Clean It Up

UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Clean Cloth on July 08, 2020, 11:56:16 am

Title: Which Brush
Post by: Clean Cloth on July 08, 2020, 11:56:16 am
I am looking to buy a CLX 22 for cleaning FSG and conservatory roofs.
Which brush would you recommend as there are quite a lot to choose from, soft, medium, stiff, flocked.

Are the standard 2mm pencil jets x 2 sufficient?
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 01:54:31 pm
Hopefully Mr Gardiner will be along 😁

Flocked with 100 degree fan jets

Too much choice
I’ve used medium mixed with fans aw well

I think the magic ingredient is elbow grease🤦‍♂️
Most of the time
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 02:12:42 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1594213909_DAA9BD6F-0346-4D9D-97FA-8D199B32F7DF.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1594213888_CCA9B9CA-F0D7-4069-96B2-8E69A77BDBD1.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1594213856_16267DBD-CC0B-4532-B10E-EDE02C459C67.jpeg)
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 02:18:58 pm
This was elbow grease 😭🙆🏻‍♂️

Tried Tfr   Different brushes

In the end Ladder windscreen Ice scraper
And melamine white pads

Charged £15 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I’m a mug 😭

Took just over an hour maybe that’s my fault
Lost 20 minutes wfp and tfr

Lichen are absolute nightmare
Side out of shot was quite green

What would you guys have charged
Hindsight £35

Customer said no one was interested in doing

Or did she mean silly money 💰😁
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 02:20:57 pm
Fibreglass I think 🤔
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 03:11:52 pm
Clean cloth

Sure you already know but :

On fascia soffit gutters (white Upvc)

No nonsense degreaser in a spray bottle 50%
With 50% pure

Spray on brush scrub leave 2 minutes then rinse

Not got a backpack had 2 and broke
But a
Better way

Apply detergent then unplug pole and connect to customers outside tap

I use a copycat xhose for this
The elasticated hose it grows 😁

Have a pole hose male coonector
That joins pole and garden hose for a strong rinse

I don’t use anything but a weak ubiks mix on self cleaning glass on Connie roofs
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: Clean Cloth on July 08, 2020, 05:38:38 pm
Thanks a lot Lee, very helpful.

I think the roof looks very good, the customer must be very happy. I am sure we have all quoted too low and a couple of minutes into the job realised it  ;D

Yes I do spray a degreaser on UPVC first and let it sit for a few minutes then rinse off.
Thanks for confirming that I need the anti snag 'Hozelock type' male plug.

Do you find the copycat X hose springs a leak?
I have a couple and they keep bursting even when I have the tap turned down low, it may be just a sub standard make that I bought. They are great space savers but I also take an ordinary hose with me.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 05:40:24 pm
Should have passed that job onto Larry he’d have made a sweet 300 notes out of that 🤣🤣🤣🤣✊
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 05:41:06 pm
Mind you he would have been there forever cleaning it 🤣 about 3 hours.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: KS Cleaning on July 08, 2020, 05:57:32 pm
I am looking to buy a CLX 22 for cleaning FSG and conservatory roofs.
Which brush would you recommend as there are quite a lot to choose from, soft, medium, stiff, flocked.

Are the standard 2mm pencil jets x 2 sufficient?
I wouldn’t dream of doing FSG and conservatory roofs with a CLX, you’d be better paying the extra for an SLX, it will pay for itself as your body won’t be in bits.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 07:16:45 pm
Quote
Do you find the copycat X hose springs a leak?

😀 yeh that’s true

I borrow my dads 🤦‍♂️
He’s had 2 xhoses

And now a copycat one
He’s says the reason they split is hanging them up to dry

He keeps hose in a builders bucket

I’ve never split them 😁

I’ve bought him the last one
Got to get on 😯

Only do a few Fsg cleans and Connie roofs a year

Basically regular customers
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 08, 2020, 08:34:57 pm
I am looking to buy a CLX 22 for cleaning FSG and conservatory roofs.
Which brush would you recommend as there are quite a lot to choose from, soft, medium, stiff, flocked.

Are the standard 2mm pencil jets x 2 sufficient?
I wouldn’t dream of doing FSG and conservatory roofs with a CLX, you’d be better paying the extra for an SLX, it will pay for itself as your body won’t be in bits.
I agree with KS

CLX poles are far to whippy for FSG and con roofs, buy a slx you wont regret it.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: DeLuce on July 08, 2020, 10:58:47 pm
Buy an Xtreme brush for f/S/g cleans as they are light.
 Put fan jets in it for a decent spread of water.
Virosol is good to spray on the brush neat or have it partly diluted in a handy bucket so you can keep dipping your brush in, then back up to the gutters. By the time you’ve gone round applying the Virosol to one side and gable of the house , you can go back and start cleaning it off.  It’s quick and effective.
As above, sack off the CLX idea, it will fatigue you really quickly. Get an SLX. Well worth paying a little extra for one. Your shoulders will thank you at the end of the day  :D
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 11:15:35 pm
That’s the sort thing I’d change to fans for and as for the brush flocked or mono whatever cover with degreaser and scrub,those kind of jobs is what hot water was invented for.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 09, 2020, 07:48:13 pm
Buy an Xtreme brush for f/S/g cleans as they are light.
 Put fan jets in it for a decent spread of water.
Virosol is good to spray on the brush neat or have it partly diluted in a handy bucket so you can keep dipping your brush in, then back up to the gutters. By the time you’ve gone round applying the Virosol to one side and gable of the house , you can go back and start cleaning it off.  It’s quick and effective.
As above, sack off the CLX idea, it will fatigue you really quickly. Get an SLX. Well worth paying a little extra for one. Your shoulders will thank you at the end of the day  :D
I wouldn't be using a Extreme either, cleaning FSG gives the pole some stick, extreme sections are too.weak.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: dazmond on July 10, 2020, 06:24:08 pm
xtreme brush and xtreme pole for f/s/g...you want the lightest set up possible because they are hard work....
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 10, 2020, 07:50:30 pm
xtreme brush and xtreme pole for f/s/g...you want the lightest set up possible because they are hard work....
I dont find them hard work with a SLX, I don't go to the gym either.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: dazmond on July 11, 2020, 01:34:08 pm
xtreme brush and xtreme pole for f/s/g...you want the lightest set up possible because they are hard work....
I dont find them hard work with a SLX, I don't go to the gym either.

give it time....you will do when you get a bit older fella....... ;)
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on July 11, 2020, 05:32:58 pm
xtreme brush and xtreme pole for f/s/g...you want the lightest set up possible because they are hard work....
I dont find them hard work with a SLX, I don't go to the gym either.

give it time....you will do when you get a bit older fella....... ;)
I'm not much younger than you now  ;D
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: NWH on July 11, 2020, 08:36:37 pm
Anything but an extreme now and it’s like you’ve done 2 days work in 1,you’ve got to use 1 for a week to see the difference it becomes so much easier you feel like you need a mask and cloke when you’re riding back to Nottingham lol.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: Clean Cloth on July 12, 2020, 11:08:05 am
Thank-you for the replies.

I have been using an Aluminium pole for the last 2 1/2 years (when I started window cleaning)that I bought off an auction site for £50, the pole is in 3 sections and only weighs 905g, the brush that came with it weighs 390g with 2 pencil jets.
I only clean a few FSG and a couple of conservatory roofs a year. I also use the pole for 2 houses where I cannot reach the upper windows because of an extension with a squeegee and fliq pad. I am not taking on more houses, just single storey.

So the CLX is too whippy and 1420g, the SLX is more rigid and lighter at 1270g.
The brush I am looking at weighs 245g and I will get 2 100 degree fan jets.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: DeLuce on July 13, 2020, 07:10:47 pm
Buy an Xtreme brush for f/S/g cleans as they are light.
 Put fan jets in it for a decent spread of water.
Virosol is good to spray on the brush neat or have it partly diluted in a handy bucket so you can keep dipping your brush in, then back up to the gutters. By the time you’ve gone round applying the Virosol to one side and gable of the house , you can go back and start cleaning it off.  It’s quick and effective.
As above, sack off the CLX idea, it will fatigue you really quickly. Get an SLX. Well worth paying a little extra for one. Your shoulders will thank you at the end of the day  :D
I wouldn't be using a Extreme either, cleaning FSG gives the pole some stick, extreme sections are too.weak.

I didn’t mention an Xtreme pole, just the brush!!

 Although that’s what I use and haven’t had any problems. SLX is good though.
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: robbo333 on July 13, 2020, 07:49:52 pm
For me:

FSG cleans. Xtreme 22 with an old Extreme flocked brush and fan jets (they don't make these brushes any more). But very light.

Conservatory cleans. Xtreme 22 with a gardiners medium sill brush. You need a heavier brush for conny roofs to help apply pressure.

A bit of Screwfix no nonsense degreaser helps in both cases, unless you have hot water, which I don't.  :'(
Title: Re: Which Brush
Post by: NWH on July 13, 2020, 08:04:03 pm
Pretty good that degreaser from screw fix I’ve used it on roofs etc suds up nice.