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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: deeege on May 04, 2020, 01:36:04 pm
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www.tax.service.gov.uk/self-employment-support/enter-unique-taxpayer-reference
The portal is now open so you can check if your are eligible to make a claim. You just need to enter your UTR number and it tells you instantly if you can claim or not.
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Maybe paranoid here, but that address looks a little odd to me.
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You can go straight into government gateway and do it
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-the-coronavirus-covid-19-self-employment-income-support-scheme#howmuch
13th of May?
I think the OP link is an eligibility calculator?(Only briefly looked)
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Maybe paranoid here, but that address looks a little odd to me.
It’s a legit .gov link. As said in the OP, you can do a simple check to see if eligible.
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Just done it, says I will be able to claim from 8am on the 16th May.
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Here is the latest guidelines to claiming the grant. Number 3 looks like the only thing you will need to do if you haven’t already done it.
HMRC have today issued further guidance on the grants available for the self employed
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-the-coronavirus-covid-19-self-employment-income-support-scheme
They have confirmed that we cannot do the claim for you, it must be done yourself. They have said they will provide an alternative way to claim if you are unable to do so online and will update the link above soon.
If eligible, you will need the following to make the claim:
1. Self Assessment UTR – a 10 digit reference you will find on your tax computations, if you do not have this find out how to get your lost UTR
2. National Insurance number - if you do not have this find out how to get your lost National Insurance number
3. Government Gateway user ID and password - if you do not have a user ID, you can create one when you check your eligibility online or you can set up one now https://www.access.service.gov.uk/login/signin/creds
4. Bank account number and sort code you want them to pay the grant into (only provide bank account details where a Bacs payment can be accepted)
So it would seem a personal tax account is not required, but a Government Gateway ID is. It is a good idea to have a personal tax account anyway as they can be useful.
HMRC have said they will calculate the grant amount for you based on the information they hold.
The online service you’ll use to claim is not available yet. HMRC will aim to contact you by mid-May 2020 if you’re eligible, to invite you to claim using the GOV.UK online service. Payment will be made by early June 2020 if your claim is approved.
And a reminder on scams. If you receive texts, calls or emails claiming to be from HMRC, offering financial help or a tax refund and asking you to click on a link or to give personal information, it is a scam. You should email it to phishing@hmrc.gov.uk and then delete it.
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www.tax.service.gov.uk/self-employment-support/enter-unique-taxpayer-reference
The portal is now open so you can check if your are eligible to make a claim. You just need to enter your UTR number and it tells you instantly if you can claim or not.
No payment for me then , I earned too much ::)roll
Ah well better get grafting again :D
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14th May for me.
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Cheers for that
Just logged in and I’m eligible
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Just logged in and im eligible. Is it means tested though?
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Just logged in and im eligible. Is it means tested though?
Having savings does not disqualify you from receiving this grant.
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Thanks deeege saw somewhere hmrc will assume youre under the state aid limit.
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Yep, 14th may for me
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
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Yep, 14th may for me
Same here ;D
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in🤑🤑😂
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in🤑🤑😂
They’ll always help the poorer ones first, then the slightly less poor after ;D
Will be really interesting to see how many sole traders on here are genuinely on 50k plus a year. Funny really, this forum is renowned for people claiming they earn £400 a day, yet when this crisis hit, every man and his dog was chomping at the bit for this money. Meaning everyone’s actual wage is way under 50k!
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So my reputation is intact.
I don't like saying I told you so but it's one in the eye for that misery guts Dry Clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588617098_grin[1].gif).
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in🤑🤑😂
They’ll always help the poorer ones first, then the slightly less poor after ;D
Will be really interesting to see how many sole traders on here are genuinely on 50k plus a year. Funny really, this forum is renowned for people claiming they earn £400 a day, yet when this crisis hit, every man and his dog was chomping at the bit for this money. Meaning everyone’s actual wage is way under 50k!
Iv already said I’m not eligible, maybe I’m the only 1
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in🤑🤑😂
They’ll always help the poorer ones first, then the slightly less poor after ;D
Will be really interesting to see how many sole traders on here are genuinely on 50k plus a year. Funny really, this forum is renowned for people claiming they earn £400 a day, yet when this crisis hit, every man and his dog was chomping at the bit for this money. Meaning everyone’s actual wage is way under 50k!
Exactly, a prime example being NWH, the £100 plus per hour man, who can’t seem to decide if he works on his own or if he employs.
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Yep, I’m in. I’m really poor too.
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So my reputation is intact.
I don't like saying I told you so but it's one in the eye for that misery guts Dry Clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588617098_grin[1].gif).
I’ll hold my hands up and admit I’ve been sceptical that there would be anything for the lads who have continued to work. How they’d distinguish that I had no idea but I was just doubtful. Looks like I was wrong after all.
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in
They’ll always help the poorer ones first, then the slightly less poor after ;D
Will be really interesting to see how many sole traders on here are genuinely on 50k plus a year. Funny really, this forum is renowned for people claiming they earn £400 a day, yet when this crisis hit, every man and his dog was chomping at the bit for this money. Meaning everyone’s actual wage is way under 50k!
Iv already said I’m not eligible, maybe I’m the only 1
I'm not.
Sunak was paying my wages for a bit though. Which was very nice of him.
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So my reputation is intact.
I don't like saying I told you so but it's one in the eye for that misery guts Dry Clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588617098_grin[1].gif).
You weren't the only one ::)roll
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So my reputation is intact.
I don't like saying I told you so but it's one in the eye for that misery guts Dry Clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588617098_grin[1].gif).
I’ll hold my hands up and admit I’ve been sceptical that there would be anything for the lads who have continued to work. How they’d distinguish that I had no idea but I was just doubtful. Looks like I was wrong after all.
There's nothing wrong with being doubtful and you weren't one of those continually sniping and unwilling to offer an opinion.
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So my reputation is intact.
I don't like saying I told you so but it's one in the eye for that misery guts Dry Clean (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588617098_grin[1].gif).
You weren't the only one ::)roll
I wasn't the only one to stake my reputation on it? Ok.
Take a bow, son.
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I can't get it but I'm sure I'll be paying the tax back for you greedy gets who have continued to work. ;D or you lazy gits that are getting paid for sitting on your bottoms :D
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in🤑🤑😂
They’ll always help the poorer ones first, then the slightly less poor after ;D
Will be really interesting to see how many sole traders on here are genuinely on 50k plus a year. Funny really, this forum is renowned for people claiming they earn £400 a day, yet when this crisis hit, every man and his dog was chomping at the bit for this money. Meaning everyone’s actual wage is way under 50k!
Exactly, a prime example being NWH, the £100 plus per hour man, who can’t seem to decide if he works on his own or if he employs.
Do you honestly think I’d come on a forum and tell you ALL my business lol,I think you’ve knocked to many doors.
100 an hour I’ve many jobs that work out much more than that an hour,if you don’t earn a £ for every litre you squirt out you’re pole you should seriously look at you’re work,if you go out with 650 litres and come back empty I’d expect you to have 630-650 on you’re hip.
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if you go out with 650 litres and come back empty I’d expect you to have 630-650 on you’re hip.
£40 for me and wet feet.
Also you put an apostophe and an extra "e" on "your" . You actually done more than you had to do , and still got it wrong.
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Interesting how some people are 14th of May, Yet I’m 16th. Perhaps the lower earners get in there quicker ;D
Na, think you’ve got that the wrong way round pal.....ye better hope they they have some funds left over after the big hitters have been weighed in🤑🤑😂
They’ll always help the poorer ones first, then the slightly less poor after ;D
Will be really interesting to see how many sole traders on here are genuinely on 50k plus a year. Funny really, this forum is renowned for people claiming they earn £400 a day, yet when this crisis hit, every man and his dog was chomping at the bit for this money. Meaning everyone’s actual wage is way under 50k!
Exactly, a prime example being NWH, the £100 plus per hour man, who can’t seem to decide if he works on his own or if he employs.
Do you honestly think I’d come on a forum and tell you ALL my business lol,I think you’ve knocked to many doors.
100 an hour I’ve many jobs that work out much more than that an hour,if you don’t earn a £ for every litre you squirt out you’re pole you should seriously look at you’re work,if you go out with 650 litres and come back empty I’d expect you to have 630-650 on you’re hip.
So you don’t fill your tank up for a week then ???
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Can’t, the insurance is too high!
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It says on the info if you are ellegedible.....
'Only apply if adversely effected'.
They allways have to put in a grey area for contention 🙄
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It says on the info if you are ellegedible.....
'Only apply if adversely effected'.
They allways have to put in a grey area for contention 🙄
That's not a grey area.
You've either been adversely affected or you haven't been adversely affected.
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So if you have lost work or work has been put on hold but you are up at the end of the month does this mean you have been adversely effected...
To me this is yes...
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unless you ve took a big hit on your earnings then you should NOT be claiming the grant.......its for the struggling window cleaners and other self employed people out there (like my missus that just cant work at all).....not everyone.......
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Social housing and subsidised council properties should be only for families and individuals who are struggling or to help them get back on their feet, don't you think?
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Social housing and subsidised council properties should be only for families and individuals who are struggling, don't you think?
i was at one time........in fact i was a homeless alcoholic....is that struggling enough for you? ;D
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So if you have lost work or work has been put on hold but you are up at the end of the month does this mean you have been adversely effected...
To me this is yes...
What do you mean 'up at the end of the month'? It's to cover three months.
If the virus has had a negative impact on your business you can claim.
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Social housing and subsidised council properties should be only for families and individuals who are struggling, don't you think?
i was at one time........in fact i was a homeless alcoholic....is that struggling enough for you? ;D
That was self-inflicted in all honesty Daz. No-one but yourself put you there.
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Social housing and subsidised council properties should be only for families and individuals who are struggling, don't you think?
i was at one time........in fact i was a homeless alcoholic....is that struggling enough for you? ;D
Yes at one time but not anymore.
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Dazmond, the king of irony ;D
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Dazmond, the king of irony ;D
Griff, the king of ironing.
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Dazmond, the king of irony ;D
Griff, the king of ironing.
Only when I'm board.
I'm thinking of branching out and taking some in. I must warn those that still get their mums and birds to do theirs that I don't put a crease down the middle of their slacks.
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Hmm, I wonder how many this will weed out?
You will be able to claim from 8.00am on 13 May 2020.
Only make a claim if your business has been adversely affected by coronavirus.
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Hmm, I wonder how many this will weed out?
You will be able to claim from 8.00am on 13 May 2020.
Only make a claim if your business has been adversely affected by coronavirus.
I wonder if it'll be extended 🤭.
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Yoh have to supply some sort of evidence I think bank statements previous month only speculating
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Yoh have to supply some sort of evidence I think bank statements previous month only speculating
I don't think you do.
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Yoh have to supply some sort of evidence I think bank statements previous month only speculating
Lol you sure like they’ve got time to look through all that 🤣 what rubbish,it’s not an inquiry they are supposed to be helping people.
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All investigations will be done later.
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Yoh have to supply some sort of evidence I think bank statements previous month only speculating
Don't be ridiculous.
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Ok I will shut the f up then
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All investigations will be done later.
I wonder what the HMRC will pay for my book of names.
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I'm a modern day Robin Hood.
How else can they afford to extend the grant?
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I am eligible from 15 May
I have worked through although have proof April’s figures were 27% down on April 2019
I will take the grant.
My business may look very different in 6 months if customers cancel or suspend because of their hardship, I doubt there’ll be any help then
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That’s the problem. How far back can you claim for and how far in the future can you claim if at all. I’m thinking they’ll bail you out up to next week and then cut the rope. If you don’t claim and then further down the line lots of people cancel the service then you’re going to be adversely affected with no more help.
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How much more help do you want?
Yes, you've had to wait for payment (June) but I think 80% of your profits over 3 months isn't a bad shake - going forward we are all in the same situation as to whether we keep or lose custom but take heart in the fact you still have a biz and work to do.
You can apply for the bounce back loan as well up to 50k - no payments or interest for a year then fixed at 2.5%
Darran
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Til September'll do.
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Til September'll do.
Trouble with Socialism is you run out of other people’s money to spend.
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Til September'll do.
Trouble with Socialism is you run out of other people’s money to spend.
An old cliche from Margaret ::)roll.
You don't run out if you get it all in. If you'd prefer the wealthy to keep theirs listen to Margaret ;).
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If it's their's, it's theirs.
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If it's their's, it's theirs.
Their taxes are not; or they shouldn't be.
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You didnt say taxes at first and nor did I 😀 I simply spoke about money.
You cant move the goal-posts to suit your objective.
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It's the main way that governments get their money.
That's what Margaret was talking about.
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Which is why taxes in Socialist societies are always a lot higher. An unworkable system if you believe people should be able to spend their money on the services they choose. Instead of the Govt spending it for you.
Simples.
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Which is why taxes in Socialist societies are always a lot higher. An unworkable system if you believe people should be able to spend their money on the services they choose. Instead of the Govt spending it for you.
Simples.
That's what you're led to believe. But you are not wealthy. It's about the wealthy paying what they should and not the likes of us paying more.
You're happy for the government spending on the NHS and the SEISS though?
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Protect the NHS clean windows.
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Which is why taxes in Socialist societies are always a lot higher. An unworkable system if you believe people should be able to spend their money on the services they choose. Instead of the Govt spending it for you.
Simples.
That's what you're led to believe. But you are not wealthy. It's about the wealthy paying what they should and not the likes of us paying more.
You're happy for the government spending on the NHS and the SEISS though?
No I think the NHS is underfunded, Id willingly pay more tax to ensure it was fit for purpose. That doesnt mean I subscribe to socialist Govt. or excessive taxation. Ive lived and worked in a European country where I paid 48%; the unemployed could be given ridiculous benefits such as TVs by the state. No thanks. Where’s the incentive to work.
‘The wealthy paying what they should’. We probably all agree on that statement, but disagree on the meaning of the word ‘should’. Where’s the incentive to be an entrepreneur, an innovator, to push forward in a business sense, supplying work and labour, if you’re going to end up paying 70% of your profits back in tax? The benefit to the economy with regards entrepenurs and investors is they supply a work force with work who themselves then pay tax.
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Which is why taxes in Socialist societies are always a lot higher. An unworkable system if you believe people should be able to spend their money on the services they choose. Instead of the Govt spending it for you.
Simples.
That's what you're led to believe. But you are not wealthy. It's about the wealthy paying what they should and not the likes of us paying more.
You're happy for the government spending on the NHS and the SEISS though?
No I think the NHS is underfunded, Id willingly pay more tax to ensure it was fit for purpose. That doesnt mean I subscribe to socialist Govt. or excessive taxation. Ive lived and worked in a European country where I paid 48%; the unemployed could be given ridiculous benefits such as TVs by the state. No thanks. Where’s the incentive to work.
‘The wealthy paying what they should’. We probably all agree on that statement, but disagree on the meaning of the word ‘should’. Where’s the incentive to be an entrepreneur, an innovator, to push forward in a business sense, supplying work and labour, if you’re going to end up paying 70% of your profits back in tax? The benefit to the economy with regards entrepenurs and investors is they supply a work force with work who themselves then pay tax.
And avoid and evade tax.
Why should they pay less than you?
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If they earn more than me they’ll pay more than me.
There is a happy place between 20% tax and 70% tax, Griff.
Everything is so black and white to you.
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If they earn more than me they’ll pay more than me.
There is a happy place between 20% tax and 70% tax, Griff.
Everything is so black and white to you.
Who mentioned 70%? Some of them don't pay 20%! Some pay none!!
Don't be so naive.
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Socialism never works, has never worked and will never work.
The idea we’re all entitled to money is obscene.
You either earn it, or you don’t. Of course a welfare state for those that cannot work is fair and necessary.
I don’t give two hoots what other people earn, I don’t deserve their money. They earned it, not me.
It’s my attitude of acceptance that some people are rich that enables me to pursue a better income myself. Rather than the victim mentality, which just breeds idleness and lack of self worth.
Socialism is a very dangerous policy. Always fails. Every single time. Always brings more poverty in the end.
Capitalism is the best of the bunch, albeit flawed in many ways itself.
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If they earn more than me they’ll pay more than me.
There is a happy place between 20% tax and 70% tax, Griff.
Everything is so black and white to you.
Who mentioned 70%? Some of them don't pay 20%! Some pay none!!
Don't be so naive.
I did.
Some who should only pay 20% pay nothing too. Thats nothing to do with socialism, communism or capitalism. Thats just human nature. You cant politicise that. Its always happened always will.
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I never mentioned socialism though.
Slacky has, a few times, and so has Zesty. They're both willing to accept a socialist handout and then tell us that socialism doesn't work.
Strange.
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You can't back pedal now Griff.
Thats because I've paid my taxes, every penny, and am entitled to it. I believe in having what you're entitled too. I'll be paying it back in increased taxes. Only a mug wouldn't take it.
It's a Tory handout btw, you just don't recognise it as one as you're still sore over the 'B' word thingy from the last few years; Labour are off field, off the radar, out for the count; we won't be getting any handouts from them any time soon.
I can be a capitalist too.
Is that like a Champagne Socialist?
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You can't back pedal now Griff.
Thats because I've paid my taxes, every penny, and am entitled to it. I believe in having what you're entitled too. I'll be paying it back in increased taxes. Only a mug wouldn't take it.
It's a Tory handout btw, you just don't recognise it as one as you're still sore over the 'B' word thingy from the last few years; Labour are off field, off the radar, out for the count; we won't be getting any handouts from them any time soon.
I can be a capitalist too.
Is that like a Champagne Socialist?
How am I back-pedaling?
I don't care if you take the grant; the grant that you are now politicising. I didn't bring socialism into the debate or start quoting Margaret. Now you're bringing up Brexit and the Labour party!
All I said is, tongue in cheek, that I want the grant 'til September. You then implied that we can't afford it. You're probably right but I'll follow the government lead.
Socialists are allowed champagne. It's a common misconception that they aren't.