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Title: Selling my van
Post by: Steve Weatherley on January 16, 2021, 08:31:32 pm
I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro 2900CDi Sport (owned from new) with Pure Freedom 650l delivery 2 man system. Thinking of selling it but not sure how much to advertise it for.
Full service history from main dealer and it's done just over 30,000 miles. I have just finished paying for it so it's time for a change to benefit from the tax relief a new van will bring.
Any ideas??
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on January 16, 2021, 08:38:49 pm
Any ideas?
Yep, keep it and enjoy another 5+ years of free motoring in a one owner, ultra low mileage, lovely van!
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: simon w on January 16, 2021, 08:47:29 pm
Any ideas?
Yep, keep it and enjoy another 5+ years of free motoring in a one owner, ultra low mileage, lovely van!

That crossed my mind too  ;D
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Ched on January 16, 2021, 09:10:02 pm
Just the van on it's own would be about £12K +vat. Plus the system.
To be honest if the van is reliable and you know the history so I would keep it. Save the money.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Steve Weatherley on January 16, 2021, 09:13:45 pm
keep van. Higher profits - more tax due
sell and buy new - lower profits - less tax due

plus a nice new van ;D
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on January 16, 2021, 09:19:10 pm
keep van. Higher profits - more tax due
sell and buy new - lower profits - less tax due

plus a nice new van ;D

Keep van, work less.👍
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Ched on January 16, 2021, 09:21:56 pm
keep van. Higher profits - more tax due
sell and buy new - lower profits - less tax due

plus a nice new van ;D
At worst the tax is 40% so you keep 60% in your pocket!!!!!
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: NWH on January 16, 2021, 10:05:00 pm
keep van. Higher profits - more tax due
sell and buy new - lower profits - less tax due

plus a nice new van ;D
Yes Steve and get rid of it before the problems start keep the Tax bill down and you get to drive a new van again 👍.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Spruce on January 17, 2021, 07:36:14 am
keep van. Higher profits - more tax due
sell and buy new - lower profits - less tax due

plus a nice new van ;D

I've never really understood this. The tax man doesn't give you zip. He always takes. He lets you claim relief on new assets but you have had to earn the money to pay for that asset to begin with.

I go with winproclean, work less and keep the van a little longer.
There is more to life than being a servant to material possessions.

The motor trade won't agree, but that's because they need the sales. They use tax relief as a sales bait to sell new vehicles.

"Plus a nice new van." You are letting emotions drive you.

I'm not saying don't buy another van, that's your decision. But it needs to be for the right logical reasons. Decisions based on emotions aren't usually the best decisions imho.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Spruce on January 17, 2021, 07:56:40 am
Just the van on it's own would be about £12K +vat. Plus the system.
To be honest if the van is reliable and you know the history so I would keep it. Save the money.

If he leaves the system in he limits his pool of buyers to window cleaners. Mr average window cleaner doesn't have that kind of money lying around or have access to that amount of credit.
So the system inside would probably reduce the value of the van.

Things could well have changed but in my motor trade days the van would be valued without the system and then the value reduced to account for labour costs to remove it and re- plylining the floor.

The system would be advertised on ebay for whatever they felt they could sell it for.
If memory serves me this is what happened to some of a fleet of window cleaning vans sold at auction from a company that went into liquidation a few years back now.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 17, 2021, 08:58:47 am
I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro 2900CDi Sport (owned from new) with Pure Freedom 650l delivery 2 man system. Thinking of selling it but not sure how much to advertise it for.
Full service history from main dealer and it's done just over 30,000 miles. I have just finished paying for it so it's time for a change to benefit from the tax relief a new van will bring.
Any ideas??

What colour is it Steve? I am interested
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 17, 2021, 09:07:53 am
I think someone just wants a new van. The fact that Lee is interested as a fleet owner is testament to its viability to continue being used.

Me? My van was bought new in 2012 and I still run it at 54000 miles. I have loot to one side for another but probably won't.

But it was nice buying new. If I were younger I might do it again but my original plan was to keep it 10/12 years if it was reliable. Which it is. So far.

It's pretty much depreciated out at ten years so each year is a bonus.

It also has a cam chain so I have saved at least one belt replacement so far.

But don't feel guilty for having a new van. Different courses for different horses!
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 17, 2021, 11:03:22 am
keep van. Higher profits - more tax due
sell and buy new - lower profits - less tax due

plus a nice new van ;D
At worst the tax is 40% so you keep 60% in your pocket!!!!!
+ NI contribution @ 9%
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Phil J on January 17, 2021, 12:47:20 pm
I can't understand why people constantly want a car(van) payment, it's paid for, keep it and stick the payment money in you're retirement account and enjoy life.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Steve Weatherley on January 17, 2021, 12:53:20 pm
We all have different curcumstances and different agendas...
To be clear I wasn't asking anyone fir advice if I should sell so those comments are ignored.
I'm asking valuation ideas

The Van is grey btw
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Mike Burd on January 17, 2021, 01:41:07 pm
We all have different curcumstances and different agendas...
To be clear I wasn't asking anyone fir advice if I should sell so those comments are ignored.
I'm asking valuation ideas

The Van is grey btw
I reckon Lee will have that then. I'd have been interested if it was white.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: david mark on January 17, 2021, 02:12:57 pm
I have the same van will be paid off in April but keeping it. It has 30,000 miles .only problem ive had
Is the DPF filer has to be regenerated,plus back door latch are poorly paid
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: NWH on January 17, 2021, 02:34:12 pm
Just map out that filter they are a pain in the A**e the regeneration doesn’t work most of the time,VW now have a machine to clean them  when they go in for a service etc.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 17, 2021, 03:42:14 pm
I can't understand why people constantly want a car(van) payment, it's paid for, keep it and stick the payment money in you're retirement account and enjoy life.
It’s each to their own isn’t it, some folk like new cars/vans every 3-4 years, some prefer to be more frugal and put money into savings etc. Buying new cars isn’t the wisest decision from a financial point of view, but if it makes you happy and you can afford it, why not?
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 17, 2021, 03:52:35 pm
I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro 2900CDi Sport (owned from new) with Pure Freedom 650l delivery 2 man system. Thinking of selling it but not sure how much to advertise it for.
Full service history from main dealer and it's done just over 30,000 miles. I have just finished paying for it so it's time for a change to benefit from the tax relief a new van will bring.
Any ideas??
I would be taking the system out and putting it in the new van. At today’s inflated prices I reckon you could get 11-12K for the van ( if there’s no VAT ) private sale.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Steve Weatherley on January 17, 2021, 04:10:46 pm
Yes I am considering that as an option. It's fitted by Pure Freedom so not straight forward though.....but is an option
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 17, 2021, 04:28:40 pm
Yes I am considering that as an option. It's fitted by Pure Freedom so not straight forward though.....but is an option
If you’re unsure of taking it out yourself take it to a local garage, using their ramps they will have it out in no time. Then they can re fit it in to your new van. Sometimes this requires dropping the fuel tank but it’s no problem when the vans up on the ramp.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: NWH on January 17, 2021, 04:31:55 pm
To put in and take out a cold system as you say not a problem but a different scenario with a hot system.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: robbo333 on January 17, 2021, 05:09:22 pm
Personally I would keep it.
My mate is a builder. Purchased a New Ford Ranger pickup, with all the extra sexy extras, plus he purchased a huge trailer.
Sold all the old vans and flatbeds he had.
It seemed like the perfect setup for his business.
10,000 miles in and he's had 2 new engines and a new turbo. Three times it has been back to Fords. Yes it's all been replaced but no care from Fords, replacement vans are all wrong, blah blah blah. I can't describe how pi55ed off he is. Trouble is, he is so busy, he doesn't have time to take Fords through legal action. Fords don't give a toss. They will buy it back at no money and sell him another for top whack!...Seriously!!!
Keep the van you have.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 17, 2021, 05:21:46 pm
We all have different curcumstances and different agendas...
To be clear I wasn't asking anyone fir advice if I should sell so those comments are ignored.
I'm asking valuation ideas

The Van is grey btw

In that case I am very interested. Feel free to contact me at my office tomorrow Steve. 01342 841842 or info @pryors-uk.com

Have money now and happy to collect or arrange a driver to collect.

Lee
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: simon w on January 17, 2021, 05:45:16 pm
Make sure you get a good price for it Steve. Which part of the UK  are you from btw? I might be interested i it falls through with Lee

 
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: H2GoKent on January 17, 2021, 08:17:50 pm
We all have different curcumstances and different agendas...
To be clear I wasn't asking anyone fir advice if I should sell so those comments are ignored.
I'm asking valuation ideas

The Van is grey btw

In that case I am very interested. Feel free to contact me at my office tomorrow Steve. 01342 841842 or info @pryors-uk.com

Have money now and happy to collect or arrange a driver to collect.

Lee

I know that van! It's pretty spotless and Steve looks after it. Doesn't let water slosh around in the back like I do  ;D
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 19, 2021, 08:35:11 am
Bump


Hi Steve

I am happy to take this mate if you want to contact me.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Gringo on January 19, 2021, 09:35:36 am
Make sure you get a good price for it Steve. Which part of the UK  are you from btw? I might be interested i it falls through with Lee
Well get in there and buy van before Lee, its business, don't be waiting around patiently in the queue
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: TomCrowther on January 19, 2021, 04:16:59 pm
It's amazing how much a decent, low mileage second hand van is worth today.  So much demand for them.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: dazmond on January 19, 2021, 07:40:13 pm
It's amazing how much a decent, low mileage second hand van is worth today.  So much demand for them.

I know!mine will only have 16k on the clock  by the time my 5 year lease is up next year....I've seen the same year connect L2 240 Limited going for £13 or £14k with 22k miles on  the clock!
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: deeege on January 19, 2021, 09:41:12 pm
It's amazing how much a decent, low mileage second hand van is worth today.  So much demand for them.

I know!mine will only have 16k on the clock  by the time my 5 year lease is up next year....I've seen the same year connect L2 240 Limited going for £13 or £14k with 22k miles on  the clock!

Not good for you then Daz, it’ll mean the bubble that you pay at the end of the lease will be inflated as it goes by current market value.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: dazmond on January 20, 2021, 07:31:14 am
It's amazing how much a decent, low mileage second hand van is worth today.  So much demand for them.

I know!mine will only have 16k on the clock  by the time my 5 year lease is up next year....I've seen the same year connect L2 240 Limited going for £13 or £14k with 22k miles on  the clock!

Not good for you then Daz, it’ll mean the bubble that you pay at the end of the lease will be inflated as it goes by current market value.

No it doesn't!my balloon payment is £7k mate....👍its written in the contract.....
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: dazmond on January 20, 2021, 08:01:54 am
It's just under £7k(including VAT).
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Tom-01 on January 20, 2021, 09:24:13 am
It's amazing how much a decent, low mileage second hand van is worth today.  So much demand for them.

I can’t believe it. I bought a brand new VW Highline LWB T32, 140PS in 2016 for £20,500 +VAT.

Just had a quick look now, the same age and higher mileage on a T28 102PS is £20k +VAT!

I was looking to convert my current one to a camper and get a new one for work but the prices are so high at the moment.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: NWH on January 20, 2021, 02:45:44 pm
Yeah and when you walk into a VW commercial dealer they’ll say we’ve got a couple of low mileage ones in 2 years old 70 thow on the clock if you’re interested 🤣🤣,I’d much rather for go the low mileage and pay more 70000 miles is a lot of journeys 2 years old or not mileage is mileage.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: NWH on January 20, 2021, 02:49:19 pm
It can look like a brand new van at 2 years old in some cases with 70k on the clock,that won’t stop in probably needing a clutch in the next 15k though.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: EandM on January 21, 2021, 06:43:35 pm
Personally I would keep it.
My mate is a builder. Purchased a New Ford Ranger pickup, with all the extra sexy extras, plus he purchased a huge trailer.
Sold all the old vans and flatbeds he had.
It seemed like the perfect setup for his business.
10,000 miles in and he's had 2 new engines and a new turbo. Three times it has been back to Fords. Yes it's all been replaced but no care from Fords, replacement vans are all wrong, blah blah blah. I can't describe how pi55ed off he is. Trouble is, he is so busy, he doesn't have time to take Fords through legal action. Fords don't give a toss. They will buy it back at no money and sell him another for top whack!...Seriously!!!
Keep the van you have.

Before 2011 the Ford Ranger was made by Mazda. It was pretty well bomb proof too.
I have two but I don't think I'd buy one from Ford.
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Steve Weatherley on February 03, 2021, 02:40:55 pm
Make sure you get a good price for it Steve. Which part of the UK  are you from btw? I might be interested i it falls through with Lee

Still available if you're interested get in touch with me
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 03, 2021, 04:04:57 pm
Make sure you get a good price for it Steve. Which part of the UK  are you from btw? I might be interested i it falls through with Lee

Still available if you're interested get in touch with me

Thought Lee Pryor had cash waiting?🤔
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Rogue Trader on February 03, 2021, 07:47:07 pm
how much u want for it Steve?
Title: Re: Selling my van
Post by: Rogue Trader on February 03, 2021, 07:47:36 pm
is it swb or lwb?