Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tonyoliver on December 02, 2020, 10:18:25 am
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I have some London pubs used to charge 100 every two weeks lots of work but well paid nice jobs
Now after covid I get 60 a month which is their budget for cleaning
I am 140 a month down x 8 pubs
What would you do keep em
Dump em
Or just suck it up as the new normal
Will take a while to build up new work to replace anyone had this
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I have some London pubs used to charge 100 every two weeks lots of work but well paid nice jobs
Now after covid I get 60 a month which is their budget for cleaning
I am 140 a month down x 8 pubs
What would you do keep em
Dump em
Or just suck it up as the new normal
Will take a while to build up new work to replace anyone had this
Do them and claim the grant until you can replace them.
That's what the grant is for :).
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I would do them on the understanding that when all this covid blows over and they are back to normal they go back up to £100
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I would replace them with domestic work. Sod commercial, youve just lost a grand a month that would never happen that fast with domestic.
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Simple, would you quote £30 for a clean on the pubs? If yes stick with it, if no then IF you can find work that pays as well dump them. Once they get used to paying £60 a month why would they go back to £200 a month???
Maybe offer to do then once a month for £60 till say Easter then back to normal prices as a goodwill gesture.
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If you agree to the £60 then they will never go back to £100 per clean
Secondly I think it looks bad on your part being able to drop the price significantly like that - if I were the customer I would think your original price was a pee take..
How come the budget has dropped - I'm getting work for cleaning and it's "money no object" just needs doing for COVID ...
Darran
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Offer to change the frequency so onece a month for £120 or offer to do just the outs for £60.00 a fortnight 40% drop per clean is to much for any one.
I priced a job for sharps bedrooms they wanted an in and out monthly price.I gave them a price which was more than their budget so I offered just the outs to suit there budget and they accepted.
You get what you pay for.
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If you agree to the £60 then they will never go back to £100 per clean
Secondly I think it looks bad on your part being able to drop the price significantly like that - if I were the customer I would think your original price was a pee take..
How come the budget has dropped - I'm getting work for cleaning and it's "money no object" just needs doing for COVID ...
Darran
Very true that how can you justify doing them for that then putting them back up to the original,if you had plenty of work in their eyes you wouldn’t continue to clean them for the 60.
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Personally I’d carry on at the new lower price if you could get in writing that the price goes back up in spring.
It’s a risk obviously but the hospitality industry is hurting at the moment, having clean windows isn’t top of their worries right now.
I’ve got a few pubs/restaurants that have been on hold for a while now. A couple of them I’ve cleaned free of charge as I know they are really struggling and I like the owners
I run a business not a charity blah blah blah but for a couple of hours of my time it’s worth it for future karma.
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I have some London pubs used to charge 100 every two weeks lots of work but well paid nice jobs
Now after covid I get 60 a month which is their budget for cleaning
I am 140 a month down x 8 pubs
What would you do keep em
Dump em
Or just suck it up as the new normal
Will take a while to build up new work to replace anyone had this
personally i wouldnt of took the work on in the first place....i like my eggs in lots of different,smaller baskets......but i dont see what you can do really apart from suck it up.......its a lot of money to lose out on every month...only you can decide......you can guarantee they will be "grudge" cleans from now on!not a nice place to be!
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Do them every other time for £120
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Also, a lot would depend on who owns the pubs.
If they are part of a large chain and listed on the stock market etc then I’d be less likely to do them any favours than if they are privately owned freehouses.
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I feel for the commercial boys to an extent someone’s gonna clean them but imo you shouldn’t put all your eggs in 1 basket as Daz says,I learnt this years ago.
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I feel for the commercial boys to an extent someone’s gonna clean them but imo you shouldn’t put all your eggs in 1 basket as Daz says,I learnt this years ago.
Me too, learnt the hard way but never forgot it.
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Thats a Bar steward , i think they have you over a barrel on that one
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You can't be bitter about it and let it dampen your spirits though. It happens all the time, gentlemen, please.
Look at your glass as half full.
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You can't be bitter about it and let it dampen your spirits though. It happens all the time, gentlemen, please.
Look at your glass as half full.
the truth is it SIMPLY DOESNT HAPPEN IF YOUR A DOMESTIC WINDOW CLEANER.......its never happened to me in 27 years of window cleaning...it only happens to the mainly commercial boys.....i dictate the price and thats the end of it...take it or leave it...
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Sorry I didn't read properly no I wouldn't do a 200 pounds a month job for 60 pounds
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You can't be bitter about it and let it dampen your spirits though. It happens all the time, gentlemen, please.
Look at your glass as half full.
Depends which optic you view it through?
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You can't be bitter about it and let it dampen your spirits though. It happens all the time, gentlemen, please.
Look at your glass as half full.
Depends which optic you view it through?
Beer goggles?
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Sorry I didn't read properly no I wouldn't do a 200 pounds a month job for 60 pounds
You’d do it for £40 😁
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You can't be bitter about it and let it dampen your spirits though. It happens all the time, gentlemen, please.
Look at your glass as half full.
the truth is it SIMPLY DOESNT HAPPEN IF YOUR A DOMESTIC WINDOW CLEANER.......its never happened to me in 27 years of window cleaning...it only happens to the mainly commercial boys.....i dictate the price and thats the end of it...take it or leave it...
You're wight, it is whisky welying on commercial work, Bud.
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You are in a bad spot mate, £1600 every 4 weeks is a big loss, BUT those days are already gone, as its now a £480 job/s. Because i also doubt they would revert the prices back the normal once this has all blown over say april/may 21? As their tighter budgets could run for a few years after this? Nature of the beast with commercial work, it can pay well, but if you loose a few you notice it. Unlike domestic work, if you drop a job or two in wont even make a dent, like the above guys say 'eggs in baskets' . IF, i really had to, i would carry on for now, and speed through the work and just give them a £60 job, whilst working very hard on finding other work to replace this now, white elephant. Good luck m.
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Forget what I’ve wrote in this thread, I misunderstood. I thought it had gone from £100 a clean to £60 a clean. Not £100 to £30. Too big a drop, time to walk away and concentrate on spreading your workload into more baskets.
I’ve been there myself, lost a contract that was more than 50% of my income. It won’t happen again.
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I have some London pubs used to charge 100 every two weeks lots of work but well paid nice jobs
Now after covid I get 60 a month which is their budget for cleaning
I am 140 a month down x 8 pubs
What would you do keep em
Dump em
Or just suck it up as the new normal
Will take a while to build up new work to replace anyone had this
Did you clean inside & outside for £100 per clean? If so tell them you will do outside only for £60 per clean and in the meantime claim the grant if you are eligible on the grounds of lost income.
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Forget what I’ve wrote in this thread, I misunderstood. I thought it had gone from £100 a clean to £60 a clean. Not £100 to £30. Too big a drop, time to walk away and concentrate on spreading your workload into more baskets.
I’ve been there myself, lost a contract that was more than 50% of my income. It won’t happen again.
I think it’s went from £100 per clean to £60 per clean but it used to be cleaned fortnightly and is now 4 weekly?
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Whatever it’s gone from to , it’s still a big drop , the question I would have asked the landlord is ......
I assume you have told the brewery that you will only be paying £60 for a £100 keg in future ?
I would be telling them to feck right off my friend !
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I would make it gin clear that in the spirit of covid you wont be bitter and wine about it but you cant keep working for peanuts.
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I'd do them for 60 notes if I needed the work.
Even though I'd only be getting a gill instead of a pint, my work would reflect that. And I'd top my glass up with Grants.
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I'd say I can still do some work for you but obviously the spec will be lower, so less inside work for example.
If you need it, do it until you can replace it. If you don't need it then don't fill your time with underpaying work
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If you walked into the pub and said you have no money due to Covid, so rather than £4 per pint, could you pay £2, they would tell you to feck off!
It works both ways.
Try and replace that work asap.
I can't see them going back to paying the original cost, anytime soon!
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I have some London pubs used to charge 100 every two weeks lots of work but well paid nice jobs
Now after covid I get 60 a month which is their budget for cleaning
I am 140 a month down x 8 pubs
What would you do keep em
Dump em
Or just suck it up as the new normal
Will take a while to build up new work to replace anyone had this
I agree with Darren
They won’t go back up.
Do you mean the were £100 fortnightly, so you were getting over £200 a month?
I don’t think you can drop your price, so offer them less often. If the budget is £60 a month, I guess you’re cleaning the pubs every 2 months now?
Or look at what they could miss off. Maybe clean front only.
That way when they are back to normal they can decide if they are happy with a partial clean or if they want to go back to full service