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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slacky on April 09, 2020, 04:40:29 pm
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A new poll to see if there had been any change in the group’s opinion on working in the current climate.
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No - no change to the overall message STAY AT HOME
Darran
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No - no change to the overall message STAY AT HOME
Darran
That's what people are doing, Daz, when they're not working from home because they can't and have to travel to work.
They're staying at home.
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Saw 3 lots of window cleaners in my area today-
1. Sheepishly opened his backdoor , quickly did a front only then looking at the floor returned to his van.
2. A van with 3 tradders not giving a toss all sat next to each other going from job to job
3. 2 tradders standing about 30cm away from an old man customer
Apart number 1 , it’s down right disgraceful
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I'm working this week.
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Not stopped still working
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Never stopped. I followed the government guildlines in full and not just the straplines
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not me
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No - no change to the overall message STAY AT HOME
Darran
That's what people are doing, Daz, when they're not working from home because they can't and have to travel to work.
They're staying at home.
There’s a difference isn’t there - can’t work from home so you have to travel to work, I take that as a destination - not travel around all day visiting upto 20 different houses washing windows -
I find it strange that all of a sudden everyone on this board works rural, never sees a soul, never work or park on a public pavement - that’s even more miraculous considering all the kids are home and the weather is good
Darran
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I’m working , did a nice church today , chased a few pheasants for a bit of fun
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Haven't lost a day or any profit since this all began
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There’s a difference isn’t there - can’t work from home so you have to travel to work, I take that as a destination - not travel around all day visiting upto 20 different houses washing windows -
Well that's the posties knackered then. ;D
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There’s a difference isn’t there - can’t work from home so you have to travel to work, I take that as a destination - not travel around all day visiting upto 20 different houses washing windows -
Well that's the posties knackered then. ;D
Key workers.
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Key workers.
Still stalking my posts, Griff.
Yodel and Amazon delivery drivers must be key workers too.
Wor Little Un loves it when they drop off a new playstation game. ;D
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Key workers.
Still stalking my posts, Griff.
Yodel and Amazon delivery drivers must be key workers too.
Wor Little Un loves it when they drop off a new playstation game. ;D
I thought she had an Xbox (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1586452811_grin[1].gif).
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I thought she had an Xbox (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1586452811_grin[1].gif).
Still seeking my attention, Griff. :'(
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Yodel and Amazon are key workers too.
Back on topic, I'm contemplating doing a bit next week. I think I'm developing agoraphobia.
But I've never even been to the Taj Mahal.
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No - no change to the overall message STAY AT HOME
Darran
That's what people are doing, Daz, when they're not working from home because they can't and have to travel to work.
They're staying at home.
There’s a difference isn’t there - can’t work from home so you have to travel to work, I take that as a destination - not travel around all day visiting upto 20 different houses washing windows -
I find it strange that all of a sudden everyone on this board works rural, never sees a soul, never work or park on a public pavement - that’s even more miraculous considering all the kids are home and the weather is good
Darran
ive cleaned up to 24 houses in a day some days as most work has been on one large estate this week(4 days work)...... ;D....weather has been great.customers happy to see me......
cleaning outside windows is not like working on the front line looking after very sick coronavirus patients........its totally low risk for both me and my customers.......no tea/coffee/food off customers,keep your distance,BACS and contactless payments,NO inside work,wash hands frequently....thats it.....
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Thank you Daz...
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Just to add...
When this had died down, or even before, I have noted customers who have mentioned 'their family are nurses' and massively under pressure... I will be offering free cleans for them.
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No, still enjoying the paid holiday with my family.👍
Actually been catching up on a few diy jobs around the house last couple of days- not used to this working malarkey mind!!🤣
Will continue to do the same for as long as is required.👌
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No, still enjoying the paid holiday with my family.👍
Actually been catching up on a few diy jobs around the house last couple of days- not used to this working malarkey mind!!🤣
Will continue to do the same for as long as is required.👌
my missus has been off for nearly 3 weeks now and shes managed to sort the garden out,tidy the garage and decorate the kitchen as well as cleaning the whole house from top to bottom....... :D.......saves me a job! 8)
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Over the last 3 weeks I’ve seen more and more WCs working wait for about 3-4 weeks time when they say certain trades-workers won’t be getting 12 weeks pay now as outside workers can return to work 😂,be window cleaners everywhere.
How can it be ok for a window cleaner to sit on his arse at home and get paid and a bin man be out working for his living,I think that just about tells you it’s ok to be out working when council-government workers still are.
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No, still enjoying the paid holiday with my family.👍
Actually been catching up on a few diy jobs around the house last couple of days- not used to this working malarkey mind!!🤣
Will continue to do the same for as long as is required.👌
my missus has been off for nearly 3 weeks now and shes managed to sort the garden out,tidy the garage and decorate the kitchen as well as cleaning the whole house from top to bottom....... :D.......saves me a job! 8)
You've got it made Daz, she loves a bit in-between as well doesn't she?
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another full day every customer offered the chance to skip. only 2 skipped out of 20. just texting for tomorrow no skips yet. had 1 miss today. said do them this time then leave it till all this is over. i said Probally best to miss this time. got loads to do any way so done me a favour. The funny thing she was leaning over the fence talking to her neibour. The neibour had his done. Shes a bit of a pain any way so most likely ill dump. Just to clarify not dumping because she skipped because of the virus. shes skipped before and always been hard to get payment. Always pays eventually but can never catch her in and wont pay by bacs.
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Over the last 3 weeks I’ve seen more and more WCs working wait for about 3-4 weeks time when they say certain trades-workers won’t be getting 12 weeks pay now as outside workers can return to work 😂,be window cleaners everywhere.
How can it be ok for a window cleaner to sit on his arse at home and get paid and a bin man be out working for his living,I think that just about tells you it’s ok to be out working when council-government workers still are.
Binmen are key workers; good on them. I thanked ours today.
Window cleaners are not key workers.
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Out working as normal.
Anyone received a letter from HMRC yet saying we are entitled to 80%?
I still don’t think we are entitled to it. I’ll be working till told otherwise.
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Out working as normal.
Anyone received a letter from HMRC yet saying we are entitled to 80%?
I still don’t think we are entitled to it. I’ll be working till told otherwise.
Nope, but got my letter from Borris. His way of spreading his germs to the whole country ;D
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Out working as normal.
Anyone received a letter from HMRC yet saying we are entitled to 80%?
I still don’t think we are entitled to it. I’ll be working till told otherwise.
Nope, but got my letter from Borris. His way of spreading his germs to the whole country ;D
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I wonder how many people have got corona from his letters. Quite ironic really.
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Ffs you guys that are staying at home do you actually watch tv while your at home you know the bits where they state window cleaner s are allowed to work omg ,
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Out working as normal.
Anyone received a letter from HMRC yet saying we are entitled to 80%?
I still don’t think we are entitled to it. I’ll be working till told otherwise.
We will be, Jonny.
Unless things change dramatically in the meantime.
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Ffs you guys that are staying at home do you actually watch tv while your at home you know the bits where they state window cleaner s are allowed to work omg ,
And window cleaners are allowed to refrain from work. And some window cleaners cannot work.
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No - no change to the overall message STAY AT HOME
Darran
That's what people are doing, Daz, when they're not working from home because they can't and have to travel to work.
They're staying at home.
There’s a difference isn’t there - can’t work from home so you have to travel to work, I take that as a destination - not travel around all day visiting upto 20 different houses washing windows -
I find it strange that all of a sudden everyone on this board works rural, never sees a soul, never work or park on a public pavement - that’s even more miraculous considering all the kids are home and the weather is good
Darran
Hi Darren. I rarely see customers in my working day, until the last couple of week.
I have texted everybody saying I’m well will keep social distancing and asked them to text me back if the want me to call. 75% have welcomed me. In a predominantly lonely job, I never felt so loved as I have this week with so many working from home
I respect anyone who chooses to stay at home, but I’ve enjoyed being back on the glass and working safely and within government guidelines
Stay safe.
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All you guys that are expecting to get any money of government in june seem to be 100% certain you are getting it the way i look at it is the self employed that will get it will be people that cant work ie hair dressers ,plasterers ,painter and decorators ect but we have been told we can work so why would they give us any money 😳
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All you guys that are expecting to get any money of government in june seem to be 100% certain you are getting it the way i look at it is the self employed that will get it will be people that cant work ie hair dressers ,plasterers ,painter and decorators ect but we have been told we can work so why would they give us any money 😳
Simply put, we still loose money due to the virus. How many have lost commercial work! Ive had to postpone several larger jobs as well due to not being able to get deliveries of products and the list goes on.
Yes we may still be able to work but not all are able to work as we would minus the virus
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All you guys that are expecting to get any money of government in june seem to be 100% certain you are getting it the way i look at it is the self employed that will get it will be people that cant work ie hair dressers ,plasterers ,painter and decorators ect but we have been told we can work so why would they give us any money 😳
I'm not 100% certain that I'll get it. If I don't get it, I don't get it.
But I'm fairly certain that the government won't differentiate between all the different types of the self employed.
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Ive worked ever since this has started ,and to be honest I always knew I had a great customer base but Ive been really amazed at the reaction since all this began. I always give the customer a choice to skip if they wish ,but in the last nearly three weeks now just had two who wanted to.
People have given me bottles of wine ,cans of beer and I just haven't been able to get round all my customers as picked up new houses who are not normally in, and extra work ,gutter cleaning ,cons roofs
Even the reaction from general public has been very good ,even though must admit it didn't feel right at the beginning. Also chatted with a couple of bobbies on the beat today and they had no problem what so ever with me working .
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Just got back from Tesco’s S***t pit in there id rather be working it’s safer at the moment.
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I used to have loads of pubs and clubs until they introduced non smoking and started losing them to closing down now i only have a couple of pubs and about dozen or so shops which are closed so not realy lost alot to the virus, all i have done is slowed my work down just enough to pay bills not realy bothered about extra at mo till this is all over and back to normal
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All you guys that are expecting to get any money of government in june seem to be 100% certain you are getting it the way i look at it is the self employed that will get it will be people that cant work ie hair dressers ,plasterers ,painter and decorators ect but we have been told we can work so why would they give us any money 😳
I'm not 100% certain that I'll get it. If I don't get it, I don't get it.
But I'm fairly certain that the government won't differentiate between all the different types of the self employed.
They already have done.
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Just got back from Tesco’s S***t pit in there id rather be working it’s safer at the moment.
It's not either or though, is it?
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All you guys that are expecting to get any money of government in june seem to be 100% certain you are getting it the way i look at it is the self employed that will get it will be people that cant work ie hair dressers ,plasterers ,painter and decorators ect but we have been told we can work so why would they give us any money 😳
I'm not 100% certain that I'll get it. If I don't get it, I don't get it.
But I'm fairly certain that the government won't differentiate between all the different types of the self employed.
They already have done.
All of them? I disagree.
Some window cleaners will be treated the same as hairdressers and some window cleaners will be treated differently to other window cleaners.
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Just got back from Tesco’s S***t pit in there id rather be working it’s safer at the moment.
The reason its safer at the moment is because everyone is staying in, so you see no one and you feel safe. But you are in your own way just going about potentially or otherwise spreading it. People do not have a luxury of not eating or getting neccesities so they do actually have to run the gauntlet of getting some stuff and take a chance, its unavoidable. No one forced you to go the supermarket, you're adding to the risk. Whats wrong with you that you don't understand that ? You are the actual S***t pit you describe. Just go to work and leave the supermarkets alone.
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FAQ 6. How can I find out if my work is essential or not?
The government is not saying only people doing “essential” work can go to work. Anyone who cannot work from home can still go to work.
Separately, there is a list of critical workers who can still take their children to school or childcare. Provision has been prioritised for these workers.
Every worker – whether critical or not – should work from home if they can but may otherwise travel to work.
We have also asked certain businesses where people gather, such as pubs and most shops, to close. Separate guidance has been published on this.
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FAQ 5. I’m not a critical worker and I can’t work from home. What should I do?
If you cannot work from home then you can still travel to work. This is consistent with the Chief Medical Officer’s advice.
Critical workers are those who can still take their children to school or childcare. This critical worker definition does not affect whether or not you can travel to work – if you are not a critical worker, you may still travel to work provided you cannot work from home.
Anyone who has symptoms or is in a household where someone has symptoms should not go to work and should self-isolate.
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Are we really still having to explain this stuff?
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FAQ 4. Should I stay at home or go to work?
You may travel for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home.
Certain jobs require people to travel to their place of work – for instance if they operate machinery, work in construction or manufacturing, or are delivering front line services such as train and bus drivers.
Employers and employees should discuss their working arrangements, and employers should take every possible step to facilitate their employees working from home, including providing suitable IT and equipment to enable remote working.
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From the Government instructions.
4. Going to work
As set out in the section on staying at home, you can travel for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home.
With the exception of the organisations covered above in the section on closing certain businesses and venues, the government has not required any other businesses to close – indeed it is important for business to carry on.
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Are we really still having to explain this stuff?
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I know, Tosh - you have posted a prettier version of FAQ 6 from the government website - it's like some on here have nailed their colours to the mast and they wilfully keep their blinkers on with no reference to government direction.
Mind you - thick coppers do it too.
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Just got back from Tesco’s S***t pit in there id rather be working it’s safer at the moment.
The reason its safer at the moment is because everyone is staying in, so you see no one and you feel safe. But you are in your own way just going about potentially or otherwise spreading it. People do not have a luxury of not eating or getting neccesities so they do actually have to run the gauntlet of getting some stuff and take a chance, its unavoidable. No one forced you to go the supermarket, you're adding to the risk. Whats wrong with you that you don't understand that ? You are the actual S***t pit you describe. Just go to work and leave the supermarkets alone.
At work, i control my environment, my work space and therefore all is safe.
However, we all need to buy food and Im sure we all see everyone abiding by the 2m distance out side queuing up. However, once they go inside the supermarket it becomes a different ball game and to be honest, the staff can be the worse culprits and certainly not 2m away from each other. However, once back at the van I can decontaminate myself and all my packaged goods before taking them into my save environment at home.
In addition to those scares of shopping, you also get the baffoons who go into a supermarket, lick their hands and wipe all the produce down like that
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I am fully aware that I am allowed to work.
I "CHOOSE" not to work.
1. I don't want Covid-19.
2. Wife has chronic asthma so can't risk bringing it back home to her.
3. I can afford to stay off with or without the 80% grant.
4. I'm enjoying the time off.
5. I take full responsibility for the health and wellbeing of my family, prefer to use my own judgement and utilise that to take the most appropriate course of action for me and my family.
👍👍👍
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You fancy putting your money where your mouth is (so to speak) and produce a RAMS for working amongst the public in a pandemic ?
FAQ 6. How can I find out if my work is essential or not?
The government is not saying only people doing “essential” work can go to work. Anyone who cannot work from home can still go to work.
Separately, there is a list of critical workers who can still take their children to school or childcare. Provision has been prioritised for these workers.
Every worker – whether critical or not – should work from home if they can but may otherwise travel to work.
We have also asked certain businesses where people gather, such as pubs and most shops, to close. Separate guidance has been published on this.
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Just got back from Tesco’s S***t pit in there id rather be working it’s safer at the moment.
The reason its safer at the moment is because everyone is staying in, so you see no one and you feel safe. But you are in your own way just going about potentially or otherwise spreading it. People do not have a luxury of not eating or getting neccesities so they do actually have to run the gauntlet of getting some stuff and take a chance, its unavoidable. No one forced you to go the supermarket, you're adding to the risk. Whats wrong with you that you don't understand that ? You are the actual S***t pit you describe. Just go to work and leave the supermarkets alone.
At work,
I got this far mate, then i deleted the rest of your response. No idea what you said, and i aint gonna look. You are a complete loon. Raving.
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What's reignited this?
Shopping, reasonably, is regarded as an essential journey. The forum has moved on from essential work now, hasn't it?
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Addressing Clean Clear and this request of me.
"You fancy putting your money where your mouth is (so to speak) and produce a RAMS for working amongst the public in a pandemic ?"
Why would I do that? I refer you to the government guidelines which suffice.
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It's safer to be anywhere than a supermarket right now. You may have to queue keeping a 2m distance outside but inside the plan goes to pot, especially queueing to pay as people forget and naturally bunch up. I have stopped using supermarkets and use the local shops to me as everyone knows each other in our village and everyone has a greater respect for the 2m rule at all times thus making it a safer environment than a supermarket.
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Addressing Clean Clear and this request of me.
"You fancy putting your money where your mouth is (so to speak) and produce a RAMS for working amongst the public in a pandemic ?"
Why would I do that? I refer you to the government guidelines which suffice.
You took it upon yourself to add this : The government is not saying only people doing “essential” work can go to work. Anyone who cannot work from home can still go to work.
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So explain more................ Or do you think you should NOT have added that ?
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Shopping, reasonably, is regarded as an essential journey.
Maybe, maybe not. A top copper has threatened to start checking supermarket baskets.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-uk-police-chief-threatened-to-check-shopping-trolleys-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
Is that beer really necessary? And that chocolate? Do you really need flavoured water? There's water in the tap.
Hopefully they'll produce a list of approved items that constitute 'essential shopping items'.
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It's safer to be anywhere than a supermarket right now. You may have to queue keeping a 2m distance outside but inside the plan goes to pot, especially queueing to pay as people forget and naturally bunch up. I have stopped using supermarkets and use the local shops to me as everyone knows each other in our village and everyone has a greater respect for the 2m rule at all times thus making it a safer environment then a supermarket.
I think that is a good point. After all you can get all you need to have a balanced diet at most corner shops. So anyone going to a large supermarket is obviously not following the spirit of government guidelines.
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Just got back from Tesco’s S***t pit in there id rather be working it’s safer at the moment.
The reason its safer at the moment is because everyone is staying in, so you see no one and you feel safe. But you are in your own way just going about potentially or otherwise spreading it. People do not have a luxury of not eating or getting neccesities so they do actually have to run the gauntlet of getting some stuff and take a chance, its unavoidable. No one forced you to go the supermarket, you're adding to the risk. Whats wrong with you that you don't understand that ? You are the actual S***t pit you describe. Just go to work and leave the supermarkets alone.
Everyone is staying in are they where do you live maybe you don’t see many people but if you travel about you’ll see that people are not listening to what the government are saying,when I’ve kept myself to myself at work I go home and stay home I’ve a very big garden to enjoy.
A lot of the rough council estates will be having all there friends round this weekend when the suns out cooking on tyres etc,that’ll put us back a couple of months 🤣🤣🤣🤣😷😷😷😷
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Shopping, reasonably, is regarded as an essential journey.
Maybe, maybe not. A top copper has threatened to start checking supermarket baskets.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-uk-police-chief-threatened-to-check-shopping-trolleys-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
Is that beer really necessary? And that chocolate? Do you really need flavoured water? There's water in the tap.
Hopefully they'll produce a list of approved items that constitute 'essential shopping items'.
That was said, you're correct. It was however quickly debunked by the force. Obviously you couldn't find that quick enough.
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That was said, you're correct. It was however quickly debunked by the force. Obviously you couldn't find that quick enough.
Of course it was debunked; like the police saying window cleaners can't work has been debunked.
;D
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Addressing Clean Clear and this request of me.
"You fancy putting your money where your mouth is (so to speak) and produce a RAMS for working amongst the public in a pandemic ?"
Why would I do that? I refer you to the government guidelines which suffice.
You took it upon yourself to add this : The government is not saying only people doing “essential” work can go to work. Anyone who cannot work from home can still go to work.
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So explain more................ Or do you think you should NOT have added that ?
What are you wibbling on about? That is in the original guidelines.
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
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The police that makes me laugh as well,have you seen a police officer these days all the sensible ones are long retired.
The average age of a police officer-social worker lol must be about 25,haven’t got a clue you’ve got to laugh when you hear them talk they’ve all got the same tone and drone of a voice from training.
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
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It's safer to be anywhere than a supermarket right now. You may have to queue keeping a 2m distance outside but inside the plan goes to pot, especially queueing to pay as people forget and naturally bunch up. I have stopped using supermarkets and use the local shops to me as everyone knows each other in our village and everyone has a greater respect for the 2m rule at all times thus making it a safer environment then a supermarket.
I think that is a good point. After all you can get all you need to have a balanced diet at most corner shops. So anyone going to a large supermarket is obviously not following the spirit of government guidelines.
Are you firing on all fours ? "Corner shops" here all mostly "Asian" owned/run............ no ham/bacon/beef. They mostly all collectivley run from the likes of Bestway (cash and carries, etc. ) they do not have capacity to take up the surge from Tesco/Sainsbury/Asda/Lidl/Aldi/Co Op/ SPar etc......
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Shopping, reasonably, is regarded as an essential journey.
Maybe, maybe not. A top copper has threatened to start checking supermarket baskets.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-uk-police-chief-threatened-to-check-shopping-trolleys-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
Is that beer really necessary? And that chocolate? Do you really need flavoured water? There's water in the tap.
Hopefully they'll produce a list of approved items that constitute 'essential shopping items'.
I didn't say essential items, did I?
But if you want to go Tesco everyday you might not get nicked but you might get something else.
Stay safe.
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Can't believe how everyone is having a go at each other twisting words, definitely some frustrated window cleaners about. I just say everyone keep safe regardless of what you do and respect other peoples choices.
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
FAKE NEWS!
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What are you wibbling on about? That is in the original guidelines.
Your guideline is to stay at home. Thats what i'm wibbling about. If you personally (and you did) wanna make a claim for how you can go out, you explain how it can be done within the confines of this Pandemic we're in.................
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
I did suspect as much and now I think you are correct; after all he has taken my baited hook about corner shops being sufficient to provide a good wholesome diet and therefore obviating (my word, don't pinch it) the need to go to a bigger supermarket.
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What are you wibbling on about? That is in the original guidelines.
Your guideline is to stay at home. Thats what i'm wibbling about. If you personally (and you did) wanna make a claim for how you can go out, you explain how it can be done within the confines of this Pandemic we're in.................
I refer you to the government's own guidelines CleanClear. ;D
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
One of us goes to AA. The other doesn't. If you wanna see how bladdered i am, its dead simple............... i'm on your messenger, you can video call me. Just for a chat and a laugh................. i'll welcome your call.
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
One of us goes to AA. The other doesn't. If you wanna see how bladdered i am, its dead simple............... i'm on your messenger, you can video call me. Just for a chat and a laugh................. i'll welcome your call.
Is alcohol an "essential" during this pandemic of epic proportions?
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
I'd take that as a compliment.
A large map of Africa!
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I did suspect as much and now I think you are correct; after all he has taken my baited hook
You wasted more time on a drunk than i would. What was it you where trying to do before, just remind me.... you where giving out guidelines.. but now it was a "baited hook" ? Am i getting that right ?
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It's safer to be anywhere than a supermarket right now. You may have to queue keeping a 2m distance outside but inside the plan goes to pot, especially queueing to pay as people forget and naturally bunch up. I have stopped using supermarkets and use the local shops to me as everyone knows each other in our village and everyone has a greater respect for the 2m rule at all times thus making it a safer environment then a supermarket.
I think that is a good point. After all you can get all you need to have a balanced diet at most corner shops. So anyone going to a large supermarket is obviously not following the spirit of government guidelines.
Are you firing on all fours ? "Corner shops" here all mostly "Asian" owned/run............ no ham/bacon/beef. They mostly all collectivley run from the likes of Bestway (cash and carries, etc. ) they do not have capacity to take up the surge from Tesco/Sainsbury/Asda/Lidl/Aldi/Co Op/ SPar etc......
Firing on all fours? I'm sure you mean "firing on all four".
Why do you need ham, bacon, or beef? Not essential surely? Eating ham, bacon and beef is known to contribute towards blocked arteries and thus putting more strain on hospital resources. This increases your chances of a heart attack or stroke and the need for an ambulance.
Save the NHS!
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
One of us goes to AA. The other doesn't. If you wanna see how bladdered i am, its dead simple............... i'm on your messenger, you can video call me. Just for a chat and a laugh................. i'll welcome your call.
Is alcohol an "essential" during this pandemic of epic proportions?
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One of us goes to AA. The other doesn't. If you wanna see how bladdered i am, its dead simple............... i'm on your messenger, you can video call me. Just for a chat and a laugh................. i'll welcome your call.
That's the Toilet Duck talking. ;D
The next stage will be wanting a fist fight with me.
Then I'll be your bestest mate.
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I did suspect as much and now I think you are correct; after all he has taken my baited hook
You wasted more time on a drunk than i would. What was it you where trying to do before, just remind me.... you where giving out guidelines.. but now it was a "baited hook" ? Am i getting that right ?
No, Clean - you're mixing up the wanderings of this thread - one is firing on all fours, whatever that means - another is shopping and how to remain safe in this pandemic of epic proportions - another is taking Tosh's word without proper authorisation (wibbling) but which Griff says wasn't his all along - another is the large map of Africa on your jeans when you have drunk alcohol which isn't essential in this pandemic epic epidemic aspic. Then you have to remember to eat no ham, beef, bacon to save the NHS and ameliorate (my word- not Griff's or Tosh's) the Coronuvirus N-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen. ;D
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'Wibbling' is a Toshism, AuRavelling.
Please find your own phrases.
Sorry, Tosh.
Clean brews his own Toilet Duck; he's probably bladdered on it now with a large map of Africa on the crotch of his jeans.
Just in case you haven't realised. ;D
One of us goes to AA. The other doesn't. If you wanna see how bladdered i am, its dead simple............... i'm on your messenger, you can video call me. Just for a chat and a laugh................. i'll welcome your call.
Is alcohol an "essential" during this pandemic of epic proportions?
It is, funnily enough. That's why off licences were allowed to stay open.
But you're confusing essential items and essential shopping. If you fancy a bag of pickled onion Monster Munch with your Malibu it's not considered essential to nip to the shop for it. Obviously, you won't get nicked or have to explain yourself but it isn't really essential, is it?
But if you did run into a bobby and told him what you were doing, he could send you back home.
It's not that difficult, is it?
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No Griff. Off licences are allowed to remain open but they aren't essential because you can get your six pack of Tennants 9% at the Co-op. Any good copper can tell you that.
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It's safer to be anywhere than a supermarket right now. You may have to queue keeping a 2m distance outside but inside the plan goes to pot, especially queueing to pay as people forget and naturally bunch up. I have stopped using supermarkets and use the local shops to me as everyone knows each other in our village and everyone has a greater respect for the 2m rule at all times thus making it a safer environment then a supermarket.
I think that is a good point. After all you can get all you need to have a balanced diet at most corner shops. So anyone going to a large supermarket is obviously not following the spirit of government guidelines.
Are you firing on all fours ? "Corner shops" here all mostly "Asian" owned/run............ no ham/bacon/beef. They mostly all collectivley run from the likes of Bestway (cash and carries, etc. ) they do not have capacity to take up the surge from Tesco/Sainsbury/Asda/Lidl/Aldi/Co Op/ SPar etc......
Firing on all fours? I'm sure you mean "firing on all four".
Why do you need ham, bacon, or beef? Not essential surely? Eating ham, bacon and beef is known to contribute towards blocked arteries and thus putting more strain on hospital resources. This increases your chances of a heart attack or stroke and the need for an ambulance.
Save the NHS!
Thats ok mate, i'll leave it now. I've said my piece and made my feelings clear. If i made them any clearer to you i'll get banned, so you get the picture. Thats exactly what i think of you. And then i'll just carry on as normal................
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I did suspect as much and now I think you are correct; after all he has taken my baited hook
You wasted more time on a drunk than i would. What was it you where trying to do before, just remind me.... you where giving out guidelines.. but now it was a "baited hook" ? Am i getting that right ?
No, Clean - you're mixing up the wanderings of this thread - one is firing on all fours, whatever that means - another is shopping and how to remain safe in this pandemic of epic proportions - another is taking Tosh's word without proper authorisation (wibbling) but which Griff says wasn't his all along - another is the large map of Africa on your jeans when you have drunk alcohol which isn't essential in this pandemic epic epidemic aspic. Then you have to remember to eat no ham, beef, bacon to save the NHS and ameliorate (my word- not Griff's or Tosh's) the Coronuvirus N-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen. ;D
I'm gonna be the first to remind you of this post................
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No Griff. Off licences are allowed to remain open but they aren't essential because you can get your six pack of Tennants 9% at the Co-op. Any good copper can tell you that.
You asked was alcohol an essential.
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
I did because they are selling an essential item.
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We've worked this week, or done a chunk of work this week to be more precise.
No problems apart from overly chatty customers pleased to have a distraction to their day, when I just want to get working and listen to an audio book.
Many of them asked about our wellbeing and we asked about theirs.
No negative responses from any of them, though these were nice houses in affluent areas, so generally - but not always - brighter customers who understand that window cleaners - following the government guidelines - pose no threat to them.
I'm going to guess if you worked in some sink estate, the really thick there just hear the 'stay at home' message and don't understand the nuances. The same type of ones who kick off on facebook because a shelf stacker got a bit too close to them.
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The next stage will be wanting a fist fight with me.
You off ya nut ? You've done a bit of boxing and are about 13/14 stone(or more) ... i havn't, and i'm just about 10 stone soaking wet and you think i'll be wanting a fist fight with you ? Tell me, what gave you the first clue i was gonna ask you for a fist fight ?
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
Griff's going to follow you about the forum now, posting nonsense on all of your posts.
Let's see how you like it. ;D
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Putin's getting tough in Moscow.
"The Russian parliament has approved an “anti-virus” package of laws including up to seven years in prison for serious violations of quarantine rules."
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You off ya nut ? You've done a bit of boxing and are about 13/14 stone(or more) ... i havn't, and i'm just about 10 stone soaking wet and you think i'll be wanting a fist fight with you ? Tell me, what gave you the first clue i was gonna ask you for a fist fight ?
The Toilet Duck fuelled posts. ;D
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
Griff's going to follow you about the forum now, posting nonsense on all of your posts.
Let's see how you like it. ;D
No. Me and Griff are gonna set up a Go Fund Me page with the intention of keeping YOU entertained. I suspect it'll be well funded by an anonymous Lady down Chepstow way................... ;D
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
I did because they are selling an essential item.
But I don't think alcohol is essential and as I just make it up as I go along and pay no heed to government guidelines (not my word or yours or Tosh's) - mate.
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
Griff's going to follow you about the forum now, posting nonsense on all of your posts.
Let's see how you like it. ;D
It's not nonsense. That's why off licences are still open. They're not my laws. A shop selling an essential item doesn't have to be an essential shop selling an essential item. Off licences are essential retailers.
I'm sorry that you didn't like me posting nonsense on your posts. But it is a forum and you could always block me.
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Night night everyone, hope you've enjoyed this little diversion as much as I have. Sleep well.
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But I don't think alcohol is essential
Of course it's not, unless you're an alkie or an idiot.
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
I did because they are selling an essential item.
But I don't think alcohol is essential and as I just make it up as I go along and pay no heed to government guidelines (not my word or yours or Tosh's) - mate.
You'd best take that up with the government. Those are the guidelines whether you like them or not.
It's essential not compulsory. Window cleaning is allowed but not compulsory.
You can take it up with the government about the conscientious objectors too. I've no objections to that.
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But you said that was why off-licenses were allowed to remain open.
Griff's going to follow you about the forum now, posting nonsense on all of your posts.
Let's see how you like it. ;D
No. Me and Griff are gonna set up a Go Fund Me page with the intention of keeping YOU entertained. I suspect it'll be well funded by an anonymous Lady down Chepstow way................... ;D
All funds are welcome.
I think I got too good at it though.
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But I don't think alcohol is essential
Of course it's not, unless you're an alkie or an idiot.
They are government guidelines, Mary Whitehouse.
Unless you're saying all the government are alkies or idiots?
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Night night everyone, hope you've enjoyed this little diversion as much as I have. Sleep well.
Sure that’s wise ;D
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Off to get two egg custards and an ham sandwich 😇👍
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😭😭😭shop closed that sells the egg custard s because it s good Friday, anyway all is not lost went to another place n got 3 slices of cheese cake all i need now is some cream 😇😇😇😇
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😭😭😭shop closed that sells the egg custard s because it s good Friday, any all is not lost went to another place n got 3 slices of cheese cake all i need now is some cream 😇😇😇😇
Have a drive round for some.
Cream is essential with cheesecake.
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They are government guidelines, Mary Whitehouse.
Unless you're saying all the government are alkies or idiots?
I'm saying booze isn't essential.
They've just got a better representative body that speaks out for their collective business needs than what window cleaners have.
Does the window cleaning federation still exist?
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They are government guidelines, Mary Whitehouse.
Unless you're saying all the government are alkies or idiots?
I'm saying booze isn't essential.
They've just got a better representative body that speaks out for their collective business needs than what window cleaners have.
Possibly.
Maybe it's a compromise after they shut the pubs and restaurants. Off licences staying open was also intended to take pressure off the supermarkets. It could be seen as a way of raising the 'spirits' of the people under lockdown.
I wonder how Churchill would have gone on during the war without his 'essentials'.
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I wonder how Churchill would have gone on during the war without his 'essentials'.
Just great.
He was ex military, fought in various campaigns and displayed physical courage on the battlefield.
Like most soldiers, he'd be no stranger to deprivation and hardship.
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I wonder how Churchill would have gone on during the war without his 'essentials'.
Just great.
He was ex military, fought in various campaigns and displayed physical courage on the battlefield.
Like most soldiers, he'd be no stranger to deprivation and hardship.
I dunno, Tosh - Hitler was reputed to have been teetotal and he was ex-military, fought in various campaigns and displayed physical courage on the battlefield. Still didn't turn out too well for him ;)
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I dunno, Tosh - Hitler was reputed to have been teetotal and he was ex-military, fought in various campaigns and displayed physical courage on the battlefield. Still didn't turn out too well for him ;)
This is a move of goalposts.
'Enduring deprivation' was the principle here. Not outcomes.
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I wonder how Churchill would have gone on during the war without his 'essentials'.
Just great.
He was ex military, fought in various campaigns and displayed physical courage on the battlefield.
Like most soldiers, he'd be no stranger to deprivation and hardship.
Well if you're sure.
He might have been an alkie so that he didn't "remember the Dardanelles" though.
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Well if you're sure.
He might have been an alkie so that he didn't "remember the Dardanelles" though.
There was certainly something not normal about his drinking habits, but Churchill lived till he was 90 years old and died in 1965 when the average life expectancy was 71 years old.
I seriously doubt many alcoholics live till their 90.
So he probably wasn't.
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Well if you're sure.
He might have been an alkie so that he didn't "remember the Dardanelles" though.
There was certainly something not normal about his drinking habits, but Churchill lived till he was 90 years old and died in 1965 when the average life expectancy was 71 years old.
I seriously doubt many alcoholics live till their 90.
So he probably wasn't.
He was only one alcoholic though.
He probably would have been classed as an alcoholic using today's government guidelines. Maybe a functioning one.
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He probably would have been classed as an alcoholic using today's government guidelines. Maybe a functioning one.
No he wouldn't have. The medical profession avoids using the word 'alcoholic', because they think there's stigma attached to it.
So it would be impossible for gov to classify anyone as an alkie when the medical profession thinks it's a dirty word.
They'll use terms like 'alcohol dependant' instead.
But with regards Churchy, there's a good essay on the subject here:
https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/myth-churchill-alcohol/
You won't read it though because you don't like knowing what you're talking about.
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He probably would have been classed as an alcoholic using today's government guidelines. Maybe a functioning one.
No he wouldn't have. The medical profession avoids using the word 'alcoholic', because they think there's stigma attached to it.
So it would be impossible for gov to classify anyone as an alkie when the medical profession thinks it's a dirty word.
They'll use terms like 'alcohol dependant' instead.
But with regards Churchy, there's a good essay on the subject here:
https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/myth-churchill-alcohol/
You won't read it though because you don't like knowing what you're talking about.
Avoids and impossible are very different though.
And it's 'alcohol dependent' while you're pitnicking.
I might have a look later, ta.
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Well Hitler endured more deprivation than Churchill. Didn't get born into Blenheim Palace did he? Brought up in some Austro-German border post by an alcoholic father.
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😭😭😭shop closed that sells the egg custard s because it s good Friday, any all is not lost went to another place n got 3 slices of cheese cake all i need now is some cream 😇😇😇😇
Have a drive round for some.
Cream is essential with cheesecake.
best thing you said all week griff 😇👍
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im surprised that some of the council gardeners are still off work....the grass is literally growing under their feet.....its getting out of control around here and its gonna take an awful lot of work to get them tidy again if it goes on until june.... ::)roll..
also fly tipping is rife........the councils should open the recycling centres again!
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im surprised that some of the council gardeners are still off work....the grass is literally growing under their feet.....its getting out of control around here and its gonna take an awful lot of work to get them tidy again if it goes on until june.... ::)roll..
also fly tipping is rife........the councils should open the recycling centres again!
I cut some of the council owned grass around our house myself.
Bank holiday weekend, not much else to do and council have probably a bit on their plate.
They’ve given you a cheap house for a fair while now Daz, maybe return the favour and help them out a bit?
Sure your neighbours would appreciate the gesture as well.
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im surprised that some of the council gardeners are still off work....the grass is literally growing under their feet.....its getting out of control around here and its gonna take an awful lot of work to get them tidy again if it goes on until june.... ::)roll..
also fly tipping is rife........the councils should open the recycling centres again!
I cut some of the council owned grass around our house myself.
Bank holiday weekend, not much else to do and council have probably a bit on their plate.
They’ve given you a cheap house for a fair while now Daz, maybe return the favour and help them out a bit?
Sure your neighbours would appreciate the gesture as well.
i would do but i dont own a lawnmower mate........my missus has artificial grass!
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im surprised that some of the council gardeners are still off work....the grass is literally growing under their feet.....its getting out of control around here and its gonna take an awful lot of work to get them tidy again if it goes on until june.... ::)roll..
also fly tipping is rife........the councils should open the recycling centres again!
I cut some of the council owned grass around our house myself.
Bank holiday weekend, not much else to do and council have probably a bit on their plate.
They’ve given you a cheap house for a fair while now Daz, maybe return the favour and help them out a bit?
Sure your neighbours would appreciate the gesture as well.
That's the spirit, Don!
I've a mate who works for the council and he's been volunteering packing food parcels for the vulnerable.
He's still getting paid and they've told him that he doesn't need to go into work but he wants to.
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We did a Hannover Court property today; about 40 flats; all full of elderly types.
Some of the ground floor windows were annoying; families had been up to visit - like waving at their elderly relatives through the glass - and quite a few had stuck drawings their kids had done to the windows with sticky tape.
So I had to carefully remove them, clean all the glass, and then re-stick them (I used electrician;s tape from the van) back on the glass.
I'm not even sure if I got the right drawings on the right flats. ;D
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i cleaned a block of granny flats too today....i had to move away from quite a few of them when they came out chatting......some of them still seem oblivious to the 2m distance rule! ::)roll.....
then this afternoon i had 2 large stand alone houses to clean...one was a nurses house(shes not working this week)and she offered me a brew...i refused obviously but it beggars belief that people in the medical profession would be doing this.....2 weeks ago it was a retired doctors house who offered me a coffee! ::)roll
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i cleaned a block of granny flats too today....i had to move away from quite a few of them when they came out chatting......some of them still seem oblivious to the 2m distance rule! ::)roll.....
then this afternoon i had 2 large stand alone houses to clean...one was a nurses house(shes not working this week)and she offered me a brew...i refused obviously but it beggars belief that people in the medical profession would be doing this.....2 weeks ago it was a retired doctors house who offered me a coffee! ::)roll
You can accept a brew, can't you? Get them to leave it on the step and I'm sure they'd wash the cup after.
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i cleaned a block of granny flats too today....i had to move away from quite a few of them when they came out chatting......some of them still seem oblivious to the 2m distance rule! ::)roll.....
then this afternoon i had 2 large stand alone houses to clean...one was a nurses house(shes not working this week)and she offered me a brew...i refused obviously but it beggars belief that people in the medical profession would be doing this.....2 weeks ago it was a retired doctors house who offered me a coffee! ::)roll
One of.my customers has just finished chemo a week before I was at theres. The hubby made me a coffee as usual as I knew they would have to be well (non CV) and afterwards, i washed the cup n disinfected it for them to take back in after I left. All is good,
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i cleaned a block of granny flats too today....i had to move away from quite a few of them when they came out chatting......some of them still seem oblivious to the 2m distance rule! ::)roll.....
then this afternoon i had 2 large stand alone houses to clean...one was a nurses house(shes not working this week)and she offered me a brew...i refused obviously but it beggars belief that people in the medical profession would be doing this.....2 weeks ago it was a retired doctors house who offered me a coffee! ::)roll
You can accept a brew, can't you? Get them to leave it on the step and I'm sure they'd wash the cup after.
absolutely not griff........
1.NO brews or biscuits
2.NO inside kitchen windows
3.online payments/contactless payments where possible
4.keep at least 2m distance from customers/joe public
5.liquid soap/hand sanitiser and antibacterial wipes in the van (used frequently throughout the day)
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What for? The risk is very low you know and even if you caught it there’s only a one percent chance you’d die.
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
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What for? The risk is very low you know and even if you caught it there’s only a one percent chance you’d die.
its just common sense......if im going to work then i need to implement a few rules until this is over with...... ;D
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
i will thanks Darran........ :)
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First post all ,so be gentle.
Decided to go back to work yesterday with my son as only been going for 12 months and Govt support not enough. We have always text the day before and the response was 75% of customers asked us to clean. reasons for declining were financial but mainly health and safety reasons.
We turned up for our first job and got 3 new regular customers (only small jobs though on a new housing estate) but nothing new for the rest of the day. Customers we visited were supportive. I probably over analysed the situation and probably in hindsight should have continued to work given the lack of financial support in our particular situation..Felt reasonably good about the day driving home but van started to make strange noises on the way and eventually broke down . Now faced with £1050 bill to get new turbo . Will be fitted this week and out again next week. Hope it wasn't Karma.
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First post all ,so be gentle.
Decided to go back to work yesterday with my son as only been going for 12 months and Govt support not enough. We have always text the day before and the response was 75% of customers asked us to clean. reasons for declining were financial but mainly health and safety reasons.
We turned up for our first job and got 3 new regular customers (only small jobs though on a new housing estate) but nothing new for the rest of the day. Customers we visited were supportive. I probably over analysed the situation and probably in hindsight should have continued to work given the lack of financial support in our particular situation..Felt reasonably good about the day driving home but van started to make strange noises on the way and eventually broke down . Now faced with £1050 bill to get new turbo . Will be fitted this week and out again next week. Hope it wasn't Karma.
Thats not Karma mate, you did nothing wrong. When you gotta go you gotta go. Hope you van gets sorted for you. If the turbo was gonna go it was gonna go, and better now than any other time.
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That’s a bad break with regards to the van- been there done that - there is never a good time for it
I don’t doubt many customers are “happy” to see their window cleaner - after all the risk is all yours - if your out working that’s really down to you as an individual and how you want to ok at the gov’ guidelines - that is after all what they are a guide
Darran
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That’s a bad break with regards to the van- been there done that - there is never a good time for it
I don’t doubt many customers are “happy” to see their window cleaner - after all the risk is all yours - if your out working that’s really down to you as an individual and how you want to ok at the gov’ guidelines - that is after all what they are a guide
Darran
I'm not working neither mate, havn't since about the 18th March . Feel for anyone who has to though and the choice is not so clear cut for them, but more of a neccesity.
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Fully understand - were the same other than trips to unit to turn the vans over it all stop here
Darran
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First post all ,so be gentle.
Decided to go back to work yesterday with my son as only been going for 12 months and Govt support not enough. We have always text the day before and the response was 75% of customers asked us to clean. reasons for declining were financial but mainly health and safety reasons.
We turned up for our first job and got 3 new regular customers (only small jobs though on a new housing estate) but nothing new for the rest of the day. Customers we visited were supportive. I probably over analysed the situation and probably in hindsight should have continued to work given the lack of financial support in our particular situation..Felt reasonably good about the day driving home but van started to make strange noises on the way and eventually broke down . Now faced with £1050 bill to get new turbo . Will be fitted this week and out again next week. Hope it wasn't Karma.
If the government thought you were a threat to yourself or others you wouldn't be allowed to work, full stop, so you have nothing to feel guilty about, as for your van are sure its the turbo that's the problem ? when causing problems they tend to run sluggish/ cause power loss rather than stop you in your tracks, get a second opinion.
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First post all ,so be gentle.
Decided to go back to work yesterday with my son as only been going for 12 months and Govt support not enough. We have always text the day before and the response was 75% of customers asked us to clean. reasons for declining were financial but mainly health and safety reasons.
We turned up for our first job and got 3 new regular customers (only small jobs though on a new housing estate) but nothing new for the rest of the day. Customers we visited were supportive. I probably over analysed the situation and probably in hindsight should have continued to work given the lack of financial support in our particular situation..Felt reasonably good about the day driving home but van started to make strange noises on the way and eventually broke down . Now faced with £1050 bill to get new turbo . Will be fitted this week and out again next week. Hope it wasn't Karma.
If the government thought you were a threat to yourself or others you wouldn't be allowed to work, full stop, so you have nothing to feel guilty about, as for your van are sure its the turbo that's the problem ? when causing problems they tend to run sluggish/ cause power loss rather than stop you in your tracks, get a second opinion.
I'll give you a second opinion and i havn't even seen the van, thats how good i am. He said it "broke down"................
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First post all ,so be gentle.
Decided to go back to work yesterday with my son as only been going for 12 months and Govt support not enough. We have always text the day before and the response was 75% of customers asked us to clean. reasons for declining were financial but mainly health and safety reasons.
We turned up for our first job and got 3 new regular customers (only small jobs though on a new housing estate) but nothing new for the rest of the day. Customers we visited were supportive. I probably over analysed the situation and probably in hindsight should have continued to work given the lack of financial support in our particular situation..Felt reasonably good about the day driving home but van started to make strange noises on the way and eventually broke down . Now faced with £1050 bill to get new turbo . Will be fitted this week and out again next week. Hope it wasn't Karma.
If the government thought you were a threat to yourself or others you wouldn't be allowed to work, full stop, so you have nothing to feel guilty about, as for your van are sure its the turbo that's the problem ? when causing problems they tend to run sluggish/ cause power loss rather than stop you in your tracks, get a second opinion.
I'll give you a second opinion and i havn't even seen the van, thats how good i am. He said it "broke down"................
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Thanks gents, Renault specialist took a look at it as a favour (it is a traffic) but he didn't want to do the job as he is claiming business grant because of lockdown and didn't want to take the risk and then a mobile mechanic friend and both said turbo. Van is being recovered today and will get it back tomorrow so all being well back out next week.
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
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You’ve surprised me with some of your posts over the last few weeks Darran.
I always thought you were one of the sensible/non argumentative ones on here.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever and concern over not working.
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Its sour grapes jonny.....no doubt about it.....
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Its sour grapes jonny.....no doubt about it.....
::)roll
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
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You’ve surprised me with some of your posts over the last few weeks Darran.
I always thought you were one of the sensible/non argumentative ones on here.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever and concern over not working.
Hysteria Jonny, there are a few on here that Iv always considered to be sensible/level headed types who now seem to have lost the plot.
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I was back in yesterday for the 1st time since the lockdown. I was pleasantly surprised how things went, all customers happy I was back round and were encouraging me to keep going where possible. It was also a big relief to start getting some income back in
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I decided to take one of our two vans off the road at end of last month the mot, insurance and tax would have cost almost£1,000 plus I wasn't sure if we would be allowed to work or not so we're just sharing the work now by going alternative days in other van.
Most customers are pleased to see us only lost a few but they'll return when its all over.
I read the do's and don'ts a million times regarding who is allowed to work and who is not so happy that we're still working and not feeling guilty about it!
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I stopped at home all easter weekend drove me nuts so dont know how you guys that are staying at home are coping, but still accepting brews and biscuits need them for my fuel for my body 😁😁😁
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It's too nice to be working ???
3 more to do then I'm off home to get some shrimps (chicken) on the barbie
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
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You’ve surprised me with some of your posts over the last few weeks Darran.
I always thought you were one of the sensible/non argumentative ones on here.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever and concern over not working.
Cabin fever - not me , nor do I have sour grapes, and have no concerns over following the guidelines - my view is that we should follow the guidelines and as posted before I have more concern for the health and safety of my staff than trying to rake in a few quid - what has really surprise myself is the total lack of objectivity by many here, the name calling, the put downs etc... just because there's a difference of opinion,
It's clear that some on here put personal profit first over staff welfare, to me that's shocking , others need to carry on , even when there is financial help available from several sources
Darran
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the funny thing is, the only place i have had any negative comments about us working over this period is on this forum.
no grief off our domestic customers . no cancellations. no people calling out to us whilst we're working.
so its a funny one...
1. the government asked us to carry on working
2. our customers want us to come and clean
3. my staff are happy to work
but on window cleaning section of cleanitup there's a lot of negative comments about people who have carried on.
strange eh
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the funny thing is, the only place i have had any negative comments about us working over this period is on this forum.
no grief off our domestic customers . no cancellations. no people calling out to us whilst we're working.
so its a funny one...
1. the government asked us to carry on working
2. our customers want us to come and clean
3. my staff are happy to work
but on window cleaning section of cleanitup there's a lot of negative comments about people who have carried on.
strange eh
+1
BTW i went past your depot out Guilden Sutton way this week while working, eeeek!!!
Is that New??
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Yes Richard - there is some strange contradictions on here
Darran
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
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You’ve surprised me with some of your posts over the last few weeks Darran.
I always thought you were one of the sensible/non argumentative ones on here.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever and concern over not working.
Cabin fever - not me , nor do I have sour grapes, and have no concerns over following the guidelines - my view is that we should follow the guidelines and as posted before I have more concern for the health and safety of my staff than trying to rake in a few quid - what has really surprise myself is the total lack of objectivity by many here, the name calling, the put downs etc... just because there's a difference of opinion,
It's clear that some on here put personal profit first over staff welfare, to me that's shocking , others need to carry on , even when there is financial help available from several sources
Darran
Before harping on about put downs maybe read your sarcastic reply to Dazmond again, you talk about having no concerns about people following guidelines and then self righteously harp on about putting money before people as being shocking, objectivity ? you wouldn't know the meaning of the word.
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Interesting post dry - I was aiming more for irony in the light of al the cr@p being spouted on both sides of the argument but there you go, can't please everyone
With regards to being self righteous I will have to disagree with you, I merely state that we are not working and took that decision or the staff - others on here have made it clear they would sack staff if they had concerns about working in this pandemic ( I will add that I speak to over a dozen current and former members of this forum all of whom employ and I can tell you now what they pot here and try to justify is not what is spoken outside this forum )
As stated before - sole trader is a different kettle of fish, you make your on judgement on what you think is safe and how to follow the guidelines set out
Darran
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Don’t know why you worry Daz - I reckon your customers must have been reading all the posts on here and realised us window cleaners are immune to this disease 👌
Don’t forget - your performing a vital and essential service, so blow the message stay at home - save the NHS
Keep up the good work lads 👍
Darran
::)roll
You’ve surprised me with some of your posts over the last few weeks Darran.
I always thought you were one of the sensible/non argumentative ones on here.
I’ll put it down to cabin fever and concern over not working.
Cabin fever - not me , nor do I have sour grapes, and have no concerns over following the guidelines - my view is that we should follow the guidelines and as posted before I have more concern for the health and safety of my staff than trying to rake in a few quid - what has really surprise myself is the total lack of objectivity by many here, the name calling, the put downs etc... just because there's a difference of opinion,
It's clear that some on here put personal profit first over staff welfare, to me that's shocking , others need to carry on , even when there is financial help available from several sources
Darran
What has surprised me more is the fact that I’ve heard other window cleaners say they’ve had customers say to them I’m glad you are still coming I thought I was going to have to get someone else and mean it,my customers have been pleased to see me and have all said you don’t get near anyone you are out in the open air etc.
There will be a lot of surprised window cleaners if they think they are going back to a full schedule of work imo only,talking to people out and about and other window cleaners also the general consensus with customers is we didn’t think you would need to stop coming,to some that might be an eye opener but a lot of people have been thinking like that with people that work outside the roads are still getting repaired the tree surgeons are out etc,lots of manual workers still working not just window cleaners.
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I have been back 2nd week now, finishing around 12 / 1pm. that's when they all start sitting on there Fronts so im home then. In one area today I had a call ignored as I was working. Message sound went off. ill look later . Anyway I looked at message, Can you clean nu. 16 address. . My windows are pitted and my Window Cleaner has not been for a while. im looking to change.
I have been cleaning in this area for 7 years now. new build estate . I already put a Flyer in this house with price when they moved in around 6 months ago.. Why didn't they ask me to do them when I canvassed 6 months ago. They can Pixx Off I thought. Look after my own Regular Customers who deserve my Services more.
Looks like some will not wait if there Windy is not coming out. Im not taking anyones work from them just to keep them happy. Unless she has heard how good I am.
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i bet theyll be a lot more window cleaners going back to work soon...its official the lockdown is now extended for another 3 weeks at least.......
the irony is the weather has never been better since the lockdown was announced! 8)
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the funny thing is, the only place i have had any negative comments about us working over this period is on this forum.
no grief off our domestic customers . no cancellations. no people calling out to us whilst we're working.
so its a funny one...
1. the government asked us to carry on working
2. our customers want us to come and clean
3. my staff are happy to work
but on window cleaning section of cleanitup there's a lot of negative comments about people who have carried on.
strange eh
+1
BTW i went past your depot out Guilden Sutton way this week while working, eeeek!!!
Is that New??
we only have a unit there. i moved in 12 months ago...
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i bet theyll be a lot more window cleaners going back to work soon...its official the lockdown is now extended for another 3 weeks at least.......
the irony is the weather has never been better since the lockdown was announced! 8)
That's true!!😆