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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ed. on February 20, 2020, 11:48:44 am
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If it was near other jobs £30 4 wkly or £40 8 wkly
South Yorkshire pricing
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£40 including conservatory
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Donny
House would be £30 4 wkly or 40 8 weekly and then £20 for the conservatory. I price these jobs that way as some have the house cleaned every 4 weeks and the conny every 8 weeks.
(So £30 clean 1 and £50 every 2nd clean)
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Must be lots of birds about today all can hear is cheap cheap lol,lots like this I charge nowhere near a poxy 30 quid.
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£50.
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Donny
House would be £30 4 wkly or 40 8 weekly and then £20 for the conservatory. I price these jobs that way as some have the house cleaned every 4 weeks and the conny every 8 weeks.
(So £30 clean 1 and £50 every 2nd clean)
Can always rely on Nathan to massively over complicate an otherwise very straightforward job.
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Donny
House would be £30 4 wkly or 40 8 weekly and then £20 for the conservatory. I price these jobs that way as some have the house cleaned every 4 weeks and the conny every 8 weeks.
(So £30 clean 1 and £50 every 2nd clean)
Can always rely on Nathan to massively over complicate an otherwise very straightforward job.
No complication mate if you know your area!
Many in my areas will not be happy to pay £50 every 4 weeks. Whereas £30 every 4 weeks and conny every 8 wks is manageable and this works very well. Yes it could be an 8 weekly job at 60 but i prefer to make £80 from the two cleans and thus every clean is a maintenance clean. Keeping it easy money.
This works well here, but each to their own
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Must be lots of birds about today all can hear is cheap cheap lol,lots like this I charge nowhere near a poxy 30 quid.
The question put to us, is, what would you charge? Not what you wouldnt.
(My 30 was house only)
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They wouldn’t be happy to pay 50 quid every 4 weeks hence I don’t clean anything 4 weekly,that house and conservatory bottom glass only is worth 50 all week long.
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I wouldn’t want to clean 3 in a row like that for 30 each Nathan,I’d be losing at least 60 quid.
No wonder some huge window cleaning companies have got 1000s of customers they are all too cheap no wonder they keep there work,clean that from a ladder and ask for 30 quid when you are done we don’t use a ladder but we’ve most of us a lot more expenses nowadays I factor that in to my prices I wouldn’t want it for 30 if I got others up the road for twice that.
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It’s grim up North lol.
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Totally agree that 30 for the whole thing is way too little. Sadly there are some who would charge this and less. I went to charge quite a large property and priced at £100 per clean. Her jaw nearly hit the floor and when she said the previous lad did it for £30 my jaw hit the floor 🤦♂️
My £30 was for the house only and £50 including the conny windows (lol not roof!)
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Mine doesn’t include the roof I’d do the first roof clean for 130 then 80 from then onwards roughly.
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The funny thing is where is the other cleaner now for his 30 quid he doesn’t come anymore does he,the times I’ve heard this and my reply is as I say where is he now woke up hasn’t he.
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Another thing I don’t agree with is having a price list on a website 4-5 bed houses for 27-30 quid,I’d like to see the business owner knocking them out for that price lol bung an extra 5 quid on for a conservatory etc.
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£42
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Donny
House would be £30 4 wkly or 40 8 weekly and then £20 for the conservatory. I price these jobs that way as some have the house cleaned every 4 weeks and the conny every 8 weeks.
(So £30 clean 1 and £50 every 2nd clean)
Can always rely on Nathan to massively over complicate an otherwise very straightforward job.
Nathan could knock out 35 of them with conservatory in a day so at £50 to £60 a pop we have a new CIU daily earnings record, I knew it was only a matter of time before Nathan took this record. Lol.
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I know you like your 4 weekly jobs Nathan but you’d earn far more doing them less often for more money,if you were completing the same amount of jobs just think how much more you’d be earning.
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I know you like your 4 weekly jobs Nathan but you’d earn far more doing them less often for more money,if you were completing the same amount of jobs just think how much more you’d be earning.
Yep, as ive said many a times i offer 4 or 8 wkly prices. So i mentioned on this pic, that it would be £40 every 8 wkly with £20 on top for the conny windows, so £60 every 8 wks if they wanted.
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My quote would be sent via text like this-:
Good evening,
Your quote for regular window cleaning to your property is as follows.On your first visit your windows will be cleaned twice first a hot water deep soap clean.
Secondly the glass is cleaned again using purified polished water, therefore your first clean will have a one-off additional charge added on top of your regular clean. Your 1st clean will be £58 then £45 once every 2 months or £30 once a month thereafter for all glass,frames,sills + door panels including conservatory.
If your happy with your quote and would like to go ahead please text us back the frequency you would like so we can book you into our round for your first clean.
Many thanks Dean.
1st clean would take approx an hour then regular clean approx 30 mins after.
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Donny
House would be £30 4 wkly or 40 8 weekly and then £20 for the conservatory. I price these jobs that way as some have the house cleaned every 4 weeks and the conny every 8 weeks.
(So £30 clean 1 and £50 every 2nd clean)
Can always rely on Nathan to massively over complicate an otherwise very straightforward job.
Nathan could knock out 35 of them with conservatory in a day so at £50 to £60 a pop we have a new CIU daily earnings record, I knew it was only a matter of time before Nathan took this record. Lol.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ 😴😴😴😴
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The difference between your cleans dirt wise is negligible realistically Nathan,what I’m saying if you offered longer period between cleans you could charge more and therefore earn more.
The jobs wouldn’t take you any longer to clean you’d get more per job so you’d be doing the same work for way more money,you wouldn’t need to rush round to do them every 4 weeks either tbh people in the main don’t care if you are a little late turning up.
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As an example say you did charge 30 quid for that job and I charged 50 imagine if our prices where that different but over the course of the week we clean the same amount of jobs number wise,that’s a huge difference more than enough to pay an employee and you’d still have more in your pocket.
I think we take pricing for granted when taking on a job with how important it is from the start,you’ve only got to getting a fraction under what you could be getting and over the course of the year it’s massive.
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As an example say you did charge 30 quid for that job and I charged 50 imagine if our prices where that different but over the course of the week we clean the same amount of jobs number wise,that’s a huge difference more than enough to pay an employee and you’d still have more in your pocket.
I think we take pricing for granted when taking on a job with how important it is from the start,you’ve only got to getting a fraction under what you could be getting and over the course of the year it’s massive.
This is like beating a dead horse.
I clean 4 and 8 wkly work and so i know i charge more for 8 wkly and how it works.
Your price of 50 includes the conservatory windows does it not? Exactly the same as what i said, 30 for the house n 20 for the conservatory equals £50 per clean. However i said if it was 8 wkly it would be £40 for the house, plus £20 for conservatory so it would be £60 every 8 wks.
Yet I appreciate where your coming from with your explanations, but please understand mine as our prices were somewhat the same
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No Nathan I don’t think your prices are the same as mine going by what you’ve said about prices in the past,I appreciate you work in different part of the country I wouldn’t get my prices in your area but you’d be rushed off your feet in mine with yours.
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Lovely straightforward job, I'd do it for £40.
But I would be up-selling big time.
The walls need cleaning, patio, driveway, conny roof etc etc
That could be a nice little earner.
I'd get that whole place looking mint!
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No Nathan I don’t think your prices are the same as mine going by what you’ve said about prices in the past,I appreciate you work in different part of the country I wouldn’t get my prices in your area but you’d be rushed off your feet in mine with yours.
Again mate, you are not reading this in the context of this thread or post.
You priced this job at 50 you said and kept on harping on about me quoting 30 when the actual price combined is either 50 or 60 and not the 30 you keep harping on about.
So on this job, you priced at 50 8 wkly and mine was 40 for house plus 20 for conservatory windows making mine £60 8 wkly. Hence a similar price.
I cant explain it any easier.
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No Nathan I don’t think your prices are the same as mine going by what you’ve said about prices in the past,I appreciate you work in different part of the country I wouldn’t get my prices in your area but you’d be rushed off your feet in mine with yours.
Again mate, you are not reading this in the context of this thread or post.
You priced this job at 50 you said and kept on harping on about me quoting 30 when the actual price combined is either 50 or 60 and not the 30 you keep harping on about.
So on this job, you priced at 50 8 wkly and mine was 40 for house plus 20 for conservatory windows making mine £60 8 wkly. Hence a similar price.
I cant explain it any easier.
Get a grip Nathan, we have all seen your prices in the past and know you get nowhere near what you claim to be getting now, like I said if you did get what you now claim going my the amount of properties you claim to get through in a day you would be the richest shiner on here by a long shot, that said I suspect like most of us you get more than enough to keep you in the game, why you now feel the need to compete with the other BS'ers on here is beyond me.
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No Nathan I don’t think your prices are the same as mine going by what you’ve said about prices in the past,I appreciate you work in different part of the country I wouldn’t get my prices in your area but you’d be rushed off your feet in mine with yours.
Again mate, you are not reading this in the context of this thread or post.
You priced this job at 50 you said and kept on harping on about me quoting 30 when the actual price combined is either 50 or 60 and not the 30 you keep harping on about.
So on this job, you priced at 50 8 wkly and mine was 40 for house plus 20 for conservatory windows making mine £60 8 wkly. Hence a similar price.
I cant explain it any easier.
Get a grip Nathan, we have all seen your prices in the past and know you get nowhere near what you claim to be getting now, like I said if you did get what you now claim going my the amount of properties you claim to get through in a day you would be the richest shiner on here by a long shot, that said I suspect like most of us you get more than enough to keep you in the game, why you now feel the need to compete with the other BS'ers on here is beyond me.
I dont live in the past mate, ive always said my prices before coming on here were not the best and i even posted how ive not put some prices up for a number of years. In addition to this, ive posted how ive sold some rounds off as I have rapidly grown in additional villages with some very good prices, one of which is where i charge 30 for the house and the 2nd clean includes a conny for £20. This isnt to be boastful as put these prices into london for instance and they will have to be drastically changed. If you use some of the facebook groups you will have seen my posts on pricing etc many a times. You know its me as i dont hide, i use my name for all to see and check out. So what do i have to gain by fabricating the truth as ones who know me in the areas could call me out if I was!
Ive also posted recently how i tire of these comments regarding how many one can clean in a day, because quite frankly I dont care if you believe me or not. However i will defend myself. I also showed one estate, showing the size of the houses where i made my claims etc and my apologies if you cant after years of knowing your rounds, that you can not work faster or smarter than you are, if you so desired. However today, i dont count how many houses i clean in a day, i have other more pressing things to worry about.
Yet, this forum gives a slight escape and im happy to bite, happy to help and happy to continue to post.
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id charge £50 (8 or 12 weekly)including conny...£60 first clean....that job will take around an hour on maintenance cleans,maybe a bit less.....
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Once cleaned an easy job half an hour at most the price still wouldn’t come into though,there’s a fair bit of glass with the conny bottoms easy access some huge window cleaning
Companies would clean that for 10 quid though just to steal it from a hard working shiner.
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Don’t forget Ed is in the Kent area where the average house price is over £300k
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Once cleaned an easy job half an hour at most the price still wouldn’t come into though,there’s a fair bit of glass with the conny bottoms easy access some huge window cleaning
Companies would clean that for 10 quid though just to steal it from a hard working shiner.
your right nigel...that job would take around 30 mins on maintenance cleans but if it was a stand alone job (a bit out of the way)
then id have to factor in driving time...thats why id charge £50
if it was right near other work then id clean that property for £40 no problem...ive actually been undercut on work like this before though.....i lost a similar job last year to a windy who charges £25.....
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the more interesting conclusion from this thread is that its more lucrative for us to build a round of less frequent work priced higher than more frequent work for a cheaper price
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the more interesting conclusion from this thread is that its more lucrative for us to build a round of less frequent work priced higher than more frequent work for a cheaper price
Yeah as you know you can clean 1 for 50 or 2 for 40 what would you choose to do it’s a no brainier,the most important thing in this job and although it seems obvious many don’t put enough thought into it when first pricing you must factor everything into your quote.
It wouldn’t take me long to get peed off cleaning jobs like that for 25-30 quid a pop,some people have said they’ve been undercut on jobs like this and have got the job for the above price i would just jog on and forget it.
Once you name your price and start cleaning it you can’t go back on it really how many times have you looked at a new job and they’ve said he just didn’t bother coming back and he only charged X,these people ruin it for us all and is why for years this job has been looked down on.
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the more interesting conclusion from this thread is that its more lucrative for us to build a round of less frequent work priced higher than more frequent work for a cheaper price
depends.....if you have lots of cheaper work thats very compact (4 weekly) you can bang them out and still hit a great hourly rate...the longer frequency jobs are usually larger with a bit of driving between jobs.....i have a mixture of both but prefer longer frequency jobs these days.....
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
True, i personally dont understand that line of thinking. Ie, its on the same street, its the neighbour or if i have a run of houses etc etc. For me its individual pricing and each job is priced according to that house, irrelevant if its in the same area. The only thing I consider is that it would be an even higher charge if im going out my way to clean said house, but i would sooner have a run of say £30 houses rather than discounting them three to say £25 just because they are next to each other and loose out on £15 for insyance.
(For argument sake, these prices have just been plucked from the air lol)
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
i disagree.....if you have the monopoly in an area then its common sense...i have over 300 jobs in a 2 mile area built up over many years......i still get undercut from time to time...theres lots of competition.....if i have to go out of my way then the price goes up to factor in travel time....no need if im banging them out and their all close
remember i only do 3000 miles a year in my van every year! 8)
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
True, i personally dont understand that line of thinking. Ie, its on the same street, its the neighbour or if i have a run of houses etc etc. For me its individual pricing and each job is priced according to that house, irrelevant if its in the same area. The only thing I consider is that it would be an even higher charge if im going out my way to clean said house, but i would sooner have a run of say £30 houses rather than discounting them three to say £25 just because they are next to each other and loose out on £15 for insyance.
(For argument sake, these prices have just been plucked from the air lol)
Read back what you have said, just like NWH you're contradicting yourself, you're going to charge the same for a property that's in an area where you already clean so the fact that you would charge more for a similar house that's out of your way shows that these houses are discounted because you have more than one.
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Yeah listen Nathan man listen this is coming from a cold water cleaner as well,get a grip Nathan lol lol,he’s probably got a van full of orange poles too you should listen to him.
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
I think most of us would agree that if we priced our properties as stand alone we would never win any work, I could do 10 properties that are close together a lot quicker easier and cheaper than 10 properties that have a 5 mile drive between each one so off course I'm going to price them cheaper to allow for this.
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Yeah listen Nathan man listen this is coming from a cold water cleaner as well,get a grip Nathan lol lol,he’s probably got a van full of orange poles too you should listen to him.
According to Alex Gardiner its you who has the orange poles NWH, do you ever tell the truth lol.
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
True, i personally dont understand that line of thinking. Ie, its on the same street, its the neighbour or if i have a run of houses etc etc. For me its individual pricing and each job is priced according to that house, irrelevant if its in the same area. The only thing I consider is that it would be an even higher charge if im going out my way to clean said house, but i would sooner have a run of say £30 houses rather than discounting them three to say £25 just because they are next to each other and loose out on £15 for insyance.
(For argument sake, these prices have just been plucked from the air lol)
Read back what you have said, just like NWH you're contradicting yourself, you're going to charge the same for a property that's in an area where you already clean so the fact that you would charge more for a similar house that's out of your way shows that these houses are discounted because you have more than one.
It depends on your view point doesnt it. Your a glass half empty type of guy im guessing lol.
I see it as these houses are normal priced and the stand along house is an increased price.
Whereas from your viewpoint, the many are discounted compared to the one stand alone house.
Thats why most of us will never agree as we all have different view points on so many aspects
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
I think most of us would agree that if we priced our properties as stand alone we would never win any work, I could do 10 properties that are close together a lot quicker easier and cheaper than 10 properties that have a 5 mile drive between each one so off course I'm going to price them cheaper to allow for this.
I doubt it not if someone’s 5 mile to each properties drive was making them 75-80 quid a pop,correct me if I’m wrong.
And as for the brush business I’m not down as buying brushes as frequently as you would think because I have about 15 of there brushes in my van and about 10 of them were testers.
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This thread and these prices quoted are for that little house above without the plastic back lol,it’s not a big house Dry clean.
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it’s a no brainier
There's irony, right there.
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Lot of people selling thereselves like a cheap tart at 30 quid to clean all them windows,clean it for 20-30 quid under what you should be for 10 years let’s say every month.
Let’s say a loss of 2400 over 10 years on 1 job,I’d say that’s good business sense to just rock up and say yeah alright love call it 30 knicker.
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
I think most of us would agree that if we priced our properties as stand alone we would never win any work, I could do 10 properties that are close together a lot quicker easier and cheaper than 10 properties that have a 5 mile drive between each one so off course I'm going to price them cheaper to allow for this.
I doubt it not if someone’s 5 mile to each properties drive was making them 75-80 quid a pop,correct me if I’m wrong.
And as for the brush business I’m not down as buying brushes as frequently as you would think because I have about 15 of there brushes in my van and about 10 of them were testers.
After slating his brushes it’s highly unlikely you’ll be getting anymore testers.......If ( as you claim ) you did get 10 testers off Alex don’t you think it’s a bit below the belt to then rip his brushes to bits on an open forum? That’s gratitude for you.
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That’s when you come unstuck I’ve got 3 next to each other I can do them cheaper,I never do that that’s when they can become not worth doing.
It starts off well then 2 move and then you are going to there to clean 1 instead of 3 at a discounted price,if it’s a 50 quid job that’s what it is and it would be the same for next door I want to earn a living I’m not going out in the cold to do favours or to get 3 in a row because I can then discount them that’s a pointless exercise.
True, i personally dont understand that line of thinking. Ie, its on the same street, its the neighbour or if i have a run of houses etc etc. For me its individual pricing and each job is priced according to that house, irrelevant if its in the same area. The only thing I consider is that it would be an even higher charge if im going out my way to clean said house, but i would sooner have a run of say £30 houses rather than discounting them three to say £25 just because they are next to each other and loose out on £15 for insyance.
(For argument sake, these prices have just been plucked from the air lol)
Read back what you have said, just like NWH you're contradicting yourself, you're going to charge the same for a property that's in an area where you already clean so the fact that you would charge more for a similar house that's out of your way shows that these houses are discounted because you have more than one.
It depends on your view point doesnt it. Your a glass half empty type of guy im guessing lol.
I see it as these houses are normal priced and the stand along house is an increased price.
Whereas from your viewpoint, the many are discounted compared to the one stand alone house.
Thats why most of us will never agree as we all have different view points on so many aspects
Again stay off Faceache, learn the difference in a point of view and a fact, your so called normal houses are priced cheaper/discounted for a reason, what is that reason ?
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So, sean your telling me that if you get to do a job which is away from your normal priced work (which is still good priced work) that this job wouldnt be priced higher? Or are you claiming that the new job would be the normal price because you are simply not applying a so called discount because its not part of your normal work?
2nd, i would argue that i have posted on my website and stated on here that I have a min charge of £10. So if i have 100 houses in that area at £10 a job for instance and then I have a new job further away. I choose to charge £15 for example because its further away etc. Which is the correct price // which is the discounted price and / or inflated price?
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Do you guys ever do anything else with your lives? Or do you just sit on here and bicker over something pathetically pointless?
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I’ve looked on a few big hitters websites and the prices are very cheap imo,no wonder leaflets work,I’m tempted to get one of em to clean my house lol.
As for the brushes I’ll always give an honest opinion open forum or not,at the end of the day as long as a brush is light when you use hot water you’ve just got to get it on the glass to clean it the water does it’s job,what I don’t like is how a brush has next to no longevity to it that’s all.
I clean all types of windows new houses old houses I’m probably the best tester he’s had lol,1 row of bristles will never last long enough with cold water let alone hot.
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Do you guys ever do anything else with your lives? Or do you just sit on here and bicker over something pathetically pointless?
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Remarkable aren't they.
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No bickering going on here just stating facts about pricing and how some window cleaners are still going around doing 50-60 pound jobs for half the price because they are terrified they might all of a sudden lose all there work.
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What the point of even asking what someone else would charge
In my area 25 - 30 would be about the best I could hope to get for that.
Looks about 30 mins work.
Makes no odds to me that someone down south can get double that.
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Then why doesn’t the person say I live in X what’s achievable on price with this property,down south you wouldn’t even consider £30 to clean it,when you say you would get £60 all day long people then think you are either provoking argument or bragging.
At the end of the day you get what you are happy with,my point was if you were to go round quoting that down south you would have lots of work but would struggle to pay your mortgage unless you thought you’d be able to clean 15-20 of em a day.
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Do you guys ever do anything else with your lives? Or do you just sit on here and bicker over something pathetically pointless?
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Would any of us be on a window cleaning forum if we had lives. lol
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Good post here in south London this is a 20 25 pound job
I kid you not
Every day I see. A new van or car with ladders on
There must be hundreds cleaners or so round here all driving prices down the days of doing a whole street have long gone now it's like the cafe or barbers same amount of coustomers but more shops
Low prices and high costs it's not the job it once was
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That conservatory would take no time to do....dead straight forward run.