Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jay moley on March 01, 2020, 08:05:03 pm
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Does anyone not do insides?
I'm thinking of just doing outside work.
Btw I charge double for insides as it is.
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I never clean insides anymore.....I've always hated cleaning them.....once I lost my last big inside job a few years ago I've vowed never to take anymore on.....the only exception is inside kitchen windows on request (usually
an elderly customer)...free of charge
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Nope never.
Done them before, always regretted it.
It's just horrible.
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Similar to daz. Ive done the odd kitchen window for the old dears and then I have 2 customers who are nice/good customers who periodically I will be asked to clean the insides for. Apart from this, I dont advertise I clean insides as my sub line in "external cleaning services"
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I do loads of inside work , why wouldn't you? Nice and warm ;D
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I have a couple of large offices that are inside only, the outsides are cleaned by others contracted by the landlords.
It’s some of my best paying hourly work.
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I never clean insides anymore.....I've always hated cleaning them.....once I lost my last big inside job a few years ago I've vowed never to take anymore on.....the only exception is inside kitchen windows on request (usually
an elderly customer)...free of charge
Hi Dazmond, hope your keeping well mate, how come you lost your last big inside job a few years ago, just wondering ?
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I never clean insides anymore.....I've always hated cleaning them.....once I lost my last big inside job a few years ago I've vowed never to take anymore on.....the only exception is inside kitchen windows on request (usually
an elderly customer)...free of charge
Hi Dazmond, hope your keeping well mate, how come you lost your last big inside job a few years ago, just wondering ?
i cleaned them for around 5 years or so...another local cleaning company who also do jetwashing,roof cleaning and the like took over....the home owner said it was easier to just stick to one company who offer everything including window cleaning....i agreed with her......i wanted rid anyway as it was PITA......she would often be late after pre arranging and id be sat around for 20 mins or so waiting for her to turn up to let me in(id already cleaned the outside windows)....
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I do them, but charge a fortune, that way, if I get them, it’s actually worth it.
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I do insides on request, and some of my regulars I do insides quite frequently.
I don't have any issues doing them. Comes in handy when the weather's not great.
John
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Yes,me too,alot of newbie wfp window cleaners dont do them because thet dont know how,never picked up a squeegee in their life,
Ha,ha....,thats where the money is!! ;D ;D ;D ???
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I'll do the odd kitchen window or patio door, usually for free.
If any of my custys want all the insides done, i'll do it (but I don't promote it).
I'm doing one very soon for one of best custys.
She's very hot and last time left loads of underwear floating around, I can't really say no!
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i certainly know how to use a squeegee after spending 17 years trad before WFP...i just dont like being in customers houses and having to pre arrange the job....
also its very rare the weather is really bad when the inside jobs due...in fact its more likely to be bright sunshine and im sweating my knackers off..... ;D......it doesnt happen in the real world.......
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Last time I cleaned insides and old bloke had a heart attack and was unconscious and not breathing. I had to give him compressions 15/1 I was taught, now they say it's 30/1. Brought him back round and someone had phoned the ambulance. He was the most thankful person, he was a really nice old boy, had to try, I was lucky as it had only just happened. Thank goodness for first aid training drummed into me every year. I never cleaned insides anymore after that.
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Some of my most lucrative work is inside and out has been for years,if it’s regular they don’t all need a thorough clean every time you do them.
If the jobs 50 inside and out it’ll be 120-150 easy money.
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My god people pay that
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When you do inside and out you are a proper window cleaner in my view ok I don’t do some for weeks on end but that suits me fine,people know the price as a rule for me it’s twice the outside price unless the access indoors is easy but it always works out around that percentage.
When you clean insides it’s a different job fly spots etc they have to be bronze wooled before blading most of them unless it’s every 2 months this time of the year.
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When you do inside and out you are a proper window cleaner in my view ok I don’t do some for weeks on end but that suits me fine,people know the price as a rule for me it’s twice the outside price unless the access indoors is easy but it always works out around that percentage.
When you clean insides it’s a different job fly spots etc they have to be bronze wooled before blading most of them unless it’s every 2 months this time of the year.
What windows do u clean inside which are that bad. Insides are relatively easy, its the moving of furniture or clutter to actually get to the windows. Or feeling uncomfortable working in their bedrooms etc or later being accused of all sorts etc which make it a faff to clean.
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My work is rural Nathan they have dogs Horses so that means flys in the warmer months when the windows are always open slightly,the jobs I have that are in and out are usually bigger places they are well worth the effort.
I think you need to offer a complete window cleaning service as far as the glass goes,I wouldn’t do what they do in America with cleaning out the shuts etc but they will charge a 1000 dollars a job in some cases that are once a year and 2 of them spend a full day doing it,washing all round the frames inside etc I would never offer that but if you are not offering an in and out service you are only saying you’ll provide half a job imo not that I want to do insides all the time but I think you should at least be able to offer that service.
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If you can’t squidge you ain’t a proper window cleaner in my book,and I mean be able to squidge quickly and effectively on all types of glass-windows not just just push a pole up and down.
I earn crap loads more than I ever did or would with a blade with a pole but let’s face it cleaning by hand you need dexterity and skill that has to be learned just like plastering.
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My work is rural Nathan they have dogs Horses so that means flys in the warmer months when the windows are always open slightly,the jobs I have that are in and out are usually bigger places they are well worth the effort.
I think you need to offer a complete window cleaning service as far as the glass goes,I wouldn’t do what they do in America with cleaning out the shuts etc but they will charge a 1000 dollars a job in some cases that are once a year and 2 of them spend a full day doing it,washing all round the frames inside etc I would never offer that but if you are not offering an in and out service you are only saying you’ll provide half a job imo not that I want to do insides all the time but I think you should at least be able to offer that service.
what does it matter anyway whether you refuse insides or not?...i used to take on anything years ago...through trial and error and experience i want the easiest,low stress working day possible so i dont offer inside cleaning anymore.......same with gutter clearing and most conny roofs...i cant be bothered anymore....it doesnt make me any less of a window cleaner! ;D...just a smarter one who picks and chooses what work he wants to do....
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If you do a largish place in and out you can earn a good days money stopping in one place for 5-6 hours Daz with engine off.
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If you can’t squidge you ain’t a proper window cleaner in my book,and I mean be able to squidge quickly and effectively on all types of glass-windows not just just push a pole up and down.
I earn crap loads more than I ever did or would with a blade with a pole but let’s face it cleaning by hand you need dexterity and skill that has to be learned just like plastering.
This always makes me laugh.
Like it's hard to use a squeegee. It's not hard it's just not needed today. Unless of course you do insides, lots of us choose not to because it's a fanny about of a job creeping round someones house in your socks sweating your tits off.. Not for me.
To be fair, its very very rare I've even been asked to do insides. Maybe been asked a dozen times in 5 years. It's not something I ever think about day to day.
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I use my trad tools fairly often Adam, I’ve got a car show room, so inside requires squeegee, and several other jobs that need insides done, but I charge good amounts so it’s worth it.
For me, it’s how I learnt the ‘trade’ so it’s no bother, but I don’t enjoy it.
Once you’ve been wfp, trad becomes a nuisance. To think I did it trad for 8 years before going WFP. I should have gone wfp much earlier than I did (2014).
There is an art to trad cleaning though, I do quite like the fact that a lot of newer window cleaners can’t use trad tools, it does create a small niche area for inside work, but you do have to charge well for it, because it takes ages and is annoying!
You’re right though, you can have a perfectly good round without ever touching a squeegee.
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It doesn’t take ages if you know what you are doing,all window cleaners should be able to use a squeegee end of there are times when you’ll need it,I know one bloke he’s got no tear equipment just an old rag to do a few lanes on the odd door lol.
Yeah it’s easy especially on sunny days like today lol I bet they look lovely when some people have cleaned inside when they don’t know what there doing.
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It doesn’t take ages if you know what you are doing,all window cleaners should be able to use a squeegee end of there are times when you’ll need it,I know one bloke he’s got no tear equipment just an old rag to do a few lanes on the odd door lol.
Yeah it’s easy especially on sunny days like today lol I bet they look lovely when some people have cleaned inside when they don’t know what there doing.
It takes ages in comparison to WFP, the car showroom I do has big tall panes of glass.
Outside takes half hour, inside over an hour. It’s a faff. Wfp is always going to be easier and much more efficient, hence why so many newbies never bother to learn.
I clean a fair few offices inside and out, the inside takes way longer, Having to move stuff out the way, climb over tables, detail the edges, wipe the frame and/or ledge.
Inside work is just much more annoying than water fed poling the outside. That’s why I charge more for insides personally.
I do think all window cleaners should be able to use a squeegee too, but as I said, I don’t actually mind, means more work for the guys that can use trad tools. Also means you can charge more as there is that bit less competition.
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Garages are a piece of pee with a wagtail much easier than WFP again if you know what your doing,you won’t beat a Wagtail for speed on windows especially big panes like garage showrooms like you are talking about.
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Wrong, they have small side glass panels next to each pane, they also have large metal support points near the edges of each pane which makes using a wagtail a mare.
Mate you need to to stop assuming.
If you want to meet me there one day and we have a race, you on a wagtail, me with a WFP you’ll be embarrassed.
Stop making assumptions, WFP is far far quicker, how do I know? Because unlike you, I’m the one that cleans the job, not you 😎
Wfp is almost always quicker than trad. Almost no exceptions. That’s the main point.
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I hate cleaning inside windows that much that I lost a nice domestic job a few years ago because I refused to do them......they took me back on last year after a 5 year hiatus(outside only)....
They had 2 trad lads cleaning theirs....I dont know what happened to them.....
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I'm full commercial inside and trad work are sometimes a daily occurrence for me.If I didn't do them I would have to go back to houses.
When the weather is really bad like it has been lately the insides of a nice big office can be a welcome relief.
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The thing is you're the boss.
Each of us can decide whether to clean insides or not.
What suits one won't suit the other.
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I know WFP is quicker on 99% of work I would never go back to trad obviously but imo you must be able to use a mop and blade or you are just a window sweeper lol.
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It’s tragic to watch some people using a squeegee.
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I know WFP is quicker on 99% of work I would never go back to trad obviously but imo you must be able to use a mop and blade or you are just a window sweeper lol.
I agree, i think it’s very important to be able to use trad tools, most of the newer guys never bother, more work for us who can use them!
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Being a window cleaner and not being able to use a squeegee is like being a barber and not being able to use clippers.
You’ll no doubt be able to make a decent living but you’ll be restricting yourself from being able to take on well paying internal commercial jobs.
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I avoid them like the plague.
I did one for a bank manager once (assume respectability) dirty knickers all over the bedroom floor along with used condoms.
Ghastly, never again!
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Just collect the knickers you can get right in the corners with them lol.