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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H MAN on June 17, 2020, 12:21:42 am
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Lets see some videos of you using your swivels on your brush
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Yes
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No
We want swivel posts banned.
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Converted not coverted, H MAN.
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Not me.
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you won't from me - don't use a swivel, personally I find simply turning the pole moves the brush head how I like
Darran
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Gardiner one works better than that. Can turn the brush sideways, rotate the stroke. No can’t be arsed to make a video!
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Take my word for it Herman. I use it daily on 99% of my jobs. Twist the pole and it rotates left or right. Rotate on the glass horizontal or vertical. What would you like to copy?
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If you’re not happy with any of Gardiners products why not email Alex and have a chat with him? I’m sure he could explain things far better.
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You keep putting a link up to the video you posted a year ago.
I honestly don't see how good your swivel is. You make it look so difficult to use. I'm not convinced by your video clip. Seeing this for the first time would put me off swivels altogether. Just watching you has made my arms tired.
It's difficult to scrub a window sideways at height. I've tried it. The only way is vertically.
And no, I'm not going to post a video of me using my swivel. If I could make a clip that looked professional I would. I just don't look good in a bikini these days
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I don’t get what you are saying your swivel can do over and above a Gardiner swivel. I often use my swivel like you do in the video for downstairs windows or awkward upstairs windows.
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Honestly Herman, like others I have no issues scrubbing and rinsing up and down, sideways, at 45°. You name it I scrub and rinse like it, even upside down if it gets the job done, all with my quick-loq swivel. On top of that I also use Gardiners gooseneck valve with my swivel. The kit we use works for us so why should I/we have to prove it? I'm not taking issue with you. It's just the way it is.
One suggestion of yours I do use Herman is the filing away a small section of the inside of my quick-loq sockets with a small half round file to make them easier to fit. that works really well.
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Vertical(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592406315_75888A91-AB1C-49A4-A7D9-CC40E9F8C446.jpeg)
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Horizontal(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592406569_D5265A86-2851-4677-9471-B10F10ABBF16.jpeg)
So where’s the problem?
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Ever heard of a tap to switch your water off? Gardiners probably sell some if you’re in need.
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Educational and hilarious post in equal measure. I'm Wpf 7 years and never knew or heard of a swivel. Looks like a helpful little tool tho
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Well everyone says it works like a Gardiner swivel.
But yet to see a video that work like the one in the video.
Think people are maybe bit scared to put a video up using Gardiner swivel as they know it doesn't work the same.
Anyone going to stand by the product or just talk about it. ::)roll
Whats that ropey old sponge meant to have done in the video that a Gardiner's swivel can't do?
Apart from leave the windows dirtier than before you turned up.
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You keep putting a link up to the video you posted a year ago.
I honestly don't see how good your swivel is. You make it look so difficult to use. I'm not convinced by your video clip. Seeing this for the first time would put me off swivels altogether. Just watching you has made my arms tired.
It's difficult to scrub a window sideways at height. I've tried it. The only way is vertically.
And no, I'm not going to post a video of me using my swivel. If I could make a clip that looked professional I would. I just don't look good in a bikini these days
It's difficult to scrub a window sideways at height. I've tried it.
Proably is if you not the swivel we using.
I've just watched a video of you finding it difficult to scrub a window sideways.
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The Gardiners swivel works better than the one in your video.
So either:
Your product isn't as good or
You haven't shown it properly to its full potential.
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They don't know they're born these days!!😆
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That vid on you tube is pretty pants. Herman keeps hitting the sofitts, that's no good. If you've had golfers elbow that would be murder on the elbow trying to work sideways. Keep the pole straight in front, so much easyier.
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They don't know they're born these days!!😆
I’ve got a box full of them somewhere! Used to drill through them and fit a split pin 😀
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They don't know they're born these days!!😆
I’ve got a box full of them somewhere! Used to drill through them and fit a split pin 😀
Them were the days young Davith, I used to put a bent nail through mine to stop it popping out!!💪👍😁
Desperate times 'n all that😲😉
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what H man is trying to get across but you can't see by the video (and probably never will) is that his swivel allows for greater rotation without affecting the plane of the brush to the glass- just like a MKI Gaz swivel. This does make for a better actual pivot action.... but everything else is in favour of the Gardiner ones.
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Yep the old gaz ball and socket swivel wasn’t bad but wasn’t particularly strong and was prone to popping apart just at the wrong moment 😀 very little adjustment to tension either.
The wagtail swivel may well work too for wfp but Willy has probably patented that.
Unfortunately Herman seems to have problems communicating anything other than criticising everyone elses products without explaining anything.
The Gardiners swivel is fine by me. I’m sure Alex would update it if he felt it needed it.
The action can be improved by using longer jet tubes than standard and a collar (zip tie) to give a bit more slack on the pole hose from angle adjuster to brush.
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Take my word for it Herman. I use it daily on 99% of my jobs. Twist the pole and it rotates left or right. Rotate on the glass horizontal or vertical. What would you like to copy?
Same here.
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Yep the old gaz ball and socket swivel wasn’t bad but wasn’t particularly strong and was prone to popping apart just at the wrong moment 😀 very little adjustment to tension either.
The wagtail swivel may well work too for wfp but Willy has probably patented that.
Unfortunately Herman seems to have problems communicating anything other than criticising everyone elses products without explaining anything.
The Gardiners swivel is fine by me. I’m sure Alex would update it if he felt it needed it.
The action can be improved by using longer jet tubes than standard and a collar (zip tie) to give a bit more slack on the pole hose from angle adjuster to brush.
It was the Gaz MKII if you remember, unfortunately for him we found out where to buy them ourselves cheaper!!😁
The gardiner swivels are more than good enough. I prefer the angled version that screws direct to the brush stock- then to quick-loq. I'm using the new close coupling tube/jet thingy but like you pull extra pole hose out the top and clamp it with a couple of cable ties. This gives you full and free swivel provision plus acts as a stop for the univalve too.👍
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Yep the old gaz ball and socket swivel wasn’t bad but wasn’t particularly strong and was prone to popping apart just at the wrong moment 😀 very little adjustment to tension either.
The wagtail swivel may well work too for wfp but Willy has probably patented that.
Unfortunately Herman seems to have problems communicating anything other than criticising everyone elses products without explaining anything.
The Gardiners swivel is fine by me. I’m sure Alex would update it if he felt it needed it.
The action can be improved by using longer jet tubes than standard and a collar (zip tie) to give a bit more slack on the pole hose from angle adjuster to brush.
Alex did that.
He added this later when someone suggested it would work better.
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/quick-loqr-angled-swivel-brush-socket-adapter.html
I have the first version as well
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/quick-loqr-straight-swivel-brush-socket-adapter.html
As far as I'm concerned the angled swivel socket works better for me.
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They don't know they're born these days!!😆
I’ve got a box full of them somewhere! Used to drill through them and fit a split pin 😀
You also had to drill the hole in exactly the right place.
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You’ve got a serious problem with Gardiners haven’t you? Constantly trying to find problems with his products, but why??
‘Who needs a rinsebar?’ You say in your video , I say who needs a sponge stuck on to an aluminium pole??
I don’t know if your trying to sell something or your just trying to slag of Alex’s products (is it both?) . It puts you in a bad light anyway... you need to be careful and maybe concentrate on your own business.
‘ There is a level of integrity that should be achieved by any business by getting on and doing what it does best. As soon as a competitor puts down another business rather than concentrate on its own, then clearly there is something wrong about what they are doing.
Having said that, there is a clear line between a general bad-mouthing to be perceived as getting ahead of a competitor or out of jealousy, and defamation, which steps over the line and becomes a legal wrong.’
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For God sake Herman, what is your problem?
You still haven’t explained the problem we are all experiencing with our swivels?
Everyone else's swivels are in production. Your’s isn’t and never will be, it’s a pile of bodged up crap as usual.
Make your own, put it in production, stop slagging everybody else’s efforts put your money where your mouth is.
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Your just trying to slag of Alex’s products (is it both?
‘Who needs a rinsebar?’ You say in your video.
You’ve got a serious problem with Gardiners haven’t you? Constantly trying to find problems with his products, but why??
So why are so upset just have better alliterative swivel to what other manufactures have.
And also understand everyone oh maybe not everyone is happy using swivels on the Water Fed Brushes .
Because there is nothing that works any better out there at the moment.
As noticed that Alex has changed how the swivel works a few times already, as to Reach-It has changed there swivel movement just recently on there brushes.
So they both trying to solve certain problems with swivel from fed back they get from there uses so to make it more easier and user friendly.
As said earlier that Alex is aware of this movement as well as Perry Tait.
Believe in time one or the other will bring an version of this swivel, if not there is always other manufactures that has been watching this.
Hi Herman
You have made some comments directed at me so I have responded:
"As noticed that Alex has changed how the swivel works a few times already,"We have not changed the swivel mechanism since we bought it out many years ago - we have brought out alternative versions that connect to different items or with different angles but the swivel 'mechanism' remains unchanged from our first model.
"So they both trying to solve certain problems with swivel from fed back they get from there uses so to make it more easier and user friendly." Not aware of 'certain problems' quite happy with our original swivel 'mechanism' :)
"Believe in time one or the other will bring an version of this swivel," I don't think we will! I cannot really see any difference as you still pivot on a small bolt the same as everyone else. Even the latest Reach-iT swivel with the large metal disc is actually still pivoting on a small bolt shaft underneath the metal disc. So as far as I can see they are all the same in the 'actual mechanism' of swivel and pivot point. Whilst the look and the angle may vary the 'swivel mechanism' is much the same.
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I think the difference is in the plane of the swivel Alex. The plane of almost all swivel mechanisms I've seen is in line with the Pole. The modified one HMAN is using is a few degrees off that.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592480557_HMAN swivel.jpg)
I have never tried one like this so cant comment on whether it feels better or not. I do know that yours does the job for me.
As you may have noticed from my other posts I'm also managing to make it work with the gooseneck valve, which is I must say much better than the Mk1 version
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I think the difference is in the plane of the swivel Alex. The plane of almost all swivel mechanisms I've seen is in line with the Pole. The modified one HMAN is using is a few degrees off that.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592480557_HMAN swivel.jpg)
I have never tried one like this so cant comment on whether it feels better or not. I do know that yours does the job for me.
As you may have noticed from my other posts I'm also managing to make it work with the gooseneck valve, which is I must say much better than the Mk1 version
Using an angle adapter gives you the option of changing the plane. Always alter mine from top windows to bottom windows anyway. I don’t know how anyone works with a fixed gooseneck particularly with a brush like the xtreme cill brush which requires the right angle to work effectively.
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One of these:(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592483333_FE6BBED6-E35C-4F97-B5A2-8FB6BDFC99D8.jpeg)
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Good grief what is that contraption you're holding? And why a toothbrush on the end of your pole? So many questions on technique, takes ages with a miniature thing like that. I can't tell whether is this an elaborate windup or not? ???
I use a Gardiner swivel everyday and what you do here I can do as well but more including adjusting angle. So adjusting the angle to completely forward facing and then swiveling up you can use the brush like you've changed it to 90 degree vertical for juliet balcony railings and such.
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Using an angle adapter gives you the option of changing the plane. Always alter mine from top windows to bottom windows anyway. I don’t know how anyone works with a fixed gooseneck particularly with a brush like the xtreme cill brush which requires the right angle to work effectively.
I meant that I've never tried one where the centre of an angled swivel is in line with the centre of the pole. I doubt it would feel much different to what we already do with the angle adjustable gooseneck
I use the same gooseneck as you but the Q-loq version, and like you it allows me to do all I need to do to get the job done
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See the difference??
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592481253_MY SWIVEL.png)
Crap over quality?
Have I won?
What have I won?
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Herman's angle originates immediately at the brush stock. Gardiner's angled version starts at 90 before it angles.
These angles do make a difference, you'll never know this difference unless you have tried and compared, as it's almost impossible to explain it otherwise.
You would immediately know the difference between Herman's and a 90 degree swivel if you tried both. Less so with the angled one unless you were a seasoned swiveller😁 .
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Herman's angle originates immediately at the brush stock. Gardiner's angled version starts at 90 before it angles.
These angles do make a difference, you'll never know this difference unless you have tried and compared, as it's almost impossible to explain it otherwise.
You would immediately know the difference between Herman's and a 90 degree swivel if you tried both. Less so with the angled one unless you were a seasoned swiveller😁 .
I feel experimentation coming on ;D
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592497321_1A3FB8AB-B68E-41CC-9DF4-72BED227DD48.jpeg)Basically a copy of the Wagtail pivot point from what I can see. Wouldn’t take much for Willie to produce one with adjustable limit stops.
I think he’s produced one called the ‘power pivot’ complete with nylon bearing. Way ahead of Herman.
Think I’ll stick to Gardiners though ;)
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The Gardiner angled works for me. In fact, it works better than ever with the close coupled jet tubes!!👍
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I’ve not tried the angled plate, I’ll add one to my next order, need a new baseball cap too mine’s fried in the sun. ;D
Got a pic of those close coupled jet tubes?
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The Gardiner angled works for me. In fact, it works better than ever with the close coupled jet tubes!!👍
I've modded mine as I like even more angle otherwise can't really fault it. Three small self tapping screws along the top edge of the plate makes the angle adjustable to where I like it
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592500545_20200317_142222.jpg)
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592503062_20200618_185225.jpg)
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👍 I see.
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You don't get any resistance from the jet tubes.👍this is all it is.. cut tubes to length.(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592503865_20200618_181138.jpg)
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Will be adjusting mine tomorrow I feel 👍
............ maybe not, don’t think I have those 90 degree push fits.
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The way I see it Herman, is that it's like other tools. Take for example a spanner. You could have a flat spanner, a cranked spanner, ring spanner, open spanner and so on, all the same size. Two or three different types of spanner may do the same job. Some jobs though require just one type and none of the others will do the job. A job that requires a box spanner come to mind. Among both my late father and father in laws tools we found spanners that had been adapted to do specific jobs that they couldn't find spanners for in traditional tool shops of the day.
All these swivels are variations of the same tool, and some are better suited to one persons needs than others. Some of us have taken what's available and adapted them to suit our own needs or preferences. It looks to me that you have done the same
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It’s still a copy of a wagtail pivot.
For that reason I don’t think many manufacturers will be changing their designs any time soon.
You knocked that up years ago I remember from a wagtail. Why not produce your own?
It’s a problem to you but not a problem to us, stability doesn’t seem to be affected enough for me to worry about.
Alex is obviously aware of your criticisms and I guess you’ve clashed before on another forum.
To try and force his hand through this forum to accept your ideas though is a bit underhand to be honest.
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As I see it, the only way to fix that problem completely Herman, would be to fit the swivel mechanism simple as it is, in the brush stock. Even your effort, as close to the brush as it is, is still behind the brush as Dave has pointed out. I’ve no doubt it feels slightly different, but not enough to make it a game changer. What we have works very well for those of us that want or need to use them.
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No the one you made was worse than that.
I remember also you showing how to copy Gardiners Carbon goosenecks too with bent plastic. Hardly original or fair to Gardiners.
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Some of your designs are so professional that I’m surprised nobody has pinched them to be honest?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592549497_DC0BB09B-157A-41CD-8887-D26A2BC458BE.jpeg)
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There you go. A WAGTAIL.(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592549935_6303E23B-B101-49FD-A67E-DACAB0A76F8B.jpeg)
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How to copy Gardiners designs with a bent bit of plastic!(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592550121_9E489FC4-1F08-4E8C-940F-AFCAF6D67EF1.jpeg)
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You’re using other peoples designs who have spent time developing them, inventing them then using them for your own means and chucking them back in there faces. Very gentlemanly!
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592550570_BB52B760-4230-4C1E-AC30-7023F411B6AA.jpeg)
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The way I see it Herman, is that it's like other tools. Take for example a spanner. You could have a flat spanner, a cranked spanner, ring spanner, open spanner and so on, all the same size. Two or three different types of spanner may do the same job. Some jobs though require just one type and none of the others will do the job. A job that requires a box spanner come to mind. Among both my late father and father in laws tools we found spanners that had been adapted to do specific jobs that they couldn't find spanners for in traditional tool shops of the day.
All these swivels are variations of the same tool, and some are better suited to one persons needs than others. Some of us have taken what's available and adapted them to suit our own needs or preferences. It looks to me that you have done the same
The spanner analogy.
Hmm, seems appropriate in an odd sort of way.
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It’s a WAGTAIL
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592551474_EA267617-5277-425F-9FAF-7EC6C4812433.jpeg)
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Oh, you didn’t copy it then? It just so happened to turn out the exact same angle, the same length as the carbon one by coincidence and landed on the table next to it?
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You didn’t copy Willy Erkins pivot design but you just happened to bolt a wagtail to your brush?
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As I see it, the only way to fix that problem completely Herman, would be to fit the swivel mechanism simple as it is, in the brush stock. Even your effort, as close to the brush as it is, is still behind the brush as Dave has pointed out. I’ve no doubt it feels slightly different, but not enough to make it a game changer. What we have works very well for those of us that want or need to use them.
You mean have the swivel in the the brush itself .
Like in this video we done in 2015 we found this was a bit restrictive but as you can see it worked.
https://youtu.be/VfNyV9A3oDg
Yep, that's it. However, as you then discovered the amount of swivel was affected. Nothing is perfect. Therefore, compromise must take place. Moving the axis back just behind the brush gives you 90° of swivel and only a little instability. That instability is only slight and is easily controllable
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....... and brushes like the xtreme have such narrow stocks the difference wouldn’t be much.
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Herman's angle originates immediately at the brush stock. Gardiner's angled version starts at 90 before it angles.
These angles do make a difference, you'll never know this difference unless you have tried and compared, as it's almost impossible to explain it otherwise.
You would immediately know the difference between Herman's and a 90 degree swivel if you tried both. Less so with the angled one unless you were a seasoned swiveller😁 .
I feel experimentation coming on ;D
First experiment with what I had to hand.
I have modded one of my swivels so the pressure point is no longer in the middle of the brush but more toward the top edge of the brush.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592592724_20200619_191552.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592592732_20200619_191514.jpg)
As I mentioned before I like a bit more angle on my brush. That mod can also be seen in the pics.
I've tried it on my own home and wouldn't say the feel is outstandingly different but it is noticeable. So I will spend a day with it next week on a wider variety of windows and see how it performs
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Herman's angle originates immediately at the brush stock. Gardiner's angled version starts at 90 before it angles.
These angles do make a difference, you'll never know this difference unless you have tried and compared, as it's almost impossible to explain it otherwise.
You would immediately know the difference between Herman's and a 90 degree swivel if you tried both. Less so with the angled one unless you were a seasoned swiveller😁 .
I feel experimentation coming on ;D
First experiment with what I had to hand.
I have modded one of my swivels so the pressure point is no longer in the middle of the brush but more toward the top edge of the brush.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592592724_20200619_191552.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592592732_20200619_191514.jpg)
As I mentioned before I like a bit more angle on my brush. That mod can also be seen in the pics.
I've tried it on my own home and wouldn't say the feel is outstandingly different but it is noticeable. So I will spend a day with it next week on a wider variety of windows and see how it performs
It's a funny one this swivel malarkey 😁
You still have more than one angle before your pivot though. Even so, you have still noticed a difference. As already said and seemingly widely accepted, Gardiner's current offerings are more than sufficient. Would the difference between these current swivels and a 'ultimate' one be worth the tooling, expense etc etc? Probably not..... and we'll probably never find out.😄
Keep it up though, all good stuff.👍
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It's an even funnier malarkey when you attach one to the gooseneck valve. But it can be made to work. It's not perfect but then neither is the univalve. They both have their quirks. However, at the moment I'm favouring the Gooseneck valve. I also like the fact that all the individual parts are available from Gardiners.
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Good god, that looks like a wagtail to me....
;D ;D ;D ;D
Darran
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I truly am lost for words ???
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Yep, definitely a wagtail pivot copy.
Why have you changed the original post? Fixed brush sockets still have a place in our toolbox, you don’t want to clean gutters with a floppy swivel or conservatory finials.
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Wagga’s even got the T shirt.
Would you like a Gardiners cap Herman? I could probably get one.
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Have you thought about taking up a hobby such as Genealogy for example Herman? ;D
BTW. I'm quite happy with my Gardiner's swivel. What I would like to see is one that could be locked at 90 degrees so it becomes fixed.
Unger has a swivel squeegee that does this but it doesn't work properly on either of the squeegees we have.
Maybe you could focus on this. I'm sure it will become a major hit and all the manufacturers will be fighting over your patented swivel.
But it mustn't look like the contraption Wagga is proudly promoting. We don't need a sky scraper that sticks up above the top of the brush stock or that extends from the top of the pole by a meter.
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Have you thought about taking up a hobby such as Genealogy for example Herman? ;D
BTW. I'm quite happy with my Gardiner's swivel. What I would like to see is one that could be locked at 90 degrees so it becomes fixed.
Unger has a swivel squeegee that does this but it doesn't work properly on either of the squeegees we have.
Maybe you could focus on this. I'm sure it will become a major hit and all the manufacturers will be fighting over your patented swivel.
But it mustn't look like the contraption Wagga is proudly promoting. We don't need a sky scraper that sticks up above the top of the brush stock or that extends from the top of the pole by a meter.
Reach it have already made one of these but it probably wouldn’t fit a Gardiner pole
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Have you thought about taking up a hobby such as Genealogy for example Herman? ;D
BTW. I'm quite happy with my Gardiner's swivel. What I would like to see is one that could be locked at 90 degrees so it becomes fixed.
Unger has a swivel squeegee that does this but it doesn't work properly on either of the squeegees we have.
Maybe you could focus on this. I'm sure it will become a major hit and all the manufacturers will be fighting over your patented swivel.
But it mustn't look like the contraption Wagga is proudly promoting. We don't need a sky scraper that sticks up above the top of the brush stock or that extends from the top of the pole by a meter.
As said before this is self adjusting and no need to lock in any angles.
No Herman. I want the swivel itself to lock.
Currently if I want a fixed brush head I have to change brushes - simple enough with Quick-Loq but it would be much quicker if I didn't have to.
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This is the one that can lock in place to stop it swivelling
https://www.wash-it.co.uk/product-page/side-2-side-swivel-adaptor
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This is the one that can lock in place to stop it swivelling
https://www.wash-it.co.uk/product-page/side-2-side-swivel-adaptor
Yes, Thanks Lee GLS. But I would like one that fits my SLX pole. So what I was suggesting to SH (Swivel Herman ) is that he designs a universal one that fits the Quick-Loq system for us Gardiner pole fans. I will never buy a reach-it pole just to have a swivel that locks as and when I want it.
I have come to appreciate how much easier a swivel is but there are many jobs where both a swivel and a fixed head would be advantageous - on my round anyway.
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Bit of a long shot I know, but my budgie has got arthritic feet and he has been complaining a lot lately .
You wouldn’t know anyone who could design a special perch for him?
He’d be absolutely trilled if anyone could help!
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Well my little experiment didn't reveal any better way.
The sweet spot, when the swivel works at it best, is when the the centre of the swivel is in line with the centre of the pole and the brush is directly in front of the swivel and set at the angle I like to work at. This works well and feels nicely balanced. Unfortunately when we have to alter the angle of the gooseneck to reach behind deep widow ledges it isn't possible to always have the brush directly in front of the pole and swivel. So we just have to accept that sometimes it may feel a little unbalanced. But if you have a good grip on the pole then this is not a big issue
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Actually, the Gardiner angled swivel, in conjunction with the close coupled jet assembly is pretty much the ultimate combination! When you have no resistance from the jet tubes it makes a considerable difference. I've been using swivels for 15 years and Gardiner ones since conception but only now can I genuinely declare.... I'm 100% happy with it- rather than 90 ish%. Clamp the pole hose to give enough to allow 100% swivel action (this also doubles as a univalve hose stop), then set the jet assembly as tight and close as possible and Bob's your uncle!! 💪🙂💪
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Got to get me those close coupled connectors! I extended the pole hose a little but the jet tubes and push fit foul the glass occasionally. Swivel works great, better than ever :)
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This one locks too apparently, shouldn’t be difficult to adapt a locking/tensioning system on a Gardiners swivel for those requiring one I would have thought.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1593035853_9BBA4448-0900-4167-99FF-B3F8A54D97A2.jpeg)
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Well my little experiment didn't reveal any better way.
The sweet spot, when the swivel works at it best, is when the the centre of the swivel is in line with the centre of the pole and the brush is directly in front of the swivel and set at the angle I like to work at. This works well and feels nicely balanced. Unfortunately when we have to alter the angle of the gooseneck to reach behind deep widow ledges it isn't possible to always have the brush directly in front of the pole and swivel. So we just have to accept that sometimes it may feel a little unbalanced. But if you have a good grip on the pole then this is not a big issue
If you could tell me what angle you had on the bracket Think that of been 30%??
Of cause you can use the brush vertical standing off to the side of the window as in our 1st video no up/down motion.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1593034731_MY SWIVEL 17.png)
The problem is Herman, that that angle only works as long as you keep everything in a straight line, your pole, your adjustable gooseneck etc so that you brush is exactly in line with end of the pole. Mine feels great in that position. However, as soon as you make an adjustment to the angle of your gooseneck to account say for a deep window ledge or a confined working space, the angle of the brush in relation to the pole changes. So it's all about finding what works best for each individual most of the time. There is no swivel in the world that can auto adjust to all the variables we throw at it.
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Bit of a long shot I know, but my budgie has got arthritic feet and he has been complaining a lot lately .
You wouldn’t know anyone who could design a special perch for him?
He’d be absolutely trilled if anyone could help!
Something cheap?
My budgie, Smuggler, has no teeth. I'm looking for something to help him succeed.
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Bit of a long shot I know, but my budgie has got arthritic feet and he has been complaining a lot lately .
You wouldn’t know anyone who could design a special perch for him?
He’d be absolutely trilled if anyone could help!
Something cheap?
My budgie, Smuggler, has no teeth. I'm looking for something to help him succeed.
My budgie might not be a ‘he’ after all. Apparently when young he liked a kockatwo.
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Bit of a long shot I know, but my budgie has got arthritic feet and he has been complaining a lot lately .
You wouldn’t know anyone who could design a special perch for him?
He’d be absolutely trilled if anyone could help!
Something cheap?
My budgie, Smuggler, has no teeth. I'm looking for something to help him succeed.
My budgie might not be a ‘he’ after all. Apparently when young he liked a kockatwo.
Budgies can be jealous creatures. I had a pair, once, and the male found out that the female had been flighty in the past until she had her wings clipped. The male was green with envy (he was actually blue but you know what I mean).
To get his own back he started flirting with the bird on the Guinness advert. "Toucan play at the game", he said.
She eventually dumped him but he didn't care and said that "there's plenty more cuttlefish in the sea".
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What's more accurate than just posting them on here ?
Darran
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My bird's back on her MODDED perch:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1593123279_IMG-20200625-WA0003.jpg)
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ive just read all this crap there's a old saying if it aint broke dont try and fix it mr herman, its good you like to tinker with stuff i get it ive done it for 15 years ive tried it all, back in the days when we didn't have swivels until some bit of white crap appeared some ball joint socket thing, I've made poles to brushes and even did wireless remote trolley and backpack, I use to try it because I could, now as for regards to Alex original swivel I had a small bit of imput and even to this day the original prototype is still being used daily by my Mrs for her trolley, it's simple made life easier that's all it was intended for ok I use I modified version from original, in this came it's easy to try over complicate without realising your doing it, it's great to see people still trying to come up with ideas but to me I find it easy to keep it simple, take brushes a few years back I went over the top a bit, but some of my ideas stuck and even help produce the supreme brush idea from a modified gold sill brush I butchered but it worked, so cut a long story short I stopped my own tinkering and helped do prototypes for Alex. so keep your ideas going and be more open minded to people's comments as what one person likes another may prefer a different set up, try not to take things to personal as it's a waist of energy an tunnel vision don't work, good luck in your ideas an keep it up if your happy.
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For the people that might need a bit more info regarding the angles of this swivel.
Just PM me can give you more accurate description.
Can you PM me Herman to tell me how to PM someone on here?
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I think most Chinese manufacturers are small anyway (about five foot).
So, Herman manufacture it yourself?
Why not find someone with a 3D printer to knock a few out?
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I know what you are trying to explain HMAN, but like I said before, it's almost impossible to explain it to anyone who has never used this type of swivel without them physically trying it. So you're kind of banging your head against a brick wall.😁
You're either going to have to manufacture a quality product yourself... or convince an existing supplier to do it.
If you wish to send me one, I'll give you my opinion on its operation and viability of the above options.👍