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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Iain p on July 05, 2006, 10:33:25 pm

Title: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Iain p on July 05, 2006, 10:33:25 pm
Guys, Please help me with this problem.

Quite often I arrive at a row of maybe 3-6 houses that I need to clean. The only problem is that there are cars parked in a row outside these houses. How do you access them?

You would need a 200m hose ???

How do you all manage?
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Spruce on July 05, 2006, 11:06:23 pm
Hi
This is a problem. I have the same situation and found that between 10 and 2 is the time when there is the least amount of parked traffic. What about Saturday mornings?

Other consideration would be a trolley system. But would the revenue from the cleans justify the cost of the trolley?
Spruce
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Paul Coleman on July 05, 2006, 11:16:59 pm
Guys, Please help me with this problem.

Quite often I arrive at a row of maybe 3-6 houses that I need to clean. The only problem is that there are cars parked in a row outside these houses. How do you access them?

You would need a 200m hose ???

How do you all manage?

Clear Vision

I use a trolley.  If it is too much hassle filling the trolley up several times, it may be possible to just go around the tops of the houses with the trolley and blade the lower windows after.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: matt on July 05, 2006, 11:21:11 pm
trolley vote for me

if you van will take the extra weight etc etc

ideal for the odd hard to park house
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Iain p on July 05, 2006, 11:31:26 pm
What length of hose do you have on your reel in the van/car.

What type do you use? Does it kink?

Iain
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: pjulk on July 05, 2006, 11:42:24 pm
I use a van system and if i can't get close enough for the hose i will get my trolley out.

If you are only going to use one now and then you may aswell buy a backpack as they are cheaper but do hold less water.

Paul
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Paul Coleman on July 05, 2006, 11:44:47 pm
What length of hose do you have on your reel in the van/car.

What type do you use? Does it kink?

Iain

Not sure who you are asking but I have 2 x 50metre Tricoflex hoses. I work alone but they are handy as they can be daisy chained (though there are very few jobs where I need to do this).  As they are Tricoflex, they tend not to kink though it has happened a couple of times when I wasn't paying attention.  I tried hoselock pro previously but, in spite of the claims, it does kink at times.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: JM123 on July 06, 2006, 12:16:29 am
I have one reel with 75m microbore and another with 50m microbore.  Have yet to come across a house or situation I can't do.  With saying that it could happen, in that case I'd daisy chain the reels together.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 06, 2006, 12:34:21 am
What is microbore?

Is it a standard size garden hose?

Does it kink?
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: JM123 on July 06, 2006, 12:48:38 am
technically microbore is 8mm or less, we use a 6mm microbore that is triple layered out to 11mm (outside diameter).  Its much lighter and easier to use than standard hoses like tricoflex etc but ours is completely different to what the likes of Gardiners etc sells so I can't say what theirs are like although I've heard good things.  Our microbore is unkinkable (yes I know some will laugh and say yeah right but I can assure you that after using it for over a year we have not had one kink, the hose is still in really good condition (prob another 2/3 years life left in it).  Other microbores may kink but you'd need to try it first.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: jouk45 on July 06, 2006, 07:31:39 am
jm123, whats the manufacturers name of the 6mm microbore you use please, and the cost thanks
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 06, 2006, 08:18:32 am
jm123,

Please can you tell me where to get the hose that you use?

I really need to get a good quality hose like your one!

Cheers

Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Trevor Knight on July 06, 2006, 09:34:19 am
All my vans have Orange flashing lights fitted to the roof and if ever we are unable to park outside then we just park in the road next to the entrance and put the light on along with cones on the floor.

The police are happy then that you have taken every precaution to maintain a safe road system.

I also have 1 x 60m hose and 1 x 100m microbore so it is very unusual that I can't obtain access.

Best wishes,

Trev
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: JM123 on July 06, 2006, 12:21:15 pm
I supply it in 50m sections, 100m sections available on request.

It is very expensive and only available in blue but we've found it to earn its cost back in no time at all.

£65/50m
£130/100m

E-mail me j.mills175@btinternet.com for pics etc.

Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 06, 2006, 04:43:21 pm
Just spoke to a supplier and have ordered 100m of hose which I have been told is FAR better that microbore.  They are still testing it but should have it by the end of the month ;D

Over 100m the microbore looses 17 psi :(

The new hose I will be getting only looses 3 psi over 100m ;D ;D
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: JM123 on July 06, 2006, 05:38:33 pm
good man, glad you got sorted, make sure you let us know how you get on with it whether it kinks or not etc, progression is the key.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 06, 2006, 10:28:06 pm
I use an estate car and so a trolley plus tank and hose is too space-hungry.

I have 100m of microbore which works fine off a 60psi pump and a shurflo backpack for the odd job where parking would be difficult.

Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 08, 2006, 12:00:01 am
9/10 houses that I clen you have to have the hose running across a pavement.

I just have a little yellow plastic sign from sir saying "caution cleaning in progress"

Is that all I need and what do you guys do when you come across this????

Clear Vision
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: jeff1 on July 08, 2006, 06:48:11 am
9/10 houses that I clen you have to have the hose running across a pavement.

I just have a little yellow plastic sign from sir saying "caution cleaning in progress"

Is that all I need and what do you guys do when you come across this????

Clear Vision
Ther is a post somewere ? were a wc  takes the pipe upto the top of his van, so pople have to walk under it, no fear of anyone tripping on it. and its to high for anyone to hang them selves. I'll see if I can find the pictures.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Paul Coleman on July 08, 2006, 08:19:27 am
9/10 houses that I clen you have to have the hose running across a pavement.

I just have a little yellow plastic sign from sir saying "caution cleaning in progress"

Is that all I need and what do you guys do when you come across this????

Clear Vision

I have a couple of sheets of rubber matting.  I bought them from
http://www.polymax.co.uk/mainframe%20rubber%20products.htm
I got the ones with the yellow border around them for visibility. 
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on July 08, 2006, 09:10:22 am

BACKPACK ALL THE TIME!!!!

My Vote!

I can't honestly think of one job on my round where a hose would be better.

My Backpack is set up so I don't have to lift it up at all and is as easy as pulling out a hose and EASIER than putting away a hose!

David
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 08, 2006, 10:21:38 am
Handy little trailer you have there david.

Your backpack Is at a good hieght ;)

Do you have containers in the trailer? or a lay flat tank?

Clear Vision
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: JM123 on July 08, 2006, 08:34:59 pm
Being totally honest I can't see where a backpack would be any better on my round - with saying that if it works for you then stick with it.
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: lisa1 on July 08, 2006, 08:58:21 pm
I like that set up,wot size tank have you got in there ,im thinking about doing the same with my trailer,MY VAN SET UP IS NO GOOD FOR MY HOUSES,    grate picture gives us beginers a better idea        loveit ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: jouk45 on July 09, 2006, 03:11:05 pm
jeff, this will be the post you where talking about,

Hi
Now in to my forth week and have found this idea really works for me.

As I did not want to cause a trip hazard or worry about someone looking for a reason to earn some cash from tripping over my hose, I made this.

As I write this, I hope a picture is just below showing what I have done.
[I will put another picture on here in a while.]

Once I have snapped the hoses together, it takes about 20 seconds to have the Hose Reel out of the van and in the property with NO WORRIES about the hose being a trip hazard.

I thought if I posted these pictures any one of you could copy the idea, it very simple.

Basically, it’s a tube fixed at one end to the roof rack and (turned at a right angle from the front) it is kept in place with a shelf bracket.

It towers over the pathway.

Then when finished, I lift the hose reel into the van, put the pole in the tube and move the ARCH (as I’ve called it) round to the front of the van quite quickly.

I think the idea is Simple and Brilliant at the same time.

Hope it helps some of you, as  I  have been helped and continue to be helped by all of you.

Thanks for looking. WINDOLENOMANO.
(http://img69.i.us/img69/5218/wfppipe2ac.jpg)

(http://img69.i.us/img69/8549/wfppipe28lz.jpg)
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 09, 2006, 03:23:22 pm
Great idea jouk & good pics.

Would like to see your set up in the back of your van.

Does your hose run inside your pole and what do you use for the down stairs windows?
Do you have another pole & brush for this?
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: jouk45 on July 09, 2006, 04:06:46 pm
 their not my pictures vision, their windowlenomanos  pics, he put them up a while ago, i just retrieved it, as you wher on the subject of pavements and hoses
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: Clear Vision on July 09, 2006, 04:12:13 pm
Theif  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: jouk45 on July 09, 2006, 04:22:03 pm
lol, i just borrow them for my library collection,   
Title: Re: How can you get close to a house with a van system?
Post by: jeff1 on July 09, 2006, 07:49:41 pm
jeff, this will be the post you where talking about,


Thats the one, Thanks Joe