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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: j timms on April 01, 2020, 01:48:04 pm
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
the government is asking us to carry on working if we can work within their safe guidelines which a lot of us can.
window cleaning externally is very low risk for this. we wear gloves, the customer can stay indoors, etc etc.
if the government, who are being advised by experts in this, are asking us to carry on working to keep the economy going then i think that is what we should do.
the government is not trying to stop the spread of the virus, they are trying to slow the spread of it. if they need to slow it more they will ask all non essential business to stop working
if the government asks us to stop working i will do so immediately. no question. regardless of the financial cost to me and my staff
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
And with that logic....why do you think window cleaners, postman, bin men, delivery drivers etc. are not dropping like flies?
I don't mean that to come across as argumentative or rude but to put some perspective on it.
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I'm shocked that the mods and admin are letting these idiots start the same thread over and over, I reckon the electric going off for a month would kill a lot more of these guys than the virus.
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I went to my ‘local’ supermarket which is 7 miles away this morning. I live in the middle of nowhere. The roads seem to be getting busier since I last went out about a week ago. Don’t know if this is country wide? There was a small queue at the supermarket to get in. One woman reached across my wife to get something off a shelf. My wife turned round and said ‘social distancing’ the woman turned round and said if you’re that bothered shop on-line :o
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So all those going out are NOT HELPIING spread coivid????....😂
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Not another silly post. Some people don't understand the guidlines set by the government.
Not knocking anyone who wants to stay off work but don't bother with the contradicting scare mongering trying to force collapse on our industry.
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I'm shocked that the mods and admin are letting these idiots start the same thread over and over, I reckon the electric going off for a month would kill a lot more of these guys than the virus.
Shocked eh? ::)roll
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I'm shocked that the mods and admin are letting these idiots start the same thread over and over, I reckon the electric going off for a month would kill a lot more of these guys than the virus.
Shocked eh? ::)roll
Sarcasm Gold sarcasm, maybe I should have put absolutely shocked (roll eyes)
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
Have a nice cup of Yorkshire tea.
It'll help calm you down.
My new shurflo pump arrived today; thank heavens suppliers and Yodel are still working.
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Aint Aprils fool meant to finish at 12?
So why is this nonsense still going on, debating about it
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I'm shocked that the mods and admin are letting these idiots start the same thread over and over, I reckon the electric going off for a month would kill a lot more of these guys than the virus.
Shocked eh? ::)roll
Sarcasm Gold sarcasm. (roll eyes)
Well I though it was standard sarcasm, not of the Gold standard.
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I'm shocked that the mods and admin are letting these idiots start the same thread over and over, I reckon the electric going off for a month would kill a lot more of these guys than the virus.
Do you think that the post should be deleted or the poster banned? Just so that you don't feel uncomfortable about it?
Get a grip.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
As things stand it seems that this forum has more than it's fair share of "shocked people" - those that are shocked that some are working and those that are shocked that some are not.
I find that a balanced view helps; one that respects a different decision to our own.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
No one can really argue with that point. But they will.
There's a difference between 'go to work' and 'only go to work'.
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Aint Aprils fool meant to finish at 12?
So why is this nonsense still going on, debating about it
We're not quite over the peak hysterical postings curve yet.
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The next post will be claiming a life sentence in prison for anyone that cleans a window tommorow. ;D
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Aint Aprils fool meant to finish at 12?
So why is this nonsense still going on, debating about it
We're not quite over peak hysterical postings curve yet.
Do you want to try again?
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No one can really argue with that point. But they will.
There's a difference between 'go to work' and 'only go to work'.
It's like window cleaners know more about epidemiology than the scientists at the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
I'll just trust the science-led government advice.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
I wear surgical gloves and as my Mrs is always telling me I’ve only ever got my pole in my hand.
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No one can really argue with that point. But they will.
There's a difference between 'go to work' and 'only go to work'.
It's like window cleaners know more about epidemiology than the scientists at the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
I'll just trust the science-led government advice.
Are you saying that they wouldn't say that the more people that stay at home would lead to a quicker eradication of the virus? Then say "stay home".
And don't forget, you're the one that said that window cleaners won't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus.
I wonder what the scientists would say about that.
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Insurance companies will do ANYTHING to get out of paying up, so lets say someone has an accident cleaning windows, do you not think they will say you have not adhered to government advice and should have only gone to work if you cannot work from home, and it is safe or essential ?
The same can be said driving to and from work if you had an accident, i would imagine they would ask where you travelling to work, when governmnet advice stated only if you have to and essential - I do not think for one minute they will believe it is essential.
You could therefore be classed an not insured - that was told to me by a HR Consultant.
So i would serously contact you insurers to ask will you be covered at the moment once you have the answer please post on here.
Thanks
You're trying to come across as if you are speaking as fact, when in fact you are making things up as you go along.
And this "HR consultant" you speak of is a figment of your imagination, aren't they?
Go on admit it! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1585751510_grin.gif)
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Are you saying that they wouldn't say that the more people that stay at home would lead to a quicker eradication of the virus? Then say "stay home".
No, this is what I'm saying:
It's like window cleaners know more about epidemiology than the scientists at the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
I'll just trust the science-led government advice.
I can cut and paste it again for you if you're still confused?
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And don't forget, you're the one that said that window cleaners won't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus.
I wonder what the scientists would say about that.
They'd probably say window cleaners who follow the science-led guidelines won't make a blind bit of difference.
That's why scientists formulated the guidelines.
Science huh? ;D
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Are you saying that they wouldn't say that the more people that stay at home would lead to a quicker eradication of the virus? Then say "stay home".
No, this is what I'm saying:
It's like window cleaners know more about epidemiology than the scientists at the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
I'll just trust the science-led government advice.
I can cut and paste it again for you if you're still confused?
You're making things up.
Are you disputing the point that I highlighted in the OP's post? I'm sure the scientists would back him up by asking more people to stay home.
Anyway, dispute away...….
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And don't forget, you're the one that said that window cleaners won't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus.
I wonder what the scientists would say about that.
They'd probably say window cleaners who follow the science-led guidelines won't make a blind bit of difference.
That's why scientists formulated the guidelines.
Science huh? ;D
I bet you that they wouldn't.
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I bet you that they wouldn't.
Scientists created the guidelines, Griff. If they thought window cleaners were a driver of covid-19, like school children can be, then they'd have shut us down.
Why do you deny science and think you know better?
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I'm sure the scientists would back him up by asking more people to stay home.
Anyway, dispute away...….
No they wouldn't.
And what other hypothetical stuff would you like to say you're sure about?
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
Just follow the science-led guidelines; scientists know what they're doing.
Try not to out think them; you can't.
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I bet you that they wouldn't.
Scientists created the guidelines, Griff. If they thought window cleaners were a driver of covid-19, like school children can be, then they'd have shut us down.
Why do you deny science and think you know better?
I'm denying your 'science' because I do know better.
Why the frig are you talking about window cleaners and school children with regards to the coronavirus? They are not specified in the government guidelines.
Co-vid 19 doesn't discriminate and we're all potential carriers. Schools are shut down because of the numbers that attend. Window cleaners are not because we work in smaller numbers.
That was the OP's highlighted point.
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I'm denying your 'science' because I do know better.
It's not my science; it's just science.
But if you know better than the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies then you really ought to do the UK a favour and let them know that their guidelines need changing.
Get Bungle to help you out with drafting your letter; he could add 'snipers' to your list of recommendations.
;D
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I'm denying your 'science' because I do know better.
It's not my science; it's just science.
But if you know better than the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies then you really ought to do the UK a favour and let them know that their guidelines need changing.
Get Archer to help you out with drafting your letter; he could add 'snipers' to your list of recommendations.
;D
Why don't you tell them that you think that window cleaners don't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus?
Even though you think that your partner, a window cleaner, could have had it as far back as February.
I wonder if they'd accept that as science.
Do you think that they would?
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Why don't you tell them that you think that window cleaners don't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus?
Even though you think that your partner, a window cleaner, could have had it as far back as February.
I wonder if they'd accept that as science.
Do you think that they would?
You're sounding a bit narky, Griff.
Is it time for a cup of tea?
What other science-led initiatives do you think you know more about than the scientists?
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I'm denying your 'science' because I do know better.
It's not my science; it's just science.
But if you know better than the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies then you really ought to do the UK a favour and let them know that their guidelines need changing.
Get Bungle to help you out with drafting your letter; he could add 'snipers' to your list of recommendations.
;D
Busby (Archer).
Is there anything else that I can help you with?
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Is there anything else that I can help you with?
Yes, what other science-led policies do you think you know more about than the scientists?
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Busby (Archer).
He's more like Bungle than Busby. ;D
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Why don't you tell them that you think that window cleaners don't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus?
Even though you think that your partner, a window cleaner, could have had it as far back as February.
I wonder if they'd accept that as science.
Do you think that they would?
You're sounding a bit narky, Griff.
Is it time for a cup of tea?
What other science-led initiatives do you think you know more about than the scientists?
You're not a scientist. Or scientists.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
And some are going to be equally shocked that some aren't going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
It could depend on how great that chance is.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
Yes I agree the potential is definitely there. If/when I decide to go back it is something to be aware of and I hope those that are still working will too.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Yes I agree it is definitely possible for us to be spreading the virus when we are cleaning peoples windows.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
In an ideal world I doubt anyone does.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Yes if the government try to back pedal on the grant it would be bad.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated''
Yes I do.
''and everyone not just he selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country''
Not sure about that one.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That's the tricky one. Any risk?
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
I agree, I cannot see how the fact that people go shopping at supermarkets (essentials and as infrequently as possible is the advice) has any bearing on justifying going window cleaning.
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
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Why don't you tell them that you think that window cleaners don't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus?
Even though you think that your partner, a window cleaner, could have had it as far back as February.
I wonder if they'd accept that as science.
Do you think that they would?
You're sounding a bit narky, Griff.
Is it time for a cup of tea?
What other science-led initiatives do you think you know more about than the scientists?
You're not a scientist. Or scientists.
Exactly; none of us are.
Which is why I'll follow the science-led government guidelines.
You however know better and think they're wrong.
Which other science-led policies do you disagree with?
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I think in 36 years of cleaning windows i never touch any of those things you talk about
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Why don't you tell them that you think that window cleaners don't make a blind bit of difference to the coronavirus?
Even though you think that your partner, a window cleaner, could have had it as far back as February.
I wonder if they'd accept that as science.
Do you think that they would?
You're sounding a bit narky, Griff.
Is it time for a cup of tea?
What other science-led initiatives do you think you know more about than the scientists?
You're not a scientist. Or scientists.
Exactly; none of us are.
Which is why I'll follow the science-led government guidelines.
You however know better and think they're wrong.
Which other science-led policies do you disagree with?
I didn't say anyone, let alone a scientist, was wrong.
I said I don't think anyone could argue with the OP's highlighted point. You are though by saying that the scientists disagree with it. Have you any back up for this?
Do you not think the point of the lockdown is to prevent the spread of the virus?
The scientists do.
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I didn't say anyone, let alone a scientist, was wrong.
I'll infer from that, that you believe in the science-led policy, including the exceptions, then.
Spot on.
I'll stay at home completely except for those exceptions.
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I didn't say anyone, let alone a scientist, was wrong.
I'll infer from that, that you believe in the science-led policy, including the exceptions, then.
Spot on.
I'll stay at home completely except for those exceptions.
Course I do.
But I see 'only go to work' as different to 'go to work'.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
Calm down your getting hysterical.
;D
As all my other previous posts.... I will continue to follow government advice and guidelines from the experts.
I’m working (safely) until advised not to.
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But I see 'only go to work' as different to 'go to work'.
The guidelines don't say that, Griff.
They say:
"travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
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But I see 'only go to work' as different to 'go to work'.
The guidelines don't say that, Griff.
They say:
"travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
There is no you should go to work. There might be a you can go to work.
Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective and I only pipe up when someone says something daft.
More recently, peoples' reasons for working have prompted me to reply and not that people are working.
It's the people that are working not that people are working, that's the problem.
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Personally I think to a certain extent we should should trust our own individual instincts on this and not allow governments or scientists to decide for us. They are letting some workers including window cleaners continue because to the best of their knowledge right now they think it is relatively low risk and because they don’t want to completely destroy the economy. But governments and scientists are far from 100 per cent sure about anything at present with this virus. They are learning as they go along. Decisions are being made and minds and opinions changed as they go along and learn more. That’s why I’m erring on the side of caution and not continuing even though I know I can.
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Section 4:Going to work.
I thought this was interesting......
"Work carried out in people’s homes, for example by tradespeople carrying out repairs and maintenance, can continue, provided that the tradesperson is well and has no symptoms. Again, it will be important to ensure that Public Health England guidelines, including maintaining a 2 metre distance from any household occupants, are followed to ensure everyone’s safety."
Thats folks working in the home. Would of thought that those working outside pose even less risk whilst following government guidelines.
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Section 4:Going to work.
I thought this was interesting......
"Work carried out in people’s homes, for example by tradespeople carrying out repairs and maintenance, can continue, provided that the tradesperson is well and has no symptoms. Again, it will be important to ensure that Public Health England guidelines, including maintaining a 2 metre distance from any household occupants, are followed to ensure everyone’s safety."
Thats folks working in the home. Would of thought that those working outside pose even less risk whilst following government guidelines.
Depends upon if your boiler is broke ?
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Personally I think to a certain extent we should should trust our own individual instincts on this and not allow governments or scientists to decide for us. They are letting some workers including window cleaners continue because to the best of their knowledge right now they think it is relatively low risk and because they don’t want to completely destroy the economy. But governments and scientists are far from 100 per cent sure about anything at present with this virus. They are learning as they go along. Decisions are being made and minds and opinions changed as they go along and learn more. That’s why I’m erring on the side of caution and not continuing even though I know I can.
Same here. The risk is finding out too late👍. Collateral damage springs to mind!
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Section 4:Going to work.
I thought this was interesting......
"Work carried out in people’s homes, for example by tradespeople carrying out repairs and maintenance, can continue, provided that the tradesperson is well and has no symptoms. Again, it will be important to ensure that Public Health England guidelines, including maintaining a 2 metre distance from any household occupants, are followed to ensure everyone’s safety."
Thats folks working in the home. Would of thought that those working outside pose even less risk whilst following government guidelines.
Depends upon if your boiler is broke ?
Repairs and maintenance
We have maintenance cleans 😉👍
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But I see 'only go to work' as different to 'go to work'.
The guidelines don't say that, Griff.
They say:
"travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
There is no you should go to work. There might be a you can go to work.
Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective and I only pipe up when someone says something daft.
More recently, peoples' reasons for working have prompted me to reply and not that people are working.
It's the people that are working not that people are working, that's the problem.
From section 4 of the government guidelines ...
As set out in the section on staying at home, you can travel for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home.
With the exception of the organisations covered above in the section on closing certain businesses and venues, the government has not required any other businesses to close – indeed it is important for business to carry on.
Do you think that that bit in red is actually a government guideline that it is important to work if your business has not been closed by them?
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Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective
Of course; selfish - self centred people only look at it from their own perspective.
As I say.
Go to work. That's fine.
Or
Stay at home. That's fine too.
Just follow the science-led guidelines and we'll all be safe.
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Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective
Of course; selfish - self centred people only look at it from their own perspective.
As I say.
Go to work. That's fine.
Or
Stay at home. That's fine too.
Just follow the science-led guidelines and we'll all be safe.
I can only follow the guidelines from my perspective. That's why I'm not going to work.
Or I could be really selfish and work and leave the house even though the person that I live with has had some symptoms of coronavirus.
Well done.
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
Do you disinfect your shoes before you enter your home after wading through all that ankle deep CoVid19 when you go to Aldi’s for your fresh fruit ‘n veg?
Na, didn’t think so.
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But I see 'only go to work' as different to 'go to work'.
The guidelines don't say that, Griff.
They say:
"travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others
There is no you should go to work. There might be a you can go to work.
Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective and I only pipe up when someone says something daft.
More recently, peoples' reasons for working have prompted me to reply and not that people are working.
It's the people that are working not that people are working, that's the problem.
From section 4 of the government guidelines ...
As set out in the section on staying at home, you can travel for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home.
With the exception of the organisations covered above in the section on closing certain businesses and venues, the government has not required any other businesses to close – indeed it is important for business to carry on.
Do you think that that bit in red is actually a government guideline that it is important to work if your business has not been closed by them?
Sorry, Malc, you lost me.
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have you lot not worked out that our government advise is realy bad .
other nations are doing better .
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I am absolutely shocked by the amount of people on here still going to work.
I know it is personal choice but surely the chance of infecting one person is totally unnecessary.
Forget the safe 2 metre guidelines what about the vast amount of surfaces you will touch within a days work.
We all move furniture, plants ,open gates, touch doors etc during a days work meaning the potential is there to spread the virus to multiple gardens during a days work.
People are spending more and more time in there gardens during this self isolation period so with all the will in the world it is impossible to gaurantee the virus will not be passed on.
Ultimately who wants this on there conscience.
If the government decide to stich us up on the 80% allowance then that is there bad and would be a massive betrayal to the millions of people doing the right thing and STAYING AT HOME and therefore having 0% of passing or contracting the virus.
Do people not realise the more people that Stay at home the quicker this virus will be eradicated and everyone not just the selfish few can get back to rebuilding the country.
God I’m bored beyond belief but any risk is a risk not worth taking it is after all just window cleaning.
That’s where the supermarket argument has absolutely no point in this argument as without food we die whereas I’ve never seen anybody die of dirty windows
Please please please stay safe guys I know we all have bills to pay but if we save just one life you can not put a price on that.
ive not had a day off from my normal workload since the lockdown and all my work is bang up to date and im ticking over quite nicely at the moment......if there is a stricter lockdown in the future then obviously ill be staying home.....
the government guidelines say "go to work" if you cant work from home but make sure you maintain at least a 2m distance from other people at all times...we need to try and keep the economy going in our own small way......so ill continue for now.....
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Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective
Of course; selfish - self centred people only look at it from their own perspective.
As I say.
Go to work. That's fine.
Or
Stay at home. That's fine too.
Just follow the science-led guidelines and we'll all be safe.
I can only follow the guidelines from my perspective. That's why I'm not going to work.
Or I could be really selfish and work and leave the house even though the person that I live with has had some symptoms of coronavirus.
Well done.
Self isolating for 7 days if you or somebody you are in contact with are showing symptoms is a government guideline Flanders, so you're basically doing what the government tells you but haven't the sense to realise it.
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have you lot not worked out that our government advise is realy bad .
other nations are doing better .
really?like who?italy?,america?spain? ::)roll.........if we have 20,000 dead after 6 months then it will be considered a good outcome.....we re well under that at present.....
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Anyway, I can only look at if from my perspective
Of course; selfish - self centred people only look at it from their own perspective.
As I say.
Go to work. That's fine.
Or
Stay at home. That's fine too.
Just follow the science-led guidelines and we'll all be safe.
I can only follow the guidelines from my perspective. That's why I'm not going to work.
Or I could be really selfish and work and leave the house even though the person that I live with has had some symptoms of coronavirus.
Well done.
Self isolating for 7 days if you or somebody you are in contact with are showing symptoms is a government guideline Flanders, so you're basically doing what the government tells you but haven't the sense to realise it.
Who told me then?
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Do you know what shocked me today . The amount of custys that came out and said . “ I might as well pay you cash as I am in today , saves me doing it online “ Obviously told em to just pay online . And stop chatting crap and slowing me down . Have noticed more work vans on the road ac the week as gone on . A builders merchants nearby as opened back up . All the others still closed .
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Im still taking cash but im wearing gloves change them quite often and wash my hands quite often even with the gloves on ,its ok the bank transfers but i have to chase half my customers for payment its a pain in the rear