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Title: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: jay moley on May 13, 2020, 12:49:57 am
As the title says I'm thinking of changing career.

I have an interest in mental health and have a potential way in with the NHS because of the volunteer work I do.

Problem is it would be a drop in earnings. I could get by on the lower wage but I'd obviously be worse off and have to sacrifice.

In the long run my salary would naturally increase as I climb the "ladder" but it still couldn't compete with window cleaning especially if I went to 2+ vans.

I'm so bored with window cleaning and the thought of doing it for another 30 years fills me with dread.

That being said most people don't really like their work do they. It's all about the money.

The other option is changing career but keeping the window cleaning business on the side, employing someone. Anyone run theirs as a side business?

All opinions welcome.

Cheers chaps
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Smudger on May 13, 2020, 01:29:01 am
This is too important a decision to be  influencesed by people you hardly know on a forum - you should be discussing this with important people like your family

For what it's worth - I have always liked the wok I've done, it's usually the people I've worked for that make it a sh!t place to be....

Window licking is not glamorous but as your own boss you make it whatever you want it to be - for me getting in staff and moving into pressure washing allows more challenges

Seriously talk this over with your family

Darran
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Kev Martin on May 13, 2020, 03:02:20 am
I personally love my job.  I am my own boss and everyday is different. It was my previous job I hated when I was making more money.
To me work is about enjoying things and being happy and content not money.
So if you are unhappy and think a move to Mental Health will suit you why not book a few weeks off and go try it?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: harleyman on May 13, 2020, 06:59:08 am
I think youve answerd  your own question  but only you can make the jump at the end of the day...
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: simon w on May 13, 2020, 07:12:01 am
Not everyone's cut out for window cleaning so if your hearts not in it I'd consider trying something new.

30 years is a long time doing something your dread.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Shrek on May 13, 2020, 07:16:28 am
I enjoy what I do , however if I dreaded it , I would definitely look for something else. There’s nothing worse than going to bed and waking up hating your job.
You only live once , live it happy .
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 13, 2020, 08:28:57 am
If you do work that you love you will enjoy it and excel at it. Are you naturally a very patient and kind person? Top qualities for mental health care.

If you are well organised there's no reason why you couldn't run your window cleaning business with an employee I would suggest. Even ticking over with one man in a van it could pay an extra £1000 into the coffers over costs once set up and looked after properly.


Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2020, 08:48:59 am
No way in a million years would I give up my window cleaning business unless  I was forced to due to ill health/injury etc.....

It's just the best job in the world at the moment........

Fresh air
Good money
Short hours
Flexible
Recession/pandemic proof

But it's up to you.....its your life.......personally I think your crazy to give up the window cleaning lifestyle..... ;D
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: TomCrowther on May 13, 2020, 08:59:40 am
The grass is always greener. The glass, always cleaner.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2020, 09:04:46 am
No way in a million years would I give up my window cleaning business unless  I was forced to due to ill health/injury etc.....

It's just the best job in the world at the moment........

Fresh air
Good money
Short hours
Flexible
Recession/pandemic proof

But it's up to you.....its your life.......personally I think your crazy to give up the window cleaning lifestyle..... ;D
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Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 09:08:18 am
No way in a million years would I give up my window cleaning business unless  I was forced to due to ill health/injury etc.....

It's just the best job in the world at the moment........

Fresh air
Good money
Short hours
Flexible
Recession/pandemic proof

But it's up to you.....its your life.......personally I think your crazy to give up the window cleaning lifestyle..... ;D
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I suppose the thought of either of you 2 giving something back and not just thinking of yourselves is extremely unlikely.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 13, 2020, 09:12:23 am
Anyway Jay, just looking at some of the posts on this forum should reassure you that you know what dealing with folk with mental health issues would be like.  : ;)
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 09:18:08 am
Anyway Jay, just looking at some of the posts on this forum should reassure you that you know what dealing with folk with mental health issues would be like.  : ;)

How/whey are you a mod? Shouldn’t you ban yourself for making light of mental
Health?

Go on, show some integrity?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: G Griffin on May 13, 2020, 09:36:04 am
The grass is always greener. The glass, always cleaner.
On the other side?  ;D
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2020, 10:11:52 am
How dare you say I don’t give anything back my wife is a Nurse,weekends only mind you would see where she puts her thermometer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🎣
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Scrimble on May 13, 2020, 10:27:36 am
running a window cleaning business is different from a window cleaner job which 99 percent have, you cannot run it part time, by having that mindset you will fail.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: jay moley on May 13, 2020, 11:26:09 am
This is too important a decision to be  influencesed by people you hardly know on a forum - you should be discussing this with important people like your family

For what it's worth - I have always liked the wok I've done, it's usually the people I've worked for that make it a sh!t place to be....

Window licking is not glamorous but as your own boss you make it whatever you want it to be - for me getting in staff and moving into pressure washing allows more challenges

Seriously talk this over with your family

Darran

Good point.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: jay moley on May 13, 2020, 11:30:00 am
No way in a million years would I give up my window cleaning business unless  I was forced to due to ill health/injury etc.....

It's just the best job in the world at the moment........

Fresh air
Good money
Short hours
Flexible
Recession/pandemic proof

But it's up to you.....its your life.......personally I think your crazy to give up the window cleaning lifestyle..... ;D

That's the thing, it really does have its advantages.

One of the reason I got into window cleaning is that I hated poor management. I used to work in sales but I bet any kind of management even in a different sector would be the same.

As you say hours are good, there's no commute, the actual work is pretty easy, money ain't bad.

I suppose the major downside is the winter and rain. Having said that after the first two jobs you warm up n the winter and rain doesn't happen that much anyway.

I think I'll try the change in career as a test while keeping the window cleaning business on the side and then if I don't like it I can go back to the window cleaning. Seems the most logical option.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: p1w1 on May 13, 2020, 11:45:50 am
No way in a million years would I give up my window cleaning business unless  I was forced to due to ill health/injury etc.....

It's just the best job in the world at the moment........

Fresh air
Good money
Short hours
Flexible
Recession/pandemic proof

But it's up to you.....its your life.......personally I think your crazy to give up the window cleaning lifestyle..... ;D
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I suppose the thought of either of you 2 giving something back and not just thinking of yourselves is extremely unlikely.
Have you ever posted anything constructive or helpful?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 12:15:18 pm
No way in a million years would I give up my window cleaning business unless  I was forced to due to ill health/injury etc.....

It's just the best job in the world at the moment........

Fresh air
Good money
Short hours
Flexible
Recession/pandemic proof

But it's up to you.....its your life.......personally I think your crazy to give up the window cleaning lifestyle..... ;D
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⬆️⬆️👍

I suppose the thought of either of you 2 giving something back and not just thinking of yourselves is extremely unlikely.
Have you ever posted anything constructive or helpful?

Loads of times. Have you?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 12:16:49 pm
How dare you say I don’t give anything back my wife is a Nurse,weekends only mind you would see where she puts her thermometer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🎣

That’s not you tho.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2020, 01:03:10 pm
She’s not a Nurse I just ask her to dress like 1 not 1 of  the fat ones that you usually come across at the hospital I mean,give something back  Hark at her lol ,in 30-40 years most of us will be a memory to others and that’s if we are lucky how many are gonna have the title legend like me 🤣🤣🤣🤣☺️☺️☺️☺️
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2020, 01:04:27 pm
Makes me chuckle when I hear the Obese nurses telling the person who’s slightly over weight to lay off the chocolate 🍫 🤣
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Dave Willis on May 13, 2020, 02:08:13 pm
Do you attend many private consultations?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2020, 02:27:12 pm
Nurses should protect the NHS stop eating and smoking outside hospitals at break time lose weight and save lives,show me a Nurse with the correct BMI and I’ll show you a picture of Lord Lucan riding Shergar in last years Grand National.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 02:50:17 pm
Nurses should protect the NHS stop eating and smoking outside hospitals at break time lose weight and save lives,show me a Nurse with the correct BMI and I’ll show you a picture of Lord Lucan riding Shergar in last years Grand National.

I’ve never seen nurses smoking outside a hospital. It’s usually cancer patients hooked up to portable drips smoking outside.

Smokers. Selfish to the end.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2020, 02:56:28 pm
You say you haven’t seen this I am surprised at that every time I’ve been to a hospital the outside area is full of Nurses standing there smoking,next time you see anything on the TV and there’s plenty at the moment look at the Nurses the majority are vastly overweight.
My old father in law bless him when he was in hospital the female Nurse said to him you must cut down on sweets and treats and alcohol,he looked straight at her and said yeah ok you’d better turn over that leaf with me then.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2020, 03:47:55 pm
Anyway Jay, just looking at some of the posts on this forum should reassure you that you know what dealing with folk with mental health issues would be like.  : ;)

How/whey are you a mod? Shouldn’t you ban yourself for making light of mental
Health?

Go on, show some integrity?

why are you so grumpy?and constantly make sweeping generalisations about people all the time? ;D

Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 04:23:12 pm
Anyway Jay, just looking at some of the posts on this forum should reassure you that you know what dealing with folk with mental health issues would be like.  : ;)

How/whey are you a mod? Shouldn’t you ban yourself for making light of mental
Health?

Go on, show some integrity?

why are you so grumpy?and constantly make sweeping generalisations about people all the time? ;D

Was it me who made a generalisation on the post here? Nope.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Stoots on May 13, 2020, 05:27:32 pm
Window cleaning is pretty boring but if I wanted to I could work 2 days a week and have a steady £500 plus a week. How many jobs can you do that?

I couldn't go back to having a "job"

You may like the work but it's the other things, like filling in a holiday request form. "Please sir may I have a week off in june". Nah couldn't go back to that being told what to do.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2020, 06:23:56 pm
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: jay moley on May 13, 2020, 06:28:36 pm
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........

How did it work then mate?

How many days window cleaning no versus volunteering?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: Dave Willis on May 13, 2020, 06:29:26 pm
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........

Were you a supplier?
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: dazmond on May 13, 2020, 06:44:04 pm
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........

How did it work then mate?

How many days window cleaning no versus volunteering?

 3 or 4 days window cleaning,2 days helping people.......
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: G Griffin on May 13, 2020, 07:02:53 pm
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........

Were you a supplier?
;D You just never know.
A personal trainer near me has just got five years for dealing. You think you know someone and then something like this happens.
I've seen him every week for the past three years and I had no idea that he was a personal trainer.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on May 13, 2020, 11:52:41 pm
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........

Admirable To be fair to you. Why’d you stop? Genuine question.
Title: Re: Change of career or stay put??
Post by: dazmond on May 14, 2020, 08:14:02 am
i spent 12 years of my life helping people with mental health/addiction problems voluntarily......its rewarding work,they helped me as much as i helped them......i didnt give up the window cleaning though.........

Admirable To be fair to you. Why’d you stop? Genuine question.

A few things really......I've always played drums in bands on and off for years and got back together with some lads I've known for many years.....and we ve been gigging and rehearsing for 5 years now......

Also my window cleaning business has taken off over the last 7 or 8 years into what it is today so im usually working 5 days a week most weeks....

Meeting my missus over 8 years ago now......

Working with alcoholics/addicts although rewarding at times it can also be frustrating and depressing and TBH it started to do my head in after 12 years....it was time for me to move on.....