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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: The Jester of Wibbly on March 01, 2020, 05:38:11 pm
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Wonder at what stage this will effect our industry? With all the contact we have with the public throughout the day.
Commercial, residential and general public.
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This thread is as much as its ever going to affect my work.
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Slacky, love it!
I have seen one joker trying to market roof cleaning and softwashing as a corona virus prevention. Hilarious.
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Wonder at what stage this will effect our industry? With all the contact we have with the public throughout the day.
Commercial, residential and general public.
No more and no less than the risk to anybody else. What do you do when you are not working ?... sit safely at home behind a bolted door in a sterile environment with no interaction with family, friends or the outside world ? We've as much or as little chance of picking up an infection as anybody and no different to the chances of catching a cold. The media is fuelling paranoia and hysteria. If We were all more aware of how infections are spread and practised a good level of hygiene it wouldn't be such an issue.
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I've had 3 cancellations because of it!
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Wonder at what stage this will effect our industry? With all the contact we have with the public throughout the day.
Commercial, residential and general public.
Carry on as normal......the economy cant ground to a halt just because of a virus......
This virus was predicted too in a novel written in 1980.....Dean Kootz
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I've had 3 cancellations because of it!
That's just ridiculous. They were just waiting for a 'credible' excuse to skip a clean. What do you do, greet them at the door with a hug and blow your nose on their curtains ? 🤧😷
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Well it won't affect me anywhere near as much as the vast majority of people who go to work... With other people.
I clean windows, very rare I come into contact with anyone when I'm out. Just clean and stick a note in. Try not to talk to customers where possible.
But if it gets really bad then it will affect all businesses badly if everyone is off sick or having to close places down.
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You have no way of preventingbcatching it as its air born and not just breathing it in and so the instant sales of facial masks is pointless.
Very similar to myself, i have a hand sterilizer spray in van that I constantly use.
It will just have to be one of those hurdles that you have to negotiate at that particular time i suppose
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I've had 3 cancellations because of it!
😂😂😂😂
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I've had 3 cancellations because of it!
They'd better be dead (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1583110528_angry[1].gif).
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Look at these stats for ordinary influenza - In total, 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalised and 61,200 died. Don't panic!
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I think flu kills 0.01 % of the population
Coronavirus is 2% death rate
I think I ve read (Maybe wrong🤔)
All these figures sound minute
But is there 7.7 billion people on the planet
So possibly 144 million deaths?
Think there’s 195 countries
So an even spread would be around
1 million 3 hundred thousand each country
Maybe wrong on figures just googling 🤔
That’s more than world war 1 and 2 put together which was under 100 million internet says
How bad was swine flu can’t remember now
Did it create the same hysteria
10+ years ago
Internet is on most people’s phones now
Also most on social media
Bad news and false news travels very fast nowadays 🦠😷🤔
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Sorry 🙆🏻♂️🦠
Got my maths 738 thousand odd
Evenly over 195 countries
Sorry to sensationalise 😷
I wonder if thunder snow ⛄️ can kill
The 🦠 virus
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The Tyre Services in the industrial unit next to mine has been told by his supplier that after 6 weeks they can not guarantee deliveries as the supply from South Korea and Italy has stoped. :(
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Where is resin manufactured?
Hope its not China
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The worry became quite real for our family due to no fault of our own and it really made us think twice about how Covid-19 can effect us.
So my youngest daughter gets invited to a swimming party with her friends. The father of one of the girls offered to take three girls in his car and my wife used her car as well. A few days later we get a call from the guy's wife to let us know that he has been admitted to hospital with suspect Covid -19 Apparently he had just returned from a business trip from Italy earlier that week. Our local health workers contacted us to ask us to self quarantine until the results came back. Of course our whole family started to get paranoid and any cough or tickle became quite worrying. So Sunday came and we get the all clear because the guy has just got the normal strain of influenza.
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Well it won't affect me anywhere near as much as the vast majority of people who go to work... With other people.
I clean windows, very rare I come into contact with anyone when I'm out. Just clean and stick a note in. Try not to talk to customers where possible.
But if it gets really bad then it will affect all businesses badly if everyone is off sick or having to close places down.
Exactly, commuters using public transport are at far greater risk to it than ourselves.
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Look at these stats for ordinary influenza - In total, 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalised and 61,200 died. Don't panic!
The worry became quite real for our family due to no fault of our own and it really made us think twice about how Covid-19 can effect us.
So my youngest daughter gets invited to a swimming party with her friends. The father of one of the girls offered to take three girls in his car and my wife used her car as well. A few days later we get a call from the guy's wife to let us know that he has been admitted to hospital with suspect Covid -19 Apparently he had just returned from a business trip from Italy earlier that week. Our local health workers contacted us to ask us to self quarantine until the results came back. Of course our whole family started to get paranoid and any cough or tickle became quite worrying. So Sunday came and we get the all clear because the guy has just got the normal strain of influenza.
Yep, dont panick unless your affected! All the stats in the world wouldnt stop you from panicking so dont try n play it down with stats.
This thing may or may not get bigger yet. There is nothing wrong with being careful as long as your sensible and not overly paranoid and all walking around in an inflatable bubble
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An old biddy serving in a local petrol station had a dust mask on while she was sat there serving at the till yesterday and I was having a haircut in local Kurdish barber shop on Saturday and overheard a British born guy in his twenties probably of Pakistani heritage say that it's Allah's way of punishing the Chinese for persecution of Chinese muslims :o ;D
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I repair, refurbish and build old computers like the good old ZX Spectrum. Components from China are all on hold and running dry
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Wont Norton Anti-Virus resolve the pc supply issue?
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Wont Norton Anti-Virus resolve the pc supply issue?
;D ;D ;D
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Where is resin manufactured?
Hope its not China
India
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Where is resin manufactured?
Hope its not China
India
Chernobyl
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Its not the practical side of things we have to worry about, we can quite easily clean a house and have no contact with anyone, they can easily pay on line. But if people think we' re going to be unaffected they've got a nasty shock coming to them. If we follow other countries examples then isolation , banning of public events etc will follow and ultimately alot of people in other work sectors wont be able to work and that will impact us. If the moneys not coming in, people will cut back and window cleaning is a luxury people can do without. Add public paranoia to the mix and we will be getting cancellations.
As for just putting it down to sensationalism , some people need to wake up. Never in my lifetime have worldwide governments acted in this way, and its becoming clearer why. The mortality rate of flu varies but is about 0.15 %, So far coronavirus its 3.5% and that figure will only rise as its based on figures of people who still have it and so may add to the amount of fatalities. Add in the mix that there are serious doubts as to the accuracy of death figures given by china and Iran then that figure is only going to get higher. We're on the verge of something quite extraordinary. It looks like everyones life is going to be affected one way or another.
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Two school kids brought coronavirus back with them from Italy on their school half term holidays and six schools closed today here. One of my customers is a teacher and came in contact with one of the pupils infected and she and her husband are confined to home for a couple weeks so I will be blocking their drive tomorrow to clean their place and six others either side for the morning and popping a bill through them all as they all pay by bank transfer anyway so need to catch their germs at the door
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Its not the practical side of things we have to worry about, we can quite easily clean a house and have no contact with anyone, they can easily pay on line. But if people think we' re going to be unaffected they've got a nasty shock coming to them. If we follow other countries examples then isolation , banning of public events etc will follow and ultimately alot of people in other work sectors wont be able to work and that will impact us. If the moneys not coming in, people will cut back and window cleaning is a luxury people can do without. Add public paranoia to the mix and we will be getting cancellations.
As for just putting it down to sensationalism , some people need to wake up. Never in my lifetime have worldwide governments acted in this way, and its becoming clearer why. The mortality rate of flu varies but is about 0.15 %, So far coronavirus its 3.5% and that figure will only rise as its based on figures of people who still have it and so may add to the amount of fatalities. Add in the mix that there are serious doubts as to the accuracy of death figures given by china and Iran then that figure is only going to get higher. We're on the verge of something quite extraordinary. It looks like everyones life is going to be affected one way or another.
Now you've put it that way you may well be right. My reply was specifically to Jester's first post that on the surface sounded like an over reaction. Truth is, if it gets to the stage where it affects us in our businesses then its already affecting everybody. we'll all be screwed.
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Achooo....
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Its not the practical side of things we have to worry about, we can quite easily clean a house and have no contact with anyone, they can easily pay on line. But if people think we' re going to be unaffected they've got a nasty shock coming to them. If we follow other countries examples then isolation , banning of public events etc will follow and ultimately alot of people in other work sectors wont be able to work and that will impact us. If the moneys not coming in, people will cut back and window cleaning is a luxury people can do without. Add public paranoia to the mix and we will be getting cancellations.
As for just putting it down to sensationalism , some people need to wake up. Never in my lifetime have worldwide governments acted in this way, and its becoming clearer why. The mortality rate of flu varies but is about 0.15 %, So far coronavirus its 3.5% and that figure will only rise as its based on figures of people who still have it and so may add to the amount of fatalities. Add in the mix that there are serious doubts as to the accuracy of death figures given by china and Iran then that figure is only going to get higher. We're on the verge of something quite extraordinary. It looks like everyones life is going to be affected one way or another.
Yawn ::)roll
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This thing is gonna get worse before it gets any better thats for sure.
They are not in a hurry to make a vaccine thats for sure. They lost too much money on the last one, was it the swine flu that? By the time they had it for market, it had died down a conciderable amount and they lost millions. They wont make that mistake in a hurry, unless they know they have a huge investment/return on it.
Its already spreading to people who have not been abroad etc and by time you realise you have it, you have already passed it onto X amount of people etc.
Its already had an impact on the economy (maybe not ours at the moment) and the internet market lol. Never mind the stock echange
Then we have the flooded farmers fields etc etc so that has to have an impact and finally we have the eco system n environmental changes coming in which we have all felt since december of last year.
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The mortality rate of flu varies but is about 0.15 %, So far coronavirus its 3.5% and that figure will only rise as its based on figures of people who still have it and so may add to the amount of fatalities. Add in the mix that there are serious doubts as to the accuracy of death figures given by china and Iran then that figure is only going to get higher.
All of that made me smile. But "mortality rate" means "death rate". If your quoted figure for Coronovirus is 3.5%, and like you say its based on people who still have it ? ;D Can you see where we are going here ? Who is giving you these figures, its OK to say, i suspect its Tosh ?
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just crack on,put your prices up and carry on working.....as long as it doesnt affect my holiday to greece in may i dont care.... ;D
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51 people infected out of 67 million people at present in the uk......get a grip!
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I'm gonna work from home! :P
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In 6 months, it will all be a distant memory and I can go back to worrying about the spots on my bum!
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In 6 months, it will all be a distant memory and I can go back to worrying about the spots on my bum!
"spots on the bum"? Thats the 1st sign of coronavirus!
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And I've got a holiday booked to northern Italy in July.....doubt I'll be going there then.
Mind you we all might end up locked down eating tins of cold beans with no business to go back to anyway.
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And I've got a holiday booked to northern Italy in July.....doubt I'll be going there then.
Mind you we all might end up locked down eating tins of cold beans with no business to go back to anyway.
Its the inconvenience and loss of earnings in a lockdown situation thats concerning me more than catching the bloody thing. Thinking on an end of season last minute ski holiday, but will be very last minute now. I'm going to see how the next couple of weeks play out first. A friend is already cancelling his to Italian Alps, although if the worst was to happen to him it could be a concern ( ex firefighter with lung condition ).
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Government released a statement today suggesting in a worse case scenario 20% of the working population could be out of action at any one time. Police forces stretched and only responding to serious crime. Petty crims are gonna have a field day. Supermarket shelves will be running out and looting will be rife. Keep calm though, Boris has got this one ! ::)roll
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Government released a statement today suggesting in a worse case scenario 20% of the working population could be out of action at any one time. Police forces stretched and only responding to serious crime. Petty crims are gonna have a field day. Supermarket shelves will be running out and looting will be rife. Keep calm though, Boris has got this one ! ::)roll
Thats the case for Police forces right now as it is ?
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And I've got a holiday booked to northern Italy in July.....doubt I'll be going there then.
Mind you we all might end up locked down eating tins of cold beans with no business to go back to anyway.
Its the inconvenience and loss of earnings in a lockdown situation thats concerning me more than catching the bloody thing. Thinking on an end of season last minute ski holiday, but will be very last minute now. I'm going to see how the next couple of weeks play out first. A friend is already cancelling his to Italian Alps, although if the worst was to happen to him it could be a concern ( ex firefighter with lung condition ).
I was going to lake garda which is about the exact area of the biggest outbreak in Europe. Typical lol. All paid for as well don't know if we will be able to get any money back on that. Don't think anyone knows what the situation is regarding disrupted travel yet.
But you are right, what's more concerning is what will happen to out businesses in a huge outbreak. People being forced not to work could see them cancel our services rather quickly.
It's going to be tough for a lot of businesses if this really kicks off.
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I was going to lake garda which is about the exact area of the biggest outbreak in Europe. Typical lol. All paid for as well don't know if we will be able to get any money back on that. Don't think anyone knows what the situation is regarding disrupted travel yet.
You can get a refund from your airline if they’ve cancelled the flights or if the government has declared the area at risk and advised not to go there.
Pretty sure it’s the same for your hotel.
Be worth listening to this in regards to what your travel insurance covers you for:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p085f0h0
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Itll probably be nowhere near as bad as they fear.....
Asking doctors and nurses to come out of retirement to help out?I doubt that will happen!they are the most at risk group due to their age...they've worked hard enough over the years!one of my customers I cleaned yesterday is a retired nurse...no way would she go back!.....I dont blame her...
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
Yep......their whipping it up into a huge project FEAR........ ::)roll
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
It goes to show how many people dont wash their hands, with soap stocks depleating. When did you ever see a soap shelve empty or near empty lol
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
Yep......their whipping it up into a huge project FEAR........ ::)roll
I agree. But in the unlikely event the fears do become a reality its going to be complete chaos thanks in part to all this scaremainering.
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Don't worry about anyone with Lung/heart conditions, looting, no food in shops etc, as long as Daz can get to Greece in May everything will be well in the world ;D ;D
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
It goes to show how many people dont wash their hands, with soap stocks depleating. When did you ever see a soap shelve empty or near empty lol
Let's face it, we've all been in public bogs and seen how many people walk out without washing their hands. When I worked at anglian water, I had to visit a kebab shop to read a meter that was situated in the toilet at the back of the shop. I had to wait for a member of staff to finish what was obviously a dump and heard him stand up, pull his trousers up flush the loo and walk straight out without washing only to serve a customer at the counter!! I'm delighted people are buying soap/sanitizer.
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
At least there's a rational to buying sanitizer, tissues etc. Some of what's going on is plain barking. The makers of corona beer have confirmed they've lost 132 million through this, mostly down to the Chinese not buying but also American and European markets. A survey was carried out of 700+ beer drinkers in the USA and 37% said "they wouldn't drink it under any circumstances". Its just mental. A real advert for why the general public shouldn't get to vote in referendums.
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
At least there's a rational to buying sanitizer, tissues etc. Some of what's going on is plain barking. The makers of corona beer have confirmed they've lost 132 million through this, mostly down to the Chinese not buying but also American and European markets. A survey was carried out of 700+ beer drinkers in the USA who said "they wouldn't drink it under any circumstances". Its just mental. A real advert for why the general public shouldn't get to vote in referendums.
Hasnt trump reduced inflation rate to help save the economy and all our great leader does is tell us to wash our hands lol
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The media monsters have already created hysteria and panic buying. The huge 24 hrs Tesco near me has absolutely no hand sanitiser gel of any brand on the shelves. Signs up advising no re stock for 4 days.
This has potential to be bigger than the millennium bug 😂
It goes to show how many people dont wash their hands, with soap stocks depleating. When did you ever see a soap shelve empty or near empty lol
Let's face it, we've all been in public bogs and seen how many people walk out without washing their hands. When I worked at anglian water, I had to visit a kebab shop to read a meter that was situated in the toilet at the back of the shop. I had to wait for a member of staff to finish what was obviously a dump and heard him stand up, pull his trousers up flush the loo and walk straight out without washing only to serve a customer at the counter!! I'm delighted people are buying soap/sanitizer.
Yep. I had a cheeky maccy D breakfast this morning after the Tesco next door had no sanitiser ( I'm not paranoid BTW, it's just routine to have it in van working with hoses outdoors ). Anyways, business man at table, blowing nose in to a manky screwed up tissue that he stuffs back in his pocket and proceeds to sit down, touching, chairs, table etc..... Perfect example of how to contanimate. I always wash my hands, know many don't, certainly avoid touching toilet door handles 😁😷😷
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I thought the virus was air borne, if so your more likely to catch it down some sweaty gym.
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I thought the virus was air borne, if so your more likely to catch it down some sweaty gym.
Absolutely so your skin and even eye sockets etc can absorb it and thats buying a mask that covers the nose n mouth is useless.
Haha washing hands n scaring people to do so is certainly a step in the right direction but the campaign to save britain from the virus by simply washing your hands is a joke.
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lets just say this coronavirus gets out of hand or even if your involved with a head on and die ask yourself this, what happens to your work ????? how many of you have discussed with a partner or parents, kids what to do with it ? where to sell it , what your pass word is for your online work detail ??? ect ect
if you have 4k a month plus gear it could be worth 30k what are they going to do with it ?
money isnt everything in life but 30k could keep your love ones a float to help them out with costs , losing a good wage over night and having the bills roll in with out that hurts big time
trying sorting a funnel while walking pass your husbands van on the drive , add in people on the phone asking where your at , then add in worrying how the morage is getting paid next month for a loved one this stuff is the night mare of night mares let alone if you havnt made a will and your not married
all joking aside ask youself what would you loved one do ?
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lets just say this coronavirus gets out of hand or even if your involved with a head on and die ask yourself this, what happens to your work ????? how many of you have discussed with a partner or parents, kids what to do with it ? where to sell it , what your pass word is for your online work detail ??? ect ect
if you have 4k a month plus gear it could be worth 30k what are they going to do with it ?
money isnt everything in life but 30k could keep your love ones a float to help them out with costs , losing a good wage over night and having the bills roll in with out that hurts big time
trying sorting a funnel while walking pass your husbands van on the drive , add in people on the phone asking where your at , then add in worrying how the morage is getting paid next month for a loved one this stuff is the night mare of night mares let alone if you havnt made a will and your not married
all joking aside ask youself what would you loved one do ?
Life insurance.
I’m worth more dead than I am alive that’s for sure.
;D
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lets just say this coronavirus gets out of hand or even if your involved with a head on and die ask yourself this, what happens to your work ????? how many of you have discussed with a partner or parents, kids what to do with it ? where to sell it , what your pass word is for your online work detail ??? ect ect
if you have 4k a month plus gear it could be worth 30k what are they going to do with it ?
money isnt everything in life but 30k could keep your love ones a float to help them out with costs , losing a good wage over night and having the bills roll in with out that hurts big time
trying sorting a funnel while walking pass your husbands van on the drive , add in people on the phone asking where your at , then add in worrying how the morage is getting paid next month for a loved one this stuff is the night mare of night mares let alone if you havnt made a will and your not married
all joking aside ask youself what would you loved one do ?
Life insurance.
I’m worth more dead than I am alive that’s for sure.
;D
cool still what about your work ? while your insurance and its pay out goes into probate how the bills getting paid ? even if this deosnt happen why throw 30k away is what i am saying if nobody knows what to do with it all is just dies or a so called mate swans in a buys it for nothing
i seen this happen just last year was very sad to see a fellow window cleaner rip a widow off
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lets just say this coronavirus gets out of hand or even if your involved with a head on and die ask yourself this, what happens to your work ????? how many of you have discussed with a partner or parents, kids what to do with it ? where to sell it , what your pass word is for your online work detail ??? ect ect
if you have 4k a month plus gear it could be worth 30k what are they going to do with it ?
money isnt everything in life but 30k could keep your love ones a float to help them out with costs , losing a good wage over night and having the bills roll in with out that hurts big time
trying sorting a funnel while walking pass your husbands van on the drive , add in people on the phone asking where your at , then add in worrying how the morage is getting paid next month for a loved one this stuff is the night mare of night mares let alone if you havnt made a will and your not married
all joking aside ask youself what would you loved one do ?
Life insurance.
I’m worth more dead than I am alive that’s for sure.
;D
cool still what about your work ? while your insurance and its pay out goes into probate how the bills getting paid ? even if this deosnt happen why throw 30k away is what i am saying if nobody knows what to do with it all is just dies or a so called mate swans in a buys it for nothing
i seen this happen just last year was very sad to see a fellow window cleaner rip a widow off
Your next of kin should definitely know how the business works and how to Atleast sell it on.
The difficult bit I bet is knowing the work. Round software will help, and not having work written as.......”Susan’s” or “Susan’s office”.
I agree with your point. 👍
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It's clearly becoming an issue out there. At least it's a change from Brexit talk
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I thought the virus was air borne, if so your more likely to catch it down some sweaty gym.
I read that drum kits are a super spreader - plus flights and 5 star hotels are notorious for a lack of hygiene
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If I die I’ve left it with the butler to sort out.
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This has developed a lot over the last few days, so think this is going to get very serious very soon.
Even delivery companies are being turned away from homes or asking if the handheld has been cleaned.
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Even delivery companies are being turned away from homes or aski g if the handheld has been cleaned.
Oh, thats simply terrible.
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I was not paying too much attention to it really and I don’t watch the news but I can tell it’s becoming a huge deal because I’m constantly hearing about it now.
I hope it won’t effect my canvassing and trying to build my round as I was planning on doing a lot more canvassing from end of March. Would you guys say canvassing would be a bad idea while this virus is going on?
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How could it possibly affect your canvassing?
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How could it possibly affect your canvassing?
If he’s coughing while doing his canvassing speech?
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I was not paying too much attention to it really and I don’t watch the news but I can tell it’s becoming a huge deal because I’m constantly hearing about it now.
I hope it won’t effect my canvassing and trying to build my round as I was planning on doing a lot more canvassing from end of March. Would you guys say canvassing would be a bad idea while this virus is going on?
Wear a mask when knocking on doors.........the hannibal lector masks are the best for keeping u and them safe!👍
Or even a scream mask will offer some protection.....
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Thats me sorted ;D ;D
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Why has he (please don’t tell me that’s you in the photo Nathan) got deodorant all over his suit?
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How could it possibly affect your canvassing?
If he’s coughing while doing his canvassing speech?
If that were to be an issue he’d also have to have contracted COVID19.
Otherwise if that weren’t that case he wouldn’t be able to go shopping, down the pub, the library, to work, do the gardening, take the dog for a walk, go out for a walk, visit friends or family, go to the doctors bla bla bla......
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How could it possibly affect your canvassing?
I meant it possibly being harder to get customers with all the hysteria around it all. People worrying about the spread of it, businesses possibly being effected etc.
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I still don't understand why that would stop you canvassing.
Is this media driven panic about COVID19 affecting any other areas of your life?
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
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I still don't understand why that would stop you canvassing.
Is this media driven panic about COVID19 affecting any other areas of your life?
I’m not worried about catching the virus lol I was asking about customers possibly being tougher to get but guess I’ll find out anyways
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
Best case scenario, next year for public consumption.
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
Best case scenario, next year for public consumption.
Those who have to self isolate and have cats at home be aware that the virus can and has been passed on to pet cats with some sadly dying at home as the human goes through the different stages of illness in isolation. If it's not a house cat I guess you could just let it out the door and ask neighbors via facebook to put food and water out for it. If it's a house cat then sadly it may not recover while your sick with the virus at home :'(
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I hope this is right
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
Best case scenario, next year for public consumption.
Those who have to self isolate and have cats at home be aware that the virus can and has been passed on to pet cats with some sadly dying at home as the human goes through the different stages of illness in isolation. If it's not a house cat I guess you could just let it out the door and ask neighbors via facebook to put food and water out for it. If it's a house cat then sadly it may not recover while your sick with the virus at home :'(
Have you got a link for this information? I would’ve thought it’d be all over the news if this has happened ???
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
Best case scenario, next year for public consumption.
Those who have to self isolate and have cats at home be aware that the virus can and has been passed on to pet cats with some sadly dying at home as the human goes through the different stages of illness in isolation. If it's not a house cat I guess you could just let it out the door and ask neighbors via facebook to put food and water out for it. If it's a house cat then sadly it may not recover while your sick with the virus at home :'(
Have you got a link for this information? I would’ve thought it’d be all over the news if this has happened ???
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/what-its-really-like-to-catch-coronavirus-first-british-victim-25-describes-how-worst-disease-he-ever-had-left-him-sweating-shivering-and-struggling-to-breathe-as-his-eyes-burned-and-bones-ached/ar-BB10M6p4?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=U143DHP
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
Best case scenario, next year for public consumption.
Those who have to self isolate and have cats at home be aware that the virus can and has been passed on to pet cats with some sadly dying at home as the human goes through the different stages of illness in isolation. If it's not a house cat I guess you could just let it out the door and ask neighbors via facebook to put food and water out for it. If it's a house cat then sadly it may not recover while your sick with the virus at home :'(
Have you got a link for this information? I would’ve thought it’d be all over the news if this has happened ???
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/what-its-really-like-to-catch-coronavirus-first-british-victim-25-describes-how-worst-disease-he-ever-had-left-him-sweating-shivering-and-struggling-to-breathe-as-his-eyes-burned-and-bones-ached/ar-BB10M6p4?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=U143DHP
I think your jumping the gun there Simon , this bloke said a kitten (possibly a stray kitten outside his apartment!) hanging around his apartment has died
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UK Scientists are supposedly to be trialing a vaccine from next week. If they needed volunteers to infect then trial the vaccine on how many of you would offer to be guinea pigs to possibly benefit the rest of the world population?? ;D
Best case scenario, next year for public consumption.
Those who have to self isolate and have cats at home be aware that the virus can and has been passed on to pet cats with some sadly dying at home as the human goes through the different stages of illness in isolation. If it's not a house cat I guess you could just let it out the door and ask neighbors via facebook to put food and water out for it. If it's a house cat then sadly it may not recover while your sick with the virus at home :'(
Have you got a link for this information? I would’ve thought it’d be all over the news if this has happened ???
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/what-its-really-like-to-catch-coronavirus-first-british-victim-25-describes-how-worst-disease-he-ever-had-left-him-sweating-shivering-and-struggling-to-breathe-as-his-eyes-burned-and-bones-ached/ar-BB10M6p4?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=U143DHP
I think your jumping the gun there Simon , this bloke said a kitten (possibly a stray kitten outside his apartment!) hanging around his apartment has died
It was just said tongue in cheek shrek I wasn't about to swear on the bible that we can kill our cats with the coronavirus but anyway let's just wait and see.
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It was a good read anyway :)
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I hope this is right
W.H.O. Website.
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You could probably catch Aids in the front of my van sometimes.
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You could probably catch Aids in the front of my van sometimes.
Well next time you pick up another hitchhiker bloke , use protection.
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I hope this is right
It was on the internet. Of course it is right.
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Well it's happened...
Customer says please leave it till after the virus has cleared.
Had one ask me to wipe down the gate handle when done.
Had a fair few talking about it, even before the weather chit chat.
Probably an easy excuse to skip.
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Well it's happened...
Customer says please leave it till after the virus has cleared.
Had one ask me to wipe down the gate handle when done.
Had a fair few talking about it, even before the weather chit chat.
Probably an easy excuse to skip.
well i wouldnt be going back...its a ridiculous excuse IMO......WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?TAKE 2 MONTHS OFF?.......
crack on as normal....
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Might put a notice on my face book page.
As of today I am corona virus free. Thankfully if you hire me you pay via direct debit and I will text before coming. Your windows will be cleaned and payment made without human contact!
Doing my part to help prevent the spread of the virus!
;D ;D ;D
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Yep. We are cleaning germs of your windows. ;D ;D
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There will be lots of people cancelling if this really takes hold. If they close schools some people wont be able to work.
We will be the first luxury expense to go if things get tight.
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Haha washing hands n scaring people to do so is certainly a step in the right direction but the campaign to save britain from the virus by simply washing your hands is a joke.
The point of handwashing (and other various steps the government might take) is not to "save Britain from the virus" but to slow the rate at which people become infected. If that's done successfully then the NHS won't be overwhelmed by a sudden flood of patients. Instead the infections will be spread over a longer time with a lower peak. That's the aim of the handwashing campaign.
For the people poo-poohing this: you'll lose someone you know to this virus. It'll probably not be you in the grave but with a 3%ish mortality rate you'll certainly know someone who dies from it within the next year or so. If washing hands spreads out the load on the NHS so they can treat people properly and more people survive it, it seems a very small price to pay. It's hardly panicking to take basic hygiene seriously.
Vin
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At least there's a rational to buying sanitizer, tissues etc. Some of what's going on is plain barking. The makers of corona beer have confirmed they've lost 132 million through this, mostly down to the Chinese not buying but also American and European markets. A survey was carried out of 700+ beer drinkers in the USA and 37% said "they wouldn't drink it under any circumstances". Its just mental. A real advert for why the general public shouldn't get to vote in referendums.
Not so: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/corona-beer-fear-coronavirus/
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At least there's a rational to buying sanitizer, tissues etc. Some of what's going on is plain barking. The makers of corona beer have confirmed they've lost 132 million through this, mostly down to the Chinese not buying but also American and European markets. A survey was carried out of 700+ beer drinkers in the USA and 37% said "they wouldn't drink it under any circumstances". Its just mental. A real advert for why the general public shouldn't get to vote in referendums.
Not so: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/corona-beer-fear-coronavirus/
Fancied a beer before the gig tonight, Mrs Soupy only likes Corona so I thought I'd get that. Sold out.
Panic buying eh.
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Just seen on the news that retailers want help from government to compensate for loss of trade and staff sick pay during the virus.
If that happens I hope they help all self employed people too.
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Think about that, because theyre not going to print money.
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Crack on and keep putting your prices up....
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As Iong as we get the same treatment as other businesses, either way, i dont care. Just bugs me we get treated different to ant other business out there.
Happy to plod on and accept any losses worst case senerio. So should any other businesses out there instead of crying to to the government.
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There will be lots of people cancelling if this really takes hold. If they close schools some people wont be able to work.
We will be the first luxury expense to go if things get tight.
I’m concerned about this aswell
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There will be lots of people cancelling if this really takes hold. If they close schools some people wont be able to work.
We will be the first luxury expense to go if things get tight.
I’m concerned about this aswell
Probably will be the opposite. Many will be working from home, and will take more notice that they have dirty windows and need a wc.
Win some, lose some
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There will be lots of people cancelling if this really takes hold. If they close schools some people wont be able to work.
We will be the first luxury expense to go if things get tight.
I’m concerned about this aswell
Probably will be the opposite. Many will be working from home, and will take more notice that they have dirty windows and need a wc.
Win some, lose some
Hope so mate, I’m planning on starting canvassing again in the next few weeks aswell so I’m hoping I can pick up new customers too as I’m still building.
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There will be lots of people cancelling if this really takes hold. If they close schools some people wont be able to work.
We will be the first luxury expense to go if things get tight.
This glass is half empty.
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Probably will be the opposite. Many will be working from home, and will take more notice that they have dirty windows and need a wc.
This glass is half full.
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This glass is the wrong size for the amount of water in it.
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This glass is the wrong size for the amount of water in it.
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The glass is always full, its just not full of the same substance!!
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I've recently started taking precautions by not accepting Tea/Coffee or French Kisses from customers.
But i've reassured customers that service will return to normal once the UK is given the all clear.
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Yep. I have done the same. Also no hand shakes, I always hold the card reader now. I also now refuse to do insides. What a great excuses to have :)
We now have to take this seriously with the new self isolation rule if you develop a cough or tempurarure.
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I'm still accepting tea and coffee and cash but most customers pay online these days so it's only a few here and there...I am washing my hands more though....and using my card machine more....nothing else I can do really
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Yep. I have done the same. Also no hand shakes, I always hold the card reader now. I also now refuse to do insides. What a great excuses to have :)
We now have to take this seriously with the new self isolarion rule if you develop a cough or tempurarure.
How can you hold the card reader when they have to put their pin number in for jobs over £30?you cant......
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So much has developed over the last week or so. Can't imagine where we will be in 7 days time from now.
I have had a couple of commercial jobs cancelled including a school that was booked in over Easter. I think we have to be financially prepared if we were to self isolate if we catch a cold, or if the UK goes into lock down. We're only 13 days behind Italy's trend.
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Yep. I have done the same. Also no hand shakes, I always hold the card reader now. I also now refuse to do insides. What a great excuses to have :)
We now have to take this seriously with the new self isolarion rule if you develop a cough or tempurarure.
How can you hold the card reader when they have to put their pin number in for jobs over £30?you cant......
You lot hated my advert to say about direct debit payments.............yet the point is the same. I dont require human contact to get payment for my work.....its as simple as that
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So, how's everyone feeling?
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So, how's everyone feeling?
Bit of a persistent cough actually but I'll be alright for work tomorrow got insides all day in an OAP day centre
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Iv had a cough for about a week, proper awkward when I feel a cough coming and see the customer unlocking their door to come and talk to me 😷
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Food shopping in Tesco yesterday at 11am and half the shelves were empty and it was mad busy....tillgirl said it's been like this since 6am.......people are seriously panicking now...... ::)roll
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IMO the media need to tone down the language being used.....
The death toll SOARED to 21 yesterday.......21 people out of 67 million people....... ::)roll
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IMO the media need to tone down the language being used.....
The death toll SOARED to 21 yesterday.......21 people out of 67 million people....... ::)roll
I agree but good news doesnt sell. Its more important for them to sell the negatives rather than the positives
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IMO the media need to tone down the language being used.....
The death toll SOARED to 21 yesterday.......21 people out of 67 million people....... ::)roll
Hard to disagree with that.
Facebook isn't helping either.
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The government is bringing in legislation to be able to shut down mass gatherings,shut all shops,cafes,bars,clubs,leisure centres,airports and to shut borders,etc......
Asking people over 70s to self isolate for up to 4 MONTHS is going to cause a big backlash and open rebellion....not a chance!!!!
My dad will be dead soon anyway(he has stage 4 lung cancer)....theres no way he can stay in for 4 days nevermind 4 months......he likes to get out if he s well enough even if it's only for an hour or two.....
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Here's what you look out for.
What Happens When You're Infected With Corona virus?
https://youtu.be/MyQj1HtWTEo
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IMO the media need to tone down the language being used.....
The death toll SOARED to 21 yesterday.......21 people out of 67 million people....... ::)roll
Do you know what the word 'exponential' means?
You know that the Harold Shipman might have a higher body count - at present - but it's not going to end that way.
Not for many elderly or those for those underlying health problems.
And if you need treatment for something else; good luck with that in the near future.
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Asking people over 70s to self isolate for up to 4 MONTHS is going to cause a big backlash and open rebellion....not a chance!!!!
Some will, some won't, some are doing it already.
A friend's in-laws won't visit for their granddaughter's 1st birthday party (they're Remain snowflakes).
Whereas another friend's parents say "The government are NOT grounding us!!!" (they're Brexiteers).
I'm just guessing their political affiliations based on their level of snowflakery.
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Friend of ours is the gym manager of virgin gym in Mayfair.
She’s had two staff signed off with stress. (Both early 20’s)
And the gym has been very quiet. With lots of people putting their payments on hold. Plus next to none new people signing up.
The health club industry is really REALLY going to struggle if it all gets worse.
Self employed PT’s are gonna be panicking, less people wanting to go to the gym for PT sessions.
Window cleaners should get off reasonably lightly if lockdown occurs. (Provided we are still allowed to work)
Not good times for many industries.
My local gym was dead on Friday. Only a handful of people in. Very odd. I worry they will struggle as most people pay with no cancellation contract. So can cancel direct debit like a click of the finger.
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Window cleaners should get off reasonably lightly if lockdown occurs. (Provided we are still allowed to work)
I think so too, though I can think of some of our best accounts; commercial type stuff; dropping us or putting us on pause in the near future.
And I have a sideline in photographing running races; I can't see much of that happening; and it was an ever-growing part of my income.
Still; can't complain, this is going to hurt a lot of people.
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I keep thinking holiday companies are going to be going under.
I have been about to book a trip away to Egypt, that won't be happening now for a little while.
We've got a week in the lakes booked for May, not even sure we'll be doing that at the moment.
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Have had a weekend in the lakes this weekend. There’s no better (safer?) place to be than up a mountain in the middle of nowhere with not another soul in sight.
If we’re put into lockdown I’d even consider getting a cheap air bnb up there for a couple of weeks and spend some quality time with the family enjoying the outdoors.
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Yeah but you then have to come back down the mountain and enter the pub/hotel etc and mingle with the great unwashed.
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If I get any customers wishing to cancel for financial reasons due to Coronavirus I will be offering a less frequent service with a deferred payment option for these customers until it all blows over.
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Yeah but you then have to come back down the mountain and enter the pub/hotel etc and mingle with the great unwashed.
We've recently bought rucksacks, lightweight sleeping bags, tent, cooking equipment, water purification filter (not for window cleaning, for drinking from streams 'n' stuff) and we plan to keep away from humans.
But this was planned well before the coronavirus.
Honest.
I'm not a screaming Remain snowflake.
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If I get any customers wishing to cancel for financial reasons due to Coronavirus I will be offering a less frequent service with a deferred payment option for these customers until it all blows over.
If they cant afford £10-£20 every month/2 months then they must be really in a financial meltdown and will probably cancel altogether :(
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If I get any customers wishing to cancel for financial reasons due to Coronavirus I will be offering a less frequent service with a deferred payment option for these customers until it all blows over.
I clean the windows of a garden centre with a busy restaurant; I also know the owner socially because he's a member of the running club.
He tells me they're in dire already because of three weeks of bad weather (the constant storms) and now there's a massive drop off due to the coronavirus.
It's not looking good for him or his staff, never mind the window cleaners.
Then there's all the offices we do; they'll probably stop if everything goes under 'martial law'.
And what about the posh wedding venue we do; one of my top paying jobs from a ease and £ per hour basis. Will people defer their dream wedding till later in the year?
Probably.
But normal run of the mill domestic should be fine.
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Yeah but you then have to come back down the mountain and enter the pub/hotel etc and mingle with the great unwashed.
Not really. I’d rent a cottage out of the way and have very minimal contact with anybody for as long as possible. That would be quite easy for me tbh as I generally don’t like people very much anyway.
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Well, will be interesting to see how this week unfolds, i would be shocked if i dont get any cancels.
Just about to send texts out for tomorrow, quite nervous lol
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Yep got 2 large domestic jobs to text in a bit....I'm also cleaning 4 blocks of granny flats first thing in the morning...most of them are in the at risk group with various health issues.......
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I guess that's another perk for having a hot water system. Now I know the real reason for it.
Hot water on demand with a squirt of fairy liquid to wash my hands regularly with ;D
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I still don't understand why that would stop you canvassing.
Is this media driven panic about COVID19 affecting any other areas of your life?
You still think this covid19 won’t effect me going out canvassing & trying to get new customers?
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I still don't understand why that would stop you canvassing.
Is this media driven panic about COVID19 affecting any other areas of your life?
You still think this covid19 won’t effect me going out canvassing & trying to get new customers?
Theres a number of guys in here who have mentioned new work they’ve picked up just today. I picked up a new domestic enquiry from yesterday and had a commercial clean enquiry in London earlier today. Last week I had a pressure washing enquiry that I’m doing Friday. The works still out there so it would seem.
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I still don't understand why that would stop you canvassing.
Is this media driven panic about COVID19 affecting any other areas of your life?
You still think this covid19 won’t effect me going out canvassing & trying to get new customers?
Theres a number of guys in here who have mentioned new work they’ve picked up just today. I picked up a new domestic enquiry from yesterday and had a commercial clean enquiry in London earlier today. Last week I had a pressure washing enquiry that I’m doing Friday. The works still out there so it would seem.
I guess I should go out canvassing then. It’s all media driven panic like you said ;D
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I picked a new job up last week and I'm cleaning it later on today....he texted me to say he's looking forward to meeting me.....although I'll be keeping my distance and no handshakes like usual on meeting a new customer for the first time. :)
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
It won’t be paid leave, it will be SSP.
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
It won’t be paid leave, it will be SSP.
Depends who you work for , Royal Mails sick pay is full pay for 6 months
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Local nursing home to me has 8 of the 28 staff off isolating. This is nurses and carers. They are not allowed to use temporary staff in times of pandemic as they will pass the virus from one home to the next. Things are going to get very bad very quickly from here.
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Got our first cancellation due to virus just now. Was a first clean last month so not getting too anxious just yet. Worrying times ahead though!
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
Who cares?
So some postie gets an extra two-weeks holiday. And?
It's not like MPs claiming hundreds-of-thousands on dodgy claims at the tax payers expense.
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Business as usual. I overstayed the 1 1/2 hours in Aldi car park the other day by 15 mins because of all the panic buying. I'm sure I'll still be getting a fake pcn through the post from parking eye.
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
Who cares?
So some postie gets an extra two-weeks holiday. And?
It's not like MPs claiming hundreds-of-thousands on dodgy claims at the tax payers expense.
Exactly......who the hell cares!we are self employed so most of us will crack on as usual......its only shirkers who hate their jobs thatll do it...... ;D
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
Who cares?
So some postie gets an extra two-weeks holiday. And?
It's not like MPs claiming hundreds-of-thousands on dodgy claims at the tax payers expense.
Exactly......who the hell cares!we are self employed so most of us will crack on as usual......its only shirkers who hate their jobs thatll do it...... ;D
Incredibly ignorant that I’m afraid Daz, even by your standards.
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Why should you even bother your brain about whether other people will abuse the system?its not worth thinking about.....
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I think it's the bigger picture with so many crutial businesses under pressure with staff being genuinely off.
It's not the time for selfishness accross the globe.
For example, supermarket shelves are empty. Replenishing them to meet demand need staff, who are going to be short staffed to work around the clock to meet demands.
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Just had a cancel via text.
"hi, would like to cancel your services"
Me - anything wrong with the service or the price?
"it's the price really, we can get it done for £12"
Just checked her price on cleaner planner....
£13
Times must be getting hard lol
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So 55 dead (older ones with underlying health issues) and well over 1500 people infected, though they estimate its more than double that.
Thats good odds, though obviously feel for the familes who have had the untimely deaths due to the added virus.
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I wonder how many employed people will take the pea and make a false claim a family member has a fever and take 14 days paid leave. Its open to abuse.
Who cares?
So some postie gets an extra two-weeks holiday. And?
It's not like MPs claiming hundreds-of-thousands on dodgy claims at the tax payers expense.
Spoken like a true sole trader lol
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So 55 dead (older ones with underlying health issues) and well over 1500 people infected, though they estimate its more than double that.
Thats good odds, though obviously feel for the familes who have had the untimely deaths due to the added virus.
The odds that really count were set out yesterday during the PM;s brief. 15% of those with underlying problems which represent 20% of the population are likely to die on current findings ie that's less than 1 in 7. Nothing remotely good about those odds. Have a look at the list of what qualifies as an underlying problem, you might be unpleasantly surprised, then start looking at your own circle of friends and family let alone customers. It's barely started and there's no exit strategy yet.
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So 55 dead (older ones with underlying health issues) and well over 1500 people infected, though they estimate its more than double that.
Thats good odds, though obviously feel for the familes who have had the untimely deaths due to the added virus.
People still don't get it. We haven't reached the peak yet not even to mention the incubation period of approx 7-10 days without showing symptoms. This has the very real potential for infection numbers to double daily as well as death rate from it. Financial ruin for many and a health service that's already at breaking point before its begun. But don't panic, Boris has got this, we're all in this together and will get through it, we're British.
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So 55 dead (older ones with underlying health issues) and well over 1500 people infected, though they estimate its more than double that.
Thats good odds, though obviously feel for the familes who have had the untimely deaths due to the added virus.
People still don't get it. We haven't reached the peak yet not even to mention the incubation period of approx 7-10 days without showing symptoms. This has the very real potential for infection numbers to double daily as well as death rate from it. Financial ruin for many and a health service that's already at breaking point before its begun. But don't panic, Boris has got this, we're all in this together and will get through it, we're British.
That's the spirit.
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People do get it but its also important not to get carried away in all the negatives and worse case scenorios.
Oh yes i do get it, my wifes nanna is in a care centre which may now have it. My mother in law is self isolating as she has flu like symptoms, aches and tight chest etc. So yes, i do get the full weight of it.
Yes the economy could come crashing down if severe action isnt taken.
However the estimated figures of ones who have had it or have it is very high in relation to all the panic and control that is being done about it.
Some are afraid to go out after yesterdays anouncements and some are scared for their lives. However, if ones who have underlying health issues regulate themselves whilst being sensible about it and if others suck it up and stay in when they are unwell, then it shouldnt be as bad as what people trump it up to being.
Its spreaded so easily because, lets face it, the vast majority couldnt give two hoots and would carry on regardless. Some have said on here as much. Yet if they follow basic hygiene, cover their mouths when coughing and wash / sanitize their hands. Sneeze and dispose of their snotty tissues etc correctly then this wouldnt have escalated.
Perhaps now people will take health a little more seriously and wash their hands when they go to public loos rather than touching everything in stores and pass their germs around.
It takes a virus with potential life threatening conditions and the threat of a failing economy to bring people to their senses.
However, in the grand scheme of things, 55 have died sadly, yet hundreds have pulled through and will continue to do so, my mother in law included
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So 55 dead (older ones with underlying health issues) and well over 1500 people infected, though they estimate its more than double that.
Thats good odds, though obviously feel for the familes who have had the untimely deaths due to the added virus.
People still don't get it. We haven't reached the peak yet not even to mention the incubation period of approx 7-10 days without showing symptoms. This has the very real potential for infection numbers to double daily as well as death rate from it. Financial ruin for many and a health service that's already at breaking point before its begun. But don't panic, Boris has got this, we're all in this together and will get through it, we're British.
Most people do get it which is why they aren't blaming Boris for something that is beyond his control, its simple if you or a family member have underlying health issues that put you in a high risk category then you need to self isolate for the next three months maybe longer, the rest of us need to continue on as normal, get the virus, get over it in a few days and most importantly get immunity so we are no longer a treat to those people Iv mentioned.
Unfortunately as per usual to keep the peace our government will have to pander to idiots which will make this a hell of a lot worse than it needs to be.
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I've got a heart condition, my younger brother has a pacemaker and dad has had heart attacks. Oh my grandma is on her last legs with multiple strokes and high blood pressure.
Not sure if my condition puts me at higher risk but there's no point worrying about it, I won't be hiding away unless I'm told I have to.
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Had to drop of a package at a post office I was near to this moring.
Shop must have just taken a delivery of toilet rolls. The queue to the till was a dozen or so long full of elderly with arms full the the brim of toilet roll. They cleared the shelves between them.
And the elderly say they are stuggling with all this panic buying going on..... Its them bl++)y doing it
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I've got a heart condition, my younger brother has a pacemaker and dad has had heart attacks. Oh my grandma is on her last legs with multiple strokes and high blood pressure.
Not sure if my condition puts me at higher risk but there's no point worrying about it, I won't be hiding away unless I'm told I have to.
Let’s hope that others isolate also when they are told they have to. Not for their own health but for other members of the community who may be more at risk than them.
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I'm not blaming Boris for the virus.
Destroying the businesses of thousands though by not ordering that they close but suggesting people don't use them is reckless.
NHS was already hugely understaffed before this happened. People were already waiting for ops, sick, injured and dying. They still will be but even worse than before. In 2 weeks from now the situation will be dire. Suggesting that the odds are great with only 3000 people infected and 55 having died is just stupid.
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Had to drop of a package at a post office I was near to this moring.
Shop must have just taken a delivery of toilet rolls. The queue to the till was a dozen or so long full of elderly with arms full the the brim of toilet roll. They cleared the shelves between them.
And the elderly say they are stuggling with all this panic buying going on..... Its them bl++)y doing it
This isn't the first time that i've heard it's mostly the old wrinklies that are doing the stocking up and emptying the shelves. They're probably splurging on their credit cards also in case they croak it.
Crafty buggers (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1584453797_grin.gif)
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I've got a heart condition, my younger brother has a pacemaker and dad has had heart attacks. Oh my grandma is on her last legs with multiple strokes and high blood pressure.
Not sure if my condition puts me at higher risk but there's no point worrying about it, I won't be hiding away unless I'm told I have to.
Unfortunately I don't think you'll have long to wait until you are told to hide away. Breakfast telly had some health bigwig on this morning who said measures are to be taken further with the "at risk" group and letters are being sent out to them shortly. He declined to say exactly what was being done but it was intimated from others that 12 week isolation would be the outcome irrespective of whether you have symptoms. What happened after 12 weeks though.? Can't imagine that group can get on as normal until the vast majority of non risk people have had it or they roll out a vaccine which isn't going to be till next year. My wife's "at risk", 12 weeks off would mean her business is finished. You take care Gomo.
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Don't forget there are different strands to this virus that will effect people differently.
There will be a large proportion of people who have had or will get the virus without even knowing. Many will just get flu symptoms. Then a minority will get it bad regardless of age or health.
Being elderly or having health problems does not mean you will get the full blown version. Many old and poor health people have reported they have had the virus but was mild.
Stay positive. Wishing you all and your families a good health.
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The problem is that in reality a lot of people couldn’t stand being isolated for 12 weeks or more. I also saw one of the news feeds today saying if Ireland shuts schools it would be for a minimum of 16 weeks. So that would be this school year finished and then maybe longer than that! The disruption to people’s lives would be unbearable.
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The problem is that in reality a lot of people couldn’t stand being isolated for 12 weeks or more. I also saw one of the news feeds today saying if Ireland shuts schools it would be for a minimum of 16 weeks. So that would be this school year finished and then maybe longer than that! The disruption to people’s lives would be unbearable.
That’s the reason the lockdown is being delayed, because the government know that after 6-8 weeks of lockdown people start to get sick of it and start to venture out. They know we only have one chance at it so need to time it right.
It’s coming though, whether it’s today, tomorrow or even next week, it’s coming so get ready for it.
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Bravado, ignorance and utter stupidity will cost lives.
Large elements of this thread truly disappoint me, really!! ::)roll
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My son and duaghter work at Disney world and Universal studios in Florida both have had suspended there jobs till further notice they
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Don't have much money to survive
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Don't have much money to survive
Maybe you could buy them an airline ticket to get them back here?
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I've got a heart condition, my younger brother has a pacemaker and dad has had heart attacks. Oh my grandma is on her last legs with multiple strokes and high blood pressure.
Not sure if my condition puts me at higher risk but there's no point worrying about it, I won't be hiding away unless I'm told I have to.
it certainly puts you in the at risk category mate......i was reading the chinese statistics on deaths from coronavirus and a lot of the men that have died had cardiovascular disease..... :(
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Just put your prices up you’ll be ok lol.
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Latest death prediction on the UK will be 20,000 as told by the BBC
Thats 0.03% of the population.
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500,000 deaths they reckon if we dont do anything and keep everything open,no shut downs and keep the virus spreading throughout the population.......controversial but is it really a too high a price for the health and prosperity for the majority of the population?
im not saying yes or no to this question by the way.......im just putting it out there.....
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500,000 deaths they reckon if we dont do anything and keep everything open,no shut downs and keep the virus spreading throughout the population.......controversial but is it really a too high a price for the health and prosperity for the majority of the population?
im not saying yes or no to this question by the way.......im just putting it out there.....
Been reading a lot about this and i can see the argument of just letting it run and get it over with so to speak. I think this was the initial plan with talk of "herd immunity", hoping the many who get infected protect the rest of us.
The major flaw with it though is that it would overwhelm the NHS all at once meaning many people would not the care and subsequently more deaths. Look at Italy, they are essentially having to let over 80s die because they cant cope.
Locking it down wont stop the spread but the aim is to slow it so they can cope and give each person better treatment, resulting in less deaths overall.
This Dr on you tube has lots of interesting videos on the coronovirus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr0Cqlf5xK4&t=11s
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Latest death prediction on the UK will be 20,000 as told by the BBC
Thats 0.03% of the population.
thats an estimation based on the new strategies IF......and its a big IF people follow the rules advised by government. The difference is other countrys are enforcing it we are just advising it.
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Latest death prediction on the UK will be 20,000 as told by the BBC
Thats 0.03% of the population.
thats an estimation based on the new strategies IF......and its a big IF people follow the rules advised by government. The difference is other countrys are enforcing it we are just advising it.
Not sure I understand that figure considering the UK’s population is around 66 million.
China’s population is 1.4 billion and they had so far 3241 deaths
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Latest death prediction on the UK will be 20,000 as told by the BBC
Thats 0.03% of the population.
thats an estimation based on the new strategies IF......and its a big IF people follow the rules advised by government. The difference is other countrys are enforcing it we are just advising it.
Not sure I understand that figure considering the UK’s population is around 66 million.
China’s population is 1.4 billion and they had so far 3241 deaths
Our strategy and china`s is totally different, they had a military style lock down and contained it. But what we are waiting to see is will it pop back up again a soon as the curfew is lifted.
I think what helped is that the majority of cases were in wuhan so they locked it down sharpish.
I think we are more comparable to Italy
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500,000 deaths they reckon if we dont do anything and keep everything open,no shut downs and keep the virus spreading throughout the population.......controversial but is it really a too high a price for the health and prosperity for the majority of the population?
im not saying yes or no to this question by the way.......im just putting it out there.....
It is a potential situation that could come in to play.
I cannot see how a large percentage of the population will stand being suppressed for a long period of time. People will rebel and refuse to be isolated and it will be survival of the fittest in that situation.
It's a really poop state to be in, and i hope things don't go that far.
But it's a possibility......
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Anyone else peeved that the self employed will be on there own when it comes to self isolating and during a possible lock down?
Yet, for example, teachers who are crying out for schools to be closed will be on full pay. I dread to think if the NHS, Care Workers, Retailers all gave up so quick.
Maybe they should just close schools when the time is right and deploy the paid staff into the NHS to help reduce the pressure during times of need.
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What did you think when you became self-employed?
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Anyone else peeved that the self employed will be on there own when it comes to self isolating and during a possible lock down?
Yet, for example, teachers who are crying out for schools to be closed will be on full pay. I dread to think if the NHS, Care Workers, Retailers all gave up so quick.
Maybe they should just close schools when the time is right and deploy the paid staff into the NHS to help reduce the pressure during times of need.
A customer i spoke to this morning said her kids school had lost a couple of Teacher's due to self isolating.
And so the small village school was now understaffed and Parents had been asked to keep their kids at home if possible.
The school is still currently open but only around 10 kids or so were in attendance.
She said there is at least one other infant school in the area that's in the same boat.
So unfortunately some school's are already barely able to function without being told to close by Government.
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Im screwed either way but im used to managing and not overly stressing about these things. For me at least, they have a way of working out in the long run.
Currently kids are off school, my mother in law is self isolating. My wife as you know is not great and her health changes daily and hourly. So for instance, shes taken a turn for the worse at the moment and having a dizzi / tired spell. So ive had to pack up n come home to watch the kids. Ive needed to text my customers who unlock their gates to postpone for another day. My work is currently day by day or at the moment, half day by the remainder of the day........
(Last month was hard with the three storms, bad weather and family health. I did 3 out of 7 rounds in feb due to all of that, but saved by switching to some bigger jobs ie softwashing etc which bought the money in)
I book in the additional jobs either in the first week or last of a month and this makes up the short fall of money lost due to not completing full rounds.
Yes its manageable because of how Ive now organised my work and the quality of my work to match our current circumstance.
Sure things might get worse and it is certainly worrying times, jm not denying that but, try looking for the silver lining and keep positive.
Haha im getting sick of hearing of ones moaning that they are well and self isolating / working from home...........flippin heck, man up and stop moaning! Try being at home with health issues for over a yr like my mrs and others. Lol i would love a week paid by my boss for working at home 😁😁🤦♂️
(Sorry, moan over)
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So, anyone got it yet?
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My mother in law, thats why she self isolating. She hasnt been tested, but she is showing all the symptoms and is basically suffering with flu.
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I had "the call" this morning re some of my commercial stuff, offices mainly saying don't clean until we call you. They are all closing for the foreseeable future "maybe 12 weeks or more". Kick in the gonads for sure.
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My mother in law, thats why she self isolating. She hasnt been tested, but she is showing all the symptoms and is basically suffering with flu.
How's she doing?
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My mother in law, thats why she self isolating. She hasnt been tested, but she is showing all the symptoms and is basically suffering with flu.
How's she doing?
Thankfully shes on her own, so has plenty of tea bags and toilet rolls to last 😁
So far she just aches badly like you would with a flu and tired and suffers with a tight chest but so far she is managing at 60 yrs old
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No one knows if they’ve got it.
96% of people displaying flu like symptoms will not have Covid 19.
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I had "the call" this morning re some of my commercial stuff, offices mainly saying don't clean until we call you. They are all closing for the foreseeable future "maybe 12 weeks or more". Kick in the gonads for sure.
im expecting this too for my commercial jobs.....childrens homes,childrens nurseries,offices,etc..........some of my best paying work....
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I had "the call" this morning re some of my commercial stuff, offices mainly saying don't clean until we call you. They are all closing for the foreseeable future "maybe 12 weeks or more". Kick in the gonads for sure.
im expecting this too for my commercial jobs.....childrens homes,childrens nurseries,offices,etc..........some of my best paying work....
Already started. School contracts cancelled, pubs cancelled. Some residentials have cancelled due to no money coming in. I do feel for them though.
Now schools are closed, I expect more. Plod on and do the best you can. You can't control this at all.
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No one knows if they’ve got it.
96% of people displaying flu like symptoms will not have Covid 19.
Phew, glad dr mats on the case. Thankfully she got through the 111 call n spoke to whoever on the other end. They are only testing or were at that point, testing vulnerable ones and not everyone else.
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Its not Dr Matt.. the statistics are out there, every day its very simple
Theyve tested 50,000 people and 2,000 have tested positive. 48,000 have tested negative. Simple mathematics.
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Its not Dr Matt.. the statistics are out there, every day its very simple
Theyve tested 50,000 people and 2,000 have tested positive. 48,000 have tested negative. Simple mathematics.
Yet they are testing all high risk candidates if they want it or not. Another older friend of mine who is very high risk had the ambulance crew call on her, dressed in white lol to do the test.
At least the ambulance crew are in full protective clothing 😁.
So those figures arent great as not all of them claim to have it anyway
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What?
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Just had a nice txt from a custard who iv never met - actually brought a tear to my eye
Hi. I know it's late so no need to reply. I've transferred for this month and next. Even if you have to self isolate and cannot do it I'm not fussed. Keep yourself and your family safe.
What a nice thing to do :)
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What?
I know ones who are at high risk and are on medical alert anyway due to their conditions are being checked to see if they have the virus or not.
So in other words, they are testing a lot of people and rightly so but alot of them dont and havent said they have it anyway. Yet due to them being very high risk, are being tested before or during isolation.
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My mother in law, thats why she self isolating. She hasnt been tested, but she is showing all the symptoms and is basically suffering with flu.
How's she doing?
Thankfully shes on her own, so has plenty of tea bags and toilet rolls to last 😁
So far she just aches badly like you would with a flu and tired and suffers with a tight chest but so far she is managing at 60 yrs old
Plus another thing ive just remembered. They advised only to take paracetamol and not ibuprofen.
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What?
I know ones who are at high risk and are on medical alert anyway due to their conditions are being checked to see if they have the virus or not.
So in other words, they are testing a lot of people and rightly so but alot of them dont and havent said they have it anyway. Yet due to them being very high risk, are being tested before or during isolation.
And on the flip side of the same coin theres numerous peeps that are isolating and they dont have it despite being tested.
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its interesting reading some comments on the first couple of pages when the virus was early days, even though it's only been a week. Have opinions changed much? ;D
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its interesting reading some comments on the first couple of pages when the virus was early days, even though it's only been a week. Have opinions changed much? ;D
Yes, some of those posts haven't aged very well. Lee Dewing did a good one early on though.
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its interesting reading some comments on the first couple of pages when the virus was early days, even though it's only been a week. Have opinions changed much? ;D
As daz said
"the whole economy can't grind to a halt because of a virus"
::)roll
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Its not the practical side of things we have to worry about, we can quite easily clean a house and have no contact with anyone, they can easily pay on line. But if people think we' re going to be unaffected they've got a nasty shock coming to them. If we follow other countries examples then isolation , banning of public events etc will follow and ultimately alot of people in other work sectors wont be able to work and that will impact us. If the moneys not coming in, people will cut back and window cleaning is a luxury people can do without. Add public paranoia to the mix and we will be getting cancellations.
As for just putting it down to sensationalism , some people need to wake up. Never in my lifetime have worldwide governments acted in this way, and its becoming clearer why. The mortality rate of flu varies but is about 0.15 %, So far coronavirus its 3.5% and that figure will only rise as its based on figures of people who still have it and so may add to the amount of fatalities. Add in the mix that there are serious doubts as to the accuracy of death figures given by china and Iran then that figure is only going to get higher. We're on the verge of something quite extraordinary. It looks like everyones life is going to be affected one way or another.
Yawn ::)roll
Dont forget Simon Trapanis ; ::)roll
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Ok hands up but I’m still bored of the whole thing! ;D
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Ok hands up but I’m still bored of the whole thing! ;D
Unfortunately I can see you being bored for a very long time, it's difficult to be optimistic about a quick outcome to all this. It only seems two minutes since we were all tucking into Christmas Dinner, little did we know then what was lurking around the corner. Frightening how life can turned upside down so quickly.
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To lighten the mood
https://youtu.be/vaUI-8RLi78