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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Suffolkcleaners on March 07, 2021, 06:54:22 pm
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Hi Guys
We seem to be on a lot of pole threads so thought I would post my questions 😀
I currently use a SLX 22 as my normal every day pole. I also have a contract which I have another (SLX 22 with extensions 6/7/8) for a quarterly window clean of a high rise building. I have to admit it doesn’t feel too comfortable with the extensions fully extended but gets the job done. I’m thinking of investing in a pole with no extensions needed which will cover at least 40.5 feet(which is the SLX 22 working capacity height with extensions 6/7/8 approx) for that quarterly job (so I’m kind of thinking 45 feet to allow a little extra)
Any advice on what to buy? Bear in mind this pole will only be used 4 times a year but want to stick to Gardiners preferably due to preference.
Thanks in advance 👍
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I'm sure many will say the extreme but I still love my SL2 - its modular but light and strong - however I am probably out of date ;D
Darran
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Hi Darran
The SL2 is this a pole currently on sale? I can’t seem to find it on gardiners. Extreme seems to be another popular choice. Perhaps 45/50 foot an option also. Cheers
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just looked - discontinued :'(
shame but there you go - looks like extreme it is then......
Darran
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Looked at the Extreme 47 foot pole and it’s £1135 plus vat (£1362 all in) boy that’s more than I thought but the contract will pay for the pole after one clean (2-3 days work). I guess if I go cheaper I will possibly compromise on quality........
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Any advice on every day pole to accompany this new investment? My SLX 22 is starting to get a bit old and battered. You can kind of hear it making a slight cracking noise (despite stripping it down and not finding any cracks on any sections). It just kinda feels like a section is going to snap soon.
Would a CLX be a massive downgrade to a SLX? I guess it would be like having a BMW and going for a Skoda?
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Get the best pole m8 or you will regret it I’d go for the Kevlar Gardiner pole it’s slightly heavier but more rigid.
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Get the best pole m8 or you will regret it I’d go for the Kevlar Gardiner pole it’s slightly heavier but more rigid.
Hi mate. Think that’s a bit much for a job I only do 4 times a year. It’s like 3 blocks 4 times a year just to reach the top ones. The Extreme is half the price but will look into all options. Cheers 👍
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What about the SLX 47? Would this compare to the extreme 47?
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What about the SLX 47? Would this compare to the extreme 47?
NO NO NO at 47 feet it will be like a fishing rod with a shark on the end , if price allows get the Gardiner ultimate awesome pole much better than an extream at height
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What about the SLX 47? Would this compare to the extreme 47?
NO NO NO at 47 feet it will be like a fishing rod with a shark on the end , if price allows get the Gardiner ultimate awesome pole much better than an extream at height
Cheers. The Ultimate has a 46 foot option which is a working height of 51 feet. I doubt I will ever do a job higher than that. £400 more than the Extreme. Bear in mind this is for 3 blocks only 4 times a year so not sure I need to go all in. If I did loads of high level work than I agree.
Would the Extreme be a lot more noticeable than the SLX 22 with 3 extensions? Cos like you said it does feel exactly like a fishing rod with a shark on the end hahaha
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If you only use it on that one job I would get the Xtreme 35 and fully extend it, it is the same working height as what you are using at the moment but will be more rigid and is £300 cheaper than the Xtreme 47, of course if you think the pole is gonna be at it’s absolute limit then you may well have to consider the 47.
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Cheers KS. Yep I think it would be at its limit as I’m barely reaching now at 40 feet so will need the 47 foot option 👍
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Gardiners do a Supermax 50 foot one for a lot cheaper. Is this anywhere near on par to the Extreme?
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If you get other jobs similar you’ll have the pole with the ultimate if you do that job 4 xs a year the pole will last ages,after a couple of cleans it’s paid for itself then it’s all good.
The extreme can be whippy compared if I had to choose I’d suffer a slight weight increase with a stiffer pole but not something like an Ionic or similar personally I’d go for the Ultimate.
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Just looked at Gardiners pole charts and defo the Extreme 47 or Ultimate 46 for me. The weight difference compared to the Super max and SLX is quite a lot. I think due to the infrequent use of it I’m heading towards the Extreme 47. The weight difference on your back is priceless at 2400 grams for the Extreme that will feel like a feather compared to my current SLX.
Cheers guys 👍
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Any advice on every day pole to accompany this new investment? My SLX 22 is starting to get a bit old and battered. You can kind of hear it making a slight cracking noise (despite stripping it down and not finding any cracks on any sections). It just kinda feels like a section is going to snap soon.
Would a CLX be a massive downgrade to a SLX? I guess it would be like having a BMW and going for a Skoda?
I've used both clx and slx there's no comparison between the two,the slx is far superior
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I use the extreme 35 and slx 8 and 9 extensions on my four storey work it’s only for approx three hours every 8 weeks.
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Hi Guys
We seem to be on a lot of pole threads so thought I would post my questions 😀
I currently use a SLX 22 as my normal every day pole. I also have a contract which I have another (SLX 22 with extensions 6/7/8) for a quarterly window clean of a high rise building. I have to admit it doesn’t feel too comfortable with the extensions fully extended but gets the job done. I’m thinking of investing in a pole with no extensions needed which will cover at least 40.5 feet(which is the SLX 22 working capacity height with extensions 6/7/8 approx) for that quarterly job (so I’m kind of thinking 45 feet to allow a little extra)
Any advice on what to buy? Bear in mind this pole will only be used 4 times a year but want to stick to Gardiners preferably due to preference.
Thanks in advance 👍
If your current set up works then I dont see the point in investing £1350 on an xtreme 47 pole that gets used so infrequently.....you could easily lose the job in the next year or so.....
On the other hand if your actively seeking larger jobs both domestic and commercial itll be worth it compared to using SLX extensions....
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Hi Guys
We seem to be on a lot of pole threads so thought I would post my questions 😀
I currently use a SLX 22 as my normal every day pole. I also have a contract which I have another (SLX 22 with extensions 6/7/8) for a quarterly window clean of a high rise building. I have to admit it doesn’t feel too comfortable with the extensions fully extended but gets the job done. I’m thinking of investing in a pole with no extensions needed which will cover at least 40.5 feet(which is the SLX 22 working capacity height with extensions 6/7/8 approx) for that quarterly job (so I’m kind of thinking 45 feet to allow a little extra)
Any advice on what to buy? Bear in mind this pole will only be used 4 times a year but want to stick to Gardiners preferably due to preference.
Thanks in advance 👍
We use the SMax45 as out big job pole.
It’s fine for use all day on big buildings.
Obv make sure you get a nice wide brush too as they really make a diff on big commercial
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If you are after a new everyday pole as well...
Why dont you get the extreme 25 then buy the extensions to 47 foot.
That way you will only ever need to replace the 25ft extreme every couple of years the rest will last you a lifetime.
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If you are after a new everyday pole as well...
Why dont you get the extreme 25 then buy the extensions to 47 foot.
That way you will only ever need to replace the 25ft extreme every couple of years the rest will last you a lifetime.
@Stoots. What a cracking idea. Cheers for that. Thanks everyone. Extreme 25 with extensions sounds like a winner 👍
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Having said that I’ve just looked and I would need two lots of two extensions which would take it to 44 feet. I believe I would need sections 6/7/8/9 to achieve that 44 foot height. I might need to look at the Extreme 35 as everyday pole and then just buy sections 8/9 to achieve 44 foot.
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If you are after a new everyday pole as well...
Why dont you get the extreme 25 then buy the extensions to 47 foot.
That way you will only ever need to replace the 25ft extreme every couple of years the rest will last you a lifetime.
@Stoots. What a cracking idea. Cheers for that. Thanks everyone. Extreme 25 with extensions sounds like a winner 👍
You had said in your opening post that you wanted to invest in a pole without the need for extensions🤔
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Can’t be doing with extensions far better to have a pole for each sized job one part of the pole is like new the other part gets knackered,triggers broom syndrome just buy the poles you need and be done with it lol.
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if you put pole tape on the extensions and put it together as a permanent pole it would feel better to use ,
i had an slx25 when i used an extension it used to feel like it was going to split .
if youve got 3 extensions there must be a lot of play in the joints with no tape
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You’re right guys. Going to look at the Extreme 47 or Ultimate 46. The ultimate has a nice colour (Lol) although it says on the description it’s a darker shade now. What the heck maybe time to just invest in a decent high one!
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I would stick with slx 22 as everyday pole. It is very robust and good value.
The extreme pole needs treating gently to avoid damage. A good option though if you are having joint issues or other aches and pains.
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I'd go for smax 50
i,ve both smax 50 and extreme 47 and very little difference when working
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I'd go for smax 50
i,ve both smax 50 and extreme 47 and very little difference when working
theres a massive difference mate...ive had both poles.....the smax is both heavier and much more bendy....in fact its unusable for high level solar panels or high level skylights(the bend in the pole is that bad it catches on the gutters),no problem with the xtreme,less bend and much lighter too.....
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When you are working at that height you want the best lightest poles your body will thank you for it,when you ring up just ask 2 questions what’s the lightest stiffest pole you do please you could always call Ionic I think they do a line in scaffold poles 🤣🤣
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When you are working at that height you want the best lightest poles your body will thank you for it,when you ring up just ask 2 questions what’s the lightest stiffest pole you do please you could always call Ionic I think they do a line in scaffold poles 🤣🤣
Not strictly true, the Ultimate is better than the Xtreme at height despite being heavier.
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When you are working at that height you want the best lightest poles your body will thank you for
it,when you ring up just ask 2 questions what’s the lightest stiffest pole you do please you could
always call Ionic I think they do a line in scaffold
poles 🤣🤣
Not strictly true, the Ultimate is better than the Xtreme at height despite being heavier.
At what height does the Ultimate make a difference. If you are comparing the 47ft X3 Extreme against the 46 Ultimate I bet the difference is minimal. I can understand as you start to 60 - 70 ft the rigidity of the Ultimate would come into its own.
T
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When you are working at that height you want the best lightest poles your body will thank you for
it,when you ring up just ask 2 questions what’s the lightest stiffest pole you do please you could
always call Ionic I think they do a line in scaffold
poles 🤣🤣
Not strictly true, the Ultimate is better than the Xtreme at height despite being heavier.
At what height does the Ultimate make a difference. If you are comparing the 47ft X3 Extreme against the 46 Ultimate I bet the difference is minimal. I can understand as you start to 60 - 70 ft the rigidity of the Ultimate would come into its own.
T
Not sure, anything over 35’ I avoid. But you’re probably right, the benefit of the rigidity in the Ultimate pole will be more noticeable the higher you go.
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Cheers guys. It seems to me the infrequent amount of times I will use it plus the minimal difference at around 40 feet plus on top of that it being lighter and me now in my 40’s becoming an old fart (Lol) that it’s a no brainer and to go for the Extreme 47.
Silly question but could I just take the 4 sections off and use that as my everyday pole also? As this will work out cheaper than buying the Extreme 25 and buying 4 extensions.
I believe the 47 foot has 9 sections so I could just take 4 off (or maybe just 3 if it’s that much lighter)
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If you use those sections of the extreme as your every day pole do not expect to get much more than a year out of them. OK if you are prepared to replace sections every 12 months or so.
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Maybe just keep it as a whole pole then and will last for years if I just use for high rise only. Maybe stick with my SLX 22 for everyday pole. I can’t justify spending £1362 and the other sections not lasting long.
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Cheers guys. It seems to me the infrequent amount of times I will use it plus the minimal difference at around 40 feet plus on top of that it being lighter and me now in my 40’s becoming an old fart (Lol) that it’s a no brainer and to go for the Extreme 47.
Silly question but could I just take the 4 sections off and use that as my everyday pole also? As this will work out cheaper than buying the Extreme 25 and buying 4 extensions.
I believe the 47 foot has 9 sections so I could just take 4 off (or maybe just 3 if it’s that much lighter)
You would need to buy a new base section if you re gonna do that..the first 3 xtreme sections will be knackered after a year if you use it as your main pole too...
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I appreciate they are good poles but I hear so much they don’t last long.... £1362 you would think they would last longer. Blimey. Appreciate they have to get the balance with them being super light etc but even so....
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When you are working at that height you want the best lightest poles your body will thank you for it,when you ring up just ask 2 questions what’s the lightest stiffest pole you do please you could always call Ionic I think they do a line in scaffold poles 🤣🤣
Not strictly true, the Ultimate is better than the Xtreme at height despite being heavier.
Quite agree it’s much better for high work , stiffer , and less affected by wind , less effort to use as you arnt fighting the bend in the pole like you do with an extream I also found the extream hit the gutters when used for solar panels the ultimate doesn’t had the 10 inch carbon goose neck on both poles too
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When you are working at that height you want the best lightest poles your body will thank you for
it,when you ring up just ask 2 questions what’s the lightest stiffest pole you do please you could
always call Ionic I think they do a line in scaffold
poles 🤣🤣
Not strictly true, the Ultimate is better than the Xtreme at height despite being heavier.
At what height does the Ultimate make a difference. If you are comparing the 47ft X3 Extreme against the 46 Ultimate I bet the difference is minimal. I can understand as you start to 60 - 70 ft the rigidity of the Ultimate would come into its own.
T
The ultimate is much stiffer at all heights than an extream but the higher you go the worse the extream is for bend and sideways bend as well ,
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I have a 35ft extreme as well as others at different height and the 35 is bendy it’s best height is 25ft it’s as stiff as a broom,I wouldn’t want to go higher than 35ft with that pole it’s a bit like wrestling a big fish unless it’s a completely still day.
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Ive got the old super max 47ft compact dont think they make them any more had it years upgraded to the smart clamps still going strong must say its very bendy at full stretch hard to control i only use it when there is zero wind ;D
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I used my 35 extreme today it’s far too whippy.
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Maybe just keep it as a whole pole then and will last for years if I just use for high rise only. Maybe stick with my SLX 22 for everyday pole. I can’t justify spending £1362 and the other sections not lasting long.
If your doing work this high then it needs to be priced for the use of equipment - justifying the spend for doing the work doesn't come into it
Problem comes if you charging cheaply for this type of work
Darran
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The higher you go the more it costs I had this conversation with a customer today I basically said poles for that kind of height ie 35ft + cost a lot of money,charging more for using a pole of this height helps recoup some.
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You'd be daft not charging more for higher level work, poles cost more. Not so easy to work high as low in winds and gusty weather. and more tiring so need to justify the extra pricing for the extra difficulty otherwise why bother!
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Cheers for that guys. TBH it is actually well priced and provides a nice yearly income. So basically I need to stop being a tight wad and buy the pole I need Lol.