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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Clean Cloth on May 14, 2020, 10:37:01 am

Title: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Clean Cloth on May 14, 2020, 10:37:01 am
I had an anonymous call from someone yesterday.
He had a business card that I had dropped last year.
Asked who he was speaking to, so I introduced myself.

"How much do you charge?"

For a window clean?

"No conservatory roof"

I would need to look at the conservatory first as they vary in size and accessibility.

"Can you give me the price now"

From experience I prefer to see the job first before giving a price.

"No, bye".

I want the work but he sounded very stuck up and untrusting.

Do you quote for work without looking at it first?
I know you can google pic a property but I bet he would not have given me his address if I had the chance to ask him for it.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: deeege on May 14, 2020, 10:48:18 am
I had an anonymous call from someone yesterday.
He had a business card that I had dropped last year.
Asked who he was speaking to, so I introduced myself.

"How much do you charge?"

For a window clean?

"No conservatory roof"

I would need to look at the conservatory first as they vary in size and accessibility.

"Can you give me the price now"

From experience I prefer to see the job first before giving a price.

"No, bye".

I want the work but he sounded very stuck up and untrusting.

Do you quote for work without looking at it first?
I know you can google pic a property but I bet he would not have given me his address if I had the chance to ask him for it.

Don’t worry about it, some people are just very untrusting especially at the moment.

I never quote or even give a ballpark figure over the phone, if you do you are setting a ceiling for what price you can get.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Smudger on May 14, 2020, 10:49:49 am
I nearly always go and look at work like this - you can never trust a customer to give an honest opinion of size
at worst they can send photo's

for people like the guy who rang you I would say prices range from £80 to £400 - exact price will be given when Im on site

Darran
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 14, 2020, 10:53:54 am
The guy is a plank. You did the wise thing.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Stoots on May 14, 2020, 11:09:01 am
For add on work I ask for pictures, if they don't send them I don't quote. I never go out to quote I can't be arsed.

If it's for window cleaning I can usually guess if they tell me the street and type of house etc.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 14, 2020, 12:16:53 pm
Basic window clean I will often give an estimate or use Google maps after if I feel that they are genuine.

Conny roof never on the phone.

Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Clean Cloth on May 14, 2020, 12:53:44 pm
Thank-you for your replies, good to hear from others with more experience.

When I first started I did want to see even window cleaning jobs before quoting but now I am happy to ask if the property is a house or bungalow, semi or detached, conservatory or none and quote on the phone. It can save a drive out just to be told they will get back to you.

But for a conservatory or FSG I do want to see the job first. With a conservatory, the roof could be plastic or glass, pent or Georgian roof, maybe a valley against the property making cleaning more difficult.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: NWH on May 14, 2020, 01:03:52 pm
Something slightly different I had a new enquiry from someone close to where I clean 3 others she said can you give me a quote I said yeah fine,went along she wanted me to clean the back extension only said she wanted it joined in with the others only to let slip just wanted a 1 off.
They were a younger couple plenty of money though etc,I think we will have problems in the future with younger customers they don’t think like generations gone by just want things doing when they do.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Clean Cloth on May 14, 2020, 01:29:06 pm
Yes, maybe.
Last year I did get a couple of calls asking for a 1 off conservatory clean and FSG clean as their regular window cleaner did not offer those services. I did price them well (for me and this area) and got them both.

However the gentleman yesterday did sound like a pensioner.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: NWH on May 14, 2020, 02:36:50 pm
I have plenty of work more than enough I won’t ever do 1 off cleans no point,if you’ve got good stuff up the road no matter what you are charging 2-3 times still  won’t earn anymore and even if you did who’d want to be getting cement and labels off on a weekly basis not me.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: SB Cleaning on May 14, 2020, 03:28:13 pm
I would of got him to send a photo of the job, I have been doing this for a while now and it works well.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: NWH on May 14, 2020, 03:36:07 pm
If it’s to far out I say please send me a photo of all 4 sides of the house and including all you want me to clean,I’ve turned up a couple of times and they’ve said don’t forget the pool with more glass than the house lol.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Richard iSparkle on May 14, 2020, 04:11:14 pm
we give them a minimum price and ask them to take 3 pictures from different sides then quote from those.

it save so much time rather than driving around the place

you might get a bit stung sometimes, but it works both ways, and even if it takes 1 hr longer than you thought... you've saved yourself the time not visiting to quote

R
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: NWH on May 14, 2020, 04:24:14 pm
It can be done like this but you can’t beat seeing it really,I like to talk to people and meet them that’s not that gets you the job.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: steve rix on May 14, 2020, 04:37:47 pm
We will only ever quote if if we have been to the jo. The houses vary so much around here. People will always miss something out  in "error" on deliberatley.
Bu we are very old fashioned!!
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: NWH on May 14, 2020, 05:06:30 pm
Some people might not like you or more importantly to me I might not like them,takes about 5-10 seconds to sniff out time wasters and troublesome customers.
I prefer it if they’ve had a window cleaner sometimes if they just didn’t like him that way I know they  want a regular clean,nothing worse than someone that doesn’t know how it works by that I mean you’ll turn up clean send a text and they pay.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: harleyman on May 16, 2020, 08:00:54 am
Should of asked for a post code and then looked at Google earth to gt a bit of an idea👍
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Mike Burd on May 16, 2020, 11:29:36 am
I never go out to quote. It’s all done over the phone.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Klean07 on May 16, 2020, 11:41:48 am
I quote on phone too either get them to send pictures via WhatsApp or look on Rightmove or Google maps. However I quote a conservatory roof last week after seeing pictures they had sent but when I got there I realised that job was under priced because there was a gutter along the side of it which I couldn't see on picture that was full of weeds etc! The thing that saved it though was the next door neighbour wanted theirs done too so happy days.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: lal on May 16, 2020, 12:22:01 pm
 
  I do all my estimates on the phone from descriptions customer give me, or photos they send, plus using Google maps,
  but i always emphasise  to the customer that its an estimate that I'm giving them reflecting on the information they
  are giving me, it works out ok 99% of the time, i only go and quote jobs that are nearby where i live, or close to jobs that
  i'm doing during the week.
  I found when i started out 8 years ago, that going out of your way like a few miles to quote jobs, i met a lot of time wasters,
  and i met a hell of a lot of them, so i decided enough is enough,  I would say i get about 75% of the jobs i quote on the phone,
  so at least the ones i don't get, i haven't wasted time & fuel going out to them.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: dazmond on May 16, 2020, 12:50:19 pm
i never give a quote over the phone.....and i dont take on work thats not near other work so its no problem to nip round and price the job up in person.....

lots of things have to be considered......

do they require a text due to access issues/locked gate?
is the parking awkward?
do they have dog muck all over the garden?
what type of windows are they?
is the conservatory huge?
do they want the skylights cleaning too?
is there awkward windows and 3 storey windows?
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: NWH on May 16, 2020, 02:49:25 pm
If they say they must be in when I clean etc I won’t take it on unless it’s a mornings work.
Title: Re: Quoting without seeing the job
Post by: Smudger on May 16, 2020, 03:13:47 pm
If they say they must be in when I clean etc I won’t take it on unless it’s a mornings work.

I thought some one else already did buck house .... ???

Darran