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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slacky on February 25, 2020, 08:58:54 am
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I thought I'd put this here as opposed to the General chat section as its a really important topic.
This day last year an old friend of mine committed suicide by hanging himself in The New Forest. He'd had long term clinical depression, his marriage had floundered and he obviously wasn't coping.
He left 4 kids.
I struggle at times with anxiety and occasional depressive bouts, currently its been pretty bad. I think there are times when this job doesn't help, being I work by myself. I use various apps for 'entertainment' and try to practise a regime of meditation.
Does anyone else on here struggle with this, if you are comfortable enough to acknowledge it publicly.
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Fair play to you Slacky for bringing this to everyone's attention, I think it's extremely important to talk about these things and shows you're a lot stronger than you realise. I definitely believe that a problem shared is a problem halved, sometimes people fear talking about their feelings and somehow that feeling down is a weakness; it's definitely not! Everybody goes through bad days and periods of time, always talk and get it out in the open; this is how change happens.
There will always be ears to listen here mate so feel free to be open and talk; it can also help many others with your same feelings.
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I dont, or at least I dont think I do but as probably recall, my wife suffers from various debilitating long term illnesses and this then impounds her depression n anxieties. Due to young kids, i will have to cancel work at short notice some days to help more and thus makes her feel guilty which adds to the depression.
My daughter has BPD on top of her other problems and this wknd her mother has had a mental breakdown due to all she has on her plate.
So i dont feel i have depression but some days if i stop n think about it all, it can get me on a downer as well.
Doctors, getting on the right medication helps and sometimes if fortunate you can get some support groups which can be beneficial. Sure, talking about your depression alone doesnt really help that much but its the ability to talk to others who know exactly how you feel without being judged for how you feel which helps.
You can get books and apps on mindfulness which helps and excercise is good. You do alot of cycling dont you matt? Head phones in, switch off n cycle or run.
I think on the last thread which was done a while ago, i think there are a number on here who are going through it and can offer support as well.
My ex wife examples has helped me. She didnt buy out time for herself but then she was one who would escape her own problems by helping everyone else. Her daughter who lives with her n sister n bro. Her hubby's kid (20's) who has autism and her mum with bipolar and without looking after her own wellbeing has had a mental breakdown. So we all have our limitations and recognising them is important and buying out time for ourselves is a must.
Oh and venting on here is a good escape ;D
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Sorry about your friend, Matt.
I don't consider myself depressed but my Missus has questioned this recently. I think that I just get down and struggle to motivate myself. I do manage to get on with stuff but my mood might be affected.
Life's not easy and I've experienced significant loss over the years. I just think it builds and builds and I'm almost waiting for the next lot to happen :-\.
I feel older than I should sometimes, if that makes sense? I manage but I could probably manage in a better way.
Take care and good luck with it, mate.
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I thought I'd put this here as opposed to the General chat section as its a really important topic.
This day last year an old friend of mine committed suicide by hanging himself in The New Forest. He'd had long term clinical depression, his marriage had floundered and he obviously wasn't coping.
He left 4 kids.
I struggle at times with anxiety and occasional depressive bouts, currently its been pretty bad. I think there are times when this job doesn't help, being I work by myself. I use various apps for 'entertainment' and try to practise a regime of meditation.
Does anyone else on here struggle with this, if you are comfortable enough to acknowledge it publicly.
Struggled in my late teens but all fine now. It affects far more people than than we imagine, had a similar experience to you with and old boss - very sad. Fortunately it's being discussed more openly than ever before, however us chaps are less inclined to do so - well done for posting. Crazy as this sounds there are lots of people who have overcome depression by changing their nutritional intake, if you're interested take a look at Mikhala Peterson, her Joe Rogan interview was very thought provoking https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiXv-m-v-znAhUhtnEKHTsPCesQwqsBMAF6BAgMEAk&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPF_7688Zk6s&usg=AOvVaw0GK-xxprTiFXsv2KhAywWF
HTH
John
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I feel this job to a point does not help specially working on your own I get days just can't be bothered with it I suffer from depression from time to time. The thing with window cleaning
It does not keep the brain stimulated enough which for me gets me depressed from time to time
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Going for walks and the gym has been fantastic for me; both with people and alone, it's fantastic for the endorphins and allows the mind to settle.
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Yes for as long as I can remember.
Everything from anxiety and panic attacks to depression.
I think it's hereditary. My dad was bad with mental health issues and 2 of my daughters have problems. One of which had to be taken out of school for anxiety and self harming.
It's heartbreaking people suffer like this in silence everyday.
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I thought I'd put this here as opposed to the General chat section as its a really important topic.
This day last year an old friend of mine committed suicide by hanging himself in The New Forest. He'd had long term clinical depression, his marriage had floundered and he obviously wasn't coping.
He left 4 kids.
I struggle at times with anxiety and occasional depressive bouts, currently its been pretty bad. I think there are times when this job doesn't help, being I work by myself. I use various apps for 'entertainment' and try to practise a regime of meditation.
Does anyone else on here struggle with this, if you are comfortable enough to acknowledge it publicly.
Hi Slacky,
Thank you for posting this - this is such an important topic for conversation, because as Gomo mentions, so many people suffer in silence.
I have in the past, or close family members have suffered from various forms of Anxiety and Depression. It can be extremely debilitating and it can sometimes feel really difficult to talk about it.
However taking that first step to just talk is such a key step. I also agree with ForumAdmin and John - regularly exercising outside, walks in the country side and fresh air, or where possible a regular gym schedule plus a good healthy diet is what keeps me on the straight and narrow :)
Well done Slacky for starting this conversation - this could be one of the most important conversations ever started on here if it just helps one person.
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Some people might not even realise that they are suffering with it.
Tyson Fury described it as like carbon monoxide poisoning. I thought that that was quite good for him.
There was me thinking that I was just an angry, impatient, unsociable old modded when my Missus said that I might be depressed. She might be right, to a degree. She usually is.
I'm still working on my treatment plan though ::)roll.
I think breaking down all life's little battles helps; deal with one at a time and tackle a day at a time.
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Sorry to hear that Slacky. I think it’s far more common than anybody realises. Emotional pain, mental issues and anxiety is all hidden. You break a leg and there’s a cast, people see it and it’s “acceptable “, you have time off work, people ask “how’s the leg” ? Etc. Men especially will just try and crack on and not deal with the issues. Self harm is never the answer but the physical pain temporarily masks the emotional pain which is why people do it. Not everyone is able to open up or feel they have someone to talk to about it. The nhs us rusted of its feet. This is where good mates are so important if your lucky enough to have them.
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Feckin weather doesn’t help! :'(
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Modern life constant negative news.
People always comparing themselves feeling like they don't earn / have enough.
I have suffered with depression and anxiety since being a teenager .
In my 20s and 30 s I self medicated with various drugs and alcohol
I still get depressed but it doesn't last I just crack on with living always good to have something to look forward to holidays / hobbies etc.
Life is constantly moving between being good and bad that's how I get through it.
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Feckin weather doesn’t help! :'(
Yep
This weather is enough to make any one feel down, whens it gonna end!!
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The weather certainly doesn't help anyone, I joined one of those 24/7 gyms so I can get some cardio (without relying on weather) and weights done at any time which is fantastic especially having 3 little ones, I can normally be found in there early hours of the morning....it's my medication would be lost without it!
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I don’t suffer from depression as such (I know I’ve been checked by several in the profession) however, a marriage split knocked me sideways and put me into a mental disorder for a few months.
I need a regular sleep pattern to function, I find cleaning windows incredibly boring, with nill job satisfaction (you’d need a brain the size of a pea to enjoy scrubbing glass). Customer interaction is mostly good for the brain too but I become pretty miserable during winter months.
I also think the difference between’normal’ and depressed isn’t very much and fully understand why people often take their own lives having been quite close to it.
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Spot on mate
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Slacky
This is my mobile: 07850 262016
If you're working and not feeling good, give me a ring.
I can work and talk at the same time...(it's not just women who can multi-task!).
We can talk sh111t and put the world to rights!
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Feckin weather doesn’t help! :'(
Seasonal affective disorder
Symptoms of SAD
Symptoms of SAD can include:
a persistent low mood
a loss of pleasure or interest in normal everyday activities
irritability
feelings of despair, guilt and worthlessness
feeling lethargic (lacking in energy) and sleepy during the day
sleeping for longer than normal and finding it hard to get up in the morning
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I left the army after a friend got blown up, couldn't handle life for a while as I'd been very close to the bomb myself. A cousin of mine took his life after his fiancée committed suicide. He went back to Belfast to get his head around her suicide, he went on a drinking binge and never came back as he followed in her footsteps.
I keep myself busy as I live alone. Make a point of phoning some not all, just some customers to keep myself on the straight and narrow, especially during the lousy winter months weather wise. If I feel anxiety coming on I make a point of taking time out to get away somewhere for a break and change of scenery.
Best thing anyone suffering depression can do is make sure they get dressed and go outside their front door every day so they don't become an introvert shying themselves away from others and to keep in contact with friends and relatives even when they feel unsociable
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Best thing anyone suffering depression can do is make sure they get dressed and go outside their front door every day
Yes. I am lucky I think, in that however bad Im feeling Ive always been able to do this which helps immediately. My sister is the same, she is also able to get up when she is down/depressed/low, but to not do this is the beginning of a downward spiral thats only going one way.
It was explained to me about a year ago the level of depression in my family. Which kinda helped too.
My grandmother on my mothers side committed suicide.
My mother was an alcoholic and depressive with borderline personality, who regularly threatened suicide.
My sister is a recovering alcoholic with depression.
My other sister is depressed.
One of my nieces has depression.
One of my other nieces has depression.
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Think it also highlights one of the important things about depression as well. There is depressing news and circumstances that can make ones depressed and then there is clinical depression which doesnt go away and you are totally dependant upon your medication. The sad part though is that anti depression tablets can actually add to your depression and suicidal thoughts. One such medication was what my mrs was on and if it wasnt for someone callingbon my mrs a while ago, she would have ended her life upstairs, whilst leaving my little ones downstairs watching a disney film. Thank fully it was identified that her meds had a large part in that and they were quickly changed and she hasnt gone down that rabbit hole again.
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I have had bouts of it, since 2017 in the months since my dad passed away. I never took anything for it and at first I didn’t know what was wrong with me or why I felt that way, it was my wife who worked it out and since then I have had the odd bout and now I know what causes it, I can manage it better.
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I wouldnt say I suffer with depression anymore since I stopped drinking,maybe a low mood sometimes esp working outside during this rubbish weather but like a few on here I find the gym lifts me up mentally, seeing family and friends,playing drums with my band,walking the dog and of course seeing my girlfriend,luckily shes like me,she loves sex and date nights which makes a hell of a difference to my mood(and our relationship).......IMO it cures everything and we both walk around with a large grins on our faces for a few days.....
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She loves sex lol,that what she tells you Daz they all like sex with the right bloke lol god the thought of it makes me depressed.
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I wouldnt say I suffer with depression anymore since I stopped drinking,maybe a low mood sometimes esp working outside during this rubbish weather but like a few on here I find the gym lifts me up mentally, seeing family and friends,playing drums with my band,walking the dog and of course seeing my girlfriend,luckily shes like me,she loves sex and date nights which makes a hell of a difference to my mood(and our relationship).......IMO it cures everything and we both walk around with a large grins on our faces for a few days.....
It's not luck, Daz; it's you; take the credit for it, mate.
I don't know what the fwig a date night is but I might try that sex thing when the weather picks up.
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I wouldnt say I suffer with depression anymore since I stopped drinking,maybe a low mood sometimes esp working outside during this rubbish weather but like a few on here I find the gym lifts me up mentally, seeing family and friends,playing drums with my band,walking the dog and of course seeing my girlfriend,luckily shes like me,she loves sex and date nights which makes a hell of a difference to my mood(and our relationship).......IMO it cures everything and we both walk around with a large grins on our faces for a few days.....
Brilliant as always! LOL!
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I wouldnt say I suffer with depression anymore since I stopped drinking,maybe a low mood sometimes esp working outside during this rubbish weather but like a few on here I find the gym lifts me up mentally, seeing family and friends,playing drums with my band,walking the dog and of course seeing my girlfriend,luckily shes like me,she loves sex and date nights which makes a hell of a difference to my mood(and our relationship).......IMO it cures everything and we both walk around with a large grins on our faces for a few days.....
It's not luck, Daz; it's you; take the credit for it, mate.
I don't know what the fwig a date night is but I might try that sex thing when the weather picks up.
a date night is when you both make an effort for each other,dress in your best clothes,maybe go for a nice meal and get back early for an "early night".....it does wonders for your relationship esp if you ve been with each other a while(7 and a half years me and the missus have been seeing each other)......my missus is great...she ll wear whatever i tell her to wear.....you ve got to keep your sex life fun and exciting IMO........it never fails to lift my mood(and hers!) into the stratosphere......
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What do you say to her can you dress up like a window cleaner with a hot system lol,not too hot though eh Daz a bit like yours lol.
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I think daz has this in mind
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1582734697_Screenshot_20200226-163055_Chrome.jpg)
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I wouldnt say I suffer with depression anymore since I stopped drinking,maybe a low mood sometimes esp working outside during this rubbish weather but like a few on here I find the gym lifts me up mentally, seeing family and friends,playing drums with my band,walking the dog and of course seeing my girlfriend,luckily shes like me,she loves sex and date nights which makes a hell of a difference to my mood(and our relationship).......IMO it cures everything and we both walk around with a large grins on our faces for a few days.....
It's not luck, Daz; it's you; take the credit for it, mate.
I don't know what the fwig a date night is but I might try that sex thing when the weather picks up.
a date night is when you both make an effort for each other,dress in your best clothes,maybe go for a nice meal and get back early for an "early night".....it does wonders for your relationship esp if you ve been with each other a while(7 and a half years me and the missus have been seeing each other)......my missus is great...she ll wear whatever i tell her to wear.....you ve got to keep your sex life fun and exciting IMO........it never fails to lift my mood(and hers!) into the stratosphere......
We've a little 'un- well, big young 'un- Daz, and we get a sitter once every blue moon.
I couldn't have an early night after a nice meal unless I just had a starter. And if my Missus would wear what I told her to, I'd tell her to put on her pyjamas and I'd head off to the pub.
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Back to being serious:
A few have mentioned diet helps. What foods do you recommend or avoid? I know alcohol isn't good but what about other foods and drinks.
Saying that, I do enjoy a drink- enjoy it too much- but it doesn't affect me too much these days.
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I suffered terribly about 10 years ago, mainly due to a couple of close family members passing away.
Went down the route of antidepressants for a year or so but was able to stop them and use positive thinking and exercise to overcome the depression.
I find that having loads to look forward too, holidays, weekends away, nights out etc really helps for me.
Also I try and set at least one day aside for myself every month to get into the mountains and get some real fresh air into my lungs, living within 90 minutes from Snowdonia, Lake District and Peak District really helps.
It’s really difficult to stay depressed after admiring the stunning views from the top of a mountain after hiking 10+ miles to get there.
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for me its getting the basics right first.....
1.not drinking alcohol
2.eating a (mainly good) diet
3.regular sleep pattern
4.exercise
5. keeping in touch with family and friends
6.keeping my hobbies/interests going
7.not doing too much each day(work hard but dont hammer it every day)
personally i think some forms of depression are caused(or made worse!) by people looking too inward at themselves and isolating themselves from family/friends coupled with a build up of stress due to poor diet,lack of sleep, and not opening up and expressing their feelings to their nearest and dearest,throw an addiction problem on top and its a recipe for cultivating a disaster movie mind with feelings of worthlessness,apathy and despair......
i find my adult life so much easier these days than in the past...when i was younger i didnt have a clue how to live well........
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You should also look into a vegan or plant life diet.
Its good for your well being, nutritionally speaking and for your skin etc as well.
For me, im about 80 per cent there and dont really miss meat nor cheese now. After a couple of weeks you do actually feel the difference. Its not fully about saving the planet etc for me doing so but more the health benefit side.
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You should also look into a vegan or plant life diet.
Its good for your well being, nutritionally speaking and for your skin etc as well.
For me, im about 80 per cent there and dont really miss meat nor cheese now. After a couple of weeks you do actually feel the difference. Its not fully about saving the planet etc for me doing so but more the health benefit side.
lifes too short to miss out on all that good food vegans CANT EAT!!
how can you not eat eggs,cheese,yoghurt,fillet steak,fish,chicken,ham,etc?i love it and will never give it up! 8)..i do like vegan food as well but not every day for the rest of my life.....
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The weather has a massive effect on you, however for the past few weeks (I do this a few times a year) is get obsessed with videos like this
https://youtu.be/GnWlERK0UJc
You need to reprogram your mind into thinking you are awesome and happy etc. Iv been going to sleep with this on my tv , waking up and watching it and watching it maybe once during the day if I have time. There are loads of videos like this and it will completely change you within a week. The results are amazing! Give it a try
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The weather has a massive effect on you, however for the past few weeks (I do this a few times a year) is get obsessed with videos like this
https://youtu.be/GnWlERK0UJc
You need to reprogram your mind into thinking you are awesome and happy etc. Iv been going to sleep with this on my tv , waking up and watching it and watching it maybe once during the day if I have time. There are loads of videos like this and it will completely change you within a week. The results are amazing! Give it a try
my missus calls me "dazmondo the great"........thats enough for me! :D
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Sounds like you should have been a carpenter Daz the amount of hammering you’ve been doing lol
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Something that I've picked up from this thread, is about not being alone.
I quite like my own company though. I know I'm part of a very close family but I need a bit of time to myself. Add my Mother-in-law coming round to ours and going to see my Dad to a busy schedule and I need some solitude.
I enjoy watching sport and listening to music (maybe some CIU) alone. Just me and my thoughts (and a few drinks).
If I was single or if my son was older it might be different.
Does anyone else feel like that they need that time alone?
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Something that I've picked up from this thread, is about not being alone.
I quite like my own company though. I know I'm part of a very close family but I need a bit of time to myself. Add my Mother-in-law coming round to ours and going to see my Dad to a busy schedule and I need some solitude.
I enjoy watching sport and listening to music (maybe some CIU) alone. Just me and my thoughts (and a few drinks).
If I was single or if my son was older it might be different.
Does anyone else feel like that they need that time alone?
of course griff.....its normal....why do you think guys that have been married for years have garages/sheds that they hide in sometimes....or some go fishing to get away........solitude is healthy as long as its not longer than a day or two.....
although i remember going to porto santo a few years ago with the missus and there was a old guy living in the rocks on the beach.....apparently he d lived on the island all his life and decided he wanted to live out the rest of the days by the beach away from his family.....absolutely stunning views to wake up to every morning......
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being a self employed window cleaner has gloriously positive benefits......
1.outdoor exercise
2.flexible
never underestimate these 2 things...imagine having to work in an office all day and not be able to go in late or knock off early when you want......
or setting an alarm clock and forcing yourself to get out of bed because if you dont you could lose your job if your late again...........that would be a nightmare for me.......
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Does anyone else feel like that they need that time alone?
Yes, I do. But sometimes it's a fine line between solitude and isolating.
Solitude is good.
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What it all boils down to with depression. Is your thoughts.
Control your thoughts and you control your life.
Meditation in particular mindfulness helps as does the gym etc.
But the problem with most of us is that we are too busy working and dealing with life at 100 miles an hour that we don't have any time to spend on us.
I haven't been to the gym for a long time, by the time I get home I just don't have the energy. I don't eat healthy because I don't have time to cook. I don't have time for hobbies because all weekend is taken up with doing what the family wants to do. I don't have time to meditate, go get a massage etc.
The list goes on we just put out heads down and plough through life feeling like a bag of poope.
They call it the rat race, and it's true we are just racing towards our graves without taking time to reflect and really enjoy life. Its all about money, which is a pointless pursuit in itself... No wonder we are all depressed.
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its always good to remember
The winner of the rat race is still a rat !!!!
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Does anyone else feel like that they need that time alone?
Yes, I do. But sometimes it's a fine line between solitude and isolating.
Solitude is good.
Good point.
There's a difference between doing it and having to do it. And I suppose the first could lead to the second.
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What it all boils down to with depression. Is your thoughts.
Control your thoughts and you control your life.
Meditation in particular mindfulness helps as does the gym etc.
But the problem with most of us is that we are too busy working and dealing with life at 100 miles an hour that we don't have any time to spend on us.
I haven't been to the gym for a long time, by the time I get home I just don't have the energy. I don't eat healthy because I don't have time to cook. I don't have time for hobbies because all weekend is taken up with doing what the family wants to do. I don't have time to meditate, go get a massage etc.
The list goes on we just put out heads down and plough through life feeling like a bag of poope.
They call it the rat race, and it's true we are just racing towards our graves without taking time to reflect and really enjoy life. Its all about money, which is a pointless pursuit in itself... No wonder we are all depressed.
You have to make time, Gomo.
But I agree that too many of us don't.
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Back to being serious:
A few have mentioned diet helps. What foods do you recommend or avoid? I know alcohol isn't good but what about other foods and drinks.
Saying that, I do enjoy a drink- enjoy it too much- but it doesn't affect me too much these days.
Caffeine or anything high in sugar would be best avoided, they both can give you a buzz which is then followed by a low.
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Back to being serious:
A few have mentioned diet helps. What foods do you recommend or avoid? I know alcohol isn't good but what about other foods and drinks.
Saying that, I do enjoy a drink- enjoy it too much- but it doesn't affect me too much these days.
Caffeine or anything high in sugar would be best avoided, they both can give you a buzz which is then followed by a low.
That's so true.. it takes a lot of willpower because sugar is so addictive
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Brilliant post Gomo, my life exactly.
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What it all boils down to with depression. Is your thoughts.
Control your thoughts and you control your life.
Meditation in particular mindfulness helps as does the gym etc.
But the problem with most of us is that we are too busy working and dealing with life at 100 miles an hour that we don't have any time to spend on us.
I haven't been to the gym for a long time, by the time I get home I just don't have the energy. I don't eat healthy because I don't have time to cook. I don't have time for hobbies because all weekend is taken up with doing what the family wants to do. I don't have time to meditate, go get a massage etc.
The list goes on we just put out heads down and plough through life feeling like a bag of poope.
They call it the rat race, and it's true we are just racing towards our graves without taking time to reflect and really enjoy life. Its all about money, which is a pointless pursuit in itself... No wonder we are all depressed.
Pretty much the same here. I am not working for myself this week as I have no van atm. The last one was costing me so much in repairs I had enough and sold it. I did not want to make the mistake of buying in haste, so I have been waiting for the right van to turn up . I think I have found it, and will see it early next week. As many on here know, I do a bit of part time coach driving,as it alleviates the boredom of window cleaning, although in some cases it can be worse, driving for a few hours,then sitting in your a r s e for another few until it’s time to come home. So this week I have had a couple of days driving work, off for rest of the week but might have some work next week before I get the new van. This is the only time I will get to just chill, although I can’t do anything without transport unless I walk down to where the Mrs works and get the car, a mile and a half walk.
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Feel the fear and do it anyway by Susan Jeffers,read it she makes sense if it all.
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i did a couple of hours this morning 8am-1030am....(mainly commercial jobs) then home for some early lunch then ive just had some sports physio and acupuncture for my back(he comes to your house)...great bloke and only charges £35 a session....
i feel amazing...he s really loosened up my back for me......ive now got the rest of the afternoon off to chill now.....i couldnt do that if i worked full time for someone else! :D
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What it all boils down to with depression. Is your thoughts.
Control your thoughts and you control your life.
Meditation in particular mindfulness helps as does the gym etc.
But the problem with most of us is that we are too busy working and dealing with life at 100 miles an hour that we don't have any time to spend on us.
I haven't been to the gym for a long time, by the time I get home I just don't have the energy. I don't eat healthy because I don't have time to cook. I don't have time for hobbies because all weekend is taken up with doing what the family wants to do. I don't have time to meditate, go get a massage etc.
The list goes on we just put out heads down and plough through life feeling like a bag of poope.
They call it the rat race, and it's true we are just racing towards our graves without taking time to reflect and really enjoy life. Its all about money, which is a pointless pursuit in itself... No wonder we are all depressed.
sounds like your looking for excuses to me.....of course you ve got time to cook decent food and train in the gym 2 or 3 hours a week....you just dont want to.........lots of family guys go to my local gym....put it into perspective ITS 3 HOURS OF YOUR WEEK!!if you cant find 3 hours then theres something wrong.....its easy to cook healthy food once your into a routine and you know what to cook.......
one day you ll wake up and your kids will be grown up and you ll be unfit and out of shape with a bag for a belly and wonder what happened..... ;D
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I do tend to agree with Daz about not having the time, I used that excuse myself for many years too.
I have a young family, demanding wife and a house and garden to maintain and improve aswell as my business but it’s still possible to find time for me if I make it a priority.
I’ve friends that tell me they don’t have the time to go running/gym/whatever but their kids are in bed by 8pm and they then sit and watch tv until midnight. It’s just a personal choice not to make the time really.
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I don’t have time to clean windows really.
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Exercise does help but it’s not a cure. Depression (proper depression) is an illness that comes back time and time again. Most of us can be diagnosed as grumpy old twats and not proper depressives.
My local gym instructor took his own life on New Years Day at the age of 27. Lovely guy, laugh a minute, fit as a fiddle, gorgeous girlfriend and loved by all the women.
Who knows what was going on in his head?
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https://www.facebook.com/1garethwynjones/videos/1983029651821825/
Never liked this bloke until recently. My mistake, I misjudged him big time.
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What it all boils down to with depression. Is your thoughts.
Control your thoughts and you control your life.
Meditation in particular mindfulness helps as does the gym etc.
But the problem with most of us is that we are too busy working and dealing with life at 100 miles an hour that we don't have any time to spend on us.
I haven't been to the gym for a long time, by the time I get home I just don't have the energy. I don't eat healthy because I don't have time to cook. I don't have time for hobbies because all weekend is taken up with doing what the family wants to do. I don't have time to meditate, go get a massage etc.
The list goes on we just put out heads down and plough through life feeling like a bag of poope.
They call it the rat race, and it's true we are just racing towards our graves without taking time to reflect and really enjoy life. Its all about money, which is a pointless pursuit in itself... No wonder we are all depressed.
sounds like your looking for excuses to me.....of course you ve got time to cook decent food and train in the gym 2 or 3 hours a week....you just dont want to.........lots of family guys go to my local gym....put it into perspective ITS 3 HOURS OF YOUR WEEK!!if you cant find 3 hours then theres something wrong.....its easy to cook healthy food once your into a routine and you know what to cook.......
one day you ll wake up and your kids will be grown up and you ll be unfit and out of shape with a bag for a belly and wonder what happened..... ;D
Yes but the thread is about depression.
Of course I have time to cook, exercise and look after my health.
But after a days work and all the other things I have to do I can't be arsed and don't have the energy. The reason people sit down is because they are knackered and depressed lol
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ive just remembered a few years ago that you told us you have a heart condition adam i think?....thats probably why you re knackered after a days work at your age.......
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I live within my means. Hate being a slave to work and like time out whenever I choose.
Being under financial and time obligations are all unnecessary anxieties some people choose to put themselves through.
You can't take material things with you to heaven.
It's all about people, family and friends.
Towards later life you realise you didn't need half the stuff you accumulated so why be the busy fool if you aint going to enjoy life along the way.
Keep life simple and make time for yourself and those important to you
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Wake up each morning and watch videos like these
https://youtu.be/8-s_KXa0sqQ
‘WHAT WE DWELL ON IS WHO WE BECOME’
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Bit late to the party but i add my pennies worth
yes i had a total mental breakdown,after the break up of my marriage losing my dad to cancer.
i couldnt leave the house with out shaking to death and crying my eyes out ,i couldnt look anyone in the eye,the thought of some one talking to me was a scary thought and i couldnt,I was a total shadow of my former self.i lied on the settee for days crying,i could'nt see anything positive and nothing seemed straight forward,and i didn't want to be a problem to anyone and i was in my eyes,
my now wife was strong thank god and got me to the doctors,where i broke down and said "i dont want to be here" i could think of anything straight forward,it was a very dark place
out come
two years of anti depressions,it took longer to come off them than i was on them, 3months off work,and this is why i took up window cleaning and packed in a well paid managers job,i set my self small achievable goals and took each day at a time,i exercise and the wife started running with me,i talked and learnt to talk about my problem,its not shameful,and i learnt to read the signs when i am going back to that dark place,sometimes i get it right and dont but other times i dont get it right and i hit that dark place
alcohol was a big problem because it made me the person i wasnt,in fact it made the problems bigger and worst,and the bottom of the glass doesnt talk to you...fact
active now, more positive out look and where i want and want to go,somtimes it doesnt work but i have very good friends who i can talk to and i total trust them,and i also learnt never to old to learn somthing new,and when i do get Anxiety i have afew sample ways to cope with it,but its learning it all the time
slacky want to call then please do
now
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Has anyone tried psychedelics as a means to treat depression? There has been some amazing recent studies on the positive effects of psilocybin to treat mental health, There is a really good episode of 'The mind explained' on netflix that talks about this. Also a podcast called 'Making Sense' by Sam Harris which talks about this in depth. I have been seriously considering this for some time now but am a little apprehensive.
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Wake up each morning and watch videos like these
https://youtu.be/8-s_KXa0sqQ
‘WHAT WE DWELL ON IS WHO WE BECOME’
What we dwell on is what we become eh
I’ll be a porn star then lol.
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Time goes by like a breeze just passing through the song says,I know it’s so easy to say it but life is short.
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Wake up each morning and watch videos like these
https://youtu.be/8-s_KXa0sqQ
‘WHAT WE DWELL ON IS WHO WE BECOME’
What we dwell on is what we become eh
I’ll be a porn star then lol.
If that’s what you really want to be then I’m sure you’d find a way of becoming one
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Has anyone tried psychedelics as a means to treat depression? There has been some amazing recent studies on the positive effects of psilocybin to treat mental health, There is a really good episode of 'The mind explained' on netflix that talks about this. Also a podcast called 'Making Sense' by Sam Harris which talks about this in depth. I have been seriously considering this for some time now but am a little apprehensive.
yep...i took plenty of LSD back in my youth.....it certainly gives you a whole different perspective on life.....i word of caution though....some people can have terrible trips and never fully recover.....i know some guys who ve never taken half as many drugs as me and they went a bit insane.....
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Ah, that explains a lot!
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i know some guys who ve never taken half as many drugs as me and they went a bit insane.....
What makes you think you didn't?
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i know some guys who ve never taken half as many drugs as me and they went a bit insane.....
What makes you think you didn't?
ive never been locked up in a mental ward or sectioned like they have..... ;D