Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: The Jester of Wibbly on May 06, 2020, 12:07:43 pm
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Ok, so today there seems so many cars out on the roads.
No way are they all keeping to the rules out there. People pulling up to houses, knocking doors and entering. Watching many people walking streets in groups, again another increase in my eyes. No way are some of these people out and about in same family. I was sat at lights, and saw a young couple snogging on a bench in full view of the road with people walking past very closely.
And I thought it was us that was worried about breaches and what people thought. ;D
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I have noticed it's getting more and more busier out here.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
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And they wonder why the UK has the second highest death rate behind the US.
Lack of strick control.
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Unsurprising really, a lack of clarity from Boris and his goons on what's coming and when.
People are fed up.
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It’s been a bit of a shambles lockdown really hasn’t it, unlike Spain or Italy.
Can’t leave the house, unless you need to.
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Ok, so today there seems so many cars out on the roads.
No way are they all keeping to the rules out there. People pulling up to houses, knocking doors and entering. Watching many people walking streets in groups, again another increase in my eyes. No way are some of these people out and about in same family. I was sat at lights, and saw a young couple snogging on a bench in full view of the road with people walking past very closely.
And I thought it was us that was worried about breaches and what people thought. ;D
If it was Manchester they were probably brother and sister.
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Ok, so today there seems so many cars out on the roads.
No way are they all keeping to the rules out there. People pulling up to houses, knocking doors and entering. Watching many people walking streets in groups, again another increase in my eyes. No way are some of these people out and about in same family. I was sat at lights, and saw a young couple snogging on a bench in full view of the road with people walking past very closely.
And I thought it was us that was worried about breaches and what people thought. ;D
If it was Manchester they were probably brother and sister.
Daz is from Manchester isn’t he?
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Ok, so today there seems so many cars out on the roads.
No way are they all keeping to the rules out there. People pulling up to houses, knocking doors and entering. Watching many people walking streets in groups, again another increase in my eyes. No way are some of these people out and about in same family. I was sat at lights, and saw a young couple snogging on a bench in full view of the road with people walking past very closely.
And I thought it was us that was worried about breaches and what people thought. ;D
If it was Manchester they were probably brother and sister.
Daz is from Manchester isn’t he?
Oh brother!!
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
It was the reason they gave.
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Things are definitely slipping as far as the enforcement of the lockdown is concerned. There is even car washes opening up now! Surely this just encourages drivers to be out in their cars for no good reason, how can you justify going to the car wash as being essential travel?
Time for a clampdown me thinks.
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Same as cleaning windows I would have thought - essential maintenance
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Yes people are starting to flout, I've flouted quite a few times I have to admit.
If they are giving a half arsed lockdown that's not really being policed then people are going to take advantage.
If course the gov know this is going on but as long as most are being sensible and the NHS isn't being overwhelmed they will turn a blind eye.
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Same as cleaning windows I would have thought - essential maintenance
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Going to work if you can’t work from home so a completely legitimate reason for being on the roads.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
It was the reason they gave.
One of the reasons, nothings ever that black and white.
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Yes people are starting to flout, I've flouted quite a few times I have to admit.
If they are giving a half arsed lockdown that's not really being policed then people are going to take advantage.
If course the gov know this is going on but as long as most are being sensible and the NHS isn't being overwhelmed they will turn a blind eye.
There’s some weird things going on here. The NHS isn’t being overwhelmed but thousands are dying in care homes and at home. Talk today that the bar is set extremes high to keep people out of hospital.
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Same as cleaning windows I would have thought - essential maintenance
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I think you need to take another look at the government guidelines😁
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Unsurprising really, a lack of clarity from Boris and his goons on what's coming and when.
People are fed up.
Not really, the government knew that the only way they could keep us at home was to scare us, with the exception of a few Coronaphobes its only the vulnerable and their families who are scared now.
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Lockdown my arse 🤣🤣 we aren’t in a lockdown.
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nobody cares anymore.........weathers been great too.......boris will ease the lockdown on sunday i reckon....
my prediction....barbers and hairdressers will be open for business once again and certain non essential shops,etc.....
ive never seen so many people out and about,cycling,walking,running...people of all ages as lots of people are off work/school....
all the local druggies and alcoholics are all out around here..no social distancing whatsoever...one even tried to shake my hand when i got in from work this afternoon! ::)roll.....i politely swerved him! ;D
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nobody cares anymore.........weathers been great too.......boris will ease the lockdown on sunday i reckon....
my prediction....barbers and hairdressers will be open for business once again and certain non essential shops,etc.....
ive never seen so many people out and about,cycling,walking,running...people of all ages as lots of people are off work/school....
all the local druggies and alcoholics are all out around here..no social distancing whatsoever...one even tried to shake my hand when i got in from work this afternoon! ::)roll.....i politely swerved him! ;D
Absolutely no chance barbers and hairdressers will be opening up any time soon, they’ll be among the last, along with pubs and restaurants.
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There was a peice on the news today of an undercover investigation on Barbers. Found a few still taking bookings in the sly.
More proof that too many of the UK ignore and show lack of respect of the guidlines. Boris has been too weak policing this. A more firm handed police powers should have been given. Much more heavier fines too.
Bring out the water cannons ;D
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nobody cares anymore.........weathers been great too.......boris will ease the lockdown on sunday i reckon....
my prediction....barbers and hairdressers will be open for business once again and certain non essential shops,etc.....
ive never seen so many people out and about,cycling,walking,running...people of all ages as lots of people are off work/school....
all the local druggies and alcoholics are all out around here..no social distancing whatsoever...one even tried to shake my hand when i got in from work this afternoon! ::)roll.....i politely swerved him! ;D
Absolutely no chance barbers and hairdressers will be opening up any time soon, they’ll be among the last, along with pubs and restaurants.
Barbers and hairdressers have gone underground behind closed doors. Local news report last night in South East. Out of 50 contacted 19 agreed to cut hair by appointment back of shop or in their own homes.
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Well - they may need to earn a living as well, same as the poor old car washers - just keep the windows closed and you'll be fine 😷
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their riding round on scrambler motorbikes around here now! ;D
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their riding round on scrambler motorbikes around here now! ;D
Terrible, who do they think they are? Anyway, signing off now as I'm off to enjoy a Carvery with friends and then onto the theatre.
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nobody cares anymore.........weathers been great too.......boris will ease the lockdown on sunday i reckon....
my prediction....barbers and hairdressers will be open for business once again and certain non essential shops,etc.....
ive never seen so many people out and about,cycling,walking,running...people of all ages as lots of people are off work/school....
all the local druggies and alcoholics are all out around here..no social distancing whatsoever...one even tried to shake my hand when i got in from work this afternoon! ::)roll.....i politely swerved him! ;D
Absolutely no chance barbers and hairdressers will be opening up any time soon, they’ll be among the last, along with pubs and restaurants.
i dont think theyll stay closed danny.......women are gagging for the hairdressers to open now.....i agree pubs,restaurants will be the last to open IMO but not hairdressers/barbers......
you and the barber will just have to wear a mask and use hand sanitiser IMO and disposable gowns......
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their riding round on scrambler motorbikes around here now! ;D
Terrible, who do they think they are? Anyway, signing off now as I'm off to enjoy a Carvery with friends and then onto the theatre.
quite a few lads round here have motorbikes and little bikes for the kids.......their just enjoying themselves..... ;D
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nobody cares anymore.........weathers been great too.......boris will ease the lockdown on sunday i reckon....
my prediction....barbers and hairdressers will be open for business once again and certain non essential shops,etc.....
ive never seen so many people out and about,cycling,walking,running...people of all ages as lots of people are off work/school....
all the local druggies and alcoholics are all out around here..no social distancing whatsoever...one even tried to shake my hand when i got in from work this afternoon! ::)roll.....i politely swerved him! ;D
Absolutely no chance barbers and hairdressers will be opening up any time soon, they’ll be among the last, along with pubs and restaurants.
i dont think theyll stay closed danny.......women are gagging for the hairdressers to open now.....i agree pubs,restaurants will be the last to open IMO but not hairdressers/barbers......
you and the barber will just have to wear a mask and use hand sanitiser IMO and disposable gowns......
Time will tell, but just because women have got their roots showing won’t be enough reason so open the hairdressers 😂
When you consider that one barber/hairdresser comes into close contact with around 10-15 people per day, and the incubation period of Covid-19 is as long a 10-14 days, that’s a serious amount of people that could be infected.
I’m guessing it’ll be July/August before Barbers can open.
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Same as cleaning windows I would have thought - essential maintenance
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::)roll
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Conversation with the barber: Going anywhere nice this year ?..................... Yeah, thinking of a stroll around Sefton Park in July if things pick up !! ;D
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Well - they may need to earn a living as well, same as the poor old car washers - just keep the windows closed and you'll be fine 😷
Most had doubled their prices too
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Back on wibbles OP, the media hav'nt helped by announcing Bojo's announcements ahead of him making any announcements with regards to some restrictions being lifted this coming Sunday/Monday. That plus good weather. This has been a lock down in name only, not an enforced one unless you fancied a walk in the lakes or a day out to the seaside.
We should have had a proper full on enforced lock down from the beginning, not open to interpretation of 'guidelines'. We are all going to regret this for years to come.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
I agree about the lockdown being too late but it was because the government blew it and not because they were worried about how we'd deal with the restrictions.
They're not even dealing with the restrictions!
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Waste of time now we’ve never had a lockdown all the time this has been going on,if you want to see a lockdown take a look at Italy they had a proper one.
Give it another month we will back to square 1 again when 1000s more start dying,I’ll be working though 👍 got dozens of roofs to clean for 300 notes a pop for just over an hours work. I’ve told customers as soon as the garden centres open I’ll replace all the there broken plant pots 🤣🤣
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Amazing what you can get away with when you wear a red curly wig and a red nose 👃,I got some strange looks the other day when they heard me coming down the ladder with me size 15 red shiny shoes on.
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Waste of time now we’ve never had a lockdown all the time this has been going on,if you want to see a lockdown take a look at Italy they had a proper one.
Give it another month we will back to square 1 again when 1000s more start dying,I’ll be working though 👍 got dozens of roofs to clean for 300 notes a pop for just over an hours work. I’ve told customers as soon as the garden centres open I’ll replace all the there broken plant pots 🤣🤣
How can you go to the garden centres when we'll be locked down again?
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i know a few people who are going to their holiday homes in wales this weekend.......no one gives a toss anymore.....
im not going anywhere but im setting up my acoustic drums on the driveway to give the neighbours a treat on VE day...we re going to have a great weekend at home...... ;D......missus has already put the bunting up and all the neighbours are up for it too plus the weathers going to be great on friday too.... 8)
bring it on! :D
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
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How can I go to the garden centres lol goodness me get a life it was a joke talk about taking something so literally,it’s like daddy’s painting the door Whhhhhy daddy’s going to work whhhhhy daddy’s on your mum whhhhy 🤣
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How can I go to the garden centres lol goodness me get a life it was a joke talk about taking something so literally,it’s like daddy’s painting the door Whhhhhy daddy’s going to work whhhhhy daddy’s on your mum whhhhy 🤣
Oh, it was a joke. I'm sorry about that.
I was going to ask you to get me some chrysanthemums.
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This is the joke of all this coronavirus stay at home save the NHS 🤣 don’t worry people garden centres opening next week we are looking into seeing if we can get you a game of golf etc what a load of 💩 it is.
Keep em all shut as long as I can get to work I’ll be happy,the truth is we haven’t got a stiff upper lip and bulldog spirit at all it’s just that we don’t like being told what to do 😆 single mums with 3 kids and there mates down the road self isolating are they,yeah right oh even that bloke on the news this morning 7 odd weeks was too long for him to keep his flies zipped up bless him.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
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When they stand up there most afternoons if they’ve got an itchy arse they scratch their elbow,they know nothing more than the next person stay at home while your business goes down the toilet that’s what they should be saying. Don’t go to work go down the seafront with all the cyclists and joggers puffing and spitting lol dear me where am I working tomorrow 🤣🤣 lets go.
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Ironically this Friday many will be celebrating 75 years since VE day. Celebrating and remembering valiant courage and huge sacrifices. We've become so detached we hav'nt got a clue.
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Look at the population of the world personally its a tiny percentage is the death rate if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you can you thats life
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They did it their way
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Look at the population of the world personally its a tiny percentage is the death rate if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you can you thats life
When you get older you may think differently. ;D
Life is precious. We take precautions to preserve our life where we possibly can. You do as well. I'm sure you look both ways checking for traffic before crossing the road. If you totally believed in "if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you" you wouldn't bother to look both ways or teach your children to.
This virus is an issue for as older, more vulnerable ones. At the moment all we are doing is to reducing demand on the NHS by staying at home. Until a vaccine is found we all have to catch it to become immune apparently. My daughter has had all the symptoms and has had a terrible time with it. She is fit and healthy. If I catch it I'm pretty sure I won't make it.
I feel I'm in the same situation as an uncle of my mother was back in the early 1900's. He had sugar diabetes and in those days and there was no cure. People who had this suffered a terrible death. He died in 1920, 2 years before insulation because commercially available. Is history going to repeat itself in our family again? I hope not for my sake.
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i know a few people who are going to their holiday homes in wales this weekend.......no one gives a toss anymore.....
Good luck to them. My mates a plasterer and was travelling to a job in Anglesey yesterday, he got pulled 3 times on the A55 asking where he was going. They even rang the builder he was working for to check his story was true.
The Welsh really don’t want holiday home owners there at the moment.
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Look at the population of the world personally its a tiny percentage is the death rate if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you can you thats life
Exactly my attitude to crossing the street.
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Lockdown yeah right oh traffic was 10 fold this morning over yesterday weathers lovely tomorrow and Saturday,everywhere will be packed 2 days earlier can’t hurt they’ll say you wait complete rubbish send em back to work save the government a fortune.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
Don't be stupid, if anything the flouting that's going on now only proves they were right not to lockdown earlier, you keep failing to grasp the simplest of things, we are all going to get this virus the lockdown was only to make sure we didn't all get it at the same time, job done.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
All nonsense, there was a guy in the UK who died of Pneumonia in November of last year who they now reckon had Corona which means when it comes to infection we could have been well ahead of the rest of Europe and just didn't know it, when this all dies down China is going to have a lot of questions to answer, plus the only reason we look so bad is unlike other countries we count everybody who dies testing positive for corona as a corona death, even though Corona may not even have played a part in their death.
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Look at the population of the world personally its a tiny percentage is the death rate if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you can you thats life
When you get older you may think differently. ;D
Life is precious. We take precautions to preserve our life where we possibly can. You do as well. I'm sure you look both ways checking for traffic before crossing the road. If you totally believed in "if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you" you wouldn't bother to look both ways or teach your children to.
This virus is an issue for as older, more vulnerable ones. At the moment all we are doing is to reducing demand on the NHS by staying at home. Until a vaccine is found we all have to catch it to become immune apparently. My daughter has had all the symptoms and has had a terrible time with it. She is fit and healthy. If I catch it I'm pretty sure I won't make it.
I feel I'm in the same situation as an uncle of my mother was back in the early 1900's. He had sugar diabetes and in those days and there was no cure. People who had this suffered a terrible death. He died in 1920, 2 years before insulation because commercially available. Is history going to repeat itself in our family again? I hope not for my sake.
I can see were JK is coming from, how many people have risky hobbies and sports ? how many people eat biscuits and other non essential rubbish ? how many people take a drink and so on ?
Its the things we enjoy in life that make it precious.
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I had sex last night in a gimp mask and rubber gloves,2 months ago they said that was kinky now they are saying it’s essential attire for the bedroom 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
Don't be stupid, if anything the flouting that's going on now only proves they were right not to lockdown earlier, you keep failing to grasp the simplest of things, we are all going to get this virus the lockdown was only to make sure we didn't all get it at the same time, job done.
They've abandoned the herd immunity plan. I don't know why you're still going on about that.
How could it work when they didn't have a vaccine or know enough about the virus? It put you in bed for a week so it'll kill thousands of others (though your immune system could have been weakened by a dose of the 'flu in your 20's).
The best strategy has been to hit it early and contain it. To stop the spread of it until the infection rates come right down.
It was clear weeks ago that herd immunity wasn't an option and I'm shocked that you still think it is.
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Because they are well educated well spoken it comes across more plausible that they know what they are talking about,the truth is they are no more wiser than the next man.
If these phases are structured in time like we’ve been having we will be at this time next year if we are lucky.
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Look at the population of the world personally its a tiny percentage is the death rate if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you can you thats life
When you get older you may think differently. ;D
Life is precious. We take precautions to preserve our life where we possibly can. You do as well. I'm sure you look both ways checking for traffic before crossing the road. If you totally believed in "if your times up then so be it cant stop the grim reaper from taking you" you wouldn't bother to look both ways or teach your children to.
This virus is an issue for as older, more vulnerable ones. At the moment all we are doing is to reducing demand on the NHS by staying at home. Until a vaccine is found we all have to catch it to become immune apparently. My daughter has had all the symptoms and has had a terrible time with it. She is fit and healthy. If I catch it I'm pretty sure I won't make it.
I feel I'm in the same situation as an uncle of my mother was back in the early 1900's. He had sugar diabetes and in those days and there was no cure. People who had this suffered a terrible death. He died in 1920, 2 years before insulation because commercially available. Is history going to repeat itself in our family again? I hope not for my sake.
I can see were JK is coming from, how many people have risky hobbies and sports ? how many people eat biscuits and other non essential rubbish ? how many people take a drink and so on ?
Its the things we enjoy in life that make it precious.
But this is a transmittable virus. You can put others at risk. I don't go round handing out biscuits to diabetics. That's why we have a lockdown.
But is it all too little too late? Some people, that were bed ridden with a fever, were allowed to come back from Spain in February and go about their daily business. They should have been quarantined instead of potentially spreading a deadly virus in the name of herd immunity.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
All nonsense, there was a guy in the UK who died of Pneumonia in November of last year who they now reckon had Corona which means when it comes to infection we could have been well ahead of the rest of Europe and just didn't know it, when this all dies down China is going to have a lot of questions to answer, plus the only reason we look so bad is unlike other countries we count everybody who dies testing positive for corona as a corona death, even though Corona may not even have played a part in their death.
How are you going to know that coronavirus didn't play a part in their death?
Have you any reason to doubt a doctor giving coronavirus as a cause or one of the causes of death?
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
Don't be stupid, if anything the flouting that's going on now only proves they were right not to lockdown earlier, you keep failing to grasp the simplest of things, we are all going to get this virus the lockdown was only to make sure we didn't all get it at the same time, job done.
They've abandoned the herd immunity plan. I don't know why you're still going on about that.
How could it work when they didn't have a vaccine or know enough about the virus? It put you in bed for a week so it'll kill thousands of others (though your immune system could have been weakened by a dose of the 'flu in your 20's).
The best strategy has been to hit it early and contain it. To stop the spread of it until the infection rates come right down.
It was clear weeks ago that herd immunity wasn't an option and I'm shocked that you still think it is.
Again stop talking nonsense, the fact that they're working on a vaccine shows they know it cant be contained, the plan from day one has been to slow it down.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
Don't be stupid, if anything the flouting that's going on now only proves they were right not to lockdown earlier, you keep failing to grasp the simplest of things, we are all going to get this virus the lockdown was only to make sure we didn't all get it at the same time, job done.
They've abandoned the herd immunity plan. I don't know why you're still going on about that.
How could it work when they didn't have a vaccine or know enough about the virus? It put you in bed for a week so it'll kill thousands of others (though your immune system could have been weakened by a dose of the 'flu in your 20's).
The best strategy has been to hit it early and contain it. To stop the spread of it until the infection rates come right down.
It was clear weeks ago that herd immunity wasn't an option and I'm shocked that you still think it is.
Again stop talking nonsense, the fact that they're working on a vaccine shows they know it cant be contained, the plan from day one has been to slow it down.
When was day one and was it too late?
To me, it's looking like the last week of March and you're telling me that we could have had it November.
Isn't that a long time to slow it down?
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
All nonsense, there was a guy in the UK who died of Pneumonia in November of last year who they now reckon had Corona which means when it comes to infection we could have been well ahead of the rest of Europe and just didn't know it, when this all dies down China is going to have a lot of questions to answer, plus the only reason we look so bad is unlike other countries we count everybody who dies testing positive for corona as a corona death, even though Corona may not even have played a part in their death.
How are you going to know that coronavirus didn't play a part in their death?
Have you any reason to doubt a doctor giving coronavirus as a cause or one of the causes of death?
Griff your stupidity is getting boring (roll eyes) my point is when it comes to the death count all countries aren't using the same method or a level playing field.
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Griff your stupidity is getting boring (roll eyes) my point is when it comes to the death count all countries aren't using the same method or a level playing field.
Your touchy typist impression is getting boring...
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
All nonsense, there was a guy in the UK who died of Pneumonia in November of last year who they now reckon had Corona which means when it comes to infection we could have been well ahead of the rest of Europe and just didn't know it, when this all dies down China is going to have a lot of questions to answer, plus the only reason we look so bad is unlike other countries we count everybody who dies testing positive for corona as a corona death, even though Corona may not even have played a part in their death.
How are you going to know that coronavirus didn't play a part in their death?
Have you any reason to doubt a doctor giving coronavirus as a cause or one of the causes of death?
Griff your stupidity is getting boring (roll eyes) my point is when it comes to the death count all countries aren't using the same method or a level playing field.
No, up until very recently we were only counting hospitalised deaths.
Can you explain how other countries are registering deaths that might be linked to the coronavirus?
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Italy, Spain and France are less densely populated than the UK.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
All nonsense, there was a guy in the UK who died of Pneumonia in November of last year who they now reckon had Corona which means when it comes to infection we could have been well ahead of the rest of Europe and just didn't know it, when this all dies down China is going to have a lot of questions to answer, plus the only reason we look so bad is unlike other countries we count everybody who dies testing positive for corona as a corona death, even though Corona may not even have played a part in their death.
How are you going to know that coronavirus didn't play a part in their death?
Have you any reason to doubt a doctor giving coronavirus as a cause or one of the causes of death?
Griff your stupidity is getting boring (roll eyes) my point is when it comes to the death count all countries aren't using the same method or a level playing field.
No, up until very recently we were only counting hospitalised deaths.
Can you explain how other countries are registering deaths that might be linked to the coronavirus?
Did I say that other countries are registering deaths that might be linked to the coronavirus ? you're hard work Griff I'm out.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588845643_OIPbbv.jpg)
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Griff your stupidity is getting boring (roll eyes) my point is when it comes to the death count all countries aren't using the same method or a level playing field.
Your touchy typist impression is getting boring...
Good, now you know how I feel.
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The rules where always going to get flouted more the longer we where in lockdown, its one of the reasons why the government didn't lockdown earlier.
Wouldn't it have been better to lockdown earlier?
You know, the longer you leave something, the worse it gets. Usually.
In hindsight yes. But it's too late for that now. Italy warned us, we took no notice. We now have the highest death toll in Europe, second only to the US. Restrictions will be lifted gradually because the economy demands it. Unfortunately I think that's only going to prolong it. We've already shown as a society we cannot be trusted to follow 'guidelines'. We are a long way from being out of the woods. Italy on the other hand, enforced lock down, empty streets, no exercising outside or only travel to work if you can't work from home nonsense. They will recover far quicker than we are going to.
my auntie lives in spain and they ve only been allowed out once a week for 7 weeks,no exercise,nothing and their death rates still very high.....
But not as high as ours.
And that's the point isn't it ?
We had fair warning from our European neighbours and could see a pattern emerging yet still failed to act.
Yeah but we're not China
Yeah but we're not Italy
Yeah but we're not Spain
We're Great Britain
Well not so great now or even have been for a long time. Been caught with our pants down and now on our knees, it's a shambles of a $hitshow and nobody can deny we were not warned.
All nonsense, there was a guy in the UK who died of Pneumonia in November of last year who they now reckon had Corona which means when it comes to infection we could have been well ahead of the rest of Europe and just didn't know it, when this all dies down China is going to have a lot of questions to answer, plus the only reason we look so bad is unlike other countries we count everybody who dies testing positive for corona as a corona death, even though Corona may not even have played a part in their death.
How are you going to know that coronavirus didn't play a part in their death?
Have you any reason to doubt a doctor giving coronavirus as a cause or one of the causes of death?
Griff your stupidity is getting boring (roll eyes) my point is when it comes to the death count all countries aren't using the same method or a level playing field.
No, up until very recently we were only counting hospitalised deaths.
Can you explain how other countries are registering deaths that might be linked to the coronavirus?
Did I say that other countries are registering deaths that might be linked to the coronavirus ? you're hard work Griff I'm out.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588845643_OIPbbv.jpg)
But you said this. What did you mean then?
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Italy, Spain and France are less densely populated than the UK.
It's not a good idea to react so slowly to a highly infectious virus then, is it?
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The above post with what you have said there is the reason I just said sod it im going back absolutely pointless it hasn’t been a lockdown at all,you may as well carry on and social distance that’s all that will be happening anyway.
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The above post with what you have said there is the reason I just said sod it im going back absolutely pointless it hasn’t been a lockdown at all,you may as well carry on and social distance that’s all that will be happening anyway.
Translation “I’m skint and really need the money”.
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Italy, Spain and France are less densely populated than the UK.
And this is the point. When the death rate is taken in proportion to the population the figures look a lot different. Deaths per 100,000 of the population showed Belgium had the highest death rate a couple of days ago in Europe.
Interestingly, staying at home in New York state isn't stopping the virus spreading. 66% of hospital admissions were from the public staying at home and another 18% were from care-homes. 25% of all the cases admitted were African American, 24% white, 22% Hispanic or Latino and 22% other.
73% of those admitted were aged 51 and over and 96% of them had underlying health issues/conditions.
A figure for Essential service workers hasn't been given.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293417/66-New-York-coronavirus-hospitalizations-people-staying-HOME.html
I see Sweden which continued to practice herd immunization and social distancing has seen an alarming increase in their death rates from the virus. So questions are now being asked if herd immunization was the right path they took.
Scotland have extended their lockdown for another 3 weeks.
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The above post with what you have said there is the reason I just said sod it im going back absolutely pointless it hasn’t been a lockdown at all,you may as well carry on and social distance that’s all that will be happening anyway.
Translation “I’m skint and really need the money”.
🤣🤣 if only you knew me gammon chops lol.
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Italy, Spain and France are less densely populated than the UK.
And this is the point. When the death rate is taken in proportion to the population the figures look a lot different. Deaths per 100,000 of the population showed Belgium had the highest death rate a couple of days ago in Europe.
Interestingly, staying at home in New York state isn't stopping the virus spreading. 66% of hospital admissions were from the public staying at home and another 18% were from care-homes. 25% of all the cases admitted were African American, 24% white, 22% Hispanic or Latino and 22% other.
73% of those admitted were aged 51 and over and 96% of them had underlying health issues/conditions.
A figure for Essential service workers hasn't been given.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293417/66-New-York-coronavirus-hospitalizations-people-staying-HOME.html
I see Sweden which continued to practice herd immunization and social distancing has seen an alarming increase in their death rates from the virus. So questions are now being asked if herd immunization was the right path they took.
Scotland have extended their lockdown for another 3 weeks.
New York is a bustling, densely populated city and they didn't take enough precautions for an incoming pandemic.
A recipe for disaster.
A densely populated city or country is a reason to react and not a reason to excuse their poor figures.
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The above post with what you have said there is the reason I just said sod it im going back absolutely pointless it hasn’t been a lockdown at all,you may as well carry on and social distance that’s all that will be happening anyway.
Translation “I’m skint and really need the money”.
🤣🤣 if only you knew me gammon chops lol.
Dunno about Gammon but I wouldn’t want to.
If you speak similar to how you type, I wouldn’t understand you anyway.
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Italy, Spain and France are less densely populated than the UK.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588857610_7D9BD72B-5FD8-4739-869F-670BA9024457.png)
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The above post with what you have said there is the reason I just said sod it im going back absolutely pointless it hasn’t been a lockdown at all,you may as well carry on and social distance that’s all that will be happening anyway.
Translation “I’m skint and really need the money”.
🤣🤣 if only you knew me gammon chops lol.
Dunno about Gammon but I wouldn’t want to.
If you speak similar to how you type, I wouldn’t understand you anyway.
You are definitely speaking for me too Don.
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I had sex last night in a gimp mask and rubber gloves,2 months ago they said that was kinky now they are saying it’s essential attire for the bedroom 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Were you the giver or the taker? I reckon you were the taker whilst munching on a pillow🤣🤣
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I was taking it being not full of 💩 I can take it balls deep.
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I was taking it being not full of 💩 I can take it balls deep.
Is that something to be proud of?
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Give it a go with a name like Slacky you should be fine m8.
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I'll take your word for it.