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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Bungle on April 27, 2020, 04:09:08 pm
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There can’t be any excuse for not going back yet can there?
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School's still closed and Mummy dearest is working.
I'm open to it but it's only windows, isn't it?
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Never stopped haven't taken one working day off since it started 8)
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Went back today....glad i took the 5 weeks off but also glad to get back to work and have some normality in my life..had a few cancellations but picked up one new customer, think it will be a bit up and down for a while but had no problems..distancing was easy enough and no traffic about made the day a lot less stressful.
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I am finding the results of this poll a bit weird, all previous polls revealed that at any point there was at most a 50/50 split !
Yet now it’s almost 75 % that never stopped , few fibbers in the ranks me thinks ;D
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I am off .as all my work is on a scottish island ferry company has been refusing travel to all but essential workers .
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Can’t you swim ;D
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I am finding the results of this poll a bit weird, all previous polls revealed that at any point there was at most a 50/50 split !
Yet now it’s almost 75 % that never stopped , few fibbers in the ranks me thinks ;D
yep i think so too richy....... ;D
in fact i thought i was the only window cleaner on here who carried on as normal from the start of the so called lockdown while everybody else was having a meltdown! ;D
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7 miles. By time I got there lockdown would be over .
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I am finding the results of this poll a bit weird, all previous polls revealed that at any point there was at most a 50/50 split !
Yet now it’s almost 75 % that never stopped , few fibbers in the ranks me thinks ;D
yep i think so too richy....... ;D
in fact i thought i was the only window cleaner on here who carried on as normal from the start of the so called lockdown while everybody else was having a meltdown! ;D
I never stopped either, and I agree a lot are telling porkies ;D
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I am off .as all my work is on a scottish island ferry company has been refusing travel to all but essential workers .
Tell us more. I’m intrigued.
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I am finding the results of this poll a bit weird, all previous polls revealed that at any point there was at most a 50/50 split !
Yet now it’s almost 75 % that never stopped , few fibbers in the ranks me thinks ;D
yep i think so too richy....... ;D
in fact i thought i was the only window cleaner on here who carried on as normal from the start of the so called lockdown while everybody else was having a meltdown! ;D
No you weren’t I have carried on as normal as well,I’ve worked every week for 6 weeks since this has been going on the days I’ve had off is because the weathers been so nice by choice.
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Bungle thought you weren’t going back till after lockdown
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I didn’t do the first week , but the weather was poop here anyway , I just think some didn’t want to be seen as doing the so called “Wrong thing”
But others are going back now as it’s seen as ok , so what have they achieved, we are sill locked down and they have spent their savings !
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I didn’t do the first week , but the weather was poop here anyway , I just think some didn’t want to be seen as doing the so called “Wrong thing”
But others are going back now as it’s seen as ok , so what have they achieved, we are sill locked down and they have spent their savings !
And got 5 weeks behind with their work in all this lovely weather we've had.
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is it true that window cleaners are not allowed to work in ireland?some guy on youtube says he is not allowed to work over there at all even if you work on your own...... :(
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Bungle thought you weren’t going back till after lockdown
Had to get away from her indoors 🤪. Plus I’ve been told someone has been going round posting his flyers touting for business. You know who he is.
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😀 the way your working now, with distancing, will be the new way for some time, I carried on mate, it’s been fine
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is it true that window cleaners are not allowed to work in ireland?some guy on youtube says he is not allowed to work over there at all even if you work on your own...... :(
According to a load on here you're not allowed to work in England if you listen to the wrong people.
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Calmac (ferry provider ) only allowing essential workers on to the island .police been sending people back home .you can clean if you live on the island.some people are wanting to keep the island on lockdown , by keeping every one off the island that doesn't need to be there .but unfortunately there has been one confirmed death ,and another case I know of .
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There can’t be any excuse for not going back yet can there?
Yet another poll that doesn't give the options needed.
Where is "Stopped for a while and then went back sometime in the last few weeks."?
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As it stands at the moment 77% never stopped ;D
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
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is it true that window cleaners are not allowed to work in ireland?some guy on youtube says he is not allowed to work over there at all even if you work on your own...... :(
Yes, friend of mine works in Co Meath. 5th week off this week. Essential workers only but a small few are flouting it. he's getting 350 a week paid into his bank to be off.
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Everyone that has been adversely affected should claim it.
I can't understand why so many are now saying that they didn't stop.
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Course and you still might do.
I wonder if people see it as losing face by admitting to stopping work. The poll results don't reflect the true feeling on here.
There's no right and wrong.
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
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I wonder if the 2 characters on here that do the most boasting will be secretly desperate for their 80%.
Assuming they pay tax of course.
Which I doubt.
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Who REALLY cares what others think in reality Matt?
I dont give a f**k........😀👍
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
That's not the reason for you claiming it though.
I reckon you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. You won't be asked do you want to claim it because your NI contributions are set to increase anyway.
I'm just preparing you so that you don't anything questionable when they contact you.
Anyway, what happened to you saying that we wouldn't get it because 'we' could continue working?
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Course and you still might do.
I wonder if people see it as losing face by admitting to stopping work. The poll results don't reflect the true feeling on here.
There's no right and wrong.
I wonder if there’s a way of seeing who voted for what and then checking their vote against their post history :D
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
We are talking about guys on here Griff, not nationwide, I cant remember more than 10 or so stating that they had stopped working but if you think there are a lot more then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove, as per usual I wont hold my breath waiting. (roll eyes)
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I am still not working, I will review it in 2 Weeks.
I am not bothered about the help from the government.
I am gutted this whole thing has happened and cant wait to get back to work
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
That's not the reason for you claiming it though.
I reckon you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. You won't be asked do you want to claim it because your NI contributions are set to increase anyway.
I'm just preparing you so that you don't anything questionable when they contact you.
Anyway, what happened to you saying that we wouldn't get it because 'we' could continue working?
You're getting worse, I haven't lost enough work or money for me to genuinely need this handout so will claim it for the reason I stated, if it is now going to be means tested (make up your mind) then I wont get it and wont care, this also answers your last stupid question.
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I didn't work the first week of lock down being announced and have worked on and off since when the mood has taken me. I'm covering my bills, that's all I'm really concerned about. One thing I've noticed is with so much business closed and all but essential shopping, I need far less money than I thought I did. Certainly feels weird working when every shop that's open I drive by has a line outside of people social distancing in face masks. I'm having this week off, weather gonna be poop anyway. When I do work I make each day count with well paying full days. Just count myself lucky I'm self employed in a job that I'm still able to do if I wish, so many are not.
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I am still not working, I will review it in 2 Weeks.
I am not bothered about the help from the government.
I am gutted this whole thing has happened and cant wait to get back to work
Go back to work then ;D
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
We are talking about guys on here Griff, not nationwide, I cant remember more than 10 or so stating that they had stopped working but if you think there are a lot more then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove, as per usual I wont hold my breath waiting. (roll eyes)
What?
Everything that you've asked me to prove or quote I have done. Then you go silent.
I'll tell you what, I'll bet you £100 for the James Styles fund that I can name 20 people on here that didn't work for the rest of the week after Boris' speech.
Are we on?
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Things are opening back up where I am, I went past a main dealer approved used that was open , an Aldi build has workers back on it , house building is resuming opposite my parents , B&Q back open , van sales I use is back open , and all the local garden centres are now open too !
Won’t be long and you will have no choice as I reckon a cut off for the 80% is on the way
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=217952.0
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
That's not the reason for you claiming it though.
I reckon you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. You won't be asked do you want to claim it because your NI contributions are set to increase anyway.
I'm just preparing you so that you don't anything questionable when they contact you.
Anyway, what happened to you saying that we wouldn't get it because 'we' could continue working?
You're getting worse, I haven't lost enough work or money for me to genuinely need this handout so will claim it for the reason I stated, if it is now going to be means tested (make up your mind) then I wont get it and wont care, this also answers your last stupid question.
I never said it was means tested (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588072099_rolleyes[1].gif).
I think you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by the coronavirus. If you think yours wasn't or isn't going to be just say 'no'; in true Grange Hill style.
I don't want to encourage you to lie or to claim something for the wrong reason.
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=217788.0
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So 2 thirds stopped and 2 thirds never stopped ;D
How do you get 4 thirds in a whole ???
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=217788.0
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588072939_wink[1].gif)
Let's see if Dry Clean will put his money where his mouth is.
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Either way you look at it 1 third of the forum tell porky pies ;D ;D ;D
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I stopped for 4 weeks and really enjoyed it!! ;D Got loads of home jobs done!
Went back last week to test the water and working this week also. Will see how it all pans out, if the risk returns to previous levels then I'll be off again without question!
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
We are talking about guys on here Griff, not nationwide, I cant remember more than 10 or so stating that they had stopped working but if you think there are a lot more then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove, as per usual I wont hold my breath waiting. (roll eyes)
What?
Everything that you've asked me to prove or quote I have done. Then you go silent.
I'll tell you what, I'll bet you £100 for the James Styles fund that I can name 20 people on here that didn't work for the rest of the week after Boris' speech.
Are we on?
Stop being an idiot Griff, I plucked 10 or so out of the air but even 20 wouldn't be classed as a lot and certainly wouldn't lead to an assumption that a lot of people on here have changed their tune and are lying.
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
That's not the reason for you claiming it though.
I reckon you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. You won't be asked do you want to claim it because your NI contributions are set to increase anyway.
I'm just preparing you so that you don't anything questionable when they contact you.
Anyway, what happened to you saying that we wouldn't get it because 'we' could continue working?
You're getting worse, I haven't lost enough work or money for me to genuinely need this handout so will claim it for the reason I stated, if it is now going to be means tested (make up your mind) then I wont get it and wont care, this also answers your last stupid question.
I never said it was means tested (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588072099_rolleyes[1].gif).
I think you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by the coronavirus. If you think yours wasn't or isn't going to be just say 'no'; in true Grange Hill style.
I don't want to encourage you to lie or to claim something for the wrong reason.
Back to the same old drivel, (roll eyes) Iv lost around 10 customers and 1 commercial job so would this be classed as adversely effected ? plus if your business has to be adversely effected to be entitled to a claim then how isn't this being means tested ?
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This is the main reason I kept working after the first week , I just have a funny feeling that a big U turn will be done .
The “ Everybody can have it “ line will change to “ You can have it once you jump through all these hoops and we have pulled your paperwork apart “
I would say that I am about 30% down since the virus hit , I have used no savings as I didn’t have any and so far have taken none of the payment holidays that are on offer , I should stay in the green so that’s good enough for me , and if any of the so called government help should materialise then I will take it !
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
We are talking about guys on here Griff, not nationwide, I cant remember more than 10 or so stating that they had stopped working but if you think there are a lot more then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove, as per usual I wont hold my breath waiting. (roll eyes)
What?
Everything that you've asked me to prove or quote I have done. Then you go silent.
I'll tell you what, I'll bet you £100 for the James Styles fund that I can name 20 people on here that didn't work for the rest of the week after Boris' speech.
Are we on?
Stop being an idiot Griff, I plucked 10 or so out of the air but even 20 wouldn't be classed as a lot and certainly wouldn't lead to an assumption that a lot of people on here have changed their tune and are lying.
Griff isn't being an idiot - he seems to be quite right - there have been two posters who have put up a poll which shows that 33 didn't work straight after Boris's announcement. I didn't in the days after.
The problem is that the poll on this thread is not very good as it didn't give the option.
Off forum where I work I know by talking to window cleaners around my area that - with one dazmond like, money minded exception - everyone stopped for at least a couple of days and then started going back towards the end of the week the lockdown announcement was made or the week after.
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
That's not the reason for you claiming it though.
I reckon you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. You won't be asked do you want to claim it because your NI contributions are set to increase anyway.
I'm just preparing you so that you don't anything questionable when they contact you.
Anyway, what happened to you saying that we wouldn't get it because 'we' could continue working?
You're getting worse, I haven't lost enough work or money for me to genuinely need this handout so will claim it for the reason I stated, if it is now going to be means tested (make up your mind) then I wont get it and wont care, this also answers your last stupid question.
I never said it was means tested (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588072099_rolleyes[1].gif).
I think you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by the coronavirus. If you think yours wasn't or isn't going to be just say 'no'; in true Grange Hill style.
I don't want to encourage you to lie or to claim something for the wrong reason.
Back to the same old drivel, (roll eyes) Iv lost around 10 customers and 1 commercial job so would this be classed as adversely effected ? plus if your business has to be adversely effected to be entitled to a claim then how isn't this being means tested ?
It’s all about stopping people panicking that’s all it was originally don’t worry you’ll get 3 months money this will pass then we will get back to normal,this is it’s not planned out like that now it’s going to be a lot longer than they first thought.
It being means tested didn’t even come into the equation,it was to stop immediate panicking.
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It's funny that over 75% said they never stopped. Yet a few days after lockdown only 35% said that they are still working. Two weeks later 50% said they were now working.
Some are telling porkies :D
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Who cares, does it matter?
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
I like many didn’t work after Boris’ confusing speech which was left open to interpretation. Admittedly I only had the one day off, but had it not been for the clear and concise speech from Nicola Sturgeon it might have been more.
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ive just had a look at my earnings for this time last year (to the day)...im roughly £200 down this year which is only a days work.....do i qualify for a grant? ;D......no i didnt think so.........
remember HMRC will contact YOU if your eligible NOT the other way round.........my business has not been affected at all.......any skipped jobs have been replaced by new regular jobs or add ons......
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There's going to be a lot of unclaimed grants.
Very admirable!
I’ll be claiming it and havent stopped.
Exactly, we are all going to have to pay for it so might as well have it.
That's not the reason for you claiming it though.
I reckon you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. You won't be asked do you want to claim it because your NI contributions are set to increase anyway.
I'm just preparing you so that you don't anything questionable when they contact you.
Anyway, what happened to you saying that we wouldn't get it because 'we' could continue working?
You're getting worse, I haven't lost enough work or money for me to genuinely need this handout so will claim it for the reason I stated, if it is now going to be means tested (make up your mind) then I wont get it and wont care, this also answers your last stupid question.
I never said it was means tested (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588072099_rolleyes[1].gif).
I think you will be asked if your business was adversely affected by the coronavirus. If you think yours wasn't or isn't going to be just say 'no'; in true Grange Hill style.
I don't want to encourage you to lie or to claim something for the wrong reason.
Back to the same old drivel, (roll eyes) Iv lost around 10 customers and 1 commercial job so would this be classed as adversely effected ? plus if your business has to be adversely effected to be entitled to a claim then how isn't this being means tested ?
I think you'll decide whether you have been adversely affected or not. You'll be the one applying for it.
I'm just letting you know how I think it'll happen. The fact that we'll pay it back in one way or another will be irrelevant to the government.
You could have never have stopped working but also been severely adversely affected by the lockdown.
A few have lost loads of commercial income but might not have stopped trading.
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ive just had a look at my earnings for this time last year (to the day)...im roughly £200 down this year which is only a days work.....do i qualify for a grant? ;D......no i didnt think so.........
remember HMRC will contact YOU if your eligible NOT the other way round.........my business has not been affected at all.......any skipped jobs have been replaced by new regular jobs or add ons......
They won't know whether you're eligible or not.
How will they know whether you're working or not or how much you've been doing.
They will contact you and ask you to confirm whether you think you qualify or not. You don't have to apply if you've not been adversely affected.
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Exactly.
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I’m 7.3% up on this time last year. I’ll still be claiming it.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588088008_FECA0D11-D7CC-4387-85BB-E20FC752D5C0.jpeg)
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I didnt stop but Ive lost work as a result of Covid.
Maybe theyre now saying they didnt stop because they prefered to keep their heads below the parapet at the time and not run the gauntlet of various characters slagging them off. It was quite vitriolic on here at one time or another.
Window cleaners don't set the mood for a country though. Fortunately.
The government have to take a lot of responsibility for that. They dallied, then panicked and then the country panicked.
I'll bet any money that 77% of window cleaners on here, at least, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech.
Off course they did, I can only think of a few on here that said they weren't working, maybe 10 or so, because of the slagging it just seemed that there were more.
No, you're wrong.
A lot more than a few, or maybe 10, didn't work in the days after Boris' speech. A lot more.
We are talking about guys on here Griff, not nationwide, I cant remember more than 10 or so stating that they had stopped working but if you think there are a lot more then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove, as per usual I wont hold my breath waiting. (roll eyes)
What?
Everything that you've asked me to prove or quote I have done. Then you go silent.
I'll tell you what, I'll bet you £100 for the James Styles fund that I can name 20 people on here that didn't work for the rest of the week after Boris' speech.
Are we on?
Stop being an idiot Griff, I plucked 10 or so out of the air but even 20 wouldn't be classed as a lot and certainly wouldn't lead to an assumption that a lot of people on here have changed their tune and are lying.
Griff isn't being an idiot - he seems to be quite right - there have been two posters who have put up a poll which shows that 33 didn't work straight after Boris's announcement. I didn't in the days after.
The problem is that the poll on this thread is not very good as it didn't give the option.
Off forum where I work I know by talking to window cleaners around my area that - with one dazmond like, money minded exception - everyone stopped for at least a couple of days and then started going back towards the end of the week the lockdown announcement was made or the week after.
Can I edit the poll?
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Either way you look at it 1 third of the forum tell porky pies ;D ;D ;D
Just a third ???
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
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After Boris's speech on the Monday evening I thought I should not be working. I did however have a few driveway and guttering jobs booked in. I rang those customers and they all wanted the work done and there would be no contact etc. Did those jobs and then on the Friday I started window cleaning again as I figured we had the perfect business in terms of self isolation, working outside and with a few tweaks re payment {no cash} I could work safely.
Only a small number of customers have said no thanks, the rest have been happier than usual to see me. I have chatted from a safe distance with the lonely ones. Delivered some essential items when things were really tricky in the first couple of weeks and feel I have done the best I could in the circumstances.
Now however, I feel a tad fed up. Getting bored with the nightmare that is food shopping with twats ignoring the two meter rule and one way signage.
Missed a few family birthdays. Can't visit family in Yorkshire who all live on their own. Can't ride the motorcycle. Cant's go out for a meal. Getting to be a royal pain in the ass.
No, I will not be claiming anything.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
im not claiming a penny as its a non issue for me.....this pandemic has had zero affect on my business and earnings......the government is already in deep financial trouble as it is.....i dont think it would be right to claim as ive not been adversely affected...........in fact theres an old boy who is quitting(he s 77 now!) that works near me...ive already picked up a couple of his jobs.......and i think theyll be plenty more over the next year or two...... :)
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My accountant who I think is right on top of his game has suggested that no checks will be made in the short term as the Government departments just don't have the time, although applying could get more complex. Medium term, within the next 12-24 months he reckons that things could well be re-examined and it's wiser to be on the safe side if considering a claim.
I have been negatively affected. Lost all my commercial contracts for example but I have still been able to work and I am healthy so in the grand scheme, I feel lucky.
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No I don't think it is possible to edit a poll once set. (for you or a mod) You could put up a new one.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
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I’ve decided I’m going back start of May as I think things are slowly calming & also for my own sanity ;D
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
I think Bungle is aware of that, what he’s saying is that it could tip you into the higher tax rate, meaning you could end up paying some or all of the grant back at 40% tax + 9% NI. In Scotland we pay 41% higher rate tax and the threshold is lower at £43 430, so more chance of paying higher rate tax on the grant up here.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
I think Bungle is aware of that, what he’s saying is that it could tip you into the higher tax rate, meaning you could end up paying some or all of the grant back at 40% tax + 9% NI. In Scotland we pay 41% higher rate tax and the threshold is lower at £43 430, so more chance of paying higher rate tax on the grant up here.
It’s a grant, you won’t pay it back.
60% of £7500 is a lot more than 0% of £7500, which is what you’ll get if you don’t apply/reply when your contacted.
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There's no grant anyway if your profits average over 50k.
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There's no grant anyway if your profits average over 50k.
But if your profits average £49k, you’ll qualify for the grant and likely be taken over the £50k tax bracket for this tax year (Assuming this years figures are the same as your average)
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There's no grant anyway if your profits average over 50k.
But if your profits average £49k, you’ll qualify for the grant and likely be taken over the £50k tax bracket for this tax year (Assuming this years figures are the same as your average)
True.
It's a balancing act that I wouldn't mind.
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Only working 1 hour a week as only have 6 jobs left out of 90plus a week normally. Would work more if I could. All my work are shops.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
I think Bungle is aware of that, what he’s saying is that it could tip you into the higher tax rate, meaning you could end up paying some or all of the grant back at 40% tax + 9% NI. In Scotland we pay 41% higher rate tax and the threshold is lower at £43 430, so more chance of paying higher rate tax on the grant up here.
It’s a grant, you won’t pay it back.
60% of £7500 is a lot more than 0% of £7500, which is what you’ll get if you don’t apply/reply when your contacted.
I didn’t say you pay the grant back deeege, what I said was you could end up paying 40% tax on some or all of it, so as an example you get £7500 and that makes your taxable profit for 20/21 55k you would pay £5000 @ 40% and £2500 @ 20% tax. If your taxable profit is over £57 500 you would be taxed at @ 40% for the whole grant. You also pay NI class 4 on the whole of the grant.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
I think Bungle is aware of that, what he’s saying is that it could tip you into the higher tax rate, meaning you could end up paying some or all of the grant back at 40% tax + 9% NI. In Scotland we pay 41% higher rate tax and the threshold is lower at £43 430, so more chance of paying higher rate tax on the grant up here.
It’s a grant, you won’t pay it back.
60% of £7500 is a lot more than 0% of £7500, which is what you’ll get if you don’t apply/reply when your contacted.
I didn’t say you pay the grant back deeege, what I said was you could end up paying 40% tax on some or all of it, so as an example you get £7500 and that makes your taxable profit for 20/21 55k you would pay £5000 @ 40% and £2500 @ 20% tax. If your taxable profit is over £57 500 you would be taxed at @ 40% for the whole grant. You also pay NI class 4 on the whole of the grant.
You wouldn't because you wouldn't get the grant (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588145232_grin[1].gif).
I know what you mean though.
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You would get the grant Griff if it was on £49,000. Because it would be based on the last three years average. It would just add to the 2020/21 tax year and if you had a good year and the grant took you to £57,000 you'd simply pay 40% and NI on the element in the higher tax band when you pay your tax for that tax year.
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Yeah, I missed the 55k with the grant (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588151173_embarrassed[1].gif).
It's all ifs and buts though.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
I think Bungle is aware of that, what he’s saying is that it could tip you into the higher tax rate, meaning you could end up paying some or all of the grant back at 40% tax + 9% NI. In Scotland we pay 41% higher rate tax and the threshold is lower at £43 430, so more chance of paying higher rate tax on the grant up here.
It’s a grant, you won’t pay it back.
60% of £7500 is a lot more than 0% of £7500, which is what you’ll get if you don’t apply/reply when your contacted.
I didn’t say you pay the grant back deeege, what I said was you could end up paying 40% tax on some or all of it, so as an example you get £7500 and that makes your taxable profit for 20/21 55k you would pay £5000 @ 40% and £2500 @ 20% tax. If your taxable profit is over £57 500 you would be taxed at @ 40% for the whole grant. You also pay NI class 4 on the whole of the grant.
Agree with all of that KS.
Bungles post implied that you could actually be worse off for accepting the grant, taking into a new tax bracket etc, and that isn’t the case.
I can’t think of a single instance where you will be worse off financially for accepting the grant, which was my point.
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@Deegee, what I’m trying to say is that if you go over the 50k with the grant any jobs you did to take you over the threshold you would have received 60% pay rather than 80%.
Example: 20% on a £20 job = £16 after tax.
40% on a £20 job = £12 after tax.
Some cleaners won’t be anywhere near £50k but lots on here will, so they reckon 😀
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@Deegee, what I’m trying to say is that if you go over the 50k with the grant any jobs you did to take you over the threshold you would have received 60% pay rather than 80%.
Example: 20% on a £20 job = £16 after tax.
40% on a £20 job = £12 after tax.
Some cleaners won’t be anywhere near £50k but lots on here will, so they reckon 😀
You’re forgetting NI Bungle, so a £20 job would be £10.20 in the hipper and not £12, although by the time the tax is due to be paid on the grant in January 22, I suspect it may be even less in the hipper due to a rise in tax and NI.
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So let me get this right. Some of you have been working all the way through (nothing wrong with that) but are still going to claim (no problem with that). Do you think this extra income may take you over the 40% threshold, would it be worth claiming if it did now take you over the 40% threshold, would it not mean that for the time you’ve worked and put in a claim you’ve actually worked for peanuts? Or are the ones who are saying they will claim and have still worked are not earning very much anyway?
I’m fairly sure you only pay 40% on the figure over the normal allowance of 50k not your whole income for the year.
Yep you beat me to it. The higher tax bracket only kicks in at £50k and effects earnings over that £50k.
I think Bungle is aware of that, what he’s saying is that it could tip you into the higher tax rate, meaning you could end up paying some or all of the grant back at 40% tax + 9% NI. In Scotland we pay 41% higher rate tax and the threshold is lower at £43 430, so more chance of paying higher rate tax on the grant up here.
It’s a grant, you won’t pay it back.
60% of £7500 is a lot more than 0% of £7500, which is what you’ll get if you don’t apply/reply when your contacted.
I didn’t say you pay the grant back deeege, what I said was you could end up paying 40% tax on some or all of it, so as an example you get £7500 and that makes your taxable profit for 20/21 55k you would pay £5000 @ 40% and £2500 @ 20% tax. If your taxable profit is over £57 500 you would be taxed at @ 40% for the whole grant. You also pay NI class 4 on the whole of the grant.
You wouldn't because you wouldn't get the grant (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1588145232_grin[1].gif).
I know what you mean though.
You would because the grant will be paid out based on your year 17/18/19 returns. Whatever the amount of grant you receive will then be included in your year 21 returns😉
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Depending on your average over 17/18/19.
But I agree, I missed the grant taking you up to 55k bit.