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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: escorttdi on April 15, 2020, 09:43:51 pm
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Been of since 23 March lockdown.
Was thinking bout gong back nxt Monday
Can you still claim in June your 80 percent and work at same time as most if not all payment will be via bank wich Hmrc will see so won’t they wonder what the payments are if your claiming 80 percent of wage
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Can you still claim in June your 80 percent and work at same time as most if not all payment will be via bank wich Hmrc will see so won’t they wonder what the payments are if your claiming 80 percent of wage
Yes, you can trade and still claim the 80%; the Chancellor said so. The only requirement to claim is that your earnings have been affected by the plague.
The tax office will be in touch, by letter (I believe). There's lots of scams going about so beware of your e-mail inbox.
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This a wind up?
Do you not declare your earnings?
It wasn't an easy post to decipher, but I reckon - and I could be wrong - that you got the wrong end of the stick.
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Been of since 23 March lockdown.
Was thinking bout gong back nxt Monday
Can you still claim in June your 80 percent and work at same time as most if not all payment will be via bank wich Hmrc will see so won’t they wonder what the payments are if your claiming 80 percent of wage
According to some on here you need to sit in your self-appointed man cave in a remote corner of Wales getting more and more drunk as each day passes, from morning til night, posting incoherent drivel whilst making veiled innuendos about moral responsibilities and ignoring Nicola Sturgeon.
Go to work and make the claim, you'll be fine.
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Taken from .GOV site-
Claim a grant if you’ve lost income
If you’re getting less work or no work because of coronavirus (COVID-19), you might be able to claim a grant through the coronavirus Self-employment Income Support Scheme.
The online service you’ll use to claim is not available yet. HMRC will aim to contact you by mid May 2020, and will make payments by early June 2020.
If you receive the grant you can continue to work or take on other employment including voluntary work.
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Taken from .GOV site-
Claim a grant if you’ve lost income
If you’re getting less work or no work because of coronavirus (COVID-19), you might be able to claim a grant through the coronavirus Self-employment Income Support Scheme.
The online service you’ll use to claim is not available yet. HMRC will aim to contact you by mid May 2020, and will make payments by early June 2020.
If you receive the grant you can continue to work or take on other employment including voluntary work.
‘You might be able to claim a grant’
Might...
We should be fine, let’s see.
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All should be fine. They want us to work to help the economy out. (taxable income)
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Work if you can,I would rather do that than claim, the customers have been great and very happy to see you, of course at a distance, the measures we have been using for the past 4 weeks won’t change when the lockdown is over, these measures will be in for a long time, you might as well crack on now
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you don't claim it . they contact you telling you how much you will receive. this you put in your self assessment as an income. that's my understanding
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if you can claim the grant that's ok, is it interest free. better than getting a bank loan, ill look into this grant.
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What happened in those two and a half minutes, johnny?
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What happened in those two and a half minutes, johnny?
😂😂
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you don't claim it . they contact you telling you how much you will receive. this you put in your self assessment as an income. that's my understanding
They will contact you, there will be some kind of form where you will have to tell them your work has been affected due to Coronavirus, you will also be required to tell them your profits for last 3 years, 17/18/19 returns, from which they will calculate the amount you will be entitled to. You will pay tax and NI on any payment given which will go on your 20/21 return, which will then be paid January 22.
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you don't claim it . they contact you telling you how much you will receive. this you put in your self assessment as an income. that's my understanding
They will contact you, there will be some kind of form where you will have to tell them your work has been affected due to Coronavirus, you will also be required to tell them your profits for last 3 years, 17/18/19 returns, from which they will calculate the amount you will be entitled to. You will pay tax and NI on any payment given which will go on your 20/21 return, which will then be paid January 22.
Is this fact or opinion?
They know your profits already
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I think it says that you need to confirm whether you've been adversely affected?
It might be a simple 'yes' or 'no'. I can't see it being too complicated and a risk based approach suggests this, for the likes of us.
That's just my opinion though.
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So even if like me you are doing about 50-60%,at the moment, as I’m just choosing to do bacs customers, you can still claim?
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you don't claim it . they contact you telling you how much you will receive. this you put in your self assessment as an income. that's my understanding
They will contact you, there will be some kind of form where you will have to tell them your work has been affected due to Coronavirus, you will also be required to tell them your profits for last 3 years, 17/18/19 returns, from which they will calculate the amount you will be entitled to. You will pay tax and NI on any payment given which will go on your 20/21 return, which will then be paid January 22.
Is this fact or opinion?
They know your profits already
This is what my accountant is intimating, but of course a bit of guess work will be involved.
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So even if like me you are doing about 50-60%,at the moment, as I’m just choosing to do bacs customers, you can still claim?
Yes, your work has been affected in some way, so you can claim.
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So even if like me you are doing about 50-60%,at the moment, as I’m just choosing to do bacs customers, you can still claim?
Yes.
I don't think you'll need to claim. They'll contact you, you tell them you've been adversely affected and they should pay up.
You then send me £50.
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as the man from delmonte says YES everyones going to say YES who in there right mind will say no. Mind you , you will have to have a few months showing there payment as your main payment for the se months . its a good job they cant see in your bank account. Oh yes they can
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" adversely affected" very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings. Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
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" adversely affected" very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings. Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
The self employed support scheme only covers your self employed income.
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" adversely affected" very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings. Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
The self employed support scheme only covers your self employed income.
I hear what your saying but at the end of the day i will have to supplement my pensions lost interest through using more of my "self employed income" to make it up. im being facetious, i used to work in the benefits office and i know theres no grey area in their eyes its black or white. but here in the real world , it clearly has affected my income adversely.
Knocking my price increase on the head will absolutely mean i earn less in this tax year than i would had it not been for the virus.
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" adversely affected" very open to interpretation.
I was about 25% of the way through putting my prices up and had to knock it on the head when lockdown came. So in theory, i might not lose much in the way of customer numbers (whos knows, i might/might not) but my income will definetely be down on what it should be although could in theory match or surpass the 19-20 tax year, Also, the bank has obliterated the interest rate, i don't have a pension, instead i took advise 16 years ago and put money into an isa instead. I've gone from 1.4% to 0,25% which is purely down to the coranavirus and will have a big impact upon my nestegg for retirement. It also means i cant get help in the way of universal credit because my pension savings are counted as normal savings. Will the above count as "adversely affected"? who knows , it does in my book but not in the traditional way of losing customers. Ill wait till i see the smallprint before counting on any help, and keep working safely in the meantime.
The self employed support scheme only covers your self employed income.
I hear what your saying but at the end of the day i will have to supplement my pensions lost interest through using more of my "self employed income" to make it up. im being facetious, i used to work in the benefits office and i know theres no grey area in their eyes its black or white. but here in the real world , it clearly has affected my income adversely.
Knocking my price increase on the head will absolutely mean i earn less in this tax year than i would had it not been for the virus.
Knocking your price increase will have affected your income. Lost interest on your pension wouldn’t.
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
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if you can claim the grant that's ok, is it interest free. better than getting a bank loan, ill look into this grant.
Of course its interest free , its a grant not a loan , you do not have to pay it back .
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong, you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587110994_4477.jpg)
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong, you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587110994_4477.jpg)
People are panicking anyway.
Why don't you put your neck on the line and tell us what you think will happen with the grant?
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong, you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587110994_4477.jpg)
People are panicking anyway.
Why don't you put your neck on the line and tell us what you think will happen with the grant?
As I'm fortunate enough to still be able to work the honest truth is I'm not overly concerned, I'm hoping and I suspect the government will do right by the guys/voters who need it but I certainly wouldn't bet my house on it.
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
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Nah. He used to say “if it’s there, I will give you the money myself “ meaning not bloody likely.
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
What could go wrong, you're now covered by Griff's reputation and him giving you the money should he be wrong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587110994_4477.jpg)
People are panicking anyway.
Why don't you put your neck on the line and tell us what you think will happen with the grant?
As I'm fortunate enough to still be able to work the honest truth is I'm not overly concerned, I'm hoping and I suspect the government will do right by the guys/voters who need it but I certainly wouldn't bet my house on it.
Hoping and suspecting?
It's not about who needs it. This is why people are panicking. The government haven't got the time to assess whether everyone needs it.
I'm saying what the government are saying and people are panicking because others are saying what the government are not saying.
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The government are facing the biggest crisis for over 70 years and they are not that concerned about window cleaners.
Stop worrying, they will pay up. I'll stake my reputation on that.
As Les Dennis nearly said, if it's not there, I'll give you the money myself.
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Nah. He used to say “if it’s there, I will give you the money myself “ meaning not bloody likely.
It's the same principle.
If the reneging of the grant is there, I'll give you the money myself.
Are the government going to risk losing so many millions of voters?