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Title: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Okmate on November 18, 2020, 08:10:15 am
Hi guys I'm looking at attaining some quotes for the building below as I'm new to buildings this large and don't have a clue as to the cost, are there WFP's that would reach this high' anyone currently do similar jobs. be a huge help to me as I would really love to win this work, I've not long started on my own and currently only have 15 clients, not a lot aI know, But its only the start of things to come hopefully

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Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Pete Thompson on November 18, 2020, 09:44:22 am
Rope access.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Simon Trapani on November 18, 2020, 09:51:37 am
The top balcony would put me off.

If I was gonna do it though I’d be thinking ‘how many houses at x amount can i clean in that time?’ and then add some on for it being a ballache.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Slacky on November 18, 2020, 10:14:20 am
£250 - £300.

Assuming its regular.

Its half a days work. But Daz would do it in 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Bungle on November 18, 2020, 10:16:06 am
What Simon said ^^? How many houses can you see. You’ll need a very long pole. The higher up the building the harder and slower the cleaning will be so factor that into the price too.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Spruce on November 18, 2020, 10:56:32 am
What Simon said ^^? How many houses can you see. You’ll need a very long pole. The higher up the building the harder and slower the cleaning will be so factor that into the price too.

This alone would put me off as a newbie.

I have a 40' and I doubt I could reach the top floor with it. I would check out it my pole would reach the top windows before I quoted. If it didn't or I had to buy a pole especially for the job I would decline it.

Quote, get the job and then they cancel after a couple of cleans. He will now have a 50' pole he will hardly every use.

Using an old SLX40  at full reach is hard enough. I would hate to consider another 10' as a first timer with no experience of using a pole at that height..

Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: zesty on November 18, 2020, 11:06:04 am
£350-400 depending on frequency.

Easy job with the correct length water fed pole.

Hope you get it 👍🏼
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: deeege on November 18, 2020, 11:40:11 am
I’d only personally take it on if I had the equipment to reach. (Don’t go buying a shiny new pole just for this job only)

I’d put a full days money on it, not because it would take a full day, but because I wouldn’t be starting any jobs after I’d finished it.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 18, 2020, 12:52:35 pm
This sort of building is best left to an experienced window cleaner, not one for a newbie I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 01:08:49 pm
Easy job as Slacky said with the correct pole and extreme brush the top ones would be fine I’d go along the ones with the railing first with the brush turned upright and then clean the tops of those panes and rinse down from there,350-400 for me I’d say you could do that with breaks in less than a morning quiet comfortably.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Okmate on November 18, 2020, 01:13:08 pm
Rope access.

No viable points on the roof to tie off,
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 01:18:44 pm
You don’t need rope access for that you can do it all from the ground the lost most you’d need would be a longer gooseneck depending on how deep the glass is away from those top bars,it’s only 50 odd foot easy enough job I reckon there’s nothing in the way of 99% of those windows.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Spruce on November 18, 2020, 02:09:10 pm
You don’t need rope access for that you can do it all from the ground the lost most you’d need would be a longer gooseneck depending on how deep the glass is away from those top bars,it’s only 50 odd foot easy enough job I reckon there’s nothing in the way of 99% of those windows.

Every time you go there the clean those windows behind the grills will be open.  ;D
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 18, 2020, 02:10:48 pm
You don’t need rope access for that you can do it all from the ground the lost most you’d need would be a longer gooseneck depending on how deep the glass is away from those top bars,it’s only 50 odd foot easy enough job I reckon there’s nothing in the way of 99% of those windows.
^^^^ This from the same person that has previously said that it takes a year to learn how to wfp properly, yet here he is saying it’s an easy job for a newbie, despite the job probably requiring a 60’pole😲🤣
You couldn’t make it up😁
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 18, 2020, 02:19:09 pm
Rope access.

No viable points on the roof to tie off,
If you do decide to put in a quote you might want to factor in that a decent pole to reach that height will set you back in the region of £1500-2000
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Pete Thompson on November 18, 2020, 02:22:38 pm
Rope access.
No viable points on the roof to tie off,

Use a deadweight trolley or A-frame anchor.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Gringo on November 18, 2020, 02:55:39 pm
Good idea let's get the Newby window cleaner with hardly any customers and experience to tie himself to roof and abseil down, insanity
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 02:59:53 pm
Sorry completely didn’t realise he was a newbie I didn’t read that bit,so much rubbish on here usually I don’t bother reading all the posts.
If a newbie did that he could end up making them look worse when he’s cleaned them,I would get someone to do it with you or for you that had the appropriate pole get him to do the top 3 floors pay him for that and do the rest yourself.
Sub it out to most people they’ll nick it off you do the lower levels and make sure you’re there when it’s cleaned.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: deeege on November 18, 2020, 03:33:59 pm
so much rubbish on here usually I don’t bother reading all the posts.

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Pete Thompson on November 18, 2020, 03:50:15 pm
Good idea let's get the Newby window cleaner with hardly any customers and experience to tie himself to roof and abseil down, insanity

That wasn’t the idea, the idea was to sub it to an IRATA qualified abseiler, who will probably already have the deadweight trolley.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 04:00:36 pm
You need experience using a pole at that height even on a still day with no wind.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: tlwcs on November 18, 2020, 04:06:53 pm
so much rubbish on here usually I don’t bother reading all the posts.

😂😂😂

Lmao
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 04:09:37 pm
Unless someone uses hot water I can’t take em seriously 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Splash & dash on November 18, 2020, 04:18:16 pm
Rope access.
No viable points on the roof to tie off,

Use a deadweight trolley or A-frame anchor.




If he’s asking how to do the job and doesn’t know how to price it he certainly isn’t going to be rope access  qualified , it’s an easy job from the ground for an experienced  Wfp Guy , why on earth would you want to absail that ?. We are rope access qualified but wouldn’t Evan consider doing that building that way , the risk assessment  would never stack up for doing it that way . Wfp every time on that type of building .
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 04:24:47 pm
There isn’t even any pillars to go round when you move along to the next window  it looks easy money to me,Wagga could that with his trolley 🤣🤣 and Ali pole.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Richard Groves on November 18, 2020, 05:16:45 pm
I'm only making assumptions so I apologise in advance. 15 regular clients and new to this ?. I'd reckon on you needing a 60 ft pole that you probably haven't got  ( to be fair most of us don't ). They're not cheap. Doubtful you'd have many other jobs you'd need it for. Even at the prices experienced willy wavers are quoting for this, you'd have to clean it several times to even break even and pay for the pole. In the current economic climate and pandemic , I'd only consider it if I already had the kit to reach it. Sorry, but I think it's a non starter. So many easier residential jobs out there to clean without having to invest in a pole for such a height.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Slacky on November 18, 2020, 05:33:22 pm
so much rubbish on here usually I don’t bother reading all the posts.

😂😂😂

lol there's irony...
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Slacky on November 18, 2020, 05:34:52 pm
Unless someone uses hot water I can’t take em seriously 🤣🤣🤣

The funny thing is, IMO, because you rattle on about hot as often as you do I can't take you seriously.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 05:48:10 pm
Hot Water rules WFP m8 no discussion about it summer-winter-fall,I can’t grasp how anyone would want to use cold water and hose like wire to earn their corn m8.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: M.J.M on November 18, 2020, 06:00:22 pm
£350.  Every2 months
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: TomCrowther on November 18, 2020, 06:15:21 pm
He could get a couple of additional sections to his existing pole or even better, borrow a longer pole from another cleaner.
£400 every two months for me.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Splash & dash on November 18, 2020, 06:19:20 pm
He could get a couple of additional sections to his existing pole or even better, borrow a longer pole from another cleaner.
£400 every two months for me.



I very much doubt he has a pole that would be suitable for 6 storey work, at that height it’s not just a case of adding a couple of sections to an slx , you need specialist poles . 
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 06:20:30 pm
5 Harris poles glued together ?
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 18, 2020, 06:24:58 pm
He could get a couple of additional sections to his existing pole or even better, borrow a longer pole from another cleaner.
£400 every two months for me.
A couple of sections🙈 you would need a 60’ pole for that building. If I had spent 2 grand on a pole I don’t think I would be loaning it out.......especially to someone who has just started window cleaning.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 18, 2020, 06:25:26 pm
5 Harris poles glued together ?
;D
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Shrek on November 18, 2020, 06:27:32 pm
5 Harris poles glued together ?

Maybe stand on his van roof too?
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Splash & dash on November 18, 2020, 06:30:20 pm
He could get a couple of additional sections to his existing pole or even better, borrow a longer pole from another cleaner.
£400 every two months for me.
A couple of sections🙈 you would need a 60’ pole for that building. If I had spent 2 grand on a pole I don’t think I would be loaning it out.......especially to someone who has just started window cleaning.




Exactly!!!!!  you do get some funny comments on here just shows half theses people haven’t got a clue what they are talking about add a couple of sections lol 😂😂😂😂😬 pribebly haven’t done anything higher than a two storey house
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: windowswashed on November 18, 2020, 06:38:10 pm
Working at six storey is not for those who are not use to working at height. I regularly do 5 and 4 storey work repeatedly and wouldn't want to be doing it as a newbie with no experience other than domestic houses.  Higher the pole in the wind the more it bends and can be taken in gusty winds, not recommended for those not use to working against the weather elements.

Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 18, 2020, 06:40:47 pm
Good idea let's get the Newby window cleaner with hardly any customers and experience to tie himself to roof and abseil down, insanity

That wasn’t the idea, the idea was to sub it to an IRATA qualified abseiler, who will probably already have the deadweight trolley.
That’s an even better idea....let’s get a newbie with 15 customers subbying work out to specialist companies😆
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: dazmond on November 18, 2020, 06:49:12 pm
to the OP....your well out of your depth with this job mate.....your gonna need a 60ft pole.......with very little experience of WFP......i decent pole to clean this job would be an xtreme.....the best would be an ultimate pole which would be preferable but costs a shedload of money which you can ill afford when starting out....its just not worth it
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Martin Lane on November 18, 2020, 07:09:41 pm
Hi Darren
Have a word with a more experienced window cleaner in your town and sub it out to him and put £80 on top for yourself, if you don't get the work you have lost nothing, 
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: zesty on November 18, 2020, 07:14:17 pm
To be fair, you only gain experience from giving things a go.

If this is a regular job, and looks like it’ll stick for the long term, then I’d invest in the ultimate pole, and go for it.

It’s not easy at that height, but you can only learn on the job.

Perhaps he can practice at lower levels in the meantime.

I love jobs like this, so I’m biased.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 18, 2020, 07:25:04 pm
If it’s 50ft which it is at least means you are gonna need a 60ft pole coz working at that height you need the extra length so you are able to stand back far enough to actually clean the glass,you also want
someone with you when working at that height if there’s obstacles etc.
At first I didn’t realise you were new to this as said it’s not newbie work.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Richard Groves on November 18, 2020, 07:43:09 pm
He could get a couple of additional sections to his existing pole or even better, borrow a longer pole from another cleaner.
£400 every two months for me.
A couple of sections🙈 you would need a 60’ pole for that building. If I had spent 2 grand on a pole I don’t think I would be loaning it out.......especially to someone who has just started window cleaning.
Not only that, if you'd invested 2K in something as specialist as a high mod carbon 60 footer you'd be cleaning those jobs yourself !
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: wayne 77 on November 18, 2020, 08:21:29 pm
7 floors at the back  NO THANK YOU  leave it to the commercial guys
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 19, 2020, 03:48:21 pm
Disaster waiting to happen if you are new to WFP and you tried cleaning that on your own imo.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Bungle on November 19, 2020, 04:14:09 pm
Disaster waiting to happen if you are new to WFP and you tried cleaning that on your own imo.

Why do you keep chirping in? Can’t you just say what you’ve got to say in one reply?
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: NWH on November 19, 2020, 04:36:42 pm
I say I say disaster waiting to happen
Title: Re: Your thoughts on this quote
Post by: Gringo on November 19, 2020, 05:49:46 pm
Darren I hope we've covered all the bases for you, any thoughts as to your next move, re quotation of said job