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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: simon w on April 11, 2020, 11:28:27 am
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Sorry for another gutter vac thread I was wondering if any of you have recently purchased the latest Sky Vac Atom package and do you have any feed back on it's pros and cons, is it up to the task ETC? I am thinking about getting the seven pole package and maybe asking if I can upgrade to the recordable camera set up. This will mostly be used on domestic but also block management flats and housing association work. At a push do you think adding an extra pole section to the 34 ft is possible or is that already working at it's maximum height for the vac/machine?
I like the idea of the small size of the machine and not having to remove other equipment to accommodate the larger machines in their range.
Would be great to hear from someone who has the latest Atom package and whether it's worth the investment.
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Hello Simon
I Don’t have an atom
Thinking of getting one as you
This YouTube video gave me a better
Opinion of It
Also spinaclean do a training day for atom as well as sell it
Unfortunately not at the moment
I’m sure someone on here has one
As I asked this question a while back
Hope you get some answers
Stay well
Fella 👍
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpNOHW50Hs
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Hello Simon
I Don’t have an atom
Thinking of getting one as you
This YouTube video gave me a better
Opinion of It
Also spinaclean do a training day for atom as well as sell it
Unfortunately not at the moment
I’m sure someone on here has one
As I asked this question a while back
Hope you get some answers
Stay well
Fella 👍
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpNOHW50Hs
Thanks Lee I'd already watched all the vids I could find on the net. Just wondering if there were any happy users of this machine/set up on CIU who could point out both it's pro's and cons
BTW do you think that video is staged? already had the debris vac'd out a small organic bung placed in the down pipe fill the length of guttering up with water from a wfp turn camera on place gutter pole in down pipe and Voila.............. ;)
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I know what you mean Simon
There are a few window cleaner you tubers that seem to plug certain equipment
Wagga started off modifying equipment that I thought was alright to start with 🤔
Brushes
Dangling pole tubing outside of pole
etc
Now plugging other equipment
Also guy that had/has that window cleaning mag
Squeaky seems legit still
Just my opinion
What do I know
😁
If you buy an Atom Simon
You’ll have to take a polygraph test
So we know your not lying 🤥
Mind you years ago, I didn’t quite believe you could clean windows with a wfp system
Some people can’t 😳
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Hello Simon
I Don’t have an atom
Thinking of getting one as you
This YouTube video gave me a better
Opinion of It
Also spinaclean do a training day for atom as well as sell it
Unfortunately not at the moment
I’m sure someone on here has one
As I asked this question a while back
Hope you get some answers
Stay well
Fella 👍
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpNOHW50Hs
Thanks Lee I'd already watched all the vids I could find on the net. Just wondering if there were any happy users of this machine/set up on CIU who could point out both it's pro's and cons
BTW do you think that video is staged? already had the debris vac'd out a small organic bung placed in the down pipe fill the length of guttering up with water from a wfp turn camera on place gutter pole in down pipe and Voila.............. ;)
I don’t have the atom but the skyvac interceptor and no there videos aren’t staged I haven’t had to use a ladder very often , the atom is a good entry level vac and Ime 100% sure it would do any domestic job you are likely to come up against , we do tens of thousands of meters of gutters every year mainly commercial but it’s not just the vac but knowing how to use it it’s not just a case of sticking the end tool in the gutter but understanding how ti get different types of things out of a gutter with minimal effort
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Thanks Splash 👍
Would go on the spinaclean day course if I was to purchase an Atom
How to use and also how to price £?
Stay well 🐣🏃🦠
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Thanks Splash 👍
Would go on the spinaclean day course if I was to purchase an Atom
How to use and also how to price £?
Stay well 🐣🏃🦠
I guess priced differ all over the country a typical 3 bed modern semi is £65 that’s the cheapest we will do minimum price , commercial jobs some are many thousands of pounds , we regularly do 8-15 houses a day depending on size so it’s a good earner .
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guess priced differ all over the country a typical 3 bed modern semi is £65 that’s the cheapest we will do minimum price
I’m in Essex I think that’s a fair price
Splash
And what I was thinking £20 a run
So semi detached
3 sides of guttering
Maybe offering an inspection on say property mentioned £15
Which would be knocked off price
So £65 job
£50 to pay if excepted in say 60 days 🤔
So Splash, a 3 bed semi half an hour
To clear gutters?
Thanks
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guess priced differ all over the country a typical 3 bed modern semi is £65 that’s the cheapest we will do minimum price
I’m in Essex I think that’s a fair price
Splash
And what I was thinking £20 a run
So semi detached
3 sides of guttering
Maybe offering an inspection on say property mentioned £15
Which would be knocked off price
So £65 job
£50 to pay if excepted in say 60 days 🤔
So Splash, a 3 bed semi half an hour
To clear gutters?
Thanks
We have a minimum charge of £65 for any gutter work , time for a 3 bed semi 20 muinits max unless encountering problems .
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I purchased one early March. Seven pole as thought better to have them available.
It’s a neat set up. Fits in my combo van along with a ladder.
Had one job that had clumps of grass and mesh grown together so had to hop up and get it out.
Would recommend it. Don’t assume you will never get up a ladder though.
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I purchased one early March. Seven pole as thought better to have them available.
It’s a neat set up. Fits in my combo van along with a ladder.
Had one job that had clumps of grass and mesh grown together so had to hop up and get it out.
Would recommend it. Don’t assume you will never get up a ladder though.
That’s why it’s important to do a survey before quoting if it’s going to be a problem job the price needs to be higher . Once you have had your fingers burnt a couple of times you soon learn 😂😂😂
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Is there two different types of pole they do? seems to be a tapered skyvac pole and what they are calling Elite pole with a clamp?
Which ones are you using chaps and what's best?
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Is there two different types of pole they do? seems to be a tapered skyvac pole and what they are calling Elite pole with a clamp?
Which ones are you using chaps and what's best?
The elite poles with the clamps are very good and the suction release pole bottom section is very useful,but they are dearer than taper fit poles
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How good are the taper poles and are the elite poles worth the extra money? I'm about to order the atom with seven poles and the recordable camera
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How good are the taper poles and are the elite poles worth the extra money? I'm about to order the atom with seven poles and the recordable camera
I have the elite poles as that’s what came with my vac as standard , I haven’t used Sky vacs taper fit poles but assume they would be very similar to any other taper fit poles , I had carbon fibre tubes taper fit poles for over 10 years and they were brilliant poles but could stick on occasions, bit of silicon spray before use will help prevent this ,or a bit of insulation tape when the two sections are put together on the smaller section tk stop it being pushed in to tight , if that makes sense .
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Just checked out the price difference the elite poles are about £138 dearer when paying over £800 for poles I would pay the extra £138 , also as a side point the half length pole is well worth having we find sometimes a full pole is to long and without it it’s to short we use it a lot .
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I've just put an order through for the Atom with seven poles plus the recordable camera and marketing materials. I'm guessing this won't be the elite pole set but their staff are going to give me a call today to go through it.
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Rob is very helpful and always phones back quickly , very good firm to deal with 👍
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Rob is very helpful and always phones back quickly , very good firm to deal with 👍
Been dealing with a Mark and the Elite poles aren't compatible with the Atom so modular it is then 8)
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Really convenient to have and much easier than to use a ladder. Tremendous little package. How powerful it was, I was surprised. At one point the suction was just too strong at the gutter.
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Hello Simon
I Don’t have an atom
Thinking of getting one as you
This YouTube video gave me a better
Opinion of It
Also spinaclean do a training day for atom as well as sell it
Unfortunately not at the moment
I’m sure someone on here has one
As I asked this question a while back
Hope you get some answers
Stay well
Fella 👍
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpNOHW50Hs
Thanks Lee I'd already watched all the vids I could find on the net. Just wondering if there were any happy users of this machine/set up on CIU who could point out both it's pro's and cons
BTW do you think that video is staged? already had the debris vac'd out a small organic bung placed in the down pipe fill the length of guttering up with water from a wfp turn camera on place gutter pole in down pipe and Voila.............. ;)
Im convinced that vid is staged , hardly anything else in the gutter .
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I’m another one considering getting this gutter vac.The only thing that’s holding me back is that,from my experience,it’s not uncommon for there to be stretches of tiles that have dropped so much that you can barely get your fingers in the gutter.Is it literally just a case of getting the ladders out in this case?Or are there attachments that can deal with situations like this?Cheers.
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I’m another one considering getting this gutter vac.The only thing that’s holding me back is that,from my experience,it’s not uncommon for there to be stretches of tiles that have dropped so much that you can barely get your fingers in the gutter.Is it literally just a case of getting the ladders out in this case?Or are there attachments that can deal with situations like this?Cheers.
From my experience there are certain instances where no matter what vaccum you have a ladder will be needed. Sometimes tiles are down too far like you said and while there is an attachment for this sometimes it will not lift out sods as tile just prevents you from actually lifting it. We have just finished a stretch of 100 houses over last few weeks and at a lot of the valleys sods literally grow and catch around the leadwork in valley and grow around nail fittings on gutters and only way is to remove them via getting up there.
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I’m another one considering getting this gutter vac.The only thing that’s holding me back is that,from my experience,it’s not uncommon for there to be stretches of tiles that have dropped so much that you can barely get your fingers in the gutter.Is it literally just a case of getting the ladders out in this case?Or are there attachments that can deal with situations like this?Cheers.
From my experience there are certain instances where no matter what vaccum you have a ladder will be needed. Sometimes tiles are down too far like you said and while there is an attachment for this sometimes it will not lift out sods as tile just prevents you from actually lifting it. We have just finished a stretch of 100 houses over last few weeks and at a lot of the valleys sods literally grow and catch around the leadwork in valley and grow around nail fittings on gutters and only way is to remove them via getting up there.
I'm not sure of the price of the vaccum you have quoted but we use a nilfisk Alto maxi 2 and the suction from it is incredible and it's available around the £500 mark . Much less the sky vacs etc .
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I’ve also found that the majority of the gutter vac jobs I’ve had I’ve nearly always had to get up clear some by hand,very rarely can you just vac the lot it’s a ball ache getting it all out only to find it’s easier to clear most by hand.
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I use the original gutter sucker which was one that spinaclean sold a few years ago, (great company to deal with) maybe under a different name i think. Anyway its been a great machine, has 3 motors on it and moves most debris out of the gutters.
I use carbon fibre tapered poles, really light and strong, just got to keep them clean or they will potential grip tight, rinse them off regularly.
When i change this one i might get a smaller container as it does take up a lot of space in the van, it holds a lot so gets proper heavy when its wet stuff thats going in, you wont have that issue with the atom.
Not sure about those prices, maybe London prices and time taken to clear a semi detached (unless two people maybe) as it takes about 10 mins setting it up and putting it away.. still a good earner though if you can get a regular annual clean going from enough customers... start with existing customers and work out from there, referrals etc. worked for me :)
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G force systems.
Best poles on the market.
Made in uk.
Great company to deal with.
Worth a look.
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I’ve also found that the majority of the gutter vac jobs I’ve had I’ve nearly always had to get up clear some by hand,very rarely can you just vac the lot it’s a ball ache getting it all out only to find it’s easier to clear most by hand.
If you are having to use ladders that often you are doing something wrong , a good survey before quoting will reveal any problems, we get the ladders off in maybe 1 in 20 jobs worst case scenario and we do several hundred jobs a year