Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Suffolkcleaners on June 23, 2020, 08:59:50 am
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Hi guys
After making a decision to get a PF system I’m just working out in my head the preparations for protecting my van floor.
1..... is this that important?
2... PF have advised in the current climate they can’t offer this option.
3.... How much approx and where would I go to get it done?
4.../ Could I get away with not protecting the flooring? Would there be consequences for this?
Thanks in advance
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PF have just advised I could use speedliner but it’s around £600-800. Would I be crazy to not protect the flooring?
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Well worth it in my opinion.
I got Line-X flooring in my van and it really has been good, hard-wearing protection.
Ionic did it when I got my system installed, but there are places all over the UK that do it:
https://linex.com/find-a-location
The cost depends on the size of your van, mine (Toyota Proace) cost about £600. Previously I had a smaller van (VW Caddy) which cost £450.
It will easily pay for itself when it comes time to sell your van and the interior is still perfect. (That’s what I found with the Caddy).
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That’s fantastic Pete. Cheers. The nearest one to Suffolk is Norwich so not too bad. Will give them a shout 👍
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It all depends. If you have a leak free set up and look after your stuff then it's overkill imo. A heavy duty rubber matt cut to the footprint of your van floor is sufficient to protect against scrapes if it's already in good nick. If ptotecting the investment of your van and its re sale value is of high importance then a professional speedliner is going to be more worthwhile if you are likely to get the floor regularly wet or carry a lot of equipment and take less care. Avoid protectakote, whilst it looks good to begin with, it's a messy smelly job even for those with a DIY inclination and will eventually lift and chip and de value re sale of your van - good in an old beat up van, less good in something half decent.
Personally I'd not bother for now, I'd just remove any ply from floor and lay down heavy duty rubber matting. A PF system or any equivalent should have quality leak free connections. With care for your equipment it should be sufficient.
But, if you have the budget for £600 + your new set up and want to do nothing yourself or at a later date then its probably worth it. Your choice.
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Thanks Big Kahuna. Would certainly save some money if I didn’t have to pay all that. I haven’t protected my flooring up to now and it’s fine although I’m just using a backpack and loads of barrels. Loads of times the barrels have tipped over and I’ve had to let the water spill out the side door.
I guess what is the difference with a van mount? Or am I missing something?
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If anything perhaps I will actually get the floor Less wet with a proper system rather than 25 kg drums tipping over when I turn a corner too fast.
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Thanks Big Kahuna. Would certainly save some money if I didn’t have to pay all that. I haven’t protected my flooring up to now and it’s fine although I’m just using a backpack and loads of barrels. Loads of times the barrels have tipped over and I’ve had to let the water spill out the side door.
I guess what is the difference with a van mount? Or am I missing something?
I'd thought the same. I wouldn't expect a van mount to be any more damaging to the condition of your vans floor than what you've been doing up til now, maybe even less so. At the very least though some rubber matt under the tank before it's bolted down is worthwhile. That's where dirt and grit will get trapped and could mark the floor, same goes for hose reel if you have it bolted down. A spill here or there on a good condition van floor is not going to be detrimental. Prolonged leaks or neglect is a another issue.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/JVL-Rondo-Rubber-Outdoor-Contract/dp/B00JPCUTUU?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1
Rubber matting like the above link is good for under tanks, reels etc. because it still allows for any water spill to dry out rather than sit and cause corrosion.
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Cool. Prob saved me about £800 there. Thanks for advice Kahuna 👍
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I have all our vans done with soeedliner , it’s very good hard wearing impervious to chemicals and will seal any joints in the floor to stop water ingress , cost me around £700 for Renault master medium wheel base ,
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Don’t you have a Transit Custom? I take it you have a base or trend model? as the limited and sport models come fitted with plastic load liner. The system can be fitted directly on top of the load liner. These liners come up for sale on eBay or Ford forums, I’ve seen them offered free on the custom owners group, it might be worth looking for one? You would then need to put a rubber mat on top of whatever is left showing of the liner after the frame is bolted in as the liner is quite slippy.
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Hi KS. I have the Transit custom sport model. Does that make a difference? Cheers
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Ps just checked and mine does have a plastic type lining. Excellent. So mats should do then?
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Ps just checked and mine does have a plastic type lining. Excellent. So mats should do then?
Problem with mats is no matter how careful you are you will get spillages once it gets under a mat it will never dry out pour a cup full of water on the floor and see how far it will spread , £600-800 is not a lot of money when you have just spent over 30k on a van
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Was only 15 k as I bought the van 3 years old but I see your point as well. Need to work our what’s best. Cheers
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I have a van with x-line ( same thing as sped liner ) done in Norwich a few years back - makes a very nice difference to the van and as its pressure washing van there is always water about
the wfp vans I decided to protetorcote - this is about £90 for a can and a day of your time - so far this has also held up very well
Darran
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Cheers Smudger
Was trying to get a quote from the company Pete originally gave me details of and they want to know the exact dimensions and how much I want lined including wheel arches etc? Help......
Wanted me to come to Norwich but I’m 60 miles away so said I would send some pictures with the amount I wanted lined.
TBH this whole changing over to a new system is starting to do my head in. I might just stick with the backpack!!
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No, defo change over - yes its upheaval but look at it as an adventure !
your working world will be amazingly better when you have a van mount
dimensions should be easy to find by google search - I had the floor + arches done ( no sides )
Darran
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Thanks Darran. You’re right. It’s certainly an adventure 😂
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Ps. Sorry to yet again come over so stupid but floor no sides? What do you mean? The middle bit of the floor but not the side bit? Surely you just get the whole back done? Or am I missing something (again lol)
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Sorry I’m being incredibly thick. The side wall bits. Penny has dropped. Might get a quote for both and see what they say 👍
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Back when I didn't know any better I used Protekacoat but its really not needed, throw a rubber mat over the van floor to stop any scrapes and you will be fine, well unless you have a Ford which will rust from the outside underneath.
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Ps just checked and mine does have a plastic type lining. Excellent. So mats should do then?
The liner in the custom is turned up at the edges along the bulkhead and both sides, so in effect it’s like a big tray so absolutely perfect for what you need. You will be better putting some clear silicone between the liner and the back doors as that’s the only bit where water can get underneath. The only reason you need a rubber mat is because the liner is made of plastic and is quite slidy, if you don’t have any loose equipment on the floor of the loading area you won’t even need a mat.
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Perfect thanks KS. Perhaps after all I may get away with just some decent rubber matting. Waiting for some quotes also so won’t do any harm to see what they are also 👍
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£910 plus VAT to speedline it. More than I thought
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Ps just checked and mine does have a plastic type lining. Excellent. So mats should do then?
you dont need anything!just get the system fitted on the top of the load liner.....job done!... :)
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Cheers guys. Time to think about booking the new system in 😀
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I've used wisadeck for the floor with rubber sheeting on top and polypropolene, instead of ply, for the sides in my last 2 vans. Works well keeping the van clean and looks good.
Removed and refitted the floor, to clean it, when I sold my last van, van floor was in great condition after 6 years.