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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ed. on January 26, 2020, 04:53:03 pm

Title: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Ed. on January 26, 2020, 04:53:03 pm
So today had women message me for a full gutter clean outside only and down pips and all windows and conservatory clean. I charged 235 sorry keep asking  just helps me out lol been in the game for years but pricing side of it never had to deal with as always worked for company’s. She didn’t replay to me so take it was a no lol had loads of people message me lately about conservatory and gutter clean just outside of them.  But only got like 4 of them out of 12 but from what all you lot are saying im charging right prices so gonna stick to what im doing. Thanks all the advice 👍😀
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Ed. on January 26, 2020, 04:53:53 pm
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Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Ed. on January 26, 2020, 04:54:36 pm
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Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Ed. on January 26, 2020, 04:58:33 pm
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Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Don Kee on January 26, 2020, 05:16:07 pm
So front and back gutters (nothing on side) and a small polycarbonate conservatory roof.

Were you wearing a black and white stripy jumper and a face mask when you quoted it?

Two ish hours work mate, you’d be on £113 an hour on your quotation!
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Slacky on January 26, 2020, 05:34:37 pm
Thats 20 minutes for Daz.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on January 26, 2020, 05:38:16 pm
Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.

Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: SB Cleaning on January 26, 2020, 05:44:33 pm
Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.
£100 for a conny roof min price?
Are you for real ;D
I wouldn't get any at that price, I would do that roof in about a hour and charge £50.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: NWH on January 26, 2020, 05:46:08 pm
Don’t price it anywhere near your window cleaning prices I only do jobs like that myself if it pays really well,it’s 10x harder than cleaning windows.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on January 26, 2020, 05:49:02 pm
Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.
£100 for a conny roof min price?
Are you for real ;D
I wouldn't get any at that price, I would do that roof in about a hour and charge £50.

Yep and thankfully i get them, not all mind you, but about 70 percent of quotes. I also dont base my prices on time
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: deeege on January 26, 2020, 07:24:33 pm
Where are you getting these leads from? Not being funny but all the pics you posted are low end council properties yet you are charging high end premium prices.

If you need the work (which you obviously do to be getting upset about not winning every job) then maybe cater your quotes more toward the type of person/property you are quoting.

I’d expect to get £235 for that job maybe 5% of the time.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Richard Groves on January 26, 2020, 07:57:33 pm
As others have said seems a bit excessive for that property. Looks like a polycarb roof too. I'd be happy with £150 max for that. Its a two hour job for me. But I suppose it depends on how fast and competently you can work ( no offense intended ) and what you need to earn for a given length of  time as to what you charge.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Stoots on January 26, 2020, 10:15:44 pm
I would say that's extortionate but it depends where you are.

I can't imagine me ever getting that price accepted for that job.

I would have quoted about half that and I wouldn't expect to get it either.


So if you are getting 1 in 3 at that price keep going, lookd like a couple hours or  a very steady mornings work. Bang 2 out of these a day and you are laughing.



As for pricing you really need to price according to what percentage of work you want.

If you are flat out why go cheap to win more work that you cant do. May as well price top end then if you get it great.

Likewise if you need to full your books then lower prices OR increase your marketting so you get more leads

I get about 50% of everything I quote from fsg to windows, I'm happy with that for my level of growth required.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Jonny Swirljet on January 27, 2020, 05:33:36 am
There is always a pause between submitting a quote and receiving a reply, because she's asked other contractors to quote as well.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Don Kee on January 27, 2020, 07:56:32 am
Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.

Lol


OP, just because someone posts a lot on a forum, doesn’t mean they actually know what they’re talking about.
It just means they have a lot of time to post on an internet forum.
Usually in the middle of a working day when instead they could be cleaning gutters and fascias for £180...
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: dazmond on January 27, 2020, 08:52:12 am
Most of us have cleaned jobs like these many times over the years.......that's a 2 hour job IMO....

It is filthy...look at the state of the gutters!I'd want £150 for that.....if it wasn't quite as dirty...£120


To the OP....your obviously pricing too high as your not getting any of these jobs....

Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Splash & dash on January 27, 2020, 08:53:50 am
Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.

Lol


OP, just because someone posts a lot on a forum, doesn’t mean they actually know what they’re talking about.
It just means they have a lot of time to post on an internet forum.
Usually in the middle of a working day when instead they could be cleaning gutters and fascias for £180...




I agree with you but some employ and have plenty of time to post during the working day , as they are supervising staff
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on January 27, 2020, 10:45:52 am
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Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.

Lol


OP, just because someone posts a lot on a forum, doesn’t mean they actually know what they’re talking about.
It just means they have a lot of time to post on an internet forum.
Usually in the middle of a working day when instead they could be cleaning gutters and fascias for £180...

 ;D ;D ;D or some price appropriately and dont have to work every minute of the day.   
You lot make me laugh, having a pop if i post during the day, just because some of you feel you actually do have to work solid throughout the day...........i remember those day.....
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on January 27, 2020, 10:52:01 am
There is always a pause between submitting a quote and receiving a reply, because she's asked other contractors to quote as well.


(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580122087_20200122_094404.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580122110_20200122_094350.jpg)

A quick soft wash job, which i quoted for a couple of wks back.  Didnt think i got the the job because up until i gave them a quote, she was texting quite a bit.  Then about a week later I got a phone call to book the job in.
So, she either needed time to think n discuss price with partner or they had some other quotes in. Either way it can be a small waiting game, when it may not be the price they had in mind.
(Got the job at £250,  oh and by the way, i might have a coffee and look through social media afterwards and the shocker!  Well before mid morning incase ones want to moan at me posting when they are working 🤷‍♂️)
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Don Kee on January 27, 2020, 03:34:21 pm
Dont listen to donkee,
I charge a min of £40 per side to clean g/f/s min.
So it would be just £80 min for that alone.  I also have a min of £100 for a conny roof clean. So min it would be £180 then you have the windows on top.

If you win all your quotes, then it could be argued that the price is lowish. So dont worry of everyone doesnt like the price as some will.  Yet as mentioned, you have to back the price up with great work as well. 
If you always get no from your quotes, then adjust them.

Lol


OP, just because someone posts a lot on a forum, doesn’t mean they actually know what they’re talking about.
It just means they have a lot of time to post on an internet forum.
Usually in the middle of a working day when instead they could be cleaning gutters and fascias for £180...




I agree with you but some employ and have plenty of time to post during the working day , as they are supervising staff

You’re not the only one that employs my friend, I just don’t feel the need to post about it on every thread.

I guess the issue is if you think you’re right all the time, you never learn.

Oh well, to each their own 👍
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 27, 2020, 03:47:56 pm
There is always a pause between submitting a quote and receiving a reply, because she's asked other contractors to quote as well.


(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580122087_20200122_094404.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580122110_20200122_094350.jpg)

A quick soft wash job, which i quoted for a couple of wks back.  Didnt think i got the the job because up until i gave them a quote, she was texting quite a bit.  Then about a week later I got a phone call to book the job in.
So, she either needed time to think n discuss price with partner or they had some other quotes in. Either way it can be a small waiting game, when it may not be the price they had in mind.
(Got the job at £250,  oh and by the way, i might have a coffee and look through social media afterwards and the shocker!  Well before mid morning incase ones want to moan at me posting when they are working 🤷‍♂️)
I’m surprised you find the time to take on all this extra work when you’re constantly behind with your window cleaning work🤔
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: p1w1 on January 27, 2020, 03:59:44 pm
He's to busy writing those 3-page 40p price increase letters  ;D. Think diesel's gone up 2p a litre so there's gonna have to be another one to send out.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on January 27, 2020, 04:14:30 pm
Not constantly behind.  December, i quit and left half my work till this month as just needed the break for various reasons.  I texted and communicate to my customers via my facebook page and all were good with this. Then this month got hit with the flu virus thats going around and so a week late.  However all work will be complete before the month is out.    You see, i schedule all my work for the first 3 wks in a month, if family affairs alter that, i have a week to play with. Or, i schedule in soft washing, fascia or pressure washing jobs. Hence the one shown above is for the end of feb.

So come feb, all is back on track and i can still enjoy my coffee breaks and seemingly annoye ones on here by posting whilst they are working  🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Stoots on January 27, 2020, 04:51:11 pm
Not constantly behind.  December, i quit and left half my work till this month as just needed the break for various reasons.  I texted and communicate to my customers via my facebook page and all were good with this. Then this month got hit with the flu virus thats going around and so a week late.  However all work will be complete before the month is out.    You see, i schedule all my work for the first 3 wks in a month, if family affairs alter that, i have a week to play with. Or, i schedule in soft washing, fascia or pressure washing jobs. Hence the one shown above is for the end of feb.

So come feb, all is back on track and i can still enjoy my coffee breaks and seemingly annoye ones on here by posting whilst they are working  🤷‍♂️

So you have 3 weeks of window cleaning then a week off?

Seems a good way to do it. I work 4 days a week every week. Amounts to probably the same thing pretty much.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on January 27, 2020, 05:15:39 pm
Not constantly behind.  December, i quit and left half my work till this month as just needed the break for various reasons.  I texted and communicate to my customers via my facebook page and all were good with this. Then this month got hit with the flu virus thats going around and so a week late.  However all work will be complete before the month is out.    You see, i schedule all my work for the first 3 wks in a month, if family affairs alter that, i have a week to play with. Or, i schedule in soft washing, fascia or pressure washing jobs. Hence the one shown above is for the end of feb.

So come feb, all is back on track and i can still enjoy my coffee breaks and seemingly annoye ones on here by posting whilst they are working  🤷‍♂️

So you have 3 weeks of window cleaning then a week off?

Seems a good way to do it. I work 4 days a week every week. Amounts to probably the same thing pretty much.

I think your right, it amounts to pretty much the same thing.
I used to do the same and enjoy long wknds off, whereas now I can mostly have a full week instead and that feels like a good break then. That is, unless I book in additional jobs
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 31, 2020, 08:38:50 pm
There is always a pause between submitting a quote and receiving a reply, because she's asked other contractors to quote as well.


(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580122087_20200122_094404.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580122110_20200122_094350.jpg)

A quick soft wash job, which i quoted for a couple of wks back.  Didnt think i got the the job because up until i gave them a quote, she was texting quite a bit.  Then about a week later I got a phone call to book the job in.
So, she either needed time to think n discuss price with partner or they had some other quotes in. Either way it can be a small waiting game, when it may not be the price they had in mind.
(Got the job at £250,  oh and by the way, i might have a coffee and look through social media afterwards and the shocker!  Well before mid morning incase ones want to moan at me posting when they are working 🤷‍♂️)
well under priced at that  ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll so i wouldn't be laughing
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 31, 2020, 08:42:04 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580057908_255382A2-47EA-4F19-8B48-9B5D8B0BD8CC.jpeg)
looking at this it be tops of 2hours work,that be with 3 cups of tea and a pack of chocolate biscuits thrown in


if you cant do that in two hours and a top job you should be looking at how you work.

you then charge what you want per hour

me myself i wont take in on,as i got no time as a total full round,so dont need the extra work
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: NWH on January 31, 2020, 11:41:36 pm
Nathan how can you have so much time off and then say you’ll be caught up by the end of the month,if that was me in the same situation I’d literally have to stop and start from the beginning again I’d never catch it all up.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: NWH on January 31, 2020, 11:43:54 pm
When you gonna clean them  walls then they still look like they have a tinge of green lol.
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on February 01, 2020, 03:34:57 am
Nathan how can you have so much time off and then say you’ll be caught up by the end of the month,if that was me in the same situation I’d literally have to stop and start from the beginning again I’d never catch it all up.

Thats the point though isnt it.  Any work that ismt completed within the four weeks is a loss, you aint ever going to catch up.  Unless you condense the time between cleans, ie come back round 2 weeks later and then run it 4 wkly again but which customer would be happy for you to do that.  Cut your losses, take it on the chin and restart. So I class myself as back on track as all of Januarys work is completed.

The softwash job Frankybadboy, is fairly priced for the size it is and wont take long at all.  For a one man band, im content with my work and enjoy a week off from the glass. So I have these types of jobs, some conservatory roofs to clean and a pressure washing job booked in for feb, whilst I have a week off from cleaning glass.  This will also replace the loss of income from Decenber and tidy things up nicely and have time to drink coffee and jump on here as well.  Yep, good reason for me to be laughing and enjoying my work,
Title: Re: Another pricing help sorry 🙈
Post by: nathankaye on February 05, 2020, 01:29:45 pm
When you gonna clean them  walls then they still look like they have a tinge of green lol.

Just for you, whilst im on my lunch break, done this morning.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1580909381_aviary-image-1580909367138.jpeg)