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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: prestigeclean on November 12, 2020, 06:50:12 pm
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I need to increase my water production so is it worth fitting a booster pump I’ve got a pure freedom 2400gpd ro , if you’ve fitted one how much did your water production increase ? Currently taking about 18/20 hours to fill 1000 l Ibc regards Alan
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Jeezus , you’ve just reminded me about the good ol days when I had my 300gpd with a booster and was running from 8am to 8am every day trying to keep up with me.
Best thing I did was buy a 4040 and a monster booster pump. Best grand iv spent in ages . Takes a couple of hours a day now just to top up my 1000ltr iBc.
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Can someone point me in the right direction for a booster pump thanks
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Can someone point me in the right direction for a booster pump thanks
I've got this one
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/water-genie-4040-booster-pump-5688-p.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjcn8aYhf7sAhUQfMAKHTgKA4YQFjAAegQIHhAB&usg=AOvVaw06U-U3kvs4dFDodIoCzR0U
I've been using it daily now for two years. Takes my water pressure from 30 to 100 psi. Very happy with the quality and simplicity of it.
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I need to increase my water production so is it worth fitting a booster pump I’ve got a pure freedom 2400gpd ro , if you’ve fitted one how much did your water production increase ? Currently taking about 18/20 hours to fill 1000 l Ibc regards Alan
https://purefreedom.co.uk/large-booster-pump-with-fittings-fp06.html
This is the one I have. Its attached to a 4040. Fills a static 500 ltre. Tank 40 min
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I need to increase my water production so is it worth fitting a booster pump I’ve got a pure freedom 2400gpd ro , if you’ve fitted one how much did your water production increase ? Currently taking about 18/20 hours to fill 1000 l Ibc regards Alan
In a word Yes.
The stated 2400gpd of your ro is an un real world optimum performance figure. You're falling well short of that at approx 50lph (50% of the stated ). A rotary vane pump such as pure freedoms or the one I've linked to is going to increase water production significantly. I've a 600 L ibc tank that fills from empty within 3 hours ( so approx 200lph ). You should expect to fill your 1000 L tank in a quarter of the time it's taking you now, so yes it's worth it.
Not sure if MJM is stating the performance blurb straight from pure freedoms site with regards to 600 lph. If he's filling his 500 L tank in 40 mins that's incredible !
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If you got an HF5 40” membrane it’s would fill that tank in 8-10 hours with 30-40psi you wouldn’t need a pump.
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4040's like good pressure. They're so much more efficient with it. Just because you can run them unboosted doesn't mean you should. You'll get a longer life from the membrane and a lower product tds. Well, I do anyway. Considering how much people spend on vans, hot systems, extreme poles, electric reels etc. a decent booster pump often gets overlooked. It's a worthy investment IMO if you use a 4040 ro.
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I’ve been running an HF5 membrane like this for years it still produces water after RO at 3-7 ,I flush it about once every 2 months for 15 minutes so all this flushing after every fill is rubbish this RO I’ve had for over 6-7 years.
I’m moving everything into another premises soon and will be using a booster pump purely because I’ll need more water at a quicker rate,if I didn’t need water quickly I’d never bother with a booster pump.
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You got a good one then. Like I said only my experience. There seems to be quality issues these days, if I believe what I read on here. OP wants to up production speed just as you've mentioned. Even 10 hours is too long for me. But then again, I don't have an automated fill and shut off system. I just like to turn the tap on in the evening and know within 3 hours I've a full tank for the next day's work.
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I use this booster pump below, going through two 20" pre filters into a 4040 HF4 membrane.
https://www.lawson-his.co.uk/draper-56227-sp100-4-100-l-min-max-1000-w-230-v-multistage-surface-mounted-pump?gclid=Cj0KCQiA-rj9BRCAARIsANB_4AB9Wv6OBH7z-2VjGThCMZTl3ZRoa_tMGzQiY49MyYYaKHpM2_9jkLMaAljiEALw_wcB
Water in at 38psi (un boosted), then boosted with the pure to waste outlet tap valve's sweet spot set around 80psi, this pump will make 200L per hour. I Fill a 1000L ibc fitted with a ballcock & overflow, i also use a plug timer switch with it, in case i ever forget to turn it off.
This pump is good, given its a draper (7yrs of use so far), i reckon they are made by clarke, and re badged as draper.
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Can someone point me in the right direction for a booster pump thanks
I've got this one
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/water-genie-4040-booster-pump-5688-p.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjcn8aYhf7sAhUQfMAKHTgKA4YQFjAAegQIHhAB&usg=AOvVaw06U-U3kvs4dFDodIoCzR0U
I've been using it daily now for two years. Takes my water pressure from 30 to 100 psi. Very happy with the quality and simplicity of it.
I hope there is a drain hole in the bottom of that box to drain away water caused by any leaks from the hose or hose connectors.
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Can someone point me in the right direction for a booster pump thanks
I've got this one
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/water-genie-4040-booster-pump-5688-p.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjcn8aYhf7sAhUQfMAKHTgKA4YQFjAAegQIHhAB&usg=AOvVaw06U-U3kvs4dFDodIoCzR0U
I've been using it daily now for two years. Takes my water pressure from 30 to 100 psi. Very happy with the quality and simplicity of it.
I hope there is a drain hole in the bottom of that box to drain away water caused by any leaks from the hose or hose connectors.
It does, however, it's dry as a bone in there Spruce, never leaked. The only connections that may leak are the hoselock style ones but they are on the outside of the box. They don't leak either probably because they've never worn, they're always connected since I installed it.
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I'll add that although approx £300. I went with this one as it's the same rotary vane pump that pf sell ( cheaper minus the bells n whistles that I already had anyway. ). It's rated for continual use as a booster pump. I liked the fact all I had to do was connect a hose in and out with hose tails. No need to mount it, just sits on the floor in its box, simplicity.
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Thanks for all the replys do you put the pump before the pre filtars or after thanks
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I've put my pump after the pre filters.
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Mine is before pre filters
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B4 pre filters for me
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I don't think it really matters but can I ask why you have your booster pump before filters ? is there any advantage. ?
I only put mine after the filters incase any sediment in my supply could damage the pump ( although very unlikely ) and because the boosted supply may put more pressure on fittings/connections ( again probably unlikely because I use JG pushfit ).
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I just went off advice from Doug at Daqua. As he sells the pre filters and 4040’s etc , I thought he’d know his stuff when it comes to booster pump position.
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Thanks Shrek. Oh well, seems to be working out for me the way I've set it up so can't be bothered to go changing things.
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Thanks Shrek. Oh well, seems to be working out for me the way I've set it up so can't be bothered to go changing things.
To be honest iv no idea what difference it makes if any 🤷♂️. Whatever works I suppose 👍
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Im not sure which way is correct either tbh? Maybe B.K's way is better? because i know at 80psi i have to seriously tighten those 20" pre filters whilst someone is holding the base for me, and me using a filter wrench, i dread changing them as they can leak easy under high pressure.
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Pure Freedom mount the booster pump after the prefilters on their systems.
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You've all got me thinking now, i wonder if i would get a higher psi on the R.O, with the booster between the system? I might have give it a try?
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ive got the pure freedom 4040, not long after being its found out just how crap my water pressure is, its about 8psi, i then bought a booster pump and fitted it between the pre filters and the membrane, i suffered with air locks a lot and also my booster would only go to 30psi max, ive now changed it round so the booster is first and the pressure is a million times better. I just need to re-secure all my fittings as ive got some leaks and then i think I can get my pressure up to 60 ish psi which is a massive improvement .
so in answer to where the booster goes, I think a lot has to do with your initial water pressure
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I need to increase my water production so is it worth fitting a booster pump I’ve got a pure freedom 2400gpd ro , if you’ve fitted one how much did your water production increase ? Currently taking about 18/20 hours to fill 1000 l Ibc regards Alan
https://purefreedom.co.uk/large-booster-pump-with-fittings-fp06.html
This is the one I have. Its attached to a 4040. Fills a static 500 ltre. Tank 40 min
Can you send me a pic of the top of the pump head? Wana know the specs and model number
Thanks