 5 old controller still working perfect only changed it as wanted the wfp link.
Have you tried the Gardiner gooseneck valve that may be another alternative? I like the look of them but can’t use a superscraper and I like to use a swivel so I ruled them out myself.
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Whats the goose neck valves
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I have stripped the univalve down and noticed the spring isn't cracking ,has anyone changed the spring at all
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I have the Gardiner goose neck valve if anyone local wants it...used for approx 2 hours then taken off.....not good with swivel.
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My univalve is also now taking 5/6 pulls to work does anyone have a link to this automatic switch thing ive never heard of it before