Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richard iSparkle on March 16, 2021, 03:55:42 pm
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hey,
just had to spend another £12 on gardiners to replace jet capsules ::)roll
whats a good like for like alternative for the brushes?
i like their universal sill brush
thanks
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hey,
just had to spend another £12 on gardiners to replace jet capsules ::)roll
whats a good like for like alternative for the brushes?
i like their universal sill brush
thanks
are these any good from Window Cleaning Warehouse?
facelift phantom DuPont Sill brush
or facelift sideline ultra SIDE LINE?
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xline dupont brushes are good.
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Redland 10” central mortar spray bar if they haven’t got any of the above available it’s very similar 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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xline dupont brushes are good.
I have been using one a week, brilliant brush.
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Xline dupont are the best.
I reck gardiners brushes very quickly, though I like their weight, they are not robust enough for heavy handed people like me, especially with hot water.
Xline have more rows of bristles in their brushes which makes them hold their shape for longer and have much better cleaning power IMO.
I wish gardiners would make some more robust brushes for people that don't mind the little bit of extra weight as I quite like the jet capsules.
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I like there brushes hate there new jets dam things are 💩
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As far as cleaning power goes DuPont bristles are superb imo I just wish Alex was a little more generous with the amount of bristles 🤣🤣,a couple of passes and its clean.
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xline dupont brushes are good.
I have been using one a week, brilliant brush.
Can’t be that brilliant if they’re only lasting a week🤪
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Yeah I have had 4 or those new gardiner jets break in recent weeks. Tried to flag it to them but they got a bit defensive suggesting something to do with my setup.
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Xline dupont are the best.
I reck gardiners brushes very quickly, though I like their weight, they are not robust enough for heavy handed people like me, especially with hot water.
Xline have more rows of bristles in their brushes which makes them hold their shape for longer and have much better cleaning power IMO.
I wish gardiners would make some more robust brushes for people that don't mind the little bit of extra weight as I quite like the jet capsules.
The lates Gardiners supreame stiff white brushes are good we use hot water all year round and find they last around 3 months , we tried the x line DuPont and it didn’t last a week before the bristles were knackered with the hot water . Most other makes we tried were the same or weighed a ton 😂😂
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I had to use a 35cm flocked brush today after using radial lite for weeks, felt like a brick on the end of my pole, so slow, horrible
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X-line looks good - bit cheeky to add £6 onto a £53 brush for postage
Darran
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Xline dupont are the best.
I reck gardiners brushes very quickly, though I like their weight, they are not robust enough for heavy handed people like me, especially with hot water.
Xline have more rows of bristles in their brushes which makes them hold their shape for longer and have much better cleaning power IMO.
I wish gardiners would make some more robust brushes for people that don't mind the little bit of extra weight as I quite like the jet capsules.
The lates Gardiners supreame stiff white brushes are good we use hot water all year round and find they last around 3 months , we tried the x line DuPont and it didn’t last a week before the bristles were knackered with the hot water . Most other makes we tried were the same or weighed a ton 😂😂
Iv got the latest supreme stiff, its ok but just feels a bit too stiff, very abrasive on the glass. Might have to play with it some more.
I do like the ultimate flocked for leaded windows and it seems to hold its shape well even with hot water which is surprising.
For day to day work I always go back to the xline dupont though.
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As far as cleaning power goes DuPont bristles are superb imo I just wish Alex was a little more generous with the amount of bristles 🤣🤣,a couple of passes and its clean.
Thought they were not suitable for hot water.
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As far as cleaning power goes DuPont bristles are superb imo I just wish Alex was a little more generous with the amount of bristles 🤣🤣,a couple of passes and its clean.
Thought they were not suitable for hot water.
You are right they arnt suitable up to 30 degrees temperature , we tried them and in 3 days they were destroyed
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As far as cleaning power goes DuPont bristles are superb imo I just wish Alex was a little more generous with the amount of bristles 🤣🤣,a couple of passes and its clean.
Thought they were not suitable for hot water.
No at present they aren’t with the amount of bristles that they have,they are doing the big brush which is DuPont full trim it would be lovely to have a similar version in an extreme yes maybe it wouldn’t last that long with hot water but for the time it lasted it would a very good brush. I only use extreme brushes these days they clean just as well as any bigger brush tbh.
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Here's how I solved the problem of them pulling out.
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ok bit the bullet and ordered an x-line sill - lets see how it does
I like the mod very nicely made
Darran
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ok bit the bullet and ordered an x-line sill - lets see how it does
I like the mod very nicely made
Darran
which one did you go for?
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Here's how I solved the problem of them pulling out.
such a shame that you now have to screw metal into a brush to get it reliable... ever since the 'improvements'
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Dupont sill for lightness
I don't like the gardeners sill brushes they all have those silly sticky out side bristles
Darran
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I got the xline lite flocked its very heavy payed extra for the rince bar but did not get on with it was bit worried about the bar scratching the glass
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I tell you what those Xline brushes are good for they bring golfers-tennis elbow on a treat a few weeks using them and you wonot be able to sleep for love nor money 🤣🤣
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I tell you what those Xline brushes are good for they bring golfers-tennis elbow on a treat a few weeks using them and you wonot be able to sleep for love nor money 🤣🤣
And they do lol... they last for years though looking at the chart on gardiners I hope I don’t have to change it after 4 months as stated! The weight of gardiners is unrivalled tho I was using 330g xline and switched to gardiners 95grams unbelievable difference even at ground level .
And yes I have scratched windows with x line rinse bar when pressing on too hard .
Gardiners seem like they’ve spent more time designing and testing / trialling everything out more and everything is better made IMO
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The xline 26 cm brushes are a similar weight and size to Gardiner sl range (sill brush is obviously heavier).
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It’s all about the weight for me save those elbows and wrists the brush is huge when it comes to these injuries.
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i cleaned 3 large childrens homes this afternoon....on one of them i need my 25 foot xtreme fully extended just to reach the 1st floor windows....i used a standard stiff xtreme brush on a carbon 55degree gooseneck......
easy,light as a feather and quick way to work........
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Yeah extremes all the way for me Daz that stuff version extreme is the only brush I don’t really like even with very hot water.
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I mean very hot water Daz yeah you know hotter than yours m8 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🥵
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i cleaned 3 large childrens homes this afternoon....on one of them i need my 25 foot xtreme fully extended just to reach the 1st floor windows....i used a standard stiff xtreme brush on a carbon 55degree gooseneck......
easy,light as a feather and quick way to work........
Are you hot water Daz?
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i cleaned 3 large childrens homes this afternoon....on one of them i need my 25 foot xtreme fully extended just to reach the 1st floor windows....i used a standard stiff xtreme brush on a carbon 55degree gooseneck......
easy,light as a feather and quick way to work........
Are you hot water Daz?
That a serious post/question ?
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i cleaned 3 large childrens homes this afternoon....on one of them i need my 25 foot xtreme fully extended just to reach the 1st floor windows....i used a standard stiff xtreme brush on a carbon 55degree gooseneck......
easy,light as a feather and quick way to work........
Are you hot water Daz?
yes...of course..... :)
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He uses warm water didn’t you know you lose 50 degrees on the ground 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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The xline 26 cm brushes are a similar weight and size to Gardiner sl range (sill brush is obviously heavier).
I have 2 xline brushes one is 200 odd grams the other is 300 odd grams. Dunno what Sl range is but I have gardiners lightest 26cm Xtreme brush 95 grams hypertec hybrid? Takes same amount of scrubs to clean so no brainer
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If you use cold water the wide DuPont Extreme is a very good brush it melts through the dirtiest windows,I use it on very cold mornings when I don’t want any thermal shock at times before the heater goes on a bit later in the morning.
Don’t be fooled by the lack of bristles it cleans as well as any brush,imo the DuPont or Tucker type bristle is easily the best bristle to put in any stock.
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I put the xline on yesterday lasted 1 window a then chucked it back in the van 200g dry when wet its a beast back to my medium ultimate
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The x line brushes last forever, ive still got one on my spare pole, must have had it 4 years and got it second hand to start with.
But i wouldnt use anything other than an extreme brush now, whats the point when you are just adding weight.
Is use the extreme stiff with cold water because it lasts much longer than the medium vesion.
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i cleaned 3 large childrens homes this afternoon....on one of them i need my 25 foot xtreme fully extended just to reach the 1st floor windows....i used a standard stiff xtreme brush on a carbon 55degree gooseneck......
easy,light as a feather and quick way to work........
That’s all I use, a carbon gooseneck neck and gardiner xtreme poles and brushes.
I’ve had all the other brushes and never find I need a sill brush and such like.
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Bugger.
Sounds like I’ll stick with Gardiners and their cr#p improved fan jets :'(
At least until there’s a similar brush without them
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The x line brushes last forever, ive still got one on my spare pole, must have had it 4 years and got it second hand to start with.
But i wouldnt use anything other than an extreme brush now, whats the point when you are just adding weight.
Is use the extreme stiff with cold water because it lasts much longer than the medium vesion.
Who cares how long they last if they are rubbish that won’t change over time will it lol they won’t get lighter with age like hair does,if it saved me having golfers elbow and someone said you must buy a new brush every month to prevent it I’d be buying them.
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Using manual reels and heavy brushes doesn’t do any damage short term many times years ago you’d go home with no problems and not just through age this can affect you at any time,gradually you start getting injuries and trust me it’s manual reeling heavy poles and brushes that contribute a lot to it.
I would say to any Newbies get a head start on all the other people that don’t listen buy this this and this and give yourself a chance of having an easier working day,big investment big rewards 💪💪💪💪
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I still see WFPolers using Harris poles that you could get from B&Q lol you can give someone really good advise on a whole range of things that you know are right as you’ve made the mistakes but they still bury their heads in the sand 🤣🤣🤣.
Ears I just wasted on some people they may as well have been born with 2 dicks 2 feet apart,one at the waist and one on the forehead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Bugger.
Sounds like I’ll stick with Gardiners and their cr#p improved fan jets :'(
At least until there’s a similar brush without them
If you have some of the old brushes - knock the jet out.
Use a plasterboard fixing.
Cut down to 15mm long, drill out 5mm hole.
Fit jet.
5 minutes tops.
Proper HMan stuff!!
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The x line brushes last forever, ive still got one on my spare pole, must have had it 4 years and got it second hand to start with.
But i wouldnt use anything other than an extreme brush now, whats the point when you are just adding weight.
Is use the extreme stiff with cold water because it lasts much longer than the medium vesion.
Who cares how long they last if they are rubbish that won’t change over time will it lol they won’t get lighter with age like hair does,if it saved me having golfers elbow and someone said you must buy a new brush every month to prevent it I’d be buying them.
They are not rubbish, they are a brilliant brush. Last ages and great on the glass BUT i wouldnt use one anymore or anything else than an extreme due to weight.
They are ideal for staff or young lads with plenty of energy to burn and joints still in good nick.
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The x line brushes last forever, ive still got one on my spare pole, must have had it 4 years and got it second hand to start with.
But i wouldnt use anything other than an extreme brush now, whats the point when you are just adding weight.
Is use the extreme stiff with cold water because it lasts much longer than the medium vesion.
Who cares how long they last if they are rubbish that won’t change over time will it lol they won’t get lighter with age like hair does,if it saved me having golfers elbow and someone said you must buy a new brush every month to prevent it I’d be buying them.
They are not rubbish, they are a brilliant brush. Last ages and great on the glass BUT i wouldnt use one anymore or anything else than an extreme due to weight.
They are ideal for staff or young lads with plenty of energy to burn and joints still in good nick.
Nwh said himself a while back that xline brushes are the best, now he says they are rubbish ::)roll ::)roll
I have used xline everyday for the past few years and my arms havnt fallen off yet.
I think NWH is confusing his tennis elbow for w@nkers elbow.
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They are like a lot of brushes they look very good but they are too “heavy”,I’ve made the mistake many times of thinking that looks a lovely brush and when it turns up only to be greeted by another brick in a box.
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The x line brushes last forever, ive still got one on my spare pole, must have had it 4 years and got it second hand to start with.
But i wouldnt use anything other than an extreme brush now, whats the point when you are just adding weight.
Is use the extreme stiff with cold water because it lasts much longer than the medium vesion.
Who cares how long they last if they are rubbish that won’t change over time will it lol they won’t get lighter with age like hair does,if it saved me having golfers elbow and someone said you must buy a new brush every month to prevent it I’d be buying them.
I still see WFPolers using Harris poles that you could get from B&Q lol you can give someone really good advise on a whole range of things that you know are right as you’ve made the mistakes but they still bury their heads in the sand 🤣🤣🤣.
Ears I just wasted on some people they may as well have been born with 2 dicks 2 feet apart,one at the waist and one on the forehead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Using manual reels and heavy brushes doesn’t do any damage short term many times years ago you’d go home with no problems and not just through age this can affect you at any time,gradually you start getting injuries and trust me it’s manual reeling heavy poles and brushes that contribute a lot to it.
I would say to any Newbies get a head start on all the other people that don’t listen buy this this and this and give yourself a chance of having an easier working day,big investment big rewards 💪💪💪💪
Do you ever get any work done or do you spend all day on here?
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As Nigel will tell you,
He only needs to clean one or two houses a day as he has refined his work over the last 40 years and earns £557.97 P/H
so he has a lot of free time on his hands ;D
Darran
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The x line brushes last forever, ive still got one on my spare pole, must have had it 4 years and got it second hand to start with.
But i wouldnt use anything other than an extreme brush now, whats the point when you are just adding weight.
Is use the extreme stiff with cold water because it lasts much longer than the medium vesion.
Who cares how long they last if they are rubbish that won’t change over time will it lol they won’t get lighter with age like hair does,if it saved me having golfers elbow and someone said you must buy a new brush every month to prevent it I’d be buying them.
They are not rubbish, they are a brilliant brush. Last ages and great on the glass BUT i wouldnt use one anymore or anything else than an extreme due to weight.
They are ideal for staff or young lads with plenty of energy to burn and joints still in good nick.
Nwh said himself a while back that xline brushes are the best, now he says they are rubbish ::)roll ::)roll
I have used xline everyday for the past few years and my arms havnt fallen off yet.
I think NWH is confusing his tennis elbow for w@nkers elbow.
I would say the xline brush is a better brush than the extreme in terms of scrubbing and feel on the glass. But for me i would rather have the lighter weight.
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As Nigel will tell you,
He only needs to clean one or two houses a day as he has refined his work over the last 40 years and earns £557.97 P/H
so he has a lot of free time on his hands ;D
Darran
💪💪💪💪 😘 come on now Darren you are supposed to be sharing a bed with me and KS 🤣🤣🤣
Kindest most wonderful regards Nigel Xx
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I had a 1000 Xline brushes delivered the other day I’m gonna rebuild the wall in the back garden 🪴 🤣🤣
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When I went on the website they’d ran out of British Blues saying that they had plenty of lime and cement left 🤣🤣👌
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Your my hero Nigel !
just love your passion for the world of window cleaning
Always yours
Darran. x x x x x x
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This place is getting steamy, careful with that elbow Nige.
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I might give those Xline bricks a miss a can see an Orange 🍊 with black mortar wall upsetting the neighbours.
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Using manual reels and heavy brushes doesn’t do any damage short term many times years ago you’d go home with no problems and not just through age this can affect you at any time,gradually you start getting injuries and trust me it’s manual reeling heavy poles and brushes that contribute a lot to it.
I would say to any Newbies get a head start on all the other people that don’t listen buy this this and this and give yourself a chance of having an easier working day,big investment big rewards 💪💪💪💪
its the most sensible,coherent post you ve ever posted mate...well done! :) ;D