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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slacky on February 26, 2020, 05:21:10 pm
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Where or how do you have the pole-hose and reel-hose joined? Do you walk around carrying it or leave it dragging on the deck?
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I use gorilla tape on the metal rectus fittings. which I renew every now and again and just drag it. Totally hands free
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I use slick connect and just drag it everywhere ;D
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Slick connect and i like to hold the slick connect in my hand to pull hose to furthest point of a job then walk back with it. If i know there are obstacles i just pick up the slick connect and walk when i move round the house saves faffing getting caught on stuff which nearly always happens on certain houses!
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Not sure I follow your question slacky
univalve is inside the pole - I position mine about a foot from the brush head - pole hose is then connected to mincrobore with a rectus 21 fitting
just brought an ova-8 I understand that the univalve goes inside the pole near the base - I'm then going to try a homeless setup which means the pole hose and microbore connected by a permanent barbed hose tail
Darran
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I use a valve protection rubber boot over the Rectus fitting
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We drill a hole in those foam practice golf balls from ebay that are sold to window cleaners as protecta balls.
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I use same as Shrek.
Rectus 19 male and female. Wrap enough Gorilla tape round it and it does a good job. Slides over the ground well, very rarely snags.
I tried the Slick-Connect, which I liked , but it wouldn’t fit through my rollers on the reel ( so I took the top roller off temporarily). Then only a after couple of months use it cracked. I use hot water, and I don’t think it likes it too much.
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Not sure I follow your question slacky
univalve is inside the pole - I position mine about a foot from the brush head - pole hose is then connected to mincrobore with a rectus 21 fitting
just brought an ova-8 I understand that the univalve goes inside the pole near the base - I'm then going to try a homeless setup which means the pole hose and microbore connected by a permanent barbed hose tail
Darran
Been running like that for about 5 years now. We use a brass 6mm barbed fitting with a 7-9mm O clip and a 10-12mm O clip.
When we want to add a longer pole or extension pack from Gardiners it's takes about a minute to swap over. No more leaks, hardly snags and no expensive fittings. Every now and then we un "twist" the pole hose. O clips last about 2-3 months.
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Where?
I have enough pole hose for to cover me up to 35’, plus an extra metre or so, then I put the rectus fitting there, joining up with the reel hose.
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I don’t use pole hose, tubeless set up and connect my microbore up directly.
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I don't get it.
What has a univalve got to do with how you connect your pole hose to reel?
I just use rectus fittings
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Because ive been trying out various means of controlling waterflow. I would get a univalve but it seems the connection between the pole hise and the reel hose is left to drag on the ground, which i definitely dont want.
Otherwise the univalve seems ideal, hiwever the fact the connection drags around on the ground deters me from getting one,
Ive just fitted a new tap to my pole anyway, that seems to be the best of both worlds. Excellent water flow control which is what im after.
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Because ive been trying out various means of controlling waterflow. I would get a univalve but it seems the connection between the pole hise and the reel hose is left to drag on the ground, which i definitely dont want.
Otherwise the univalve seems ideal, hiwever the fact the connection drags around on the ground deters me from getting one,
Ive just fitted a new tap to my pole anyway, that seems to be the best of both worlds. Excellent water flow control which is what im after.
So you have a tap on your pole with a loop Matt?
Each to their own but I've not worked like that for many years since the aquadaptor and then the univalve came out.......IMO its much better....
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Yes the connector gets dragged along the ground but I use rectus26 fittings and they last ages and very rarely come apart when working.....its better than having a loop of hose on my pole for sure.....
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Because ive been trying out various means of controlling waterflow. I would get a univalve but it seems the connection between the pole hise and the reel hose is left to drag on the ground, which i definitely dont want.
Otherwise the univalve seems ideal, hiwever the fact the connection drags around on the ground deters me from getting one,
Ive just fitted a new tap to my pole anyway, that seems to be the best of both worlds. Excellent water flow control which is what im after.
So you have a tap on your pole with a loop Matt?
Each to their own but I've not worked like that for many years since the aquadaptor and then the univalve came out.......IMO its much better....
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Yes the connector gets dragged along the ground but I use rectus26 fittings and they last ages and very rarely come apart when working.....its better than having a loop of hose on my pole for sure.....
When you use a Univalve and you pick up your connector between your pole hose and reel hose to move to the next location on the house you're cleaning you make your own loop.
I tried working last week by dragging the hose round with those foam golf-balls on the join, they still catch on everything that they possibly could.
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My univalve sits inside the pole about a foot down from the brush.
I agree that dragging the connection along the floor is a pain.
However, I recently I fitted the slick connect and I have to say it is excellent.
It catches far less than my old protecta ball, and does not come apart.
My stress levels have definitely improved.
I think both products are excellent and, if it were me, for the £60 or so, I would purchase both, fit them and see how you get on.
The worst is, you don't like either and you've blown £60, or resell them. But they could change the way you work!
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Because ive been trying out various means of controlling waterflow. I would get a univalve but it seems the connection between the pole hise and the reel hose is left to drag on the ground, which i definitely dont want.
Otherwise the univalve seems ideal, hiwever the fact the connection drags around on the ground deters me from getting one,
Ive just fitted a new tap to my pole anyway, that seems to be the best of both worlds. Excellent water flow control which is what im after.
So you have a tap on your pole with a loop Matt?
Each to their own but I've not worked like that for many years since the aquadaptor and then the univalve came out.......IMO its much better....
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Yes the connector gets dragged along the ground but I use rectus26 fittings and they last ages and very rarely come apart when working.....its better than having a loop of hose on my pole for sure.....
When you use a Univalve and you pick up your connector between your pole hose and reel hose to move to the next location on the house you're cleaning you make your own loop.
I tried working last week by dragging the hose round with those foam golf-balls on the join, they still catch on everything that they possibly could.
i dont use any foam ball protectors....as you say they catch on everything.....just the connector along the ground.....i probably have to change the connector every 6 months but they are relatively inexpensive......
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Shown this a while back everyone bagged me out.
And now it seems not to bad idea. ;D ;D
At least not dragging the hose connection on the ground getting hooked on things. ::)roll ::)roll :o :o
Also all you need is the one ON/OFF switch on your belt for all your poles.
NOT one switch for each pole you have LOL.
https://youtu.be/qoZU_KsGEpE
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Shown this a while back everyone bagged me out.
And now it seems not to bad idea. ;D ;D
At least not dragging the hose connection on the ground getting hooked on things. ::)roll ::)roll :o :o
Also all you need is the one ON/OFF switch on your belt for all your poles.
NOT one switch for each pole you have LOL.
https://youtu.be/qoZU_KsGEpE
What a joke......by the time you ve faffed about with that I'll have cleaned a whole house and I'll be onto my next job........I hose connector dragging along the floor is not an issue for me......
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Oh yes we have got all the bugs out of it now.
First only cost about 5 pound to make fits on any belt.
No faffing around pulling your hose ON/OFF.
Hose never drag on ground or get's hooked up on any thing.
No extra hose around your feet. NO TRIPPING HOSES ON THE GROUND.
If the brass water switch fails hasn't yet but if it does replace it 5 minute job. for about $2 think that's about 1 Pound. maybe less.
Anyway let you use what you think best. ;D ;D
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Because ive been trying out various means of controlling waterflow. I would get a univalve but it seems the connection between the pole hise and the reel hose is left to drag on the ground, which i definitely dont want.
Otherwise the univalve seems ideal, hiwever the fact the connection drags around on the ground deters me from getting one,
Ive just fitted a new tap to my pole anyway, that seems to be the best of both worlds. Excellent water flow control which is what im after.
So you have a tap on your pole with a loop Matt?
Each to their own but I've not worked like that for many years since the aquadaptor and then the univalve came out.......IMO its much better....
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Yes the connector gets dragged along the ground but I use rectus26 fittings and they last ages and very rarely come apart when working.....its better than having a loop of hose on my pole for sure.....
When you use a Univalve and you pick up your connector between your pole hose and reel hose to move to the next location on the house you're cleaning you make your own loop.
I tried working last week by dragging the hose round with those foam golf-balls on the join, they still catch on everything that they possibly could.
I just pick it up by the connector if I’m going round a corner or similar. Otherwise I just give it a sharp tug towards me. Any connector will catch on certain corners/car tyres etc.
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Oh yes we have got all the bugs out of it now.
First only cost about 5 pound to make fits on any belt.
No faffing around pulling your hose ON/OFF.
Hose never drag on ground or get's hooked up on any thing.
No extra hose around your feet. NO TRIPPING HOSES ON THE GROUND.
If the brass water switch fails hasn't yet but if it does replace it 5 minute job. for about $2 think that's about 1 Pound. maybe less.
Anyway let you use what you think best. ;D ;D
Same as a holster and tap. Just don’t make the connection from tap and reel hose too long and the connector is off the ground. Don’t think many of us can be bothered with the cowboys pommel for excess hose to be honest. Flick the poppers open on the holster to release the tap.
That’s just about it.
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Shown this a while back everyone bagged me out.
And now it seems not to bad idea. ;D ;D
At least not dragging the hose connection on the ground getting hooked on things. ::)roll ::)roll :o :o
Also all you need is the one ON/OFF switch on your belt for all your poles.
NOT one switch for each pole you have LOL.
https://youtu.be/qoZU_KsGEpE
What a joke......by the time you ve faffed about with that I'll have cleaned a whole house and I'll be onto my next job........I hose connector dragging along the floor is not an issue for me......
Agreed, if you're going to do a video on a tap at least make sure its not leaking. lol
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Oh yes we have got all the bugs out of it now.
First only cost about 5 pound to make fits on any belt.
No faffing around pulling your hose ON/OFF.
Hose never drag on ground or get's hooked up on any thing.
No extra hose around your feet. NO TRIPPING HOSES ON THE GROUND.
If the brass water switch fails hasn't yet but if it does replace it 5 minute job. for about $2 think that's about 1 Pound. maybe less.
Anyway let you use what you think best. ;D ;D
Same as a holster and tap. Just don’t make the connection from tap and reel hose too long and the connector is off the ground. Don’t think many of us can be bothered with the cowboys pommel for excess hose to be honest. Flick the poppers open on the holster to release the tap.
That’s just about it.
As said this was prototype and all the bugs are out of it now.
Of cause some people can not see pass that (the big picture.)
And noticed from all the posts lately.
It also seems that the Unvalve has few short coming as well.
Here's someone else that uses this system and also tried the Univalve as well.
UNIVALVE v OTHER??
And at the 330 mark give you the pros and cons.
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk
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That blokes on here too Herman ;D ;D
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That blokes on here too Herman ;D ;D
That's correct he is also saying what I have been saying.in regard to water switches.
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NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk
Relating to the water control valve he is using on there belt and works as good as our set up.
But this one we have it attached to the belt differently otherwise the water valve ball switch works the same as any other.
Just does not flop around on the belt.
Check the video can attach your ball valve switch. easily.
https://youtu.be/eJi4y3Dgxn8
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1583033666_WATER SWITCH.2.jpg)
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Lovely! But who wants to wear a belt and valve all day and who wants to fit a belt for every job?
With a holster you never remove it. Mine has been on my belt for ten years, doesn’t get in the way, weighs very little, never need to uncouple the hose so connectors last for ages. Can jump in and out of the van without removing it. Some people can’t see past the nose on their face.
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The advantage of a Univalve is eliminating that loop of pole hose that tends to tangle with the reel hose. The disadvantage would be loss of water control (it’s either on or off). In the early days some suppliers offered hooks to attatch to the pole to wind excess hose onto (hardly ideal).
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Lovely! But who wants to wear a belt and valve all day and who wants to fit a belt for every job?
With a holster you never remove it. Mine has been on my belt for ten years, doesn’t get in the way, weighs very little, never need to uncouple the hose so connectors last for ages. Can jump in and out of the van without removing it. Some people can’t see past the nose on their face.
Good on you as said if works for you that great. ;)
Everyone has there way of doing things that work for them. ;D ;D ;D
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The advantage of a Univalve is eliminating that loop of pole hose that tends to tangle with the reel hose. The disadvantage would be loss of water control (it’s either on or off). In the early days some suppliers offered hooks to attatch to the pole to wind excess hose onto (hardly ideal).
Pretty clear that you have not seen this video
Here's someone else that uses this system and also tried the Univalve as well.
UNIVALVE v OTHER??
And at the 330 mark give you the pros and cons.
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk
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The advantage of a Univalve is eliminating that loop of pole hose that tends to tangle with the reel hose. The disadvantage would be loss of water control (it’s either on or off). In the early days some suppliers offered hooks to attatch to the pole to wind excess hose onto (hardly ideal).
Pretty clear that you have not seen this video
Here's someone else that uses this system and also tried the Univalve as well.
UNIVALVE v OTHER??
And at the 330 mark give you the pros and cons.
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk
You and nK are the same kind of people , no one copies both your ideas though ;D
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Oh dear🙁.
I remember when my father in law worked with me
he swore by the tap on a belt thingy.
He also converted a clx gardener pole that had worn out clamps and levers with some roof rack plastic screw numptys . You had to turn and turn until tight. After a month he complained that he was having wrist problems and couldn’t think why😁😜. Some ideas over complicate and hinder when there is already a perfectly good solution that works.
T
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+ I don’t even think it’s a ‘ Whatever works for you argument’
It’s simply against the laws of physics 😁
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Herman, I’ve seen both videos, but you always post utter garbage and refuse to listen when people point out that it’s either been done already, doesn’t work or is in the dark ages. Why don’t you take on board any of these things?
As I said it’s not practical to wear lumps of plastic with levers attached all day and neither is it practical to change belts every time you jump out of the van. NK’s version is basically a tap on a holster, been done for at least twelve years, just a larger lever than most prefer to use, he’s having to support a little extra weight by connecting the microbore directly to the tap
If you’re continually going to post your latest inventions you have to be prepared for criticism. If you listened then maybe you could come up with a truly great design.
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Herman, I’ve seen both videos, but you always post utter garbage and refuse to listen when people point out that it’s either been done already, doesn’t work or is in the dark ages. Why don’t you take on board any of these things?
As I said it’s not practical to wear lumps of plastic with levers attached all day and neither is it practical to change belts every time you jump out of the van. NK’s version is basically a tap on a holster, been done for at least twelve years, just a larger lever than most prefer to use.
So do you agree with what NKs said in relations to the Pros & Cons Univalve and the tap on a holster,??
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My lever eliminated the loop some years ago but it never took off , hardly surprising really as it was pretty pants ;D
I did the honourable thing and ooofed it into the corner of the shed , it might still be there somewhere ;D
https://youtu.be/486NlvtAWes
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I use gorilla tape on the metal rectus fittings. which I renew every now and again and just drag it. Totally hands free
So this is what you like to know??
Anyway if you do not want your hose fitting to drag on the ground or hook up on things.
Coil extra hose from connection to pole .
Put on purpose made hook devise on belt.
Hose is held on by strip of Velcro. so not to fall off.
Or the hose connection from dragging on the ground.
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My lever eliminated the loop some years ago but it never took off , hardly surprising really as it was pretty pants ;D
I did the honourable thing and ooofed it into the corner of the shed , it might still be there somewhere ;D
https://youtu.be/486NlvtAWes
Yes remember seeing that one was that before or after Unger brought there version out of this?? ::)roll ::)roll
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I've always had a "loop" it's no problem at all once you get used to it, most problems happen when you start rushing about and don't watch what's happening with the hose..
I have a tap on a movable sleeve on the bottom section of the pole, it slides up and down the entire length and turns any way around so it's always just where you want it.
Being able to control the flow from low to high and turn it completely off with my thumb on the tap whilst cleaning far outweighs the problem of the "loop" to me.
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My lever eliminated the loop some years ago but it never took off , hardly surprising really as it was pretty pants ;D
I did the honourable thing and ooofed it into the corner of the shed , it might still be there somewhere ;D
https://youtu.be/486NlvtAWes
Yes remember seeing that one was that before or after Unger brought there version out of this?? ::)roll ::)roll
As much as it pains me to say , I actually bought the Unger one not realising it was only really beneficial to hose outside the pole users , and even then could not be used while extending the pole !
So I guess I copied them but made it more compact
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Here’s the beauty ;D
https://youtu.be/lBWkoJLa0WE
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I use gorilla tape on the metal rectus fittings. which I renew every now and again and just drag it. Totally hands free
So this is what you like to know??
Anyway if you do not want your hose fitting to drag on the ground or hook up on things.
Coil extra hose from connection to pole .
Put on purpose made hook devise on belt.
Hose is held on by strip of Velcro. so not to fall off.
Or the hose connection from dragging on the ground.
What are you even reading ??? iv not asked any question and it’s not something I would like to know! I was giving advice
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NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk
Relating to the water control valve he is using on there belt and works as good as our set up.
But this one we have it attached to the belt differently otherwise the water valve ball switch works the same as any other.
Just does not flop around on the belt.
Check the video can attach your ball valve switch. easily.
https://youtu.be/eJi4y3Dgxn8
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1583033666_WATER SWITCH.2.jpg)
that'll have your eye out. Sorry, kidney.
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Here’s the beauty ;D
https://youtu.be/lBWkoJLa0WE
I bought one of those back in the day, the shame.
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NK over complicates it, you just need to put the reel hose though the holster keeping the tap about a foot or so in front of you
this means no wet legs, loops or the need to connect and disconnect the hose every time you pack away, just unclip the holster (2 seconds tops) wind in and go.
Like this picture only the reel hose will be where the tap is.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1583077986_hhhhh.jpg)
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Even better - I’ve just converted to a “tubeless” system the connector fits just inside the butt cap - no connector dragging around no loops of hose and the best yet at the end of day I can store the pole without the 30ft of pole hose wrapped around it
Darran
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Even better - I’ve just converted to a “tubeless” system the connector fits just inside the butt cap - no connector dragging around no loops of hose and the best yet at the end of day I can store the pole without the 30ft of pole hose wrapped around it
Darran
Is that the proper kit or DIY Darran ?
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Hmmm...
Bit of both - it was brought for the slx but I maybe changing all the poles to ova-8. - currently testing one out so I have diy fitted into the end of the pole - a bit like your first heater - needed some chopping about and a few trial and error fittings but working well just see if its up for day in day out use ;D
Darran
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NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk
Relating to the water control valve he is using on there belt and works as good as our set up.
But this one we have it attached to the belt differently otherwise the water valve ball switch works the same as any other.
Just does not flop around on the belt.
Check the video can attach your ball valve switch. easily.
https://youtu.be/eJi4y3Dgxn8
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1583033666_WATER SWITCH.2.jpg)
that'll have your eye out. Sorry, kidney.
HAHAHAHA Like you to show how you think have a kidney out using this :o ??? ::)roll ::)roll LOL.
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I'd be scared that with all those burrs I'd have no fingers left
C'mon HMAN - knock it on the head - you've now recycled this idea on here 2 or 4 times already, it's nothing new and is just something that complicates the issue
Holsters, taps, univalves, quick release fittings, handles with triggers etc..
all are already available and professionally made - each of the above have an advantage and disadvantage and more importantly suit different users needs ( no right or wrong )
but what your trying to peddle is tat ( sorry to say ) - I wonder if you have really ever done a days window cleaning because you fail to grasp what is needed
Darran
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I'd be scared that with all those burrs I'd have no fingers left
C'mon HMAN - knock it on the head - you've now recycled this idea on here 2 or 4 times already, it's nothing new and is just something that complicates the issue
Holsters, taps, univalves, quick release fittings, handles with triggers etc..
all are already available and professionally made - each of the above have an advantage and disadvantage and more importantly suit different users needs ( no right or wrong )
but what your trying to peddle is tat ( sorry to say ) - I wonder if you have really ever done a days window cleaning because you fail to grasp what is needed
Darran
So have you had any better ideas you have done lately ,??
To improve the way you do window cleaning.???
Or are just a go with the flow person.
But there's always someone that likes to criticize.
Like the first part of this video say's
https://youtu.be/8-s_KXa0sqQ
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Or are just a go with the flow person.
I seen what you did there..................
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But he doesn’t.
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HMAN
there is none so blind as those that will not see
Darran