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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Oliver James on July 20, 2020, 03:42:20 pm
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Commercial work, looks like it has been done about six months ago.
Windows on all sides of the building.
You don’t have to go up the fire escape. All the doors on the fire escape are fire doors with no windows.
I am thinking £125 every six months plus VAT.
What do you think?
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I would be around the 150 + VAT. so there or there abouts - comes down to small things like is it local, other work nearby and how quick you/staff are at cleaning it
Darran
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125 😂 I can see this being another 1 of those threads lol,I’d say you can have the job and you can do it as often as you like.
That’s not a 125 pound job anywhere.
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Few bases covered there saying depending if it’s staff or me cleaning it lol,I’ve had this debate before price what it’s worth or price to get the job at 180 incl vat multiple van operations are killing the job lol.
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When I went WFP I vowed to not drop drastically price wise from laddering jobs,do it off a ladder then you’ll get a more realistic price in your head because that’s not far off what it should be worth.
People will say yeah but it can be done in a fraction of the time now which is true and that’s the reason why bigger firms undercut these jobs and clean them for the price of 2 houses in a good area 😂.
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i would charge £130........its a 2 hour job at the most(no VAT)....
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i would charge £130........its a 2 hour job at the most(no VAT)....
I would be about the same
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If it's only 6 monthly £200
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I don’t care if it took me an hour the time it will take wouldn’t be what I’d base my price on solely,I don’t know what you get for that type of work where you are but these kind of jobs are fast becoming not worth doing.
Like I say horses for courses depends what kind of domestic work you’ve got,to some people it might not be worth coming off domestics for, lot of looking up cleaning that but as someone has said if they don’t have to clean it and they can use a hired monkey 🐒 jobs a goodn 🤣🤣.
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I don’t care if it took me an hour the time it will take wouldn’t be what I’d base my price on solely,I don’t know what you get for that type of work where you are but these kind of jobs are fast becoming not worth doing.
Like I say horses for courses depends what kind of domestic work you’ve got,to some people it might not be worth coming off domestics for, lot of looking up cleaning that but as someone has said if they don’t have to clean it and they can use a hired monkey 🐒 jobs a goodn 🤣🤣.
id be happy with £65 an hour..........its an easy job.....of course its worth doing....... ::)roll
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Jobs like that should give you an easy day joined in with a couple of good houses,that day would be my catch up money day if I’d been rained off during that week it was due.
Everyone’s getting cheaper and cheaper,killing it that kind of money for a job like that wouldn’t even be thought of 10-15 years ago down south bigger firms with meerkats for staff driving prices to the floor.
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Jobs like that should give you an easy day joined in with a couple of good houses,that day would be my catch up money day if I’d been rained off during that week it was due.
Everyone’s getting cheaper and cheaper,killing it that kind of money for a job like that wouldn’t even be thought of 10-15 years ago down south bigger firms with meerkats for staff driving prices to the floor.
your entitled to your opinion but id be happy at £130 for that job.......
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i would charge £130........its a 2 hour job at the most(no VAT)....
You gonna clean all that for about what then Daz 95-100 quid after Rishi”s put his hand in you’re pocket 🤣.
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That’s the trouble with this swivel chair brigade see when you aren’t out in the battlefield fighting the fight you lose the sense of what graft these jobs take it’s all about the turnover 🤣,who cares I ain’t having to clean it lol. Why would you want a job like that Daz unless you needed the work if you can get around that sort of money on houses,those kind of jobs should be a bonus that you can make up for rainy days on.
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You gotta love plus VAT ;D
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That’s the trouble with this swivel chair brigade see when you aren’t out in the battlefield fighting the fight you lose the sense of what graft these jobs take it’s all about the turnover 🤣,who cares I ain’t having to clean it lol. Why would you want a job like that Daz unless you needed the work if you can get around that sort of money on houses,those kind of jobs should be a bonus that you can make up for rainy days on.
my average hourly rate is around £45-£50 an hour so id be happy to clean it.......it makes no difference to me whether its a domestic or commercial property....
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You gotta love plus VAT ;D
Lol means nothing with the Vat they pay the Vat they claim the Vat,that 65 an hour is drastically reduced the time you pay the Tax etc fuel for van and heater wear and tear.
Price it again Daz when you end up with 65 quid an hour in you’re pocket m8 😉,you are gonna be cleaning jobs like that for about 90-95 quid.
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The Vat means diddly that’s what the government want on any given purchase or invoice it doesn’t reflect the price you want,you want X some have said forget the Vat all you are doing is passing it on or collecting it for em.
How many of those have a Vat registered window cleaning business gotta turnover at those prices 🤣🤣🤣,that’s enough to make me fall off my chair let alone swivel lol.
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£10 per flat and then double it and add fuel and lunch money
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That’s the killer once someone starts cleaning jobs like that for peanuts companies that own places like Nursing homes get them doing all their properties and before you know it they don’t expect to pay what they should be,I hold my hands up people can charge what they like and what they want but all I can say is charging some of those prices it’ll only get worse for everyone.
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That’s the killer once someone starts cleaning jobs like that for peanuts companies that own places like Nursing homes get them doing all their properties and before you know it they don’t expect to pay what they should be,I hold my hands up people can charge what they like and what they want but all I can say is charging some of those prices it’ll only get worse for everyone.
The needles stuck on the record again🤣
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Id be in about €300 . Tbh i understand everyone knows their own costs and prices differ due to this but i thought 125/130 very cheap for a job of that type.
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I’m a fairly newbie but that has got £300 written all over it.
Good days graft with dinner money or give it to someone who speculates to accumulate and as already stated ends out cleaning lots of nursing homes as a living.
I have a small good paying round and would like this as a good earner twice a year as a change. If I had to price to keep I’m sure their are lots of one man bands or multi’s that can and will undercut.
It all depend how much you need it.
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Id be in about €300 . Tbh i understand everyone knows their own costs and prices differ due to this but i thought 125/130 very cheap for a job of that type.
At last someone with some sense surfaces.
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And above another one with sense comes to the fore.
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They get done for the sort of money mentioned because they are either bigger outfits or people that need the work,that job is never some of the prices quoted South of Watford gap.
If you ain’t cleaning it yourself and sending employees out who cares it’s turnover at the end of the day,as I say these people are killing our job cleaning properties like that at those prices.
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Getting cleaned twice a year they going to be mucky ;D All those trees around it with cars parking up to the windows which will probably be all parked there on the day of the clean. I would charge £300 for as long as it lasts.
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Look on some websites with price lists 25-30 for 5 bed houses without even a viewing of it,it’s a numbers game and if you aren’t having any physical part in working you are more inclined to drive prices down just to get the numbers in why wouldn’t you when you ain’t got to clean it yourself. Four 5 bed houses needing to be cleaned for a 100 quid you would have to be on a swivel chair to be charging those prices 🤣🤣
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Getting cleaned twice a year they going to be mucky ;D All those trees around it with cars parking up to the windows which will probably be all parked there on the day of the clean. I would charge £300 for as long as it lasts.
👍 yeah and those jobs last a short time then it’s an email and an evening kicking yourself coz you’ve been cleaning it for peanuts.
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£250+
Anything above 1st floor comands a premium.
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£250+
Anything above 1st floor comands a premium.
Exactly
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£250+
Anything above 1st floor comands a premium.
Of course it is Rob ridiculous some of the quotes for that if I ever go and look at anything like that I always think to myself if I get it I get it,no jobs for life but jobs like that certainly aren’t you are lucky to keep them for 3 years and then they go out to tender again. You need to make as much money as you can on jobs like that they are easy come easy go,1 moody boss or caretaker and you are gone.
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I know everyone needs a certain amount of work to survive. But since ive started doing this ive always said id rather sit at home 2 days a week than be out working for poor money. If a guy charges half what you charge he has to work twice as long to get the same money all within reason obviously. We all know some custies who if we paid them to clean their Windows they would still find some reason to complain about price .
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We would want £250 for that 6 monthly clean is a one off not a regular job in my books , we do jobs like that on a 4 weekly basis for £150 and 8 weekly for £180
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A very regular clean is a bit different although I wouldn’t be a huge amount under the longer period price,they couldn’t give a stuff about the window cleaners those jobs I’d say we clean in all weathers so don’t be surprised to see us in light rain. Clean it for 150 when we get sacked at the same time I would have got twice overall what you did,that’s the way to look at jobs like that sacked by email not given a second thought cynical but true.
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Looks about 2 hours work
£125 is a good shout, id be about the same.
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I did a Houseing Association job a many years ago new caretakers came in husband and wife team I said to the lad with me at the time somethings odd about them,cut a long story they got the other bloke in from the other estate they managed that was 90-100 dearer than me and he rufused to do the balcony glass too lol.
From that day on I said to myself stack em low sell em high 🤣.
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Looks about 2 hours work
£125 is a good shout, id be about the same.
If you ever want any work m8 email me I’ve got a swivel chair needs breaking in badly 🤣🤣,this thread gets better by the minute you don’t do tarmaccin at all as well do you lol.
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I’d rather sit outside Marks and Spencer’s with a banjo singing when I was cleaning windows rather than bother for 125 notes to clean that ,peanuts 🥜
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Looks about 2 hours work
£125 is a good shout, id be about the same.
If you ever want any work m8 email me I’ve got a swivel chair needs breaking in badly 🤣🤣,this thread gets better by the minute you don’t do tarmaccin at all as well do you lol.
If you don't work in the same area that I do then your opinion or what you charge is of no relevance to me at all.
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That’s peanuts for that anywhere Tax and running costs are the same you’re mortgage might not be but all other expenses are,fuel doesn’t alter from town to town much nor does Tesco’s or Sainsbury’s prices.
If I filled the van with fuel paid tax and ins on that job I’d be down if they paid me straight after I’d cleaned it.
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That’s peanuts for that anywhere Tax and running costs are the same you’re mortgage might not be but all other expenses are,fuel doesn’t alter from town to town much nor does Tesco’s or Sainsbury’s prices.
If I filled the van with fuel paid tax and ins on that job I’d be down if they paid me straight after I’d cleaned it.
The market rate for window cleaning isn't the same though is it. ::)roll
If you used a full tank of fuel on 1 job then yes you might be struggling but does each job you have need a full tank of fuel?
£60 pH is over my normal rate on domestic windows so it will do me just fine.
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I reckon on a 6 monthly schedule it would take me 2- 2.1/2 hours, assuming it was close by other work I would be £160. Peanuts for some but good enough for me.
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It’s not up to me what you charge I would lose on that job at that price,I price those jobs like they won’t last there’s hardly ever face to face relationships with the customer I never price per hour I price per job and what I think it’s worth.
If a customer says to me how longs it going to take I would say what difference does that matter 20 minutes it’s still 50 quid,an hour and a half still 50 quid. If a customer said to me how long will it take to clean I’d walk anyway lol no one wants customers like that.
I look at those as bonus money bread and butter domestics that get the odd small roof cleaned for free I’d look after,flats or offices have the loyalty of a cat.
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Leave them
Jobs to the swivel brigade they ain’t got to get up to the coal face in the morning and graft,who cares how cheap you can go in at when you ain’t got to clean it. 125 when it’s costing you 50-60 in labour happy days,believe it or not that’s how it’s looked upon too it’s a turnover numbers game the more you turnover the more the bank will let you get in debt.
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I’ve always said it a very good route of work would supply 2 boneheads in a van with wages and work and still earn you a percentage each month with what you can do on your own money wise.
You charge 25 for something someone else may charge 50 for and that’s done right across the board that’s 2 rounds in 1 financially,up here for thinking down there for dancing and all that 🤣🤣
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Massive block of flats huge Nursing home when I drive by and see 2-3-4 lads cleaning it with a fleet of vans parked nearby the first thing I think is that’s getting cleaned within an inch of its price lol,no other way to do it when there’s loads of mouths to feed.
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I’ve always said it a very good route of work would supply 2 boneheads in a van with wages and work and still earn you a percentage each month with what you can do on your own money wise.
You charge 25 for something someone else may charge 50 for and that’s done right across the board that’s 2 rounds in 1 financially,up here for thinking down there for dancing and all that 🤣🤣
You’d be better sticking to the dancing then🤣🤣
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Got my flat screen 📺 coming tomorrow I’ve already got the swivel chair 🪑 ready to break in lol,F**k me.
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I reckon on a 6 monthly schedule it would take me 2- 2.1/2 hours, assuming it was close by other work I would be £160. Peanuts for some but good enough for me.
Thats exactly what Im thinking.
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If you used a full tank of fuel on 1 job then yes you might be struggling but does each job you have need a full tank of fuel?
Exactly. You get this when guys start justifying to customers what they’re charging by saying they have Public Liability insurance. Like they need to allow for their full yearly premium on every 3 bed bungalow.
When someone posts as often and in such an opinionated way as NWH you know he’s talking for effect and not out of experience.
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I’m a fairly newbie but that has got £300 written all over it.
Good days graft with dinner money or give it to someone who speculates to accumulate and as already stated ends out cleaning lots of nursing homes as a living.
I have a small good paying round and would like this as a good earner twice a year as a change. If I had to price to keep I’m sure their are lots of one man bands or multi’s that can and will undercut.
It all depend how much you need it.
No way is that gonna take all day!its a 90 min job on maintenance cleans,add on another 30 mins for driving to and from the job.....
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We would want £250 for that 6 monthly clean is a one off not a regular job in my books , we do jobs like that on a 4 weekly basis for £150 and 8 weekly for £180
My £130 for that job would be a maintenance clean( 8 or 12 weekly)for twice a year I'd go in at £190.....
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£160- £200 depending how much I wanted it and how local it is. 3 hours work tops and would be a nice job at that price.
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I know everyone needs a certain amount of work to survive. But since ive started doing this ive always said id rather sit at home 2 days a week than be out working for poor money. If a guy charges half what you charge he has to work twice as long to get the same money all within reason obviously. We all know some custies who if we paid them to clean their Windows they would still find some reason to complain about price .
Get over yourself!
So you wouldn't clean that job if it ONLY earned you £65 an hour?
£45k+ a year for working part time hours is very good money where I live.....I'll stick with my prices thank you.....
By the way I've had some commercial jobs for over 10 years now....
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I know everyone needs a certain amount of work to survive. But since ive started doing this ive always said id rather sit at home 2 days a week than be out working for poor money. If a guy charges half what you charge he has to work twice as long to get the same money all within reason obviously. We all know some custies who if we paid them to clean their Windows they would still find some reason to complain about price .
Get over yourself!
So you wouldn't clean that job if it ONLY earned you £65 an hour?
£45k+ a year for working part time hours is very good money where I live.....I'll stick with my prices thank you.....
By the way I've had some commercial jobs for over 10 years now....
Why would i limit myself to 60/65 per hour . And as was said earlier there is a difference between 60 an hour for us and somebody working in an office or something. 60 an hour after all overheads deducted id be delighted. In my opinion we provide a valuable service particularly on a job like that in terms of health and safety etc so why undervalue ourselves. For the record im not being critical of anyones price but original prices did seem to me well on the lower side . However obviously a lot of things come into that in location and competition etc.
I think we should all apologize to OP though after turning this into a my price is better than yours contest 🙈😂
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Anyway im off on me hols for rest of week to rest my back and shoulders and further plot world domination💪
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Anyway im off on me hols for rest of week to rest my back and shoulders and further plot world domination💪
Buy an xtreme pole then you won't have to rest your shoulders and back!😁
Oh I forgot you cant afford one......
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Anyway im off on me hols for rest of week to rest my back and shoulders and further plot world domination💪
Buy an xtreme pole then you won't have to rest your shoulders and back!😁
Its on the list but a genny, fogger and pressure washer have cost me close to 5K so will have to wait couple of months 😟🙈😂
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Anyway im off on me hols for rest of week to rest my back and shoulders and further plot world domination💪
Buy an xtreme pole then you won't have to rest your shoulders and back!😁
Oh I forgot you cant afford one......
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I’m a fairly newbie but that has got £300 written all over it.
Good days graft with dinner money or give it to someone who speculates to accumulate and as already stated ends out cleaning lots of nursing homes as a living.
I have a small good paying round and would like this as a good earner twice a year as a change. If I had to price to keep I’m sure their are lots of one man bands or multi’s that can and will undercut.
It all depend how much you need it.
No way is that gonna take all day!its a 90 min job on maintenance cleans,add on another 30 mins for driving to and from the job.....
90 mins my ar$e
A decent job would take double that time.
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I’m a fairly newbie but that has got £300 written all over it.
Good days graft with dinner money or give it to someone who speculates to accumulate and as already stated ends out cleaning lots of nursing homes as a living.
I have a small good paying round and would like this as a good earner twice a year as a change. If I had to price to keep I’m sure their are lots of one man bands or multi’s that can and will undercut.
It all depend how much you need it.
No way is that gonna take all day!its a 90 min job on maintenance cleans,add on another 30 mins for driving to and from the job.....
Yes but that’s just it it’s not a maintenance clean is it it’s a 6 monthly job , with all those trees it will be minging every time , access isn’t great either round the back ,
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We would want £250 for that 6 monthly clean is a one off not a regular job in my books , we do jobs like that on a 4 weekly basis for £150 and 8 weekly for £180
My £130 for that job would be a maintenance clean( 8 or 12 weekly)for twice a year I'd go in at £190.....
;D
The OP quite clearly states it's a 6monthly clean and now you've changed your tune!!
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NWH you sound like a very jealous man, are you feeling burned because you are still on the tools when others are not and they don't want to be?
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Deduct all expenses from that job at 125-160 and see what you are left with,on the basic rate of Tax and Nat Ins.
You are charging less for a commercial job like that than I would get on houses time and money wise,these kind of quotes are killing us all gone are the days these jobs are worth cleaning I just leave em to the big boys to fly round 4 handed for monkeys 🐒 nuts,another 1 to add to the turnover with no profit.
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Someone was right I don’t have experience at cleaning places like that at those prices 🤣🤣,if you are winning all quotes on jobs like that you should take a minute and think why.
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I’m a fairly newbie but that has got £300 written all over it.
Good days graft with dinner money or give it to someone who speculates to accumulate and as already stated ends out cleaning lots of nursing homes as a living.
I have a small good paying round and would like this as a good earner twice a year as a change. If I had to price to keep I’m sure their are lots of one man bands or multi’s that can and will undercut.
It all depend how much you need it.
No way is that gonna take all day!its a 90 min job on maintenance cleans,add on another 30 mins for driving to and from the job.....
But that was my whole point if you read it. My working day may be extremely short whereas some, obviously like yourself rush around like a whirling dervish doing your work in 1 quarter of the time I take.
You are then getting 5 of theses to do in a day (£1500 is good money) and retire early.
The reality is you can get lots of these so called good 3150 per 2 hour jobs and always have to be on your toes or like me charge a good rate and spend the casual day with extended lunch doing the job for £300.
I am stress free, injury free and get this job twice a year.
You price, get the job off me and spend 2hours on it and I ant to know why you are so quick? Are you rushing to get the job out the way? Was the last fella (me) a little more caring and attentive which with some people goes along way.
As previously stated, it is how you set out your stall defines the relationship you have with your customers and staff if you have any.
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That’s the way it’s done though I’m afraid they pull up 3-4 handed cold water a quick brush and off so it justifies peanuts,be lucky if it took em an hour tbh that’s the way it’s gone these days.
Stack em high sell em cheap I’m the opposite to that,when you need upwards of 2000 jobs to keep rabbits running you’ll sell your soul for a job half the time I’ve been in the position when I’ve really wanted a particular job and gone in too cheap and regretted it.
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You should be able to knock 3-4 of them out at the beginning of the week and have a few days off knowing you’ve earned a good crust,that’s nothing more than a couple of houses that price.
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You usually charge that for a 3 bed semi
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We would want £250 for that 6 monthly clean is a one off not a regular job in my books , we do jobs like that on a 4 weekly basis for £150 and 8 weekly for £180
My £130 for that job would be a maintenance clean( 8 or 12 weekly)for twice a year I'd go in at £190.....
;D
The OP quite clearly states it's a 6monthly clean and now you've changed your tune!!
i didnt notice the twice yearly frequency! ::)roll ;D...thats why ive reviewed my price
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I’m a fairly newbie but that has got £300 written all over it.
Good days graft with dinner money or give it to someone who speculates to accumulate and as already stated ends out cleaning lots of nursing homes as a living.
I have a small good paying round and would like this as a good earner twice a year as a change. If I had to price to keep I’m sure their are lots of one man bands or multi’s that can and will undercut.
It all depend how much you need it.
No way is that gonna take all day!its a 90 min job on maintenance cleans,add on another 30 mins for driving to and from the job.....
But that was my whole point if you read it. My working day may be extremely short whereas some, obviously like yourself rush around like a whirling dervish doing your work in 1 quarter of the time I take.
You are then getting 5 of theses to do in a day (£1500 is good money) and retire early.
The reality is you can get lots of these so called good 3150 per 2 hour jobs and always have to be on your toes or like me charge a good rate and spend the casual day with extended lunch doing the job for £300.
I am stress free, injury free and get this job twice a year.
You price, get the job off me and spend 2hours on it and I ant to know why you are so quick? Are you rushing to get the job out the way? Was the last fella (me) a little more caring and attentive which with some people goes along way.
As previously stated, it is how you set out your stall defines the relationship you have with your customers and staff if you have any.
its an easy job.......easily done in 2 hours with hot water...your a newbie......you dont have the right to reply to this thread! ;D
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No one has the right to reply unless they use hot water,just us 4 or 5 then 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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i clean a childrens home with around as many windows as that building in the pic.....i charge £90 and it takes me an hour(on a 8 weekly frequency)which im very happy with......
no need to be greedy........some of you guys just wouldnt get the job going in at £300 for a few hours work......
i price up work for the long term as well as a fair price.....obviously this differs from one window cleaner to the next!
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Jobs like that are not long term I class long term as 10-15 years places like that change the window cleaner like a tart changes her Boyfriend.
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Jobs like that are not long term I class long term as 10-15 years places like that change the window cleaner like a tart changes her Boyfriend.
Well you would know about that ..... 🤪🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂
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You could send a bloke round to jobs like that with 2 heads the people inside wouldn’t notice lol,I’ve seen jobs like that being cleaned by some of these firms it’s like someone’s just shot a starting pistol 🤣 i think I’m fairly close with prices but it amazes me what certain places are getting cleaned for. A job like that not many years ago would be cleaned at 5-30am on to a a few nice houses for 2 days money in 1,not anymore the swivel gang are crippling us lads they need the work 🤣🤣 gotta get that 20% from somewhere.
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NWH, why do you feel the need to keep chirping in with drivel? It’s kinda err how do I say this kindly...boring.
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Yeah I don’t know why you even bother to take the time to reply do you.
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Because he is bored, got nothing else to do even work and I'm afraid also resorts to racist comments...
That's the measure of the man
Darran
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Racist blimey you can’t say anything these days lol.
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Serious question. Is there a way to mute individual posters on these forums?
All the incoherent drivel being posted by certain members is making the forum unusable.
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Racist blimey you can’t say anything these days lol.
Have a few days off. Banned for constant unhelpful antagonistic posting and a reported racist post which has been removed.
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NWH makes as much sense as Rab C Nesbitt on crack
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Saw that coming a long time ago. Can he not shut up, ever?
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I do a rugby club which is surrounded by trees just like the building in the pic. its done every 2 months and on one side nearest the trees it gets absolutely minging.
I havnt done the windows since feb because of covid , tho I am resuming in august... it is going to take me twice as long just like a first clean.
as for the care home ..... where I live I think £150 would be about right.
because of the trees and cars , I would set aside 3 HOURS. I would probably do it on a sunday morning when its quiter.
I also only take on these types of jobs if I get paid on completion.
of course different parts of the country would command a better price ....
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So I think what we are all actually saying is:
Price it but don't price.
price it to get the job but also price it not to get the job.
If you get the job do the job but don't do the job.
price it cheap to get the job, and price it dear to get the job.
Don't price for the job but price for the job.
we should all be politicians.
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When I went WFP I vowed to not drop drastically price wise from laddering jobs,do it off a ladder then you’ll get a more realistic price in your head because that’s not far off what it should be worth.
People will say yeah but it can be done in a fraction of the time now which is true and that’s the reason why bigger firms undercut these jobs and clean them for the price of 2 houses in a good area 😂.
I still think in terms of how long it would take off a ladder and I have been wfp for over 15 years now.
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£250
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Serious question. Is there a way to mute individual posters on these forums?
All the incoherent drivel being posted by certain members is making the forum unusable.
Did you find out?
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£220
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£235 Inc vat.
Some guys are still on a £1 window mentality.
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Serious question. Is there a way to mute individual posters on these forums?
All the incoherent drivel being posted by certain members is making the forum unusable.
Did you find out?
Yep, works a treat ;D