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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: zesty on December 07, 2020, 02:49:28 pm
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Me not taking it, profits are good 👍🏼
If there is a sudden downturn between now and January 31st, i will take it.
What about you lads?
I’ve spoken to a few local window cleaners who are claiming it. Suprised they are as I can’t imagine many of them having ‘significantly reduced profits’.
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I took it due to losing some work over covid 19 some of which were industrial jobs and some domestic customers who are cutting back due loss of their jobs
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Took the previous two, won’t be claiming this one.
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Not yet.
I'm almost at the end of two weeks off but is that significant enough to claim?
Another two weeks off because of the virus and I will be claiming it.
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Would if I was eligible, as my profits are still down, but only marginally so now.
Didn’t get anything in round 1 or 2 either.
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Claimed the first but not 2nd or 3rd.
Business is OK. Surprised and relieved not been badly affected.
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Any of you sole traders who take all three just be careful it doesn't push you over the vat threshold if your not wanting or planning on doing so. As I know a lot of window cleaners who work solo try hard to keep just under the threshold.
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Any of you sole traders who take all three just be careful it doesn't push you over the vat threshold if your not wanting or planning on doing so. As I know a lot of window cleaners who work solo try hard to keep just under the threshold.
You have to be under £50k profit to even claim it mate, so no chance anyone on here who is claiming will be anywhere near a turnover of £80k odd.
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Any of you sole traders who take all three just be careful it doesn't push you over the vat threshold if your not wanting or planning on doing so. As I know a lot of window cleaners who work solo try hard to keep just under the threshold.
You have to be under £50k profit to even claim it mate, so no chance anyone on here who is claiming will be anywhere near a turnover of £80k odd.
Get claiming then lads 👍😎
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Any of you sole traders who take all three just be careful it doesn't push you over the vat threshold if your not wanting or planning on doing so. As I know a lot of window cleaners who work solo try hard to keep just under the threshold.
You have to be under £50k profit to even claim it mate, so no chance anyone on here who is claiming will be anywhere near a turnover of £80k odd.
If you you’ve got one employee and just under it would easily take you over so it’s a good shout for a few. Most likely you’re right in the main though
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I'll make a decision in January. My gut feeling is it's all gonna go t!ts up some time about then with a third lockdown not to mention a no deal brexsh!t.
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I have read all the details on the HMRC website and will be claiming the 3rd grant as I lost my commercial work at the beginning of November which would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
With the 3 grants my earnings will be roughly the same as the last tax year, well under the taxable amount.
I do not have proof but am keeping written records of cancelled/lost work.
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I have read all the details on the HMRC website and will be claiming the 3rd grant as I lost my commercial work at the beginning of November which would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
With the 3 grants my earnings will be roughly the same as the last tax year, well under the taxable amount.
I do not have proof but am keeping written records of cancelled/lost work.
The loss of demand is expected to show on your tax year as a whole for the third grant, CC.
I'd bear that in mind, mate.
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Claimed the 1st, not the second and won't be claiming the 3rd. Want to stay off radar if at all possible!
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Take it by all means but i wouldnt spunk it incase they come demanding it back in a years time.
Ive never been eligible so dont have to worry at least.
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It’s not likely they’ll have the resources to come down on many.
The problem would be if your turnover is suddenly £20k odd higher than the last tax year!
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I have read all the details on the HMRC website and will be claiming the 3rd grant as I lost my commercial work at the beginning of November which would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
With the 3 grants my earnings will be roughly the same as the last tax year, well under the taxable amount.
I do not have proof but am keeping written records of cancelled/lost work.
The loss of demand is expected to show on your tax year as a whole for the third grant, CC.
I'd bear that in mind, mate.
Yes, thanks for the heads up.
I was talking about this last lockdown.
My commercial work usually starts in February and ends in November but I only did a couple of weeks and then the site closed down for April, May and June. I never did start back cleaning insides again so my earnings are well down, I have not totted everything up including the grants though but suspect my earnings will be similar to the previous year.
The first grant was £800 just to put things into perspective.
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It’s not even an issue in your case CC. Claim it and be safe in the knowledge that you are doing the right thing. The grants are designed exactly for people like you.
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Claimed the 1st, not the second and won't be claiming the 3rd. Want to stay off radar if at all possible!
This is what I've done, I think anyone who didn't claim the 1st one must be mad.
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I have read all the details on the HMRC website and will be claiming the 3rd grant as I lost my commercial work at the beginning of November which would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
With the 3 grants my earnings will be roughly the same as the last tax year, well under the taxable amount.
I do not have proof but am keeping written records of cancelled/lost work.
The loss of demand is expected to show on your tax year as a whole for the third grant, CC.
I'd bear that in mind, mate.
Yes, thanks for the heads up.
I was talking about this last lockdown.
My commercial work usually starts in February and ends in November but I only did a couple of weeks and then the site closed down for April, May and June. I never did start back cleaning insides again so my earnings are well down, I have not totted everything up including the grants though but suspect my earnings will be similar to the previous year.
The first grant was £800 just to put things into perspective.
If your commercial work is normally suspended between November and February anyway, you possibly won’t have any lost income for the period that the 3rd grant covers, 1st November-31st January.
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I have read all the details on the HMRC website and will be claiming the 3rd grant as I lost my commercial work at the beginning of November which would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
With the 3 grants my earnings will be roughly the same as the last tax year, well under the taxable amount.
I do not have proof but am keeping written records of cancelled/lost work.
The loss of demand is expected to show on your tax year as a whole for the third grant, CC.
I'd bear that in mind, mate.
Yes, thanks for the heads up.
I was talking about this last lockdown.
My commercial work usually starts in February and ends in November but I only did a couple of weeks and then the site closed down for April, May and June. I never did start back cleaning insides again so my earnings are well down, I have not totted everything up including the grants though but suspect my earnings will be similar to the previous year.
The first grant was £800 just to put things into perspective.
You need to have been affected from the 1st of November and it is expected to show in your end of year accounts.
I don't know how enforceable that is especially for someone like yourself. If you're part time and haven't been going long, that is.
If you've lost customers and income due to co-vid and not sought to replace them and it they can say that you are not eligible.
Again, I don't know how they can prove that or whether they'll try to.
If your earnings are similar to the previous year but were predicted to be higher and weren't because of co-vid you should be eligible. From the 1st of November, that is.
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Is this a coronavirus thread 🧵 big post from you again Griff 😂🤣🤣
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Is this a coronavirus thread 🧵 big post from you again Griff 😂🤣🤣
You da man, Nigel!
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Lol glass half empty kind of chap you Griff 🤣🦠
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Lol glass half empty kind of chap you Griff 🤣🦠
Glass, you mean?
Aye, I can't buy any car that I want :'(.
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Yeah I can m8 sometimes when you know you can have it that’s enough 👌
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Yeah I can m8 sometimes when you know you can have it that’s enough 👌
There's only one way to go now, mate.
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I have read all the details on the HMRC website and will be claiming the 3rd grant as I lost my commercial work at the beginning of November which would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
With the 3 grants my earnings will be roughly the same as the last tax year, well under the taxable amount.
I do not have proof but am keeping written records of cancelled/lost work.
The loss of demand is expected to show on your tax year as a whole for the third grant, CC.
I'd bear that in mind, mate.
Yes, thanks for the heads up.
I was talking about this last lockdown.
My commercial work usually starts in February and ends in November but I only did a couple of weeks and then the site closed down for April, May and June. I never did start back cleaning insides again so my earnings are well down, I have not totted everything up including the grants though but suspect my earnings will be similar to the previous year.
The first grant was £800 just to put things into perspective.
If your commercial work is normally suspended between November and February anyway, you possibly won’t have any lost income for the period that the 3rd grant covers, 1st November-31st January.
Normally it is suspended between November and February but due to the first lockdown the site owners had told all caravan owners that the site would be open until the first week of December as a gesture of goodwill.
So the weekly commercial work would have lasted until December if the camp sites were not told to close. I have also lost some inside work and do not expect them to want me doing the insides until Spring, and a customer last week because she is self isolating and did not want me cleaning there.
I have booked a place on the HMRC Self-Employment Income Support Scheme Grant Extension webinar so will see what the staff there say about it.
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Clean Cloth, be prepared to tell them that you have lost custom but you are trying and willing to replace it.
Even if it is only suspended.
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Speak to an accountant there’s more to it now than just losing work,if you’ve got new work and are earning similar money people I know have been advised not to claim this is why it’s left open till the end of January to see if some people go T**S up in the new year.
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Clean Cloth, be prepared to tell them that you have lost custom but you are trying and willing to replace it.
Even if it is only suspended.
That was the criteria for the second grant claim not this 3rd one.
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Clean Cloth, be prepared to tell them that you have lost custom but you are trying and willing to replace it.
Even if it is only suspended.
That was the criteria for the second grant claim not this 3rd one.
It's not.
The second was adversely affected and the third is loss of demand.
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I would speak to an accountant this 3rd claim is a dodgy one further down the track for people,I would say the majority of window cleaners I’ve spoken to are doing better than before all this apart from commercial only-mainly people.
It should be obvious if you need to claim this 3rd grant by income alone.
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I would speak to an accountant this 3rd claim is a dodgy one further down the track for people,I would say the majority of window cleaners I’ve spoken to are doing better than before all this apart from commercial only-mainly people.
It should be obvious if you need to claim this 3rd grant by income alone.
I agree with your last sentence.
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I spoke to my accountant they literally said its a mindfield. It doesn't state how badly you have to be affected income wise in order to claim. 10% reduction in turnover? 20%? 50% 80%?
Nowhere does it give specifics so i genuinely am struggling to see how they can hold it over peoples heads if the finer details were not made clear enough to those trying to claim.
My turnover is down 15%, which isn't massive, but its still enough to make a blow to the profits each month especially with costs remaining the same. Does that warrant me claiming the third grant? I just don't know what to do.
I dont need the full grant for 80%, i almost wish they could let you choose how much to take. I'd happily take a grant equal to about 40% of the trading profits instead of a higher amount to factor in the lower reduction in turnover i have that isn't a massive amount.
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If you can prove 15% drop in turnover and your overheads are similar then your profits will be significantly effected.
You can prove your figures, you asked your accountant, what else could you do? Claim it. If HMRC ask then worst that can happen is they ask for it back. I can't imagine they would see the financial merit if looking back over 7 years of your accounts. It would be way more expensive than the money they could recover.
If you don't need all the grant put some of it in a savings account in case.
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I spoke to my accountant they literally said its a mindfield. It doesn't state how badly you have to be affected income wise in order to claim. 10% reduction in turnover? 20%? 50% 80%?
Nowhere does it give specifics so i genuinely am struggling to see how they can hold it over peoples heads if the finer details were not made clear enough to those trying to claim.
My turnover is down 15%, which isn't massive, but its still enough to make a blow to the profits each month especially with costs remaining the same. Does that warrant me claiming the third grant? I just don't know what to do.
I dont need the full grant for 80%, i almost wish they could let you choose how much to take. I'd happily take a grant equal to about 40% of the trading profits instead of a higher amount to factor in the lower reduction in turnover i have that isn't a massive amount.
How is your turnover down? If turnover is down and costs are the same then profits are down. Is it significant?
I don't know how they truly gauge whether your profits are down or not. You could be doing less work by choice or end up doing a lot more better paid work next year. How do they define significantly?
If you have fewer customers or customers wanting less done and your prices are the same from November you should be able to claim.
You have until January and you might have a better idea by then. You might get ill, have to isolate etc. If I'm forced to have any more time off I'm going to claim it.
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f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?
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f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?
Me, not a single penny. I would if I was eligible.
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f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?
If you can't work, what are you going to do? ;D
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f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?
Me, not a single penny. I would if I was eligible.
That's one of the things wrong with them. So much help for some- me included- and so little for others.
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Any of you sole traders who take all three just be careful it doesn't push you over the vat threshold if your not wanting or planning on doing so. As I know a lot of window cleaners who work solo try hard to keep just under the threshold.
You have to be under £50k profit to even claim it mate, so no chance anyone on here who is claiming will be anywhere near a turnover of £80k odd.
World of difference between profit and turnover
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There is only one Grant.
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f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?
If you can't work, what are you going to do? ;D
What’s stopping you working?
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Most of us dont need the grant at all.....we re window cleaners!
This business is....
1.recession proof
2.coronavirus proof
Unless of course your mainly commercial and relying on big chunks of income from large jobs.......
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Most of us dont need the grant at all.....we re window cleaners!
This business is....
1.recession proof
2.coronavirus proof
Unless of course your mainly commercial and relying on big chunks of income from large jobs.......
Or your personal circumstances + global pandemic = stay at home.
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Most of us dont need the grant at all.....we re window cleaners!
This business is....
1.recession proof
2.coronavirus proof
Unless of course your mainly commercial and relying on big chunks of income from large jobs.......
Yes mate, keep in mind those that lost and still have lost commercial.
I was £1000 down in March, April, May.
Still effected to this day, but my profits are good, so this 3rd grant isn’t for me at the moment.
There is such a variation in work, it’s a very personal thing
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Around £8k-£10k down in lost work since March. Plenty more have been effected more than me too.
Windows cleaners are coronavirus proof ::)roll
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180k down. Because of a load of hysterical nonsense.
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180k down. Because of a load of hysterical nonsense.
Poor Shrek. ;)
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For those of you unsure if you are eligible to make the claim for the 3rd SEISS grant it is well worth signing up to the 1 hour Webinar.
You can ask questions about your own circumstances.
Also someone asked if you can claim less than 80% of average earnings, you cannot but "there is the option to repay some of the grant if you later find the decrease in earnings is not as bad as expected".
I am clear that I have fewer customers than I would normally expect, resulting in reduced activity due to social distancing or government restrictions, (internal work and a few outside asked me not to clean there because they are at risk) and have one or more commercial contracts that have been cancelled and not replaced despite leaflet dropping looking to replace it.
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For those of you unsure if you are eligible to make the claim for the 3rd SEISS grant it is well worth signing up to the 1 hour Webinar.
You can ask questions about your own circumstances.
Also someone asked if you can claim less than 80% of average earnings, you cannot but "there is the option to repay some of the grant if you later find the decrease in earnings is not as bad as expected".
I am clear that I have fewer customers than I would normally expect, resulting in reduced activity due to social distancing or government restrictions, (internal work and a few outside asked me not to clean there because they are at risk) and have one or more commercial contracts that have been cancelled and not replaced despite leaflet dropping looking to replace it.
Can you send me the link to the webinar please? I looked online and could not find it anywhere.
Thanks
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ive just picked up a nice little commercial job(offices £90)8 weekly.....its only an hours work after the first cleans been taken care of....... :)
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Now now Daz remember eggs and baskets 🧺 m8
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Now now Daz remember eggs and baskets 🧺 m8
its still a small job....an hours work on maintenance cleans......
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For those of you unsure if you are eligible to make the claim for the 3rd SEISS grant it is well worth signing up to the 1 hour Webinar.
You can ask questions about your own circumstances.
Also someone asked if you can claim less than 80% of average earnings, you cannot but "there is the option to repay some of the grant if you later find the decrease in earnings is not as bad as expected".
I am clear that I have fewer customers than I would normally expect, resulting in reduced activity due to social distancing or government restrictions, (internal work and a few outside asked me not to clean there because they are at risk) and have one or more commercial contracts that have been cancelled and not replaced despite leaflet dropping looking to replace it.
Can you send me the link to the webinar please? I looked online and could not find it anywhere.
Thanks
The link should be in the email that HMRC send you. Not so sure its worth me copying and pasting the link as i think it is personalised with a reference.
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Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was. So much conflicting information.
This is something they published though on a Presentation.
3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL
Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.
Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.
Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.
This Example D worrys me. How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand. But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.
WTF. Guess we are all screwed guys.
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Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was. So much conflicting information.
This is something they published though on a Presentation.
3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL
Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.
Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.
Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.
This Example D worrys me. How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand. But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.
WTF. Guess we are all screwed guys.
Bollox. You tried to get more but couldn't. The government pandemic forced businesses to close which has caused mass unemployment leading to a reduction in demand.
If I was Liz I'd be claiming. Screw them.
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Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was. So much conflicting information.
This is something they published though on a Presentation.
3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL
Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.
Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.
Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.
This Example D worrys me. How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand. But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.
WTF. Guess we are all screwed guys.
But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .
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Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was. So much conflicting information.
This is something they published though on a Presentation.
3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL
Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.
Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.
Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.
This Example D worrys me. How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand. But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.
WTF. Guess we are all screwed guys.
But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .
Mullion Cove Hotel? Hmm.... might have to put a tender in for £500 :D
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Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was. So much conflicting information.
This is something they published though on a Presentation.
3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL
Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.
Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.
Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.
This Example D worrys me. How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand. But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.
WTF. Guess we are all screwed guys.
But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .
Mullion Cove Hotel? Hmm.... might have to put a tender in for £500 :D
No that’s a lot more than that 😂😂😂 I was using that figure as an example , we don’t qualify for the grant anyway ,pity really as we have a couple of dozen jobs much bigger than that that have been stop start since March .
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Just been on the HMRC Webinar and what a load of poope that was. So much conflicting information.
This is something they published though on a Presentation.
3. Situations not meeting the eligibility criteria
Example A: increased costs
Chloe is an electrician; she’s still trading but has had increased costs due to buying masks,
cleaning supplies and screens.
Chloe is not eligible for the third grant because increased costs were the only impact on her
business, and she has not lost customers.
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
Third grant
OFFICIAL
Example B: self-isolating following trip abroad
Ash, a dentist, returns from a holiday abroad and has to self-isolate for 14 days due to
quarantine rules.
As this is the only impact on her business, Ash is not eligible to claim the third grant. This is
because reduced demand due to self-isolation after foreign travel is not included in the
eligibility criteria.
Example C: voluntary reduction in business activity
John, an accountant, reduces his business activity because he wants to partially retire. He
reasonably believes this will have a significant reduction on his trading profits.
John is not eligible for third grant because the reduced business activity was not caused by
coronavirus.
Example D: voluntary reduction in business activity
Liz is a dog walker. One of her clients cancels a contract due to coronavirus. Liz could look
for additional work to replace the contract, but she chooses not to.
This means her business activity and her trading profits are reduced through choice, and not
because of coronavirus.
Liz is not eligible for the third grant.
This Example D worrys me. How many of us claimed on the basis of lost work/contracts/demand. But they are now saying that if you didn't replace the work, then you chose not to increase your income, so therefore you are not elligle.
WTF. Guess we are all screwed guys.
But if you temporarily have a job cancel let’s say a hotel as they have to shut and the clean price is £600 every 4 weeks , you cannot easily replace that , Evan if you picked up 10 x£20 houses you are still out of pocket so you should be able to claim .
Mullion Cove Hotel? Hmm.... might have to put a tender in for £500 :D
No that’s a lot more than that 😂😂😂 I was using that figure as an example , we don’t qualify for the grant anyway ,pity really as we have a couple of dozen jobs much bigger than that that have been stop start since March .
You da man😂😂
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f*** me. How many grants are you guys getting?
If you can't work, what are you going to do? ;D
What’s stopping you working?
Me personally? Isolating, schools closing and shops and restaurants closing.
I reckon others will have similar reasons or they might have even had the virus.
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.
Zesty said “a lot more self employed” not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...
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It is a self employed grant ;D.
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
Providing they can show on their tax returns they've earn't less due to the covid not easy to do for most WC as we've had a free hand to get out and work throughout
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Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.
Zesty said “a lot more self employed” not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...
I assume he was referring to window cleaners though? Tier 4 restrictions make no difference to domestic window cleaners. I'm in tier 4 but cleaning domestics in tiers 2 & 4. One of my guys lives in tier 2 and will be cleaning in 2 & 4.
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Hard call really wife got it so had to isolate for 14 days. so will be down 2 weeks work. Not a lot really. Claimed the last 2 grants as a few customers had to isolate and put a price increase on hold till next year.
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.
Zesty said “a lot more self employed” not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...
I assume he was referring to window cleaners though? Tier 4 restrictions make no difference to domestic window cleaners. I'm in tier 4 but cleaning domestics in tiers 2 & 4. One of my guys lives in tier 2 and will be cleaning in 2 & 4.
How can you be so sure that other domestic window cleaners aren’t affected?
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I think the tier 4 restrictions are going to mean a lot more self employed taking the the 3rd grant.
I’m not self employed but it won’taffect us as we’re domestic pretty much.
Zesty said “a lot more self employed” not “just 8weekly on the window cleaning forum”...
I assume he was referring to window cleaners though? Tier 4 restrictions make no difference to domestic window cleaners. I'm in tier 4 but cleaning domestics in tiers 2 & 4. One of my guys lives in tier 2 and will be cleaning in 2 & 4.
How can you be so sure that other domestic window cleaners aren’t affected?
Because I know lots around here and absolutely none of them are.
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Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣
Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?
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I put this in the other non cleaning section, hope it’s ok to put it on here?
Most won’t understand a word of it anyway 😂
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1608535503_4A250908-B5BA-4911-8989-C6F4B523CE9E.jpeg)
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Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣
Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?
No never I bet you are loving this new strain 🤣🤣🤣
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Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣
Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?
No never I bet you are loving this new strain 🤣🤣🤣
No, it's worrying.
Not as worrying as someone not using hot water, doing compact work or you getting bullied though :'(.
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Griff is this to do with coronavirus by any chance 🤣
Sort of.
Are you still getting bullied, Nigel?
No never I bet you are loving this new strain 🤣🤣🤣
That's funny. ;D
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12 months time who’s claiming the 20th grant 🤣🤣🤣
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12 months time who’s claiming the 20th grant 🤣🤣🤣
I take it maths isn’t your strong point? That would equate to a further 16 grants in an 8 month period🤣🤣🤣
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My maths is good enough to know that I do ok 👍.
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12 months time who’s claiming the 20th grant 🤣🤣🤣
I take it maths isn’t your strong point? That would equate to a further 16 grants in an 8 month period🤣🤣🤣
Add to that being able to string coherent sentences together. My theory is that NWH is a Russian Spambot gone wrong.
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Just get out and clean windows we work outside this hasn’t affected me since the beginning of April work wise I’ve been carrying on as normal,if anything because there’s nothing open I’ve been working more like many other.
Builders are the same they’ve never been busier this Virus if anything has brought out the snowflakes,I think we are all in for a white Christmas 🎄 🤣🤣
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My maths is good enough to know that I do ok 👍.
Aye, thanks to your wife😉
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Now now if you look over your shoulder I think that’s a green eyed monster behind you lol.
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Ken Dodds maths was terrible too he did ok 🤣.
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Ken Dodds maths was terrible too he did ok 🤣.
Thanks to The Diddy Men.