Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on February 21, 2021, 05:50:00 pm
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Does anyone know if cleaner planner would work for a franchisee?
Ive only ever used it as a single operator and i think you can pay extra for multiple operators ? but would this allow a franchisee to be able to login and run his own round or would they need a copy in their own name. I would obviously lik to be able to see what they are recording so having their own copy wouldnt really work....
Im guessing some of you will have it setup for multiple users for staff so what exactly can the staff see ? is it enough to add new work and run a round day to day ?
thanks
NWH please dont start ;D
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were set up for multiple users - the lads have there own tablet and download their work each day - uploading all the details at the end of the day - they can add notes alter price charged but not much else - we don't need them to - prices can be shown or hidden
I can log in from my Mac book or iPad while the other half is logged in on the Mac we can both have control over all the operations but I would think you would be best running cleaner planner and letting just download the work each day
Darran
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were set up for multiple users - the lads have there own tablet and download their work each day - uploading all the details at the end of the day - they can add notes alter price charged but not much else - we don't need them to - prices can be shown or hidden
I can log in from my Mac book or iPad while the other half is logged in on the Mac we can both have control over all the operations but I would think you would be best running cleaner planner and letting just download the work each day
Darran
Thanks, i would really need them to be able to move stuff about and organise as they see fit as they are essentially running their own business and if i have to sort worksheets its kind of defeats the purpose.
I will ask cleaner planner if this is possible for them to have more permission, if not i may need to look at other alternatives.
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Actually i could always open a fresh CP account if needs be but in my name then just give them the login......that way they can use it as if it were their own but it ultimately belongs to me.
good thinking eh
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yes each franchise has its own copy but you have access to it - job done
Darran
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If you are going to franchise you need to pay for the software. The person who pays for the software owns the customer base.
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If you are going to franchise you need to pay for the software. The person who pays for the software owns the customer base.
Yes , makes total sense thanks
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Hi Stoots
I have Cleaner Planner and franchise.
Each franchisee has their own account and I can switch to any account via a drop down menu. I can move work anywhere and between accounts.
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Hi Stoots
I have Cleaner Planner and franchise.
Each franchisee has their own account and I can switch to any account via a drop down menu. I can move work anywhere and between accounts.
Thanks
When you say their own account you mean you had to set up multiple accounts, 1 for each franchise or can you add them as a "user" the same way you would an employee?
Also do you pay for the accounts and have them in your name or theirs?
I take it each franchisee is not able to see the other accounts when they log in?
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Hi Stoots
I have Cleaner Planner and franchise.
Each franchisee has their own account and I can switch to any account via a drop down menu. I can move work anywhere and between accounts.
Thanks
When you say their own account you mean you had to set up multiple accounts, 1 for each franchise or can you add them as a "user" the same way you would an employee?
Also do you pay for the accounts and have them in your name or theirs?
I take it each franchisee is not able to see the other accounts when they log in?
Each franchisee has their own account so I have 7 accounts including mine. I use a drop down menu to flick between accounts.
The accounts are changing to be in the business name and I will pay for the yearly subscription. The reason for this has already been outlined above ;)
I wanted each franchisee to have their own account as the GoCardless is synced to their cleaner planner.
I’m not keen on centralised banking and when I approached a VAT specialist on the matter, he advised for each franchisee to have their own bank account.
For me if they have their own cleaner planner, GoCardless account and bank account. That to me on paper and in operation separates me enough to call it a franchise.
If I started organising their work, sorting out jobs, paying them and acting as an “agent” you could say they might as well be employed.
I have separated my self from them as much as I can and I have further plans in place for that.
The last thing I want is the HMRC classing it as tax/vat avoidance and calculating literally hundreds of thousands of pounds of turnover which is classed as mine!
Lastly, no they can’t see each other’s planner.
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Stoots it will be nothing to do with you m8 mind you never know they’ll probably let you look,they are bound to be stupid enough too lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I separate myself as much as I can 🤣🤣 this is why people go this route lol,the Taxman ain’t stupid he will look for the slightest involvement just before he bends you over and says let me see your hands on the knees please.
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Hi Stoots
I have Cleaner Planner and franchise.
Each franchisee has their own account and I can switch to any account via a drop down menu. I can move work anywhere and between accounts.
Thanks
When you say their own account you mean you had to set up multiple accounts, 1 for each franchise or can you add them as a "user" the same way you would an employee?
Also do you pay for the accounts and have them in your name or theirs?
I take it each franchisee is not able to see the other accounts when they log in?
Each franchisee has their own account so I have 7 accounts including mine. I use a drop down menu to flick between accounts.
The accounts are changing to be in the business name and I will pay for the yearly subscription. The reason for this has already been outlined above ;)
I wanted each franchisee to have their own account as the GoCardless is synced to their cleaner planner.
I’m not keen on centralised banking and when I approached a VAT specialist on the matter, he advised for each franchisee to have their own bank account.
For me if they have their own cleaner planner, GoCardless account and bank account. That to me on paper and in operation separates me enough to call it a franchise.
If I started organising their work, sorting out jobs, paying them and acting as an “agent” you could say they might as well be employed.
I have separated my self from them as much as I can and I have further plans in place for that.
The last thing I want is the HMRC classing it as tax/vat avoidance and calculating literally hundreds of thousands of pounds of turnover which is classed as mine!
Lastly, no they can’t see each other’s planner.
Thanks, they would definitely have their own bank account and go cardless, just the cleaner planner would be in my name then....yes i heard about people acting as an agent, i dont fancy that either.
spoke to someone today who is interested, seems promising so will see how it goes.
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I separate myself as much as I can 🤣🤣 this is why people go this route lol,the Taxman ain’t stupid he will look for the slightest involvement just before he bends you over and says let me see your hands on the knees please.
Lol, you do realise franchising is perfectly legal right?You know window cleaners didn’t invent franchising lol.
You know HMRC literally tells you on their website how to calculate it all :D ;D
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Yeah I know its legal but then again that doesn’t make it a sensible decision for someone that buys into it does it,when they sign up do they get a blue badge to put in the front window of the van when they park up in town.