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Title: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: TomCrowther on October 03, 2020, 10:11:55 am
Who does them and how much do you charge? I used to do quite a few but over time, decided I hated doing them. Irritated my shoulder a bit  (Virosol and wfp) and although the results were v good just didn’t enjoy it.
This might be because I never charged top dollar. I’m thinking of offering the service again but starting at £200.
Those of you who do a decent number of them, what sort of prices do you demand?
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Spruce on October 03, 2020, 10:36:52 am
Who does them and how much do you charge? I used to do quite a few but over time, decided I hated doing them. Irritated my shoulder a bit  (Virosol and wfp) and although the results were v good just didn’t enjoy it.
This might be because I never charged top dollar. I’m thinking of offering the service again but starting at £200.
Those of you who do a decent number of them, what sort of prices do you demand?

£200 in the North East would equate to never cleaning one again. A customer got a shock when I quoted £55 to clean the glass roof of one.  ;D
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: jd services on October 03, 2020, 11:27:35 am
Even in commuter belt Surrey I charge £60 on average. ..They don't take that long. I use a big set of sturdy steps to get above them.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Smudger on October 03, 2020, 11:33:53 am
Minimum start is £65 for a simple 3 x 2 meter with pent roof

Then goes up from there biggest I do is a £375 over a s/pool  every 12 weeks

Darran
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: dazmond on October 03, 2020, 12:54:39 pm
for £200 i think you would have to clean the inside of the roof as well as the outside.......

i will clean the odd  outside roof for existing customers......prices usually start from £50 ...this normally puts most customers off for some reason as they think itll only take you 10 mins..... ::)roll......suits me as i cant be bothered with em  these days...

i much prefer to just clean my normal regular window cleaning jobs then head home.....
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: tlwcs on October 03, 2020, 01:25:57 pm
£200? Go for it, it’s your call.
You hated doing them, don’t do any now, but at £200 if you did 2 a year in 2 or 3 hours a go, you may start enjoying them.
Charge what you want not what people think
I don’t offer this service
Tony
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: david mark on October 03, 2020, 01:48:14 pm
They may want the gutters cleaning out i normaly unclip the unions and wash out debri
Can't stand con roof work
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 03, 2020, 01:53:17 pm
We charge around £380 normally it’s part of a full clean inc the f/s/gutters, do a couple a week in summer.

Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: swanson on October 03, 2020, 04:09:50 pm
I would charge between £75-£150 depending on the size.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Splash & dash on October 03, 2020, 07:10:12 pm
I have always suggested customers get a quote from Thomas Sanderson and we will do it for  half there price outside only for  roof on a small one starts from £65 . For a full clean fir the whole of a conservatory inside and out including all door shuts and window closers would start from £350 upwards , Ime not keen doing insides but if the price is right we will do them Ime guessing we get 65% of the ones we quote , I think for  years I was way to cheap , won’t be making that mistake again .
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 03, 2020, 07:12:42 pm
I remember not that many years ago I do a job for 45 he said to me if I round it up to 50 will do the conservatory roof 🤣🤣,I said to him did you get that one out of a Christmas cracker he just looked at me he was serious lol. 
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Slacky on October 03, 2020, 07:40:11 pm
I remember not that many years ago I do a job for 45 he said to me if I round it up to 50 will do the conservatory roof 🤣🤣,I said to him did you get that one out of a Christmas cracker he just looked at me he was serious lol.

I thought you did them for free in your previous life?
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 03, 2020, 07:56:10 pm
Yeah they get the odd free few bits cleaned when they are the ones that look after me,a 45 quid job gets nothing for free I’m afraid,come on now I’m only there 15 minutes lol.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: jay moley on October 03, 2020, 09:07:42 pm
Stopped doing them a few months ago as I hate doing them.

Always lost money on them compared to the time I could bang out regular windows.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 04, 2020, 12:57:12 pm
If you are losing money cleaning them it’s down to the way you price them.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Scrimble on October 04, 2020, 04:50:04 pm
Even in commuter belt Surrey I charge £60 on average. ..They don't take that long. I use a big set of sturdy steps to get above them.

£60 average in the south east you are a fool, I bet your customers are laughing at you behind your back charging so cheap
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: jd services on October 04, 2020, 06:52:08 pm
Why Scrimble? If they take an hour. £60 is fine
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: jonboywalton75 on October 05, 2020, 10:35:57 am
Why Scrimble? If they take an hour. £60 is fine
Because you can earn £100 in an hour

Or more👍
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 10:46:46 am
Why Scrimble? If they take an hour. £60 is fine
Because you can earn £100 in an hour

Or more👍

And also they never take just 1hr, unless I just get the dirty ones😉 I book 2hrs for 2 men
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Smudger on October 05, 2020, 10:52:41 am
Mike don’t you clean yours by hand and climb over the roof?

Darran
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Richard Groves on October 05, 2020, 12:54:21 pm
I clean a few in South East. An average of £60 sounds about right. I don't do many and are only for the odd existing customer. Some I charge more for but most are usually done inside an hour. I always check their expectations as to what I'm actually cleaning though. I clean the glass, the partition frames, that's it. Not the gutters and not the fiddly finials. If I were to do that I'd consider it a full day's work  / conservatory restoration or deep clean. And that s not something Im  interested in, leave that to Thomas Sanderson etc. Silly fiddly bits of plastic that crack , fall off, or get lost....no thanks.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 02:12:03 pm
Darren, Yes, most times we erect a platform or use the big step ladders we like to be able to touch the finial
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601903264_F910F8A2-C33D-4ACF-8319-7EC762573413.jpeg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601903427_804B9085-C57D-4B41-BA3F-95C6A7F15226.jpeg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601903495_47B9A84D-A76F-41AF-A650-1373E369B013.jpeg)
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Richard Groves on October 05, 2020, 02:22:17 pm
Good work Mike. See that's a different level of service vs what most consider a run of the mill conny roof clean to consist of.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Smudger on October 05, 2020, 03:04:54 pm
For me that’s a lot of effort when a good squirt of tfr and wfp  brush will do the same in less time

Darran

Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 03:25:42 pm
For me that’s a lot of effort when a good squirt of tfr and wfp  brush will do the same in less time

Darran

We’ll have to disagree on that one :D

I carry wfp on the van  it can do the same job but not in less time (even taking into account setting up the rig)
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Shrek on October 05, 2020, 03:36:11 pm
Why Scrimble? If they take an hour. £60 is fine
Because you can earn £100 in an hour

Or more👍

And also they never take just 1hr, unless I just get the dirty ones😉 I book 2hrs for 2 men

Wow that’s unbelievably slow. 4 hours to clean a con roof? I take it you 2 are having a long dinner break , that’s why it takes so long? Maybe try using a different chemical supplier as whatever your using doesn’t sound like it’s any good 😂😂. I just use cold water and most are done in an hour , upto 1.5 hours if it’s large.
The photos you’ve uploaded aren’t of large conservatory’s , these can easily be done in an hour.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 05, 2020, 03:40:29 pm
I couldn’t be bothered going to those lengths to clean 1 either they get to more than a decent standard with hot water and maybe a bit of TFR if it’s very dirty.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: KS Cleaning on October 05, 2020, 04:20:24 pm
Darren, Yes, most times we erect a platform or use the big step ladders we like to be able to touch the finial
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601903264_F910F8A2-C33D-4ACF-8319-7EC762573413.jpeg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601903427_804B9085-C57D-4B41-BA3F-95C6A7F15226.jpeg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601903495_47B9A84D-A76F-41AF-A650-1373E369B013.jpeg)
Overkill IMO.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 04:39:51 pm
You’re probably all right :-\ too much hassle my way,  I’ll stop cleaning them.

So let me get this right... tfr + wfp + 1hr is what I need to be doing for around £60 (not the min £380 I charge at the moment)
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 04:42:28 pm
Oops just seen a big problem :o :o I have a £120 minimum charge so I’m only going to be able to clean for people who have 2 of them  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Slacky on October 05, 2020, 04:43:26 pm
You charged £380 for that hutch in the last picture?
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 04:46:47 pm
You charged £380 for that hutch in the last picture?

I could lie and say yes but no that one wasn’t £380 like you say it only a small one and was part of a full clean.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 05, 2020, 04:51:05 pm
Fair play to you Mike but I can think of easier ways to earn 380 notes m8 WFP just doing windows,is 380 a good above average days work for you or not.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 05, 2020, 04:56:45 pm
Fair play to you Mike but I can think of easier ways to earn 380 notes m8 WFP just doing windows,is 380 a good above average days work for you or not.

It’s pointless talking money, I only mentioned my price because people need to know that their is other options to the £60 &£100 prices. I know where this is going so I not getting into ‘average days work/earnings it’s a can of worms

Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 05, 2020, 05:24:04 pm
Yeah fair enough I just don’t like cleaning them like that to a toothbrush quality standard.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Stoots on October 05, 2020, 06:09:01 pm
Easier ways to earn £380 than 4 leisurely hours cleaning a conny ?  ::)roll

Wouldnt mind doing that everyday, id pack the windows in tomorrow

And i hate doing conny roofs, but for that price i would learn to love them  :)
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: dazmond on October 05, 2020, 06:12:19 pm
I think mike has the right idea.....charge high and take your time with decent ladders/platforms etc.....

Personally I'm happy just cleaning regular window jobs most of the time....
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Splash & dash on October 05, 2020, 06:22:39 pm
By the time you have assembled the scaffold and all those steps we would have done the job and be going on to the next 😂😂😂😂 hears (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_0FC9BE8E-04C7-499F-8EF9-6BB4BDC5F087.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_CAF750EA-0907-4156-9216-5135F5CEFA44.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_79818C4E-9698-42C1-945B-C62E431D577A.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918550_2FF4314F-0EF1-4B94-8524-1AAC8A8B1E0D.jpeg) a small one we did earlier
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: mjm on October 05, 2020, 06:28:35 pm
For me that’s a lot of effort when a good squirt of tfr and wfp  brush will do the same in less time

Darran

We’ll have to disagree on that one :D

i get it mike i get what your saying  i personally would have probably jetwashed the drive sides and back of the property and the conny roof wfp   tfr
or gutters empty facias cleaned and conny   i would do that on my own no steps small telescopic ladder
can your boy not be dropped off early on a morning to do that and then   you go and do the same somewhare else   or the same in the nearby street or  you go on a window cleaning round and pick him up later

or am i multitasking when i do this

Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Bungle on October 05, 2020, 07:57:38 pm
By the time you have assembled the scaffold and all those steps we would have done the job and be going on to the next 😂😂😂😂 hears (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_0FC9BE8E-04C7-499F-8EF9-6BB4BDC5F087.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_CAF750EA-0907-4156-9216-5135F5CEFA44.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_79818C4E-9698-42C1-945B-C62E431D577A.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918550_2FF4314F-0EF1-4B94-8524-1AAC8A8B1E0D.jpeg) a small one we did earlier

I can’t see why you posted the last picture of the glass roof. Either take a before or after, or is that the after?
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: SB Cleaning on October 05, 2020, 08:06:46 pm
By the time you have assembled the scaffold and all those steps we would have done the job and be going on to the next 😂😂😂😂 hears (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_0FC9BE8E-04C7-499F-8EF9-6BB4BDC5F087.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_CAF750EA-0907-4156-9216-5135F5CEFA44.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_79818C4E-9698-42C1-945B-C62E431D577A.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918550_2FF4314F-0EF1-4B94-8524-1AAC8A8B1E0D.jpeg) a small one we did earlier

I can’t see why you posted the last picture of the glass roof. Either take a before or after, or is that the after?
Crap job if it is the after shot....frames are still mank ;D
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 05, 2020, 08:17:11 pm
Yeah couldn’t reach under that opener then lol,I’d pass that on make the same as the bloke doing it my job would be giving my bank details 🤣🤣 Sod that.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Splash & dash on October 05, 2020, 08:48:02 pm
By the time you have assembled the scaffold and all those steps we would have done the job and be going on to the next 😂😂😂😂 hears (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_0FC9BE8E-04C7-499F-8EF9-6BB4BDC5F087.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_CAF750EA-0907-4156-9216-5135F5CEFA44.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918551_79818C4E-9698-42C1-945B-C62E431D577A.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1601918550_2FF4314F-0EF1-4B94-8524-1AAC8A8B1E0D.jpeg) a small one we did earlier

I can’t see why you posted the last picture of the glass roof. Either take a before or after, or is that the after?
Crap job if it is the after shot....frames are still mank ;D


That was a before shot
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Splash & dash on October 05, 2020, 08:49:52 pm
Yeah couldn’t reach under that opener then lol,I’d pass that on make the same as the bloke doing it my job would be giving my bank details 🤣🤣 Sod that.


Trust me you wouldn’t pass on if you knew what I charged for it Thomas Sanderson eat your heart out 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Bungle on October 05, 2020, 09:33:41 pm
Of course
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 05, 2020, 09:42:36 pm
I would because I’d get half for doing nothing.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 19, 2020, 06:07:00 pm
Just to resurrect an old topic  ;)

This is the awkward type of conservatory we often  clean, concealed gutters full of moss with no access >:( We had to climb over the house roof to get to the back

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1603126946_0374FCBB-A94E-4C9B-9074-33232B403B6A.jpeg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1603126970_63204457-9A28-4D1E-A0F3-DB8236507B92.jpeg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1603126985_F13FD821-695F-4041-8DEC-1E94826C9A18.jpeg)
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 19, 2020, 06:13:58 pm
Just to resurrect the same reply again you can keep that job 🤣,anything like that I stick a silly price in if it’s a yes then I’ll get my usual guy to do it and I’ll get a chunk for not touching it,back breaking shoulder aching nightmare of a job that is why would you entertain cleaning stuff like that if you’ve plenty of work.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 19, 2020, 07:08:04 pm
Just to resurrect the same reply again you can keep that job 🤣,anything like that I stick a silly price in if it’s a yes then I’ll get my usual guy to do it and I’ll get a chunk for not touching it,back breaking shoulder aching nightmare of a job that is why would you entertain cleaning stuff like that if you’ve plenty of work.

We have Plenty of work But it includes work like this which I enjoy doing,  it’s awkward  but all our work is based on our hourly rate, I work out how long it will take then charge the appropriate amount. I don’t care what it is if they are willing to pay we will clean it
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 19, 2020, 08:30:53 pm
I’ve just done a close up picture of the part of the roof with the opener I wouldn’t be happy with that if I was paying,you can see it’s not been done with hot water.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 19, 2020, 10:02:57 pm
I’ve just done a close up picture of the part of the roof with the opener I wouldn’t be happy with that if I was paying,you can see it’s not been done with hot water.

I’ll try and do better next time.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 19, 2020, 10:55:29 pm
The outside of that opening frame is still green that’s the trouble with such a big job like that it can get tiresome especially with cold water you don’t feel you are getting anywhere,if you do jobs like that often hot is a must you would really see the difference using hot water even more so if you sprayed it with a degreaser first.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 20, 2020, 06:07:39 am
The photos are after a hot TFR foam Pre-wash then rinse, we haven’t started cleaning it yet.

You’re right about using hot water, We use a converted Steam diesel pressure washer to wash conservatories. It runs 2 guns at low pressure but quite high flow rates.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 20, 2020, 02:14:26 pm
Ah right you are then Mick nice one 👌
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: NWH on October 20, 2020, 02:16:06 pm
Who’s that bloke on the tower scaffold with a big beer belly 🤣🤣 he’s had too much WFP no enough ladder work.
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Splash & dash on October 20, 2020, 02:53:09 pm
The outside of that opening frame is still green that’s the trouble with such a big job like that it can get tiresome especially with cold water you don’t feel you are getting anywhere,if you do jobs like that often hot is a must you would really see the difference using hot water even more so if you sprayed it with a degreaser first.



Hot water and hypo mix is the way ahead it kills the algi , refreshes the white plastic and comes up well with minimal scrubbing
Title: Re: Conservatory cleans. Who does them?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 20, 2020, 02:58:07 pm
The big belly is  a touchy Subject,  but that’s  my mate/helper Pete And his belly. He has just 6 month ago become single and is now looking for a new woman so he thinks his belly has to go, he started at the gym with me on Monday morning. He’s trying to lose 3 of his 18st

I’ll tell him you noticed his belly it might motivate him  ;D